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<mekeor> https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/tmtynkky/nixos-arm/installer/sd-image-aarch64-linux.img returns an "forbidden" error. thus, it's not possible to download te aarch64-installation image. Dezgeg, could you fix this?
<mekeor> is there any other place where i can download the image right now?
<mekeor> i also can't build the image on my own because it's not possible to cross-compile
<mekeor> so, currently my only way would be to install another distro on the raspi, then install nix on that distro, and finally build the image on it
<mekeor> would be nice if someone could offer me that image
<gchristensen> sorry mekeor, based on nobody's response I'd be inclined to think the only people looking at IRC don't have it, and the ones that have it will be happy to when they're around.
<flokli> maybe andi- still has it in his downloads ;-)
<andi-> mekeor: I can offer: f41fda1c130d9a51b9f80f4976f3e7d9d4aa34463d873e59f6ad11f49b6a3547 /home/andi//Downloads/sd-image-aarch64-linux.img
<andi-> which I downloaded from the above URL a few weeks ago (28.Nov 2017)
<andi-> none of them contain any backdoors (from me) ;-)
<mekeor> hmm, in fact, i'm thinking about whether i want to download an OS-image from a stranger (without being able to verify the hash)
<andi-> thats all I can offer right now :-)
<mekeor> on the other side, dezgeg is a stranger, too, for me :D
<gchristensen> the nixos project trusts dezgeg to bootstrap nixos on aarch64
<mekeor> thank you, andi-, but i'm gonna wait for Dezgeg to fix the image :P
<gchristensen> I would have no worry about an image received from andi-, but I'm just a stranger too
<vcunat> We've seen both of them in person, if that's a comfort :-)
<vcunat> (or some people claiming to be them, that is)
<flokli> vcunat: shame! you should have checked our passports!
<flokli> :-D
<vcunat> I don't think I have profficiency to do that reliably
<gchristensen> "imposter! your passport doesn't identify you as flokli!
<vcunat> (and does knowledge of real identity help that much actually?)
<flokli> waah! I'm doomed
<vcunat> :-)
<andi-> if I'd create a signature with an Key beloging to my name that one of you verified maybe...
<andi-> for the record: I uploaded the old iso here: https://s.h4ck.space/2017-11-28-sd-image-aarch64-linux.img
<Dezgeg> I fixed the permissions now
<flokli> nice :-)
<flokli> Dezgeg: some objections on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/33260 ?
<Dezgeg> seems fine now
<Dezgeg> does that need to go to staging though? have to check that
<mekeor> Dezgeg: thanks
<flokli> Dezgeg: PR was for master, but maybe staging would be more appropriate
<vcunat> flokli: yes, better staging, according to the the borg tags, assuming it's not urgent
<vcunat> (so far Hydra doesn't provide binaries for v6/7 anyway)
<LnL> just FYI there are already a lot of changes in staging right now
<vcunat> there are
<vcunat> Darwin machines are slowing the iterations a lot
<LnL> urgh, those annoying darwin people with their expensive hardware
* gchristensen eyes the singular aarch64 box that nixos could only get because Packet and ARM wanted to give us bone
<flokli> LnL: so you think we should wait until staging is once merged, or merge this to staging now to get save another mass rebuild?
<flokli> s/save/saved/
<andi-> Do we have experience with qemu (kvm) on aarch64? Since I am still tempted to buy one of those "desktop" 96 core machines (as a home storage/build system) that just came to mind...
<LnL> we don't have to wait, but it might delay the merge
<LnL> I think some stuff broke with the cross changes https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1422784?compare=trunk#tabs-now-fail
<vcunat> andi-: you can get access to our community instance of that machine
<vcunat> (to try things out)
<gchristensen> he already does :P
<andi-> I already got access ;-)
<vcunat> :-)
<andi-> I can test that there ofc
<vcunat> (and linked stuff, but I don't really know anything)
<andi-> vcunat: thanks, I'll have a look
<andi-> works.. just booted a nixos-build-vms machine on the test box..
