<samueldr>
though that one has lower numbers from what you say was "wildly wrong", which I don't know whether it was over or under
<gchristensen>
todaythe wrong one says nearly 600,000 have died
<gchristensen>
jq: error (at <stdin>:1): date "2020-12-11T24:00:00Z" does not match format "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ"
<gchristensen>
hm :)
<samueldr>
uh
<joepie91>
sure it's the right Y for 4-digit?
<samueldr>
jq's wrong here
<samueldr>
24:00:00 is likely out of the range it checks I would guess
<samueldr>
one second too many
<joepie91>
it's a valid time, isn't it?
<samueldr>
I think so yes
<joepie91>
with leap seconds
<samueldr>
I assume jq's somehow not aware of leap
<joepie91>
I suppose
<gchristensen>
yea
<samueldr>
but thatMs before you said %Y could be two digits
<joepie91>
that's annoying
<samueldr>
gchristensen: modulo 24:00:00, what could go wrong?
<gchristensen>
:)
<gchristensen>
fromdateiso8601
<joepie91>
famous last words
<joepie91>
or first words, depending on how you look at it :)
<red[evilred]>
data accuracy is apparently overrated
<gchristensen>
it is really annoying that "jq" in ddg gets me jquery
<abathur>
yeah, every time I use jq I want to slap them for not picking a googleable name
<abathur>
*unless I'm able to divine my own solution from their doc
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<LinuxHackerman>
man jq, search
<abathur>
not really sufficient for what you'd search for
<abathur>
you'd be searching for "has someone solved my dumb arcane problem in jq?"
<abathur>
knowing the atoms doesn't answer it
<gchristensen>
^
<gchristensen>
and it is such an incredibly obtuse language...
<colemickens>
I kind of apprecitte when tools have jsonpath support built in
<abathur>
not exactly the same problem, but if I was lord king of softwareiscrap mountain I think the first problem I'd offer my throne for a solution to is "what is the googleable name for <arbitrary ungoogleable language structure/symbol/keyword>"
<abathur>
so much of language bootstrapping is just, "what the hell is this thing?"
<samueldr>
it'd be great if we could better twiddle the knobs of the ML machine behind the google searches
<samueldr>
see what meanings it can discriminate for or against for a given term
<samueldr>
did you mean Go the game or Go the programming language?
<abathur>
hehe
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<samueldr>
did you mean Rust (iron oxide), Rust (video game) or Rust (programming language)?
<abathur>
true facts
<samueldr>
we're almost at polar opposites
<samueldr>
where the "did you mean" are actually often less helpful
<samueldr>
or even if they ask if you meant, they still float up those terms
<samueldr>
I feel if the search engine *asked* you questions it would end up being the next stepping stone into search engines
<abathur>
did you mean Nix the package manager or Nix the language? :)
<energizer>
or unix or linux
<samueldr>
you know it's going to be "did you mean *nix?"
<samueldr>
yeah
<abathur>
:]
<samueldr>
I feel this is what you were fishing for
<abathur>
energizer: right, but it's more than just search, there; I can do something like http://symbolhound.com/?q=%2B%2B+nix and still not get anywhere
<abathur>
oh, and 'nix
<abathur>
I had some vaguely OT thought about this a while back...
<abathur>
hmm, yeah, I guess that'd fit roughly under the umbrella of my third-party app scenario
<samueldr>
hm?
<ajs124>
That's an anti-feature if I've ever seen one. Sure, I get why it's there, but I know how to read e-mails, please don't do this kind of stuff, just because most users don't.
