gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<simpson> Ah, that feeling when I need to change services.xserver.anything~
<gchristensen> is it a good feeling?
<simpson> No, the X server stopped responding to all my input and I had to reboot.
<simpson> Switched from xserver.synaptics to xserver.libinput. Yay?
<gchristensen> ...yay
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<infinisil> Ipfs!
<manveru> yeah... last time i ran IPFS i got an angry message from our networkadmin wanting to block me because it probed our whole internal network and he thought it was malware :P
<infinisil> Despite me being such a big fan of ipfs, i never actually used it that much
<samueldr> (I meant the sound of pronouncing eepfos would sound like a painful thing to happen to you, like those cards on batman)
<infinisil> manveru: oh so it does that to do p2p if possible
<infinisil> I bet that's turnoffable
<manveru> how does ipfs sound like eepfos? it's "eye pee ef es" ;)
<manveru> probably, i didn't actually find any use for it, so i just turned it off and haven't thought of it since
<gchristensen> any binary cache must be very fast at replying with a 404
<gchristensen> so every node you talk to must have a total picture of the contents
<gchristensen> solve that, and you get much closer to something being a viable BC
<infinisil> How long does it take for ipfs to know that it can't find a hash?
<LnL> quickly replying 404 is easy :p
<andi-> On that note I'd really like if we had an alternative for when the day happens that S3 breaks (again) ;)
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<gchristensen> I asked #IPFS when the http gateway would return a 404 and they said never
<andi-> wow
<simpson> gchristensen: Perhaps the tail is wagging the dog here; why is HTTP the right thing to use for binary caches?
<andi-> what would be your alternatives for file retrieval?
<infinisil> Okay but Nix wouldn't use IPFS like that. Nix would have to use a hydra provided mapping from drv -> ipfs hash of the output
<infinisil> That hash will always be available as long as somebody has it, there are no invalid hashes
<infinisil> And Nix would only try it once it knows from hydra that it's supposed to exist
<infinisil> That's what I imagine how it would work at least
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<makefu> gchristensen: mhhh that does not seem to be it, tcpdump says "Alert (Level: Fatal Description: Unknown CA)", message is coming from the curl client (not the proxy)
<andi-> makefu: some TLS interception proxy?
<makefu> yes exactly, i am trying to get nix running through it . NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE should be set correctly, proxy is also set it seems.
<makefu> nix-shell -vvvvvv returns the correctly configured paths for cacert and such
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<makefu> wow that is weird, setting NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE to something else results in "Problem with ssl ca cert (path? access rights?)" and after that nix starts building bootstrapping tools
<makefu> wupps wrong chat :D was meant to be in #nixos, anways...
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<drakonis> so, what's this about NUR?
<infinisil> ,NUR
<{^_^}> Nix User Repository: User contributed nix packages, https://github.com/nix-community/NUR
<infinisil> :P
<drakonis> what i should be asking is
<drakonis> shouldn't it host the third party language repository package collections?
<drakonis> the automated package sets
<drakonis> since those aren't built by default
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<infinisil> Drakonis: which ones would that be?
<infinisil> Haskell packages e.g. Are automated and also built by hydra
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<infinisil> And nixpkgs shouldn't depend on anything from NUR
<drakonis> i think python packages does that?
<infinisil> Nope they're also built by hydra
<drakonis> hmm
<drakonis> strange
<infinisil> The python2 and python3 ones only though
<infinisil> Not all versions
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<gchristensen> 11 days to surgery!
<andi-> \o/
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<ldlework> nur, interesting
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