<gchristensen> :o :D
<andi-> time to grep for that link of the shop...
<gchristensen> ok andi- but it'd be real good of you if you put a borg instance on it :P
<gchristensen> (or 3...! :))
<andi-> ;-)
<andi-> sure thing
<flokli> oh nice, seems like even the other archs are already supported.
<flokli> so we could use the aarch64 box to emulate x86_64, and boot a hackintosh inside :-D
<andi-> m(
<andi-> flokli: stop trolling, do some work :P
<LnL> lol
<gchristensen> haha
<flokli> right
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<andi-> so those cavium desktop computers do not have OpenBMC support :/
<andi-> at least none that I could find
<gchristensen> :/
<gchristensen> you could go ask in #worksonarm
<andi-> but since the chip is pretty much standard I have high hopes :-)
<andi-> I did ask in #openbmc already
<andi-> so far no reply and no further communication
<> changed the topic of #nixos-aarch64 to: Topic for #nixos-aarch64 is "Get access to the NixOS Community aarch64 build box: https://github.com/nix-community/aarch64-build-box ... todo: https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/trunk#tabs-jobs"
<> changed the topic of #nixos-aarch64 to: Topic set by gchristensen!~gchristen@unaffiliated/grahamc on 2017-12-14 00:56:57 UTC
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<mekeor> on a raspberry pi 3, `nixos-rebuild switch` fails with "Out of memory" while building nixos-manpages / nixos-manual although i set `services.nixosManual.enable = false;`. any ideas what i might be missing?
<andi-> --fast ?
<mekeor> alright, i'll try :)
<mekeor> oh, i just realized on https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM, that i have to manually enable binary-caches
<andi-> not with aarch64 cache.nixos.org works there
<gchristensen> hmm you may not need it for aarch64
<mekeor> oh, ok
<samueldr> amended the page to make it obvious the cache params is for the unsupported platforms
<andi-> can't we use the `system` attribute to make that conditional in the config example ? ;-)
<andi-> many people will probably just copy&paste that
<samueldr> that's a good idea
<gchristensen> that is some smarts, andi-
<andi-> while we are at that: How do I get the current hostname ? ;-)
<andi-> I would like to make my configuraiton portal across devices.. currently I've to smylink one file to configuration.nix that contains the specific inclues but that sucks a bit
<gchristensen> like _current_ hostname, or the one specified by the config?
<mekeor> mekeor, andi-: still same issue
<andi-> current
<andi-> gchristensen: ^
<gchristensen> ehh
<gchristensen> theres _a way_ but :|
<gchristensen> you could do builtins.readfile "/etc/hostname" :P
<samueldr> fun tidbit, that's the earliest gchristensen mentioned raspberry pi in my logs https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/2016-12-31#1483217431-1483216145;
<samueldr> (that search found)
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<andi-> gchristensen: thanks, I've tried to read through the builtins a couple of times.. it strikes me very often what I missed /o\
<andi-> https://www.pine64.org/?product=rock64-media-board-computer could be a nice alternative to a RPi to develop on
<andi-> pricewise is almost the samm ballpark with 4GB of RAM
<samueldr> I'm curious what's the mainline kernel support situation with rockchip hardware
<samueldr> allwinner, while not stellar, mostly works (see pine64-LTS)
<samueldr> this developer (which releases imho well built images for pine hardware) seems to work on mailine kernel+u-boot
<andi-> mhm those commits do not look like the could just be submitted :/
<samueldr> yeah, I don't know, compared to allwinner, wbat the general effort for rockchip mainlining looks like
<andi-> clock, power, ethernet, gpu is what I can find for the RK3328 in my 4.15-rc5 repo
<andi-> devicetree also exists
<andi-> some pinctrl stuff
<andi-> tempting