<samueldr>
it's not an "app", it's a misfeature from github being triggered by a misfeature from gmail
<abathur>
though FWIW at least with gmail I haven't *noticed* any notifications getting marked read without having actually visited the GH page or clicked on the checkmark in notifications view
<ajs124>
I shouldn't think amout e-mail and gmail. just puts me in a bad mood -.-
<abathur>
heh
<abathur>
maybe I'll notice the next time I get a notification
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<samueldr>
I'm using the basic html gmail
<samueldr>
but because a setting that apparently controls that wasn't there
<abathur>
*unwanted troubleshooting* are you sure you didn't click one of thos new banners they've been putting up top for maybe a week or so? I haven't looked into how they work
<abathur>
but they're like
<samueldr>
I switched to the "full" gmails and WOW it's even worse than when I stopped
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<samueldr>
it blasted me with in-page notifications, then tried to enable browser notifications, all while the page took ages to load
<abathur>
"you haven't interacted with XYZ's notifications for over a month, should I disappear them?"
<samueldr>
it's confirmed by github from their http server logs
<samueldr>
they confirmed that it's the google image proxy that turned those to "read"
<abathur>
gotcha
<abathur>
just asking, since I noticed these notification-management notices myself in the past week or two
<samueldr>
but still, to answer, yes I interacted, and confirmed nothing was toggled off/on
<abathur>
so it's the only thing I can think of noticing that would fit your timeline
<samueldr>
and I do receive the notifications still, they're now read
<abathur>
nod, I'll pay attention to the next one
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<infinisil>
Idea: Have licenses be programmatic
<infinisil>
As in, every license defines a function like `isAllowed :: Inputs -> Bool`
<infinisil>
And with some standard input fields
<infinisil>
Or maybe not only isallowed, but also some other functions, like an object
<samueldr>
do you mean represent the information of the license, generally, or for use in Nix?
<infinisil>
So you can ask things like "Is it allowed to make modifications to the code?" or "Am I in legal trouble if I use this code for nuclear weapons?"
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<etu>
srhb: So I have an order on the G9 now. I found it as a returned item to a store, so it had 22% discount and rated "class 1 return item".
<srhb>
Wow! That's a nice discount! Congratulations! :D
<etu>
Indeed
<etu>
Gonna go and pick it up when the store opens
<srhb>
I finally got a PSU so now I'm only short a GPU to complete the build. Starting to get a little stressed out about completing it before the holidays :P
<srhb>
etu: It's... Really heavy. Recommend a car or a friend helping :D
<etu>
srhb: I have a car with a big trunk :)
<etu>
srhb: And I'll bring my partner ;)
<srhb>
I barely managed to assemble it alone and was at times a little scared of breaking it, but I managed. :P
<srhb>
Good call ^^
<etu>
time to pack up to do some things on the way there, like buying fuel for the car :p
<srhb>
Enjoy ^^
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<sphalerite>
ajs124: samueldr: IMO gmail is doing the right thing there. Fuck email tracking pixels.
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<eyJhb>
etu: what did you have to give for that bad boy then?
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<etu>
eyJhb: ~12500sek
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<etu>
Nice, now I have a window floating "between" the screens :D
<eyJhb>
Expensive, but damn it is nice! (also, how often does one change the monitor) :D Do you use the virtual montitors/setmonitor in xrandr?
<patagonicus>
Ok, I think I'm good with my 21:9 37.5 inch screen. :D
<srhb>
etu: that was fast :P
<srhb>
I just did cable management in the new PC... Is it normal that I can't get a post beep when there's no gpu yet?
<srhb>
And also: Is it normal to be really _angry_ after doing cable management?
<srhb>
So annoying.
<eyJhb>
srhb: Depends. But normally I would assume a beep to be in order, but I rarely hear the post beep nowadays on PCs... :p
<eyJhb>
Depends on how you do cable management!! Just get one of these things under the desk :p
<eyJhb>
(it is the best thing I ever got. I just have two cables go to my desk, power and ethernet, and up in the tray they go!)
<srhb>
I meant inside the thing. :P
<srhb>
Infuriating.
<etu>
srhb: Damn this display is f****** badass.
<etu>
srhb: Why did I wait this long?
