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<ekleog>
angerman: ^
<angerman>
ekleog: i see, thanks
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<ekleog>
Hmm… I think I came upon something that should be in release notes (a few CC licences being marked as unfree), is it still possible to recover or is the website generate to rarely?
<ekleog>
Profpatsch: stupid question maybe: are the bundled docs actually redistributable? I can't find any mention of a license on https://cr.yp.to/cdb.html
<Profpatsch>
ekleog: Problematic, yes. djb has everything under public domain normally.
<Profpatsch>
But doesn’t really bother with license files.
<ekleog>
second nit: checking in docs at 5.73KB to be auto-updated sounds not nice, maybe it's possible to host them elsewhere? :)
<gchristensen>
yeah, this seems not good. how does Debian do it?
<Profpatsch>
ekleog: Ah, we don’t have to zip it I think.
<Profpatsch>
Just import the whole folder, nix supports that.
<samueldr>
ekleog: what's the msrla?
<ekleog>
samueldr: microsoft research [something something]
<Profpatsch>
then updates produce nice diffs.
<samueldr>
somehow google can't find "msrla" even with "license" :/
<Profpatsch>
ekleog: On the other hand, should the updates even produces diffs?
* ekleog
just did git blame lib/licenses.nix
<Profpatsch>
Or alternatively mirror & upload it somewhere on github, but then each docs update needs push access.
<ekleog>
Profpatsch: tbh, I'm not really convinced by even adding 5K of stuff into nixpkgs, if we did that for all packages it'd be like 100M just in docs, to be downloaded by everyone every time, and I don't see why cbp would be particularly important :)
<ekleog>
then it's only my personal opinion, and it doesn't bother us when doing carnix or the like
<Profpatsch>
true
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<Profpatsch>
Then I think I’ll mirror it somewhere until djb includes it into the releases.
<gchristensen>
(it is also bothersome with carnix and node-packages :( )
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<Profpatsch>
If only something like ipfs worked satisfactorily.
<ekleog>
heh
<ekleog>
gchristensen: IFD is the answer! oh wait
<Profpatsch>
IFD is exactly the other way around, have build instructions in other repos, not data in the same repo. :)
<gchristensen>
maybe we could store a smaller datastructure which could be expanded at build time, though
<ekleog>
sounds reasonably possible, indeed
<Dezgeg>
if the only documentation for this package is a webpage, why not use that? why is it up to packagers to mirror webpages?
<Profpatsch>
Dezgeg: Because it’s multiple pages and not packaged in the source distribution.
<Profpatsch>
gchristensen: How do you mean?
<Dezgeg>
there are a zillion of existing packages with no documentation in the source distribution either, only online
<Profpatsch>
Dezgeg: Yeah, what’s up with that.
<Profpatsch>
But how to battle it?
<Profpatsch>
I tried it with Anki, but it’s very hard™
<Profpatsch>
And they only have the most recent documentation on some webserver somewhere.
<Profpatsch>
So probably a case for nagging upstream until they start versioning their stuff.
<gchristensen>
thath is probably the best bet
<ekleog>
anki ftw (and I didn't know the man page was bundled in the nixos package, always used the online manual :°)
<Profpatsch>
ekleog: The manpage is, but the docs aren’t.
<Profpatsch>
And the manpage is pretty short.
<Profpatsch>
ekleog: I have a small program called nman, which will fetch package’s manpages from the current NIX_PATH.
<ekleog>
oh… well, I install most programs through environment.systemPackages (yeah, shame on me), so that's not really an issue for me :°
<clever>
the rename flags only work for setting the old name, not reading it, i believe
<clever>
and stateVersion being moved broke nixops
<samueldr>
I think the issue here is that the comment stayed while the change was reverted?
<samueldr>
I genuinely lost track of what happend with stateVersion through the renames
<ekleog>
also, looks like nixos-generate-config uses the value from the system the livecd was built with, so it sounds like it depends on how the livecd was configured
<ekleog>
that said now I've launched this in the air it's time to go to sleep here, sorry ^^'
<clever>
ekleog: and if you mess with nix-channel after booting the livecd, it doesnt match up
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