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<gchristensen> anyone know of a simple API I can curl and get the current deaths from covid in the US?
<joepie91> gchristensen: https://covid19api.com/ seems to have a limited free option...
<gchristensen> yeah I was using that one but it is reporting 583,399 deaths
<gchristensen> it has been wildly wrong for months https://api.covid19api.com/total/dayone/country/us/status/deaths
<joepie91> dunno then
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<samueldr> gchristensen: maybe wikipedia or whatever sources it for them
<samueldr> one of their sources, gchristensen https://covidtracking.com/data
<samueldr> which has a big API button
<samueldr> though that one has lower numbers from what you say was "wildly wrong", which I don't know whether it was over or under
<gchristensen> todaythe wrong one says nearly 600,000 have died
<gchristensen> jq: error (at <stdin>:1): date "2020-12-11T24:00:00Z" does not match format "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ"
<gchristensen> hm :)
<samueldr> uh
<joepie91> sure it's the right Y for 4-digit?
<samueldr> jq's wrong here
<samueldr> 24:00:00 is likely out of the range it checks I would guess
<samueldr> one second too many
<joepie91> it's a valid time, isn't it?
<samueldr> I think so yes
<joepie91> with leap seconds
<samueldr> I assume jq's somehow not aware of leap
<joepie91> I suppose
<gchristensen> yea
<samueldr> but thatMs before you said %Y could be two digits
<joepie91> that's annoying
<samueldr> gchristensen: modulo 24:00:00, what could go wrong?
<gchristensen> :)
<gchristensen> fromdateiso8601
<joepie91> famous last words
<joepie91> or first words, depending on how you look at it :)
<red[evilred]> data accuracy is apparently overrated
<gchristensen> it is really annoying that "jq" in ddg gets me jquery
<abathur> yeah, every time I use jq I want to slap them for not picking a googleable name
<abathur> *unless I'm able to divine my own solution from their doc
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<LinuxHackerman> man jq, search
<abathur> not really sufficient for what you'd search for
<abathur> you'd be searching for "has someone solved my dumb arcane problem in jq?"
<abathur> knowing the atoms doesn't answer it
<gchristensen> ^
<gchristensen> and it is such an incredibly obtuse language...
<colemickens> I kind of apprecitte when tools have jsonpath support built in
<abathur> not exactly the same problem, but if I was lord king of softwareiscrap mountain I think the first problem I'd offer my throne for a solution to is "what is the googleable name for <arbitrary ungoogleable language structure/symbol/keyword>"
<abathur> so much of language bootstrapping is just, "what the hell is this thing?"
<samueldr> it'd be great if we could better twiddle the knobs of the ML machine behind the google searches
<samueldr> see what meanings it can discriminate for or against for a given term
<samueldr> did you mean Go the game or Go the programming language?
<abathur> hehe
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<samueldr> did you mean Rust (iron oxide), Rust (video game) or Rust (programming language)?
<abathur> true facts
<samueldr> we're almost at polar opposites
<samueldr> where the "did you mean" are actually often less helpful
<samueldr> or even if they ask if you meant, they still float up those terms
<samueldr> I feel if the search engine *asked* you questions it would end up being the next stepping stone into search engines
<energizer> there is a search engine for arbitrary syntax http://symbolhound.com/
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<abathur> did you mean Nix the package manager or Nix the language? :)
<energizer> or unix or linux
<samueldr> you know it's going to be "did you mean *nix?"
<samueldr> yeah
<abathur> :]
<samueldr> I feel this is what you were fishing for
<abathur> energizer: right, but it's more than just search, there; I can do something like http://symbolhound.com/?q=%2B%2B+nix and still not get anywhere
<abathur> oh, and 'nix
<abathur> I had some vaguely OT thought about this a while back...
<abathur> ah yes
<gchristensen> hahaha
<samueldr> I never did get a reply to my question the past few days
<samueldr> anyone else having an issue where github marks all notifications read instantly?
<gchristensen> musta been marked read before anyone saw it
<samueldr> it's been 10 days since my last "unread" notification
<samueldr> but hundreds of notifications since then
<samueldr> I know the reason, github support knows about it, they even confirmed the issue
<samueldr> but I wanted to know if *others* are affected
<samueldr> because it seems extremely odd that only I would be affected
<samueldr> gchristensen: you're unlikely to be affected AFAIK
<abathur> hmm
<abathur> when you said this, I did think that I haven't seen one in a minute
<abathur> but my notification panel says my most recent one was 2 days ago
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<abathur> so I guess I'm not affected?
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<abathur> have you added a new third-party app recently? dunno if they can do anything that causes them to get marked
<samueldr> I don't need problem solving :)
<samueldr> the reason is totally definitely confirmed by github
<samueldr> and I mean notifications on the website
<samueldr> have you confirmed by going to the notifications page and selecting "all"?
<samueldr> commit notifications are unaffected, issues and pull request notifications are
<samueldr> this would affect anyone using a mail provider that does some kind of image prefetching on mail reception
<samueldr> of which I only know google does
<samueldr> becaus, see, github added a pixel tracking image to everyone of their e-mail messages
<samueldr> so it can mark notifications read if you read them in your e-mail inbox
<samueldr> or better track you?
<samueldr> both?
<samueldr> what's infuriating is that I seemingly cannot disable the feature of the mail provider
<samueldr> and I don't want to disable mailing notifications from github as it's a transparency log of things
<samueldr> so I want to get other people to report the issue
<samueldr> it's basically made github unusable [compared to the normal level of usable, y'all haters]
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<ajs124> how are you reading those e-mails that they are actually loading external images?
<ajs124> why are you looking at the html part in the first place?
<samueldr> I'm not
<ajs124> ah, oh no
<ajs124> your e-mail provider is?
<samueldr> yes
<samueldr> it's to protect privacy by poisoning the data
<samueldr> as I understand it, the concept is that all html e-mail images are preloaded on reception for all messages
<ajs124> ah, I reread what you wrote. damn. which e-mail prodvider is that, so I can add them to my shitlist?
<samueldr> that way whenever I decide to read an HTML-based mail, I'm not blasting off a "JUST READ THE MAIL!"
<samueldr> it's google
<abathur> samueldr | have you confirmed by going to the notifications page and selecting "all"? Yes (and all of my visible notifications are PR/issue
<samueldr> abathur: thanks
<ajs124> ok, then I guess my list stays the same
<samueldr> what's weird is that this feature is from like... 2013
<samueldr> so something changed somewhere
<samueldr> so that now that github tracking image (booooo) is being triggered by this system
<abathur> hmm, yeah, I guess that'd fit roughly under the umbrella of my third-party app scenario
<samueldr> hm?
<ajs124> That's an anti-feature if I've ever seen one. Sure, I get why it's there, but I know how to read e-mails, please don't do this kind of stuff, just because most users don't.
<samueldr> it's not an "app", it's a misfeature from github being triggered by a misfeature from gmail
<abathur> though FWIW at least with gmail I haven't *noticed* any notifications getting marked read without having actually visited the GH page or clicked on the checkmark in notifications view
<ajs124> I shouldn't think amout e-mail and gmail. just puts me in a bad mood -.-
<abathur> heh
<abathur> maybe I'll notice the next time I get a notification
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<samueldr> I'm using the basic html gmail
<samueldr> but because a setting that apparently controls that wasn't there
<abathur> *unwanted troubleshooting* are you sure you didn't click one of thos new banners they've been putting up top for maybe a week or so? I haven't looked into how they work
<abathur> but they're like
<samueldr> I switched to the "full" gmails and WOW it's even worse than when I stopped
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<samueldr> it blasted me with in-page notifications, then tried to enable browser notifications, all while the page took ages to load
<abathur> "you haven't interacted with XYZ's notifications for over a month, should I disappear them?"
<samueldr> it's confirmed by github from their http server logs
<samueldr> they confirmed that it's the google image proxy that turned those to "read"
<abathur> gotcha
<abathur> just asking, since I noticed these notification-management notices myself in the past week or two
<samueldr> but still, to answer, yes I interacted, and confirmed nothing was toggled off/on
<abathur> so it's the only thing I can think of noticing that would fit your timeline
<samueldr> and I do receive the notifications still, they're now read
<abathur> nod, I'll pay attention to the next one
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<infinisil> Idea: Have licenses be programmatic
<infinisil> As in, every license defines a function like `isAllowed :: Inputs -> Bool`
<infinisil> And with some standard input fields
<infinisil> Or maybe not only isallowed, but also some other functions, like an object
<samueldr> do you mean represent the information of the license, generally, or for use in Nix?
<infinisil> So you can ask things like "Is it allowed to make modifications to the code?" or "Am I in legal trouble if I use this code for nuclear weapons?"