<srhb>
etu: I felt much the same. It's really good :P
<eyJhb>
srhb: WELL! THe key is not to have a case you can see into
<eyJhb>
And then forgot, and newer look at it again.
<srhb>
Got that covered. :P It was more the process that was infuriating.
<eyJhb>
It has been too long since I did any desktop :p I mostly know the furstration of the "too many screws" after you have taken your laptop apart. That is scary :p
<eyJhb>
And also... Very infuriating
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<hexa->
samueldr: what tweets were you refering to?
<joepie91>
also, huh, you seem to have it set up with two desktops?
<joepie91>
> 12500 SEK
<etu>
joepie91: Correct :)
<{^_^}>
attempt to call something which is not a function but an integer, at (string):447:1
<joepie91>
what
<eyJhb>
> SEK 12500
<{^_^}>
"12500 SEK (weakest of the Norse Brothers) = 8875.000000 DKK"
<joepie91>
oh
<eyJhb>
> DKK 8875
<{^_^}>
"30751963.750000 VND"
<eyJhb>
> VND 30751963
<{^_^}>
"1168.574594 EUR"
<eyJhb>
There you go!
<joepie91>
oof
<joepie91>
💸
<joepie91>
etu: how does the two-desktop setup work? didn't know you can do that
<eyJhb>
xrandr virtual monitor/setmonitor I assume, not sure if etu uses something else
<etu>
I use the built in picture in picture
<etu>
So it acts as two monitors
<eyJhb>
BUt that desk is quite clean, if there was a VESA mount for the monitor, that would be 10/10 :D
<etu>
and you plug in two cables
<eyJhb>
Damn
<eyJhb>
That's even cooler :D
<thibm>
(In the herbstluftwm tiling wm, you can set "virtual monitors" independently to real monitors, so it's really easy to get such setup)
<etu>
eyJhb: It's quite heavy, haven't seen any VESA mount arm that can carry it
<LinuxHackerman>
can't help thinking two monitors half the size would be a bit cheaper :>
<eyJhb>
But... The borders LinuxHackerman
<etu>
LinuxHackerman: But then you have the bezles in the middle
<LinuxHackerman>
yeah but that's a lot of money for a little bit of bezel
<etu>
LinuxHackerman: And yes, I had that before. So that was cheaper :D
<joepie91>
etu: huh, cool
<etu>
LinuxHackerman: But it's nicer an a lot of other ways as well. Like the curvature.
<LinuxHackerman>
or maybe even 3 monitors. That can get you curvature, you don't have bezels in the middle of your field of vision, and you have even more pixels :D
<LinuxHackerman>
Though I'm not sure that's still cheaper.
<eyJhb>
https://imgur.com/a/NXIjwez is my setup, it might be somewhat cheaper (at least the ones I got). But damn I see the appeal of no bezels, and having a single one
<eyJhb>
But the newer ones have almost nothing at the edges...
<eyJhb>
*ignore the nisser and the fox with its ass up*
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<eyJhb>
Going to be another 3 years at minimum before I buy a new monitor however :( But hopefully at that time they have some VESA that can do such big monitors :D Still a nice screen.
<gchristensen>
I'm a one-big-monitor kind of person, if I could get it to work reliably I'd close my laptop when at my desk
<eyJhb>
gchristensen: Big as in ultra wide-screen big, or big as in TV big ?
<gchristensen>
ultra wide-screen
<gchristensen>
TVs aren't meant to be so close
<gchristensen>
the top of the monitor should be even with your eyes, hard to do with a TV
<eyJhb>
Well, SOME people are crazy and use 55" TVs as monitors up close... :p
<eyJhb>
But why doesn't it work reliably?
<gchristensen>
it used to go to sleep when I closed it and I haven't bothered trying again
<eyJhb>
I know that feeling. The reason my laptop lid is open, is because else xrandr will give me a error (no matter what command I run basically)... So it is just easier to do as it wishes and keep it open.
