<jtojnar>
mostly just handles stuff I commonly comment on in PRs and not a lot
<siraben>
picking locks? hehe
<V>
energizer: he has shown videos about things he hasn't managed to pick [yet]
<V>
not going to check rn, but I believe it's the bowley I'm thinking of, ye
<siraben>
Turns out the TSA looks are very easy to pick, fold a paperclip, insert, rotate and pull out
<siraben>
or maybe it was a poor quality luggage lock, need to see
<siraben>
s/looks/lock
<V>
also, ooh
<V>
LPL actually commented on that video
<V>
>This is a really interesting project that shows promise. It's always fun to see what happens when fresh eyes look at a problem.
<V>
>Shane and I just talked, and he'll be sending an improved version my way once it's ready. I look forward to seeing if I can come up with a creative approach to cracking this nut.
<V>
the entire comment section is people talking about LPL
<V>
unsurprising, I guess
<siraben>
Jan Tojnar: what's nixpkgs-hammering do? isn't totally clear from the readme
<siraben>
It's a linter?
<jtojnar>
siraben yeah, I would consider it a linter
<gchristensen>
wow nice
<samueldr>
wow
<samueldr>
I didn't know in which texlive package a thing was
<samueldr>
scheme-full is still downloading
<samueldr>
I don't know for how long, but it's been a while
<siraben>
samueldr: I usually specify texlive with packages
<samueldr>
>> I didn't know in which texlive package a thing was
<samueldr>
I didn't think it would be *that* full :)
<siraben>
Ah
<samueldr>
(for those following from yesterday's adventures... yes I'm down into LaTeX)
<samueldr>
though through pandoc as I'm a lazy boi
<V>
haha
<V>
my... condolences?
<V>
ah, fair
<samueldr>
the other "solution" I knew of... turns out it didn't work any better in practice if you need more than one page to make a PDF of
<samueldr>
buggy as hell, and has limitations
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<red[evilred]>
lukegb (IRC): what happened to matrix.org?
<lukegb>
red[evilred]: oh, the Freenode<->matrix bridge died and came back
<red[evilred]>
ah
<red[evilred]>
I run my own so ...
<red[evilred]>
you're welcome to use mine as a backup if you want
<red[evilred]>
I leave mine open until I get abuse
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<red[evilred]>
(with the caveat that the matrix bridge does log everything in channels to a database and I've yet to really find anything to trim that logging to a reasonable level)
<red[evilred]>
I don't do anything with it - but I'm all about transparency
<red[evilred]>
in other words, don't join #bank_robbery_logs
<red[evilred]>
maybe logs is teh wrong word
<red[evilred]>
it stores channel data so that if a client logs out and logs back in they get to keep a certain amount of history
<red[evilred]>
as their "irc puppet" never leaves
<red[evilred]>
when you disconnect from matrix, you don't disconnect from irc
<ldlework>
So I've been writing some Java lately, and this probably isn't the right crowd, but I don't see why people hate it so much.
<adisbladis>
ldlework: It's boring and verbose. I don't hate it but it would rarely be my language of choice for anything.
<ldlework>
I been doing Minecraft plugin writing, and it's just simple, has respectable generics, and just gets out of the way.
<adisbladis>
But I agree. Java is pretty solid.
<sphalerite>
ldlework: I think it's largely not because of the language itself but because of how it's used in ~~enterprise software~~
<ldlework>
With IntelliJ's Idea, the experience is much like C#.
<adisbladis>
sphalerite: Right
<ldlework>
sphalerite: Yeah that's the meme that's kept me from it for 20 years.
<adisbladis>
SomethingScrollerViewControllerPluginFactoryBean < this is what gave java a bad name
<ldlework>
There are good DI frameworks for Java
<ldlework>
So you probably wouldn't need such a factory.
<ldlework>
Though, with DI you sometimes do!
<adisbladis>
sphalerite: I was doing Android dev a couple of years back professionally. Java on Android is actually pretty nice for the most part.
<adisbladis>
It's very different from enterprisey java
<V>
ldlework: Java used to be worse. Java 8+ improved things a bunch, and development is going at a faster pace these days I feel?
<ldlework>
Yeah I'm using Java 11 and it's got lambdas and type inference and shit.
<V>
but also... the whole "it has a GC, it's bloated" meme crowd
<V>
yeah, lambdas were an 8 feature
<adisbladis>
V: Most languages have GC nowadays anyway
<ldlework>
I'll admit though, when I work with C# and Java, I start immediately thinking in terms of type dependencies as services that are gonna get injected into each other and stuff.
<ldlework>
lol even for minecraft plugins
<V>
adisbladis: GC used to be slow, peoples beliefs didn't stay with the times
<V>
GCs are insanely good these days
<ldlework>
ur insanely gud these days
<V>
am I
<ldlework>
no one told you?!
<ldlework>
i write the memos
<ldlework>
no one reads them
<V>
I think it's been a while since anyone said that, so clearly I was better in the past :p
<etu>
ldlework: I didn't get the memo
<ldlework>
typical!
<ldlework>
sorry it's 7:30 AM and I've been writing Java all night...
<supersandro2000>
I just looked into all-packages.nix and yeah sorting is well... not happening
<supersandro2000>
maybe we should automate it or just abandon it
<averell>
i think keeping thematically related stuff close and alphabetic order competed each other to death