gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.09 release managers: vcunat and samueldr | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
<{^_^}> #28913 (by nh2, 1 year ago, open): nixos-install ignores command line flags depending on order
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<ekleog> also, up @ merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/48862 (cc andi-)
<{^_^}> #48862 (by andir, 1 day ago, open): firefox{,bin}: 62.0.3 -> 63.0 & nss: 3.38-> 3.39
<andi-> My battery did run out /o\ has to wait until the morning :) ( thanks for all the trisginf work ekleog!)
<ekleog> well, thank *you* for maintaining firefox up-to-date :p
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<ekleog> andi-: saw you merged the update to unstable, any reason not to merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/49044 at the same time?
<{^_^}> #49044 (by andir, 13 hours ago, open): WIP: [18.09] firefox{,-bin}: 62.0.3 -> 63.0 & nss: 3.38-> 3.39
<andi-> ekleog: it is not done yet. Needs a rustc backport. I am done assembling that for 18.03, will do 18.09 in a bit when I find the time
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<srhb> Sooo why are all the linux builders idle?
<srhb> queue runner threw a hissy fit?
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<srhb> They're all nrStepsDone: 0, idleSince: 0, currentJobs: 0 too. Very strange.
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<srhb> Looks like it's okay now.
<cransom> They must be watching the live stream.
<srhb> :D
<gchristensen> maybe hydra was trying to catch up on darwin
* gchristensen makes jokes
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<srhb> I'll let you explain that to me some other time :-P
<gchristensen> each jobset gets a certain number of credits/day to run
<gchristensen> relative to the rest ofthe jobsets, and I wonder if a jobset has loads of darwin builds and the linux machines are left without work
<srhb> I don't think that would explain why all linux builders were at 0 done at that point, but hm.
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<cransom> the credits don't take into account the arch that it runs on, so i could see it pingponging back and forth between archs for jobs. there's some refinement in there that might be interesting.
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<gchristensen> cransom: per-arch queues with credits per queue?
<cransom> Yeah.
<cransom> This would have been a successful nerd snipe any other day. Maybe illl think about it later :)
<gchristensen> ok but for "later" ^
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<nbp> roberth: domenkozar: Nice presentations, and really useful work to promote more uses of Nix :)
<srhb> Now every linux builder appears to be idle again..
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<ekleog> andi-: oh 'k, didn't know, thanks!
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<gchristensen> srhb: pretty sure it is that credit system.
<srhb> gchristensen: OK. I'll stop worrying then.
<gchristensen> it is strange, but I wonder if this has happened with macos losing the prioritization in the past, but without people noticing
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<andi-> Mmh, hydra only showas darwin builds as running. That doesn't seem correct.
<gchristensen> it has been sort of bouncing between these two states
<andi-> ahh, should read more lines upwards
<gchristensen> for the first time in forever Hydra has 8 out of 9 macs building :)
<andi-> so that is a plus I guess :D
<srhb> If we can have one of the two, then... ;)
<gchristensen> also I have a pending nerd-snipe on cransom to improve it
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<LnL> job priority isn't per architecture?
<cransom> afaik, it isn't per anything.
<gchristensen> architecture usage / capacity isn't included in the balancing
<gchristensen> afaict
<LnL> oh, I assumed it was
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<nbp> garbas: Not at the beach this year?
<garbas> nbp: next year :)
<garbas> nbp: we miss you here you know?
<nbp> garbas: I keep my PTO for HolyJIT lately :/
<nbp> garbas: Don't worry, I would still ask tricky questions with a tool called "THE Internet" ;)
<simpson> nbp: Oh good, I'm glad. Sincerely. As soon as Rust is stable enough and HolyJIT is advanced enough, I'm ready to leave RPython.
<nbp> simpson: I am planning to have version 0.2 to be better than an interpreter.
<nbp> simpson: certainly not Rust-feature complete, nor competitive to RPython.
<simpson> No worries. RPython's current JIT is what, the fifth iteration of their approach and technology? JITs are hard.
<nbp> Oh, I did not knew that. We are at the 4th one in SpiderMonkey (Firefox JS engine)
<ekleog> nbp: you can't do at least a bit of HolyJIT on your work time? I mean, it *is* part of your work, is it not? :)
<nbp> and the third one is still used.
<ekleog> (and ohai, btw)
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<thoughtpolice> Finally released this today after a few weeks of late night hacking: https://github.com/thoughtpolice/eris
<thoughtpolice> In case anyone wants a nicer, somewhat more featureful alternative to nix-serve (including Nix 2.0 HTTP auth support)
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<Profpatsch> Can we please patch nix to not accept this:
<Profpatsch> { a = "foo"; } ? a
<Profpatsch> true
<Profpatsch> but only this:
<Profpatsch> { a = "foo"; } ? "a"
<Profpatsch> The first one hurts the symbolic part of my brain.
<Profpatsch> Also, strange unexplainable bugs.
<Profpatsch> thoughtpolice: Ooooooh, sweet!
<Profpatsch> I’ll try it out.
<Profpatsch> thoughtpolice: 1 commit? oO
<thoughtpolice> There were a bunch of trash commits in there while I was debugging a few Nix interactions (ever seen 'wip?' 20x times in your history?) so I just collapsed all of time and space into a single commit. :P
<Profpatsch> Ah, i c
<Synthetica> No `rebase -i`?
<thoughtpolice> I really, really don't want to get into a whole discussion about it (no offense but let's be honest, you ask 10 people about this, you'll get 40 opinions), but needless to say when the vast majority of it is especially minor touchups/cleanup/doc commits, I just decided to clean the slate, so to speak.
<thoughtpolice> And squash down into the original commit.
<Synthetica> Wait, I gotta offer 3 more opinions? 🙀
<thoughtpolice> That's the _minimum_ I expect from a discussion around rebasing :)
<thoughtpolice> Also I'll just take the time to say the fact that Discourse gives me a little unique badge icon for the daring act of "posting a link" is strangely funny to me.
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<Profpatsch> && binds stronger than -> and I’ve just made a fool of myself.
<Profpatsch> thoughtpolice: Gamification!!1!1!one!1
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