<drakonis>
i find that it might be a strong flatpak contender
<pie_>
something something appima- yeah that
<drakonis>
appimage is in the "meh" category right now
<drakonis>
i really want to replace my nix install with the flakes tree right now
<drakonis>
seems like its on a usable state now
<pie_>
well you could always try a vm i guess :D
<drakonis>
there's also a nix-shell replacement now
<drakonis>
nix dev-shell
<drakonis>
life is good.
<drakonis>
i want to use the next release because it does repo management so much better than channels
<drakonis>
i can't actually use lutris because the channel isn't upgrading
<drakonis>
plus it becomes easier to develop
<drakonis>
hoo boy
<pie_>
is lutris actually any good? it seems to mostly only have steam games
<pie_>
and for that you might as well just use steam?
<drakonis>
i'm using it to manage wine
<pie_>
i mean idk, i only tried to package it once or something
<drakonis>
not steam games
<pie_>
ah. didnt know it manages wine
<pie_>
(which is how i ended up working on winnix originally)
<drakonis>
to be fair, i'd still like having something to manage wine with nix
<drakonis>
lutris is kinda nice but most of it, is extraneous on nix
<drakonis>
the emulator stuff for instance
<drakonis>
ah i have figured out how to replace 2.2 with 2.3(?)
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<drakonis>
okay wine is heckin broke on lutris
<drakonis>
goddamn.
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<lejonet>
etu: real life happened :P sure, what me and srhb came up with is enough to solve the problem _this_ time, but we were investigating the "nice solution" but then real life hit
<srhb>
lejonet: etu: fwiw I know that johanot/adamt need to look at it very soon. I'll be sure to assist.
<srhb>
Plus getting the 14 upgrade in.
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<srhb>
With any luck the py3 build is less crazy and also the py3 interpreter might be.. Less insane :-)
<lejonet>
srhb: yeah, I think that if we can crack the embedded interprenter thing and py3, in the future, version bumps will be just version bumps :)
<srhb>
Hopefully yes.
<srhb>
Also darn real life :)
<srhb>
Looks like I'm spoken for for most of the summer q_q
<eyJhb>
Damn, srhb is alive
<srhb>
Yeah, sorry for my absence recently.. :-P
<eyJhb>
Too much work?
<srhb>
Yeah, afraid so..
<lejonet>
srhb: at least solving the embedded interprenter thing would mean that we could let the PR go through and work on py3 and 14 after that
<eyJhb>
Just tell your boss that he can do his own god damn work! ;)
<srhb>
lejonet: Yes. Though it might be easier to fix in 14. Might be worth checking out.
<srhb>
eyJhb: Hah, yes! Seems he's crazy busy too though...
<lejonet>
srhb: I haven't looked at 14 at all, might have to do that then
<srhb>
Looked like another semi-major round of refactoring of the mgr stuff at least
<srhb>
lejonet: Worryingly most conf is now some sort of centralized database among the daemons.
<srhb>
lejonet: So, we might lose some declarativeness.
<MichaelRaskin>
Oh right, coordination rethinking debt is something every large organisation has…
<lejonet>
srhb: well, technically, the conf has always been with the mon daemons, and run-time changes has been enforced by them
<lejonet>
srhb: but if they start to insist that the initial conf can't be a text file anymore, that will indeed cause problems
<lejonet>
srhb: if everything goes as I think it will, I will probably order a new ceph node this month, leaving us more room to experiment on actual hardware
<srhb>
lejonet: I don't think it will be too bad even so, we can just fake the textual conf via a smart-ish systemd job.
<lejonet>
srhb: yeah, some fancy script that does the conf instead of it taking the conf from a file
<eyJhb>
srhb what company do you work for again?
<eyJhb>
btw. no more fun with the CTF challenge guys, it was just taken down today :(
<srhb>
Aw, how come?
<srhb>
eyJhb: DMI
<srhb>
Cue the weather jokes.
<eyJhb>
Postevent phase of the CTF was over... :/ But the challenge is still available at Gitlab! So basically `docker run --rm -it -p 8080:5000 registry.gitlab.com/deviosec/challenges/aarhusctf2019/web-awesome-calculator:latest` :D
<eyJhb>
I REALLY REALLY would like to make some wather jokes, but I've NONE... And I usally don't check the weather, since it is 99.9% sure it will rain or snow in Aalborg. Like. All.. The.. Time..
<srhb>
xD
<srhb>
I'm pretty sure that's untrue, but what do I know, I'm only an IT person :P
<MichaelRaskin>
When I were in Aarhus for a bit more than a year, it was better. But if it does rain, there is a question will it also be windy or very windy, which affects usefulness of umbrellas…
<eyJhb>
Okay, like.. 50% of the time... The one certain thing in Aalborg though, if you visit "Kildeparken" aka. "*insertnotverynicewordhere Park", some weird song will always play, and it is VERY VERY CREEPY at 1 am..
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin true... Generally never use a umbrella.. Most of the time it is uselss
<eyJhb>
Were you from Denmark too?
<MichaelRaskin>
Nope, I just was a postdoc in Aarhus University at some point
<eyJhb>
Oh.. Were you a part of my "guess what the logo looks like" competetion btw.?
<MichaelRaskin>
No…
<eyJhb>
You missed something glorious then. What were you doing as postdoc?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, a bit of algorithms, a bit of game theory, a bit of crypto
<lejonet>
srhb: from what I can read from the documentation, they are standing fast with the text confs :)
<eyJhb>
Game theory? - I know they quite enjoy crypto and algo..
