gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<infinisil> samueldr: Well I thought I could hash the hole nix store like that and could use the result for caching with CI
<infinisil> But immediately after running it I thought "Wait, doesn't nix-hash import the path into the store?", and then I panicked
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<samueldr> errr, it might be the late hour messing with me, but am I interpreting the musl libc manual right here?
<samueldr> >> /proc - must be a mount point for Linux procfs or a symlink to such. Several functions such as realpath, fexecve, and a number of the "at" functions added in POSIX 2008 need access to /proc to function correctly.
<samueldr> realpath will not function correctly without /proc mounted?
<samueldr> this... could explain the weirdness with my current issue with my custom init
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<samueldr> sure looks like it, skipping realpath makes it go :/
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<ashkitten> samueldr: is that the same in glibc?
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<samueldr> I'm assuming it isn't since it worked with the same codebase, with glibc
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<samueldr> I haven't checked
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<ashkitten> ah
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<infinisil> There's two kinds of people: The ones starting their sentences with a capital letter and the ones that don't
<infinisil> Very minor difference, but interesting to observe who's in what camp :P
<etu> infinisil: The ones that don't, are those the same people that don't start their own names with captial letters?
<Taneb> not neccessarily
<gchristensen> heh, I do both. For example, I almost always start a message without a capital. Then, subsequent sentences are capitalized.
<__monty__> And then there's the lunactics that double-space their periods. >.>
<etu> I was at the doctors earlier today, he wrote my first name properly but my surname lowercase. I had to pinch myself really hard to not point it out.
<__monty__> Capitalization in names is weird though. Noble names have a non capitalized infix preposition here. Then there's McSomeone, two capitals in one word?
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<yorick> __monty__: Dutch names have the infix capitalized when noble, otherwise uncapitalized
<__monty__> It's the reverse when you cross the border : )
<evanjs> gah. stupid TV messing up my display when switching between framebuffer device and DM
<evanjs> gotta replug the HDMI after it does that -_-
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<pie_[bnc]> can i run ubuntu in a container to get my frickin scanner to work or something
<joepie91> pie_[bnc]: does it not work with xsane?
<pie_[bnc]> it sees the device but if i try to actually scan anything, the the scanner starts up, goes for a bit, then i get no results on the screen
<pie_[bnc]> like its getting canceled half way through or something
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<joepie91> pie_[bnc]: and it works on Windows? because this sounds like a broken controller
<joepie91> (this is how my first canon lide scanner died)
<pie_[bnc]> idk i dont have enough ram to start my vm right now :I
<pie_[bnc]> (sidenote, its an epson l3050)
<pie_[bnc]> luckily printing works
<pie_[bnc]> wish i could serialize firefox to disk
<joepie91> pie_[bnc]: so, the usual checklist: 1) replace cable, 2) reboot both scanner and system with a hard powercycle, 3) check journalctl for USB data errors, 4) check if it works on Windows
<joepie91> IME it's super rare for a scanner to work on one Linux system but not another, when using xsane
<gchristensen> xsane has been really stable for me
<joepie91> so usually either the scanner just isn't correctly supported, or it's a hardware issue
<joepie91> (don't underestimate the cable; a dodgy USB cable is likely to fuck up scans :P)
<pie_[bnc]> 1 should be fine because printing, i havent tried 2 yet because i dont wanna reboot, but i probably gotta
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<joepie91> pie_[bnc]: features can selectively break with a dodgy cable
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<joepie91> anyone who's ever tinkered with ESPs will confirm that, probably :D
<pie_[bnc]> i wasted like two hours on this? dammit. im going to grab my other scanner from the office, i dont have time for this lol
<joepie91> but usually if it's a dodgy cable, you'll see log errors in step 3
<joepie91> not always though
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<pie_[bnc]> maybe virtualbox can compile meanwhile
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<clever> infinisil: ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSKBtEBRWi4 Hacking my arm prosthesis to output CV so that it plugs into my synth: Thought-controlled music!
<eyJhb> Damn it clever, need that h to detect the link :D
<clever> oops, missed a letter!
<eyJhb> I thought CV was like... The thing you send to companies
<eyJhb> Would be pretty cool with a hand printer build in
<LnL> whoa
<ajs124> Ugh. I'm suffering through this train internet connection, but reddit managed to one-up deutsche bahn by just straight up 503ing on me >.<
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<ashkitten> so my gf got a pinetime.. and i'm stealing it to mess around with porting a rust gui lib
<ashkitten> can't do that yet because we haven't set it up to be able to upload code
<ashkitten> and i'm not great with a soldering iron
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<viric> hm did I hit a bug in ls?
<gchristensen> :o
<viric> ls -lc lists newest last. The manual says newest first.
<viric> AH no, with -l, -c sorts by name.
<viric> damn it, how complicated.
<viric> I wanted ls -ltcr, then.
<emily> viric: wow that's terrible
<emily> the interface I mean
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<viric> emily: all has some reason back in time.
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<viric> (I guess)
<emily> probably two implementations meaning different things got merged or something
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