<infinisil>
joepie91: In that way bash and nix are very similar, both are pretty much just glue for software
<gchristensen>
+1
<gchristensen>
I like Nix's execution model better, though
<infinisil>
The inexistent one you mean?
<gchristensen>
no, I'm serious :) the part where an execution begins and ends and you don't get to touch it in the middle and in the end it is really gone
<gchristensen>
no processes you &'d and forgot to kill ...
<gchristensen>
I think for it to be (more) certain you have to first sigstop, but even still you can still spawn daemons with a double-fork I think
<gchristensen>
this is the innovation of cgroups: you can kill an entire cgroup and know you got everything
<gchristensen>
notaheuntouhenoehu I've been fighting a corrupted grub for like half a day and only just now realized the problem is I was writing grub to part1 and also mkfs'ing part1 vfat
<infinisil>
Ooff
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<aanderse>
infinisil: are you going to blog about that project at some point?
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<philipp[m]>
I personally know people that claim using shebangs with absolute paths is preferred over calling /usr/bin/env. What should I do?
<philipp[m]>
Can I sue?
<philipp[m]>
Is there a recodring of RMS singing the posix standard somewhere on the internet that I can play to them in an endless loop?
<Taneb>
I think subjecting anyone to an endless loop of RMS is probably against the Geneva convention
<gchristensen>
philipp[m]: probably a good start is getting a firm understanding of why they think it is preferred
<aanderse>
a grizzled old sysadmin once said to me "what a waste of cpu cycles" with respect to /usr/bin/env BLAH
<aanderse>
i think he was only half joking, but i can't be sure
<philipp[m]>
(for the record: I'm like 2/3 joking)
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<philipp[m]>
I think their reasoning is "so users can't break stuff", but in my experience not letting users break stuff easily will lead to users becoming more creative in breaking your stuff.
<philipp[m]>
aaron: Worse than that! It's even more precious io!
<aanderse>
yeah, now that you mention... maybe that was what he said, it was quite a while ago :)
<gchristensen>
this has become really unreliable for me recently, I wonder if something in the kernel or bash changed ... exec 3>&1; exec 2> >(tee /proc/self/fd/3 | tee /dev/console | logger) ; exec 1>&2
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<gchristensen>
tokudan[m]: check: status.nixos.org/ -- it has some more info than howoldis
<tokudan[m]>
nice... but how can the small channel have a build problem if the normal channel is fine? isn't the small channel a subset of the normal channel?
<gchristensen>
I'm not sure -- maybe you could look in to it? (also, maybe take this to #nixos-dev)
<__monty__>
tokudan[m]: It's stuck on an older revision than non-small?
<__monty__>
Maybe it's trying to take a bigger step?
<__monty__>
Or a smaller step that ends up on a broken commit?
<NinjaTrappeur>
Is the status.nixos.org prometheus API public? Can I use it for some personal tooling (very low traffic, maybe 1 request every two days)?
<yorick>
it seems that you can
<NinjaTrappeur>
yes, but should I? :)
<gchristensen>
I don't see why not, go for it
<yorick>
I wouldn't even worry about 1 request per day
<NinjaTrappeur>
👍 cool!
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<infinisil>
aanderse: I probably will, eventually :P
<infinisil>
Once i set up a blog
<aanderse>
infinisil: i love what i see so far :-)
<pie_[bnc]>
what did infinisil do this time? :P
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<ashkitten>
thank heck for find, grep, sort, uniq and comm
<ashkitten>
i've got approx 5.4 gigs of photos to sort through manually at some point from my google takeout but at least it's in a manageable format now
<waleee-cl>
are the photos still provided through randomized url:s? Saw some do a youtube dissecting of his google takeout ~3 years ago
<waleee-cl>
* youtube video
<ashkitten>
no, they're all in the archive
<ashkitten>
the archive is like 50 gigs lol
<ashkitten>
(the entire thing, that is)
<ashkitten>
i exported all my data not just photos
<waleee-cl>
yikes. GPS-data and the like included?
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<ashkitten>
hm?
<waleee-cl>
well, assuming you use an android phone and/or google-apps that use location
<ashkitten>
oh
<ashkitten>
idk
<ashkitten>
i havent looked at anything else
<jared-w>
There exists a system for accessing a computer securely where you can't ssh into it. You can only upload files through a UI (which are exposed to the system as a magic folder in your homedir). That UI, however, has no concept of version control despite the fact that you can "pull changes" and "push changes" to a mounted folder. If you "push" a file with the same name, the latest push completely overwrites and wins
<jared-w>
however the "push and clobber everyone else's changes" button is right next to the "pull and clobber all my local changes" button. Both are minuscule, tiny, and spelled nearly identically.
<jared-w>
If I were to design a system to make people hate file sharing. I would design this. If I were to design a system that's supposed to store supposedly very sensitive documents