<abathur>
samueldr: I did get a notification overnight; it showed up as unread in my notification inbox on GH before I opened the email. After I opened the email and reloaded the notification inbox, it was marked as read.
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<samueldr>
yeah, that's the expected flow, abathur, but mine get "opened" and "read" when they get delivered to my mailbox :)
<abathur>
nod, just clarifying that I observed it working this way with gmail
<samueldr>
yep, I'm being used by "google apps for your domain" (now gsuite, if it still hasn't changed for another silly name)
<samueldr>
probably relevant
<abathur>
that may; mine is plain gmail
<samueldr>
just checked, did not open any e-mail, all new notifications are read
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<eyJhb>
samueldr: Do you get email notifications of everything that happens on Github? As in, all notifications you have on Github you will get a email about?
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<samueldr>
eyJhb: yes
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<eyJhb>
That must be a LOT of emails a day...
<samueldr>
kind of
<eyJhb>
I was active in 1-2 threads, and got too many to care at some point
<samueldr>
I don't subscribe to e.g. all of nixpkgs
<samueldr>
it's still whatever gets into my github notification inbox
<samueldr>
I believe there is *some* truth about that, but probably not the top of the monitor... my experience tells me it's probably related to the size of the display too
<Ashy>
ah you just need to put the image at ~/.face.icon
<__monty__>
Definitely also depends on your usage. I look more at the top of my display, use the top edge to keep track of where I am on a webpage, watch videos in the upper half, short-lived terminals don't get filled past half the display. But chat does usually happen at the bottom. So I can imagine some people may prefer being closer to the bottom edge of the display.
<samueldr>
the main thing to keep in mind is that you should find a position for your monitor that helps you keep your head in a neutral position with its use
<samueldr>
and as usual, guidelins are made for the average human, which doesn't exist
<samueldr>
guidlines*
<samueldr>
UGH, typing
<joepie91>
typing is the worst
<samueldr>
in fact, every "ergonomics" guidelines should be re-written to: "ensure your _____ position is neutral" first, and then give tips for different kind of people
<samueldr>
I seem to remember studies saying that "slouching" for some might be better
<samueldr>
less pressure on a single point or something along the line
<colemickens>
I have a very unique back, so my mileage sort of varies in general.
<colemickens>
I do think I needed to lower my desk a bit more though, this does feel better. (Thanks for the links :) )
<samueldr>
hey, I linked them to say they probably are in dire need to stop cargo-culting!
<samueldr>
they might or might not be actually good!
<__monty__>
samueldr: Are you sure you mean slouching and not reclining? Because I know there's advise that sitting forward on your seat and leaning back with a straight back, so you touch the backrest about at the scapulas is supposedly better than sitting against the backrest.
<samueldr>
__monty__: might be reclining, I wasn't sure of the right word
<samueldr>
the main point being that it goes against the usual recommendations
<joepie91>
samueldr: the main advice I've seen is
<joepie91>
'vary your position'
<samueldr>
yeah
<joepie91>
this is why I got a wobbly stool, also
<samueldr>
that's a recent one
<samueldr>
I wanted to point out the "well known" written-down things that checkbox-compliance will usually follow
<joepie91>
ah right :P
<joepie91>
I assume ergonomic recommendations are like automated testing and style guides
<joepie91>
they're not the optimal approach, they're just Good Enough and cheap to implement in a company
<samueldr>
though here they're probably not updated to recent hardware :)
<joepie91>
KDE is being awesome today. my Element window has a different title in a) the window titlebar, b) the taskbar button, and c) the on-hover taskbar preview popup
<joepie91>
none of them are the same. impressive.
<drakonis>
impressive.
<joepie91>
(the titlebar one is the correct one :P)
<__monty__>
Aren't titlebar and taskbar different properties altogether? WM_NAME and WM_ICON_NAME or something?