<srhb>
lejonet: Good!
<lejonet>
srhb: The MONs are the gatekeepers of the conf, which is why all other daemons technically only need to know the IPs/hostnames of all the mons to fetch their conf
<lejonet>
Yeah, seems like they are still going to adhere to the "text confs is the actual conf, but you can change it during runtime with ceph config, and it'll be propagated"
<MichaelRaskin>
eyJhb: well, a few people there sometimes look into random topics on the edge of Maths and CS
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<lejonet>
So testing different confs isn't a big pita, and you can always restore "actual" conf by just restarting the mons
<eyJhb>
Sounds about right. The Aarhus CTF thing was in collaboration with Computer Science at AU.. We had sooooo much crypto....
<eyJhb>
But why Denmark btw.?
<lejonet>
srhb: a nice thing with the dashboard, they've abstracted it to its own package now, with 14.2, which will make it much easier to handle probably :)
<MichaelRaskin>
Random connections; given that out of all my postdoc applications I have approximately 100% interview success rate and 0% cold-submission success rate… and it is definitely a nice place and a few nice teams.
<__monty__>
eyJhb: The logo was obviously a cap that had fallen upside down. You know, one of those ridiculous ones because someone had bent the flap up?
<eyJhb>
Fair, normally from.. US? - __monty__ you know what it is! :p
<eyJhb>
Btw. does anybody know of a nice small, foldable, bluetooth keyboard? Wanting something I can use with Termux on Android
<MichaelRaskin>
I wonder how many nontrivial nontransparent gotchas are there in GitHub sponsorship platform (to avoid becoming competition to other money laundering mechanisms, which would be against the law)
<aanderse>
MichaelRaskin: yeah i'm sure there is a load they aren't saying... because at face value the gaming that could happen there is through the roof
<MichaelRaskin>
It is possible that they are going to run these restrictions honestly, though — in the sense that either the sender doesn't get charged or the receiver can withdraw within a month or a real court order happens and get shown to both sides (in contrast to PayPal; matching funds refused for arbitrary reasons doesn't qualify for dishonesty)
<MichaelRaskin>
But there is no evidence so far in either direction, of course
<gchristensen>
pacmd load-module module-remap-sink sink_name=mono master=alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo channels=2 channel_map=mono,mono <- force audio streams to be mono for those poorly recorded conference talks
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<samueldr>
also good for those with bad stereo hearing I guess
<pie_>
oh no what is this <lejonet> srhb: but if they start to insist that the initial conf can't be a text file anymore, that will indeed cause problems
<pie_>
eyJhb, aw, guess i cant keep messing wit FUSE, too lazy to set it up locally :
<pie_>
* :P
<pie_>
andi-, what would it take to get a nixcon website up
<andi->
pie_: it is WIP...
<andi->
or in other words: SOOON(tm)
<pie_>
would it be ok to preliminatily just get a shitty html only page up? :P :D
<pie_>
trolling: just point everyone to a git repo with a document in it
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<eyJhb>
pie_ well... Isn't it somewhat the same, as when using github pages?
<pie_>
eyjhb, now that you mention it
<eyJhb>
Understood the joke, but soon realised... It.. It is the same concept. That is also where my own blog is used :p
<eyJhb>
But considering switching it to Gitlab
<MichaelRaskin>
I should actually find out where in Munich Mayflower is located…
* samueldr
wonders if it's in Munich
<samueldr>
;)
<MichaelRaskin>
Depends on which Mayflower, sure
<samueldr>
oh, I had misread your sentence and skipped over "in" of "where in"
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, as I work in TU Munich now, I probably should at some point try to to meet some of the Nixers in Munich in person…
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin are there many?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, a lot of Nixpkgs committers seem to be associated with Mayflower.de, and many of them also put Munich in location…
<eyJhb>
Yeah okay.. I only remember srhb as being Danish, and like two others, but can't remember their names... And then one guy from Uni who presented me to it
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin out and get some beers!
<MichaelRaskin>
There is a catch: I don't drink beer
<eyJhb>
MichaelRaskin: out and get some vodka!
<MichaelRaskin>
That would be stereotypically fitting, but…
<eyJhb>
Russian?
<MichaelRaskin>
When I worked in Bordeaux, I said that stereotypically a person from Russia, namely Moscow, who is half-programmer and half-mathematician and works in Bordeaux would be expected to drink at least _one_ of vodka, tea, beer, coffee, or wine — but…
<eyJhb>
vodka+beer => the start of a good night, and a bad tomorrow
<MichaelRaskin>
I think in Belgium they sell this pre-mixed
<MichaelRaskin>
Under a fitting name «Delirium tremens»
<eyJhb>
Never had it anywhere, except when I mix myself.. But that might be because I generally only drink beer...
<eyJhb>
No princess drinks normally
<MichaelRaskin>
In the receipt it is shown as a beer, but no really, I think it has a 10% vol. version
<eyJhb>
As long as it's cheap
<MichaelRaskin>
I am not sure if sparkling mineral water is actually my favourite beverage; or whether I like tonic water more, just not enough to justify the difference.
<eyJhb>
That sounds very very much like non-alcohol?
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<MichaelRaskin>
Indeed
<MichaelRaskin>
My estimate is that I don't enjoy the taste of anything above ~