<etu>
I hope something good comes up in that thread
<etu>
Because I have no clue :D
<etu>
I've held presentations about Nix on LUG meetups etc, hard to get something below 30 minutes if you have a bunch of linux people in the room asking questions
<andi->
samueldr: I think One Plus One qualifies as easily unlockable?
<etu>
joepie91: On the question: "Why a custom language?" I tend to mention that nix as a language is quite old by now, and many new languages that people think would be better have shown up quite recently (compared to nix)
<etu>
joepie91: RE your answer in the topic of how to pitch nixos in 5 minutes
<{^_^}>
manveru/bundix#58 (by manveru, 15 minutes ago, open): Major refactor for V3
<aanderse>
manveru: that's great! thank you! did you end up testing against redmine or should i do that?
<manveru>
didn't get time to do that yet, also curious if you can figure out how to use it :)
<manveru>
because i need to write more docs... so any feedback about unclear things would be great
<manveru>
but you can build the new bundix by just doing `nix-build` in the root dir
<aanderse>
nice and easy
<aanderse>
great, thanks
<aanderse>
will try once i get a chance
<manveru>
cool, i'll try it on my own anyway since i'm curious, just have some more $DAYJOB stuff to do first
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<Taneb>
Is there much active work on improving Rust tooling in nixpkgs?
<eyJhb>
Anyone got a idea for a pull down curtain system, that is fixed at the top/bottom? Needs to be on the outside, with the ability to pull up and curl around a bar at the top, and roll out too? - Hoped I could find some nice easy good designs online, but got no clue of what to search for
<eyJhb>
*TuxPaint drawing can be made*
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<samueldr>
thanks talyz and andi- for answering
<samueldr>
hey, eurofriends, what's a popular (your side of the pond) aarch64 android cellphone which's bootloader is handily unlockable?
<samueldr>
looking for something that's more likely to have a broader install base
<samueldr>
andi-: oneplus has a broad~ish install base, at least with geeks in europe?
<samueldr>
though I'm not looking only at phones for geeks, but simply something one is more likely to come across, even if currently not in use
<eyJhb>
samueldr: are you asking for common phones in EU?
<eyJhb>
Or am I not understanding?
<samueldr>
yes
<manveru>
slack totally broken atm... guess i don't have work today :P
<samueldr>
but android phones, with unlockable bootloaders
<eyJhb>
samueldr: OnePlus is generally very popular in Denmark
<eyJhb>
Also most huawei phones. Broadly speaking when talking Android. I don't have any particular phone though
<manveru>
OnePlus is a pretty safe bet in germany/austria as well, afaik
<samueldr>
hm, huawei is off the table into the wastebin; they don't unlock phones anymore
<samueldr>
(sadly)
<eyJhb>
Can't really think of much more, other than the generic Samsung. But now I am just naming all the big brands.. :p
<samueldr>
right, if no one model stands out, it's likely homogenous (or you didn't care :))
<eyJhb>
Like, most phones I see at Uni etc. are OnePlus, iPhone (not in scope) and Huawei.. And the model numbers for them all are kinda a mixed bag.. Especially OnePlus. Seeing as some, e.g. me, are still rocking The OnePlus One. And Huawei is most likely p20/p10
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<NinjaTrappeur>
samueldr, the lineage list of currently supported phones (dark green) https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ might be a good start.
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<samueldr>
NinjaTrappeur: I'm more interested in the install base (anecdotal) stats here :)
<manveru>
good luck getting that :P
<samueldr>
there's already results, got some anecdotal reports from a few users :)
<NinjaTrappeur>
oneplusx here :) Wouldn't recommand it.
<manveru>
i think everything other than samsung and huawai is a rounding error these days :(
<pie_>
does the snappy stuff use selinux or something like that
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<gchristensen>
canonical is all about apparmor iirc
<pie_>
aha
<elvishjerricco>
`nixos-rebuild build-vm; result/bin/run-nixos-vm -nographic` is not producing any output. Hm...
<manveru>
TFW a bisect starts rebuilding rust and llvm...
<gchristensen>
skip! skip! skip!
<manveru>
just trying to find out wtf broke insomnia on 19.03 :P
<manveru>
seems like it's not patchelfd anymore
<manveru>
but it's fine on master... so strange
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<pie_>
So...nixpkgs is basically an expert system database. It's a shame that we can't reason about the rules in it though. Disregarding syntax difficulties, I guess the language is too powerful to reason about anyway....
<pie_>
I wonder if we could compile nix down to something more structured than just raw derivations that *could* be reasoned about though...
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<pie_>
aaand we *do* have a termination requirement sooo that should make things at least somewhat tractable...
<pie_>
Ok, so maybe I would downgrade my judgement to "an expert system database that seems really unwieldy, and I don't know of existing infrastructure for manipulating the rules."
<pie_>
I suppose hnix might be a step in this direction.
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<eyJhb>
Are we talking about nix being AI again?
<pie_>
not reeeeallly
<pie_>
a book does not a brain make
<eyJhb>
but does a brain make a book?
<pie_>
in more ways than one
<pie_>
unrelated, finally put a nix sticker on my laptop. feels good man.
<clever>
elvishjerricco: you dont want to add -nographic, that will break things
<clever>
elvishjerricco: you need to also enable serial console correctly
<clever>
elvishjerricco: add virtualisation.graphics = false; to the configuration.nix, and then it will -nographic for you, and also switch to serial console automatically
<elvishjerricco>
Derp, yea you've corrected me on this exact thing before :P
<clever>
heh
<clever>
elvishjerricco: also, anoyingly, all of those vm options are missing from the docs
<clever>
because build-vm dynamically inserts that module
<elvishjerricco>
Ack. `cannot build on 'ssh-ng://host': cannot open connection to remote store 'ssh-ng://host': unexpected end-of-file`
<elvishjerricco>
Both my user and root can do `ssh host nix-store --help` without any prompting
<clever>
elvishjerricco: strace?
<clever>
elvishjerricco: maybe start by strac'ing the sshd, with -ff, and see what happens
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<pie_>
clever, is there an issue yet for the undocumented stuff? :v
<clever>
pie_: dont think so, i think the solution is to make the whole config = mkIf style apply to qemu-vm.nix
<clever>
pie_: and then always have it present in the nixos config
<pie_>
open an issue so its recorded? xP or is it doing to get fixed sometime regardless
<pie_>
(my librarian is showing...)
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<elvishjerricco>
Well, the problem just randomly went away
<elvishjerricco>
But the copying is extraordinarily slow, even though this is a local virtualbox machine
<elvishjerricco>
Switched from ssh-ng to ssh, and it went from less than 1MiB/s to a proper 70MiB/s
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<gchristensen>
colemickens: any tips on opengl + firefox + wayland?
<gchristensen>
why do I ask such silly questions
<gchristensen>
wait. it isn't silly. it sohuld work afaik
<colemickens>
I probably have too many different variables to give good information right now. libdrm/mesa/firefox-nightly. I'm building nixos-unstable.firefox now to see what happens
<gchristensen>
I'm on stable, fwiw
<gchristensen>
(nixos)
<colemickens>
boo
<colemickens>
okay.
<colemickens>
what device are you on?
<gchristensen>
dell xps 9380
<qyliss>
I have `hardware.opengl.extraPackages = with pkgs; [ libGL ];` in my config
<qyliss>
maybe you need something like that
<gchristensen>
interesting, let's see
<qyliss>
I think I identified that requirement by strace-ing whatever was complaining about missing drivers