gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<clever> andi-: oh god no, lol
<gchristensen> anyone in to abandoned anti-icbm facilities?
<gchristensen> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Stanley+R.+Mickelsen+Safeguard+Complex/@48.5883554,-98.3638771,3a,75y,93.32h,80.66t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNMJw_5cjYGCkt1bGAmf5CpPL6-bdkRtWu1umM_!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNMJw_5cjYGCkt1bGAmf5CpPL6-bdkRtWu1umM_%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-2.9338646-ya267.02002-ro0-fo100!7i8000!8i4000!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xd8cc1b1384dfa519!8m2!3d48.5888646!4d-98.35
<gchristensen> 61646
<gchristensen> oops
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<joepie91> general home improvement tip
<joepie91> if you do not have carpet tape yet, buy some
<joepie91> (from a known-good brand, otherwise it'll be a nightmare to cut)
<joepie91> it's like the double-sided equivalent of duct tape
<joepie91> attaches pretty much anything to anything
<samueldr> unpopular opinion: duct tape sucks
<samueldr> it's a fine thing for temporary situations, but not much else imho
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<LnL> samueldr: I made a merge request :)
<samueldr> LnL: ??
<{^_^}> samueldr/nix-top#3 (by LnL7, open): add darwin support
<LnL> lol
<samueldr> LnL: will probably merge it partially
<samueldr> though thanks!
<samueldr> am I to assume that this makes it work for darwin?
<samueldr> if so, triple-thanks
<LnL> oh sure, it could be way nicer since it's ruby
<samueldr> this was at the back of my mind, actually, to review all shelled out calls to utilities and see what ruby stdlib could replace them
<samueldr> though, weirdly enough, I wasn't able to use io/console to do the stty stuff :/
<samueldr> as hard as I tried prodding it, it wouldn't read non-blocking stding char-by-char
<samueldr> stdin*
<samueldr> eh, may as well merge it now and *later* fix it for the stdlib module
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<manveru> wasn't there a flag you set for that...
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<manveru> ldlework: https://github.com/kjnilsson/fez :)
<ldlework> omg
<ldlework> ugh still requires .net lol
<ldlework> no go on nixos
<ldlework> my main computing platform
* ldlework jumps in an ocean
<manveru> what doesn't work about .net?
<ldlework> i don't quite remember but i remember i sank weeks into it
<manveru> interesting :)
<manveru> can't say i've ever tried it, but i know there's some mono apps on nixos, so in theory it works...
<manveru> but ofc i know nothing about the dev workflow
<ldlework> manveru: and there's .net core
<ldlework> which is totally separate
<manveru> is that different?
<manveru> ok
<ldlework> yeah
<manveru> but both run f#?
<ldlework> yeah there's .net as in mono
<ldlework> and then there's .net core which is the open-source framework
<ldlework> afaiu
<manveru> wow, they mention nix here https://fsharp.org/use/linux/
<ldlework> yeah which i believe is .net core support for F#
<ldlework> but to use fable, you need .net
<ldlework> it was a while ago so i don't quite remember what the issue was
<{^_^}> #32779 (by danr, open): Packaging request: Fable compiler
<manveru> What's fable
<manveru> Ah
<ldlework> manveru: imagine F# on the frontend and backend, but the backend is backed by BEAM
* ldlework lowers his shades
<ldlework> mother of god
<manveru> I'm not actually speechless, just eating lunch 😉
<ldlework> manveru: what do you do
<manveru> Enjoying my time in a hospital
<ldlework> What do you mean?
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<andi-> Was there someone here referring to one handed keyboard layouts lately? My right hand has the derps (again) -.-
<gchristensen> maltron has one ...
<gchristensen> where does it hurt?
<andi-> center of the back of the hand. A bit around the joints as well..
<gchristensen> hrm
<andi-> I can type on the keyboard but holding my phone just hurts..
<andi-> been typing since friday expect for 7h of sleep so maybe it is just that..
<andi-> (7h/day)
<gchristensen> :|
* etu has an ErgoDox that have saved his life and career
<gchristensen> I had high hopes for the ergodox, unfortnately it didn't work for me
<andi-> well time to brew some coffee and to laundry... :)
<andi-> s/to/do
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<manveru> yay, got home today :D
<andi-> you usually do not get home? :)
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<manveru> was just a week in hospital this time :)
<gchristensen> I'm glad you're home & well, manveru (at least, I assume you're well!)
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<manveru> yeah, just a few more days of antibiotics and i'm done :)
<manveru> but thanks for the concern
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<LnL> does anybody else have issues with the letsencrypt fingerprints sometimes?
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<manveru> LnL: yeah
<manveru> though i think in my case it was rate limiting... not entirely sure
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<iqubic> What is the best way to create a VM on NixOS. I want to try out GuixSD.
<d1rewolf_> iqubic: personally, I just enable virtualbox and boom
<d1rewolf_> iqubic: virtualisation.virtualbox.host.enable = true; in configuration.nix
<iqubic> What software does that install?
<manveru> d1rewolf_: they don't provide vbox images
<d1rewolf_> and then nixos-rebuild switch
<d1rewolf_> manveru: ah...
<d1rewolf_> nm then
<manveru> virtualbox isn't FOSS :)
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<manveru> and their manual describes all the steps needed for qemu
<manveru> just follow them...
<d1rewolf_> I see. yes, the purity ;)
<gchristensen> also mayb try guix's chan :)
<d1rewolf_> anyone running keybase on nixos here?
<d1rewolf_> just curious how folks are handling the mounting of /keybase. stimply running kbfs.service doesn't seem to do it
<manveru> d1rewolf_: you also need to run kbfs
<manveru> `kbfs = { enable = true; mountPoint = "/keybase"; }; keybase.enable = true;`
<d1rewolf_> manveru: you mean in addition to starting the service?
<d1rewolf_> ok, I didn't set mountPoint. let me try that. thx
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<manveru> welp, i just tried their qemu image, can't say it's very friendly :|
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<manveru> it lets you use guix about once, until it runs out of the 3 or so MB of disk space it has
<d1rewolf_> manveru: do you use any of these extra options? https://gist.github.com/taktoa/3133a4d9b1614fad1f4841f145441406
<d1rewolf_> i guess it's a good general question. given a service, how can I tell the minimal amount of config items needed to run it?
<manveru> nah
<manveru> you don't need the GUI to use keybase
<manveru> though you might need it for first setup
<manveru> not sure
<d1rewolf_> ah, k. I wish to use the gui as well
<d1rewolf_> thx
<manveru> well, gui works too
<manveru> but i really only have this for module config
<manveru> i don't need the GUI on startup
<manveru> and no clue what those extraFlags do
<d1rewolf_> manveru: k, thank you
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<sphalerite> manveru: I was under the impression that virtualbox is free, but the extension pack isn't
<sphalerite> manveru: and the guest additions I'm not sure
<samueldr> it's free, but not Free
<samueldr> (gratis, but not libre)
<samueldr> that is, the extensions pack
* samueldr tried to rephrase what he initially misinterpreted
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<LnL> jeeze, what the hell is this this manual build doing...
<samueldr> manual as in nix* manual?
<LnL> nixpkgs
<LnL> I just want to see if my xml is valid :p
<samueldr> ah
<samueldr> cd "<nixpkgs/doc>"; nix-shell --run make
<samueldr> though I must assume you already figured that out and the exclamation was related to something else
* samueldr now wants cd "<nixpkgs/doc>" to work
<LnL> hmm, it's llvm6
<joepie91> I have questions
<samueldr> oh boy
<samueldr> jack of all trade, master of none
<samueldr> that's a full stack engineer^W powertool
<joepie91> hahaha
<joepie91> samueldr: commentary from another channel: "tool to open the new macbooks"
<samueldr> get you a big rock, will do about as good, be much cheaper
<joepie91> I genuinely wonder whether thhis will be any good
<joepie91> this*
<joepie91> my past experiences with experimental-seeming products from Lidl have been very good
<samueldr> it's probably good enough for light use
<joepie91> but this seems like it should not work
<samueldr> do you know about the youtube channel AvE?
<LnL> you need to buy a magical screwdriver to open those up
<joepie91> samueldr: yes
<joepie91> LnL: ?
<samueldr> I'd love to see him handle that thing
<joepie91> heh
<joepie91> seriously though, I'm genuinely intrigued
<joepie91> also, it claims a tool-less head swap
<samueldr> in this case, is the tool the one handling the thing?
<joepie91> lol
<joepie91> LnL: oh, the macbook, not the powertool :P
<LnL> you can't find that kind in any regular shop
<joepie91> I bet aliexpress has it
<LnL> but you can probably 'open' up a macbook with that tool :p
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