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<andi->
ekleog: regarding matrix/synapse in general: how do you treat the ever growing database of metadat that has basically no value to users after a while? I run an irc2matrix bridge and the amount of bloat in the database is incredible.. about 20GB for every few months. (asking here since -dev doesn't seem like the right place)
<ekleog>
andi-: I don't run a matrix-appservice-irc, so I can't really answer for that, but I haven't had any indicator turning red on my <10-users synapse instance yet (apart from the federation to matrix.org that has gone down relatively regularly for me :`)
<ekleog>
If I remember correctly and the DB is in /var/lib/postgresql/, then I've got ~1.8GiB of data for something like 6 months (before that, I was on a shared matrix server, to which I don't think I have any access remaining)
<andi->
yeah, the problem isn't appservice related I just chipped that in for context.. It seems like there isn't much you can do about the amount of data one sotres there :/
<ekleog>
yeah, that seems to be one of the big issues of matrix currently
<ekleog>
I'm planning to try to install an XMPP server (have heard prosody is easy to install), but I'll likely stay on matrix just so that if the hype goes on maybe there'll actually be a federated chat system used by the layman
<ekleog>
Like, it's hard to clean up the backlog
<andi->
I am also leaning towards XMPP (again). Been using it non-stop but matrix actually came with those high hopes.. :/
<ekleog>
Hmm you must be on quite a lot of channels, in the shared matrix HS (I still have accesses on it, finally, thanks to still being the ircop for this association :)) it's been running for like 2 years and has 30G in /var/lib/postgresql
<ekleog>
And it's running an irc bridge, even though not for freenode
<ekleog>
(matrix comes with high hopes, but IMO it's still alpha-quality software, and hopefully dendrite will improve that -- then, I've been thinking that for like a year x))
<andi->
dendrite.. right.. that will finish right after the rust rewrite someone started..
<LnL>
rain! I can breathe again
<andi->
there is still a heat warning here..
<andi->
Never really saw that before
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<sphalerite>
I think matrix's biggest problem is that it suggests the matrix.org HS
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<srk>
HS?
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<infinisil>
srk: homeserver
<infinisil>
"Each account in the Matrix federation is associated with a single homeserver. The software running at this server stores the history and account information for that user. Homeservers synchronise message history with other homeservers."
<srk>
right, was wondering how matrix works
<srk>
is there a sane way to run it?
<sphalerite>
nixos!
<srk>
:))
<srk>
that's the matrix-synapse component?
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<__monty__>
Matrix is still so cumbersome though : (
<__monty__>
Also, the "you can never remove your account" bit is terrible.
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<jasongrossman>
mi
<jasongrossman>
(Ignore that. Typed into the wrong window.)
<simpson>
do?
<jasongrossman>
simpson: Phew. Good to have the tonic.
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<ldlework>
#linux is an anti-nixos shithole
<andi->
why?
* andi-
tries to avoid too broad topic channels
<ldlework>
they're against nixos and their arguments and rhetoric is horrible
<samueldr>
it it because it's impossible to cause impurities in their systems that they dislike it?
<andi->
^ that is what I often encounter..
<ldlework>
one person compared nix to GNU Stow
<samueldr>
or that because it's possible to have a number of the same packages at different version?
<samueldr>
(I'm phrasing pros as cons here!)
<gchristensen>
it is ok, they don't need to like it
<samueldr>
(though I must admit that at first it was frustrating to not be able to impurely just edit a file, even though I knew it was good not being able to :))
<ldlework>
samueldr: i've always hated having to learn various system config formats so I'm glad I don't have to
<samueldr>
I do to!
<ldlework>
while i have all of your attention, i was thinking it'd be cool to have a package bounty system
<samueldr>
I'm mostly interested in hearing *actual* things where there could be improvement, if there's a way to hash out a couple bullet points
<ldlework>
i really need licecap to be packaged but can't be arsed to package it up myself
<samueldr>
bounty as monetary bounties?
<ldlework>
yeah, my sweet prose isn't have any effect
<samueldr>
:)
<samueldr>
maybe looking into existing bounty platforms to find one where it could work?
<samueldr>
though, the biggest issue afterward is *who is the maintainer*?
<samueldr>
the one making the change may not be interested into maintaining updates after a quick buck, and the one asking for it may not be able to maintain it
<samueldr>
(let's assume here that not all users are developers)
<samueldr>
(which I hope in some way one day nixos will have only a minority of developers!)
<ldlework>
samueldr: i don't have a good answer, i just need a convinent way to record on nixos asap
<samueldr>
yeah, sorry if it was antagonistic, the idea is good, but it does need *actual thought*