<infinisil> samueldr: Generally, but motivation comes from Nix, particularly https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/106471
<{^_^}> #106471 (by FRidh, 2 days ago, open): License of package versus license of source/project and propagation of licenses
<infinisil> The SPDX licenses e.g. could all be mapped to a standard set of functions for answering questions about the licenses
<siraben> does anyone know that programming language used in nuclear control systems
<siraben> it's not well known and i recall the wikipedia page being sparse on it, don't remember the name though
<gchristensen> Voyager (nuclear powered ish) used FORTRAN and assembly
<colemickens> sounds like a RIIR to me
<gchristensen> probably TRL 9 of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_readiness_level has a strong overlap of nuclear cotnrol
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<gchristensen> siraben: maybe you could find a company that makes nuclear power plants and then find their careers page
<abathur> colemickens: rewrite it in roff?
<gchristensen> good lord
<energizer> siraben: you might be thinking of Ada
<siraben> It wasn't Ada, even more obscure
<siraben> Or maybe it wasn't nuclear plants, argh lost those channel logs
<energizer> ada is used for nuclear plants (https://www2.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html)
<ajs124> how about esterel?
<ajs124> > It is now used for critical control software in aircraft, helicopters, and nuclear power plants.
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected IN, expecting ')', at (string):447:46
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<samueldr> (about those tweets about github actions) this is why I use revision IDs to refer to external actions... no way I trust a tag or "latest"
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<etu> srhb: So I have an order on the G9 now. I found it as a returned item to a store, so it had 22% discount and rated "class 1 return item".
<srhb> Wow! That's a nice discount! Congratulations! :D
<etu> Indeed
<etu> Gonna go and pick it up when the store opens
<srhb> I finally got a PSU so now I'm only short a GPU to complete the build. Starting to get a little stressed out about completing it before the holidays :P
<srhb> etu: It's... Really heavy. Recommend a car or a friend helping :D
<etu> srhb: I have a car with a big trunk :)
<etu> srhb: And I'll bring my partner ;)
<srhb> I barely managed to assemble it alone and was at times a little scared of breaking it, but I managed. :P
<srhb> Good call ^^
<etu> time to pack up to do some things on the way there, like buying fuel for the car :p
<srhb> Enjoy ^^
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<sphalerite> ajs124: samueldr: IMO gmail is doing the right thing there. Fuck email tracking pixels.
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<eyJhb> v1.7.0, v1.8.0, v1.7.1. Yes, perfect
<eyJhb> Not sure what the reason is
<etu> srhb: Home again! This box is huge!
<srhb> It is. :D
<eyJhb> Wait, what box?
<sphalerite> etu: what's the G9?
<lovesegfault> I hate my coffee grinder
<etu> sphalerite: It's an ultrawide monitor.
<etu> sphalerite: That srhb happens to have as well.
<sphalerite> aaah
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<eyJhb> etu: what did you have to give for that bad boy then?
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<etu> eyJhb: ~12500sek
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<etu> Nice, now I have a window floating "between" the screens :D
<eyJhb> Expensive, but damn it is nice! (also, how often does one change the monitor) :D Do you use the virtual montitors/setmonitor in xrandr?
<patagonicus> Ok, I think I'm good with my 21:9 37.5 inch screen. :D
<srhb> etu: that was fast :P
<srhb> I just did cable management in the new PC... Is it normal that I can't get a post beep when there's no gpu yet?
<srhb> And also: Is it normal to be really _angry_ after doing cable management?
<srhb> So annoying.
<eyJhb> srhb: Depends. But normally I would assume a beep to be in order, but I rarely hear the post beep nowadays on PCs... :p
<eyJhb> Depends on how you do cable management!! Just get one of these things under the desk :p
<eyJhb> (it is the best thing I ever got. I just have two cables go to my desk, power and ethernet, and up in the tray they go!)
<srhb> I meant inside the thing. :P
<srhb> Infuriating.
<etu> srhb: Damn this display is f****** badass.
<etu> srhb: Why did I wait this long?
<srhb> etu: I felt much the same. It's really good :P
<eyJhb> srhb: WELL! THe key is not to have a case you can see into
<eyJhb> And then forgot, and newer look at it again.
<srhb> Got that covered. :P It was more the process that was infuriating.
<eyJhb> It has been too long since I did any desktop :p I mostly know the furstration of the "too many screws" after you have taken your laptop apart. That is scary :p
<eyJhb> And also... Very infuriating
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<hexa-> samueldr: what tweets were you refering to?
<joepie91> eyJhb: which display?
<etu> It's brutal!
<joepie91> what's the price tag on that?
<eyJhb> joepie91: 12500 SEK
<joepie91> also, huh, you seem to have it set up with two desktops?
<joepie91> > 12500 SEK
<etu> joepie91: Correct :)
<{^_^}> attempt to call something which is not a function but an integer, at (string):447:1
<joepie91> what
<eyJhb> > SEK 12500
<{^_^}> "12500 SEK (weakest of the Norse Brothers) = 8875.000000 DKK"
<joepie91> oh
<eyJhb> > DKK 8875
<{^_^}> "30751963.750000 VND"
<eyJhb> > VND 30751963
<{^_^}> "1168.574594 EUR"
<eyJhb> There you go!
<joepie91> oof
<joepie91> 💸
<joepie91> etu: how does the two-desktop setup work? didn't know you can do that
<eyJhb> xrandr virtual monitor/setmonitor I assume, not sure if etu uses something else
<etu> I use the built in picture in picture
<etu> So it acts as two monitors
<eyJhb> BUt that desk is quite clean, if there was a VESA mount for the monitor, that would be 10/10 :D
<etu> and you plug in two cables
<eyJhb> Damn
<eyJhb> That's even cooler :D
<thibm> (In the herbstluftwm tiling wm, you can set "virtual monitors" independently to real monitors, so it's really easy to get such setup)
<etu> eyJhb: It's quite heavy, haven't seen any VESA mount arm that can carry it
<LinuxHackerman> can't help thinking two monitors half the size would be a bit cheaper :>
<eyJhb> But... The borders LinuxHackerman
<etu> LinuxHackerman: But then you have the bezles in the middle
<LinuxHackerman> yeah but that's a lot of money for a little bit of bezel
<etu> LinuxHackerman: And yes, I had that before. So that was cheaper :D
<joepie91> etu: huh, cool
<etu> LinuxHackerman: But it's nicer an a lot of other ways as well. Like the curvature.
<LinuxHackerman> or maybe even 3 monitors. That can get you curvature, you don't have bezels in the middle of your field of vision, and you have even more pixels :D
<LinuxHackerman> Though I'm not sure that's still cheaper.
<eyJhb> https://imgur.com/a/NXIjwez is my setup, it might be somewhat cheaper (at least the ones I got). But damn I see the appeal of no bezels, and having a single one
<eyJhb> But the newer ones have almost nothing at the edges...
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<eyJhb> *ignore the nisser and the fox with its ass up*
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<eyJhb> Going to be another 3 years at minimum before I buy a new monitor however :( But hopefully at that time they have some VESA that can do such big monitors :D Still a nice screen.
<gchristensen> I'm a one-big-monitor kind of person, if I could get it to work reliably I'd close my laptop when at my desk
<eyJhb> gchristensen: Big as in ultra wide-screen big, or big as in TV big ?
<gchristensen> ultra wide-screen
<gchristensen> TVs aren't meant to be so close
<gchristensen> the top of the monitor should be even with your eyes, hard to do with a TV
<eyJhb> Well, SOME people are crazy and use 55" TVs as monitors up close... :p
<eyJhb> But why doesn't it work reliably?
<gchristensen> it used to go to sleep when I closed it and I haven't bothered trying again
<eyJhb> I know that feeling. The reason my laptop lid is open, is because else xrandr will give me a error (no matter what command I run basically)... So it is just easier to do as it wishes and keep it open.
<abathur> samueldr: I did get a notification overnight; it showed up as unread in my notification inbox on GH before I opened the email. After I opened the email and reloaded the notification inbox, it was marked as read.
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<samueldr> yeah, that's the expected flow, abathur, but mine get "opened" and "read" when they get delivered to my mailbox :)
<abathur> nod, just clarifying that I observed it working this way with gmail
<samueldr> yep, I'm being used by "google apps for your domain" (now gsuite, if it still hasn't changed for another silly name)
<samueldr> probably relevant
<abathur> that may; mine is plain gmail
<samueldr> just checked, did not open any e-mail, all new notifications are read
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<eyJhb> samueldr: Do you get email notifications of everything that happens on Github? As in, all notifications you have on Github you will get a email about?
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<samueldr> eyJhb: yes
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<eyJhb> That must be a LOT of emails a day...
<samueldr> kind of
<eyJhb> I was active in 1-2 threads, and got too many to care at some point
<samueldr> I don't subscribe to e.g. all of nixpkgs
<samueldr> it's still whatever gets into my github notification inbox
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<bbigras> nice
<sphalerite> joepie91: yes! And the tweet ID starts with 1337 :>
<joepie91> ha, nice little detail
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<colemickens> "the top of the monitor should be even with your eyes," wat
<crazazy[m]> yay nixos is finally updated to the version where firefox is not broken anymore
<colemickens> that's just what you think, give it time
<colemickens> oh you mean the extensions, never mind, ignore my (meant as a joke anyway) comment
<joepie91> lol
<crazazy[m]> yea the extensions lol
<colemickens> (I really wasn't trying to imply nixpkgs would break firefox again)
<crazazy[m]> things that brake often in nixos:
<crazazy[m]> python packages
<crazazy[m]> steam
<crazazy[m]> uhh
<joepie91> KDE settings panels
<samueldr> colemickens: part of ergonomic guidelines
<samueldr> when sitting up straight, the top of your monitor should be about at the height of your eyes
<samueldr> though, I seriously doubt most of those cargo-culted guidelines were updated from the era of 13" CRTs
<samueldr> (according to what I personally am aware of)
<Ashy> hmm, how do you set the plasma user profile picture?
<colemickens> samueldr: Idk... I tried it and I'm definitely just staring down at the monitor now?
<samueldr> as I said, according to "guidelines" :)
<__monty__> About 1/4 of my display is above eye height.
<samueldr> I believe there is *some* truth about that, but probably not the top of the monitor... my experience tells me it's probably related to the size of the display too
<Ashy> ah you just need to put the image at ~/.face.icon
<__monty__> Definitely also depends on your usage. I look more at the top of my display, use the top edge to keep track of where I am on a webpage, watch videos in the upper half, short-lived terminals don't get filled past half the display. But chat does usually happen at the bottom. So I can imagine some people may prefer being closer to the bottom edge of the display.
<samueldr> beatifully illustrated how it needs to be updated https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/computerworkstations/components_monitors.html#Angle
<samueldr> the main thing to keep in mind is that you should find a position for your monitor that helps you keep your head in a neutral position with its use
<samueldr> and as usual, guidelins are made for the average human, which doesn't exist
<samueldr> guidlines*
<samueldr> UGH, typing
<joepie91> typing is the worst
<samueldr> in fact, every "ergonomics" guidelines should be re-written to: "ensure your _____ position is neutral" first, and then give tips for different kind of people
<samueldr> even the "sit up straight" like the following is probably not universal https://www.viewsonic.com/library/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/LB0001-3.jpg
<samueldr> I seem to remember studies saying that "slouching" for some might be better
<samueldr> less pressure on a single point or something along the line
<colemickens> I have a very unique back, so my mileage sort of varies in general.
<colemickens> I do think I needed to lower my desk a bit more though, this does feel better. (Thanks for the links :) )
<samueldr> hey, I linked them to say they probably are in dire need to stop cargo-culting!
<samueldr> they might or might not be actually good!
<__monty__> samueldr: Are you sure you mean slouching and not reclining? Because I know there's advise that sitting forward on your seat and leaning back with a straight back, so you touch the backrest about at the scapulas is supposedly better than sitting against the backrest.
<samueldr> __monty__: might be reclining, I wasn't sure of the right word
<samueldr> the main point being that it goes against the usual recommendations
<joepie91> samueldr: the main advice I've seen is
<joepie91> 'vary your position'
<samueldr> yeah
<joepie91> this is why I got a wobbly stool, also
<samueldr> that's a recent one
<samueldr> I wanted to point out the "well known" written-down things that checkbox-compliance will usually follow
<joepie91> ah right :P
<joepie91> I assume ergonomic recommendations are like automated testing and style guides
<joepie91> they're not the optimal approach, they're just Good Enough and cheap to implement in a company
<samueldr> though here they're probably not updated to recent hardware :)
<joepie91> KDE is being awesome today. my Element window has a different title in a) the window titlebar, b) the taskbar button, and c) the on-hover taskbar preview popup
<joepie91> none of them are the same. impressive.
<drakonis> impressive.
<joepie91> (the titlebar one is the correct one :P)
<__monty__> Aren't titlebar and taskbar different properties altogether? WM_NAME and WM_ICON_NAME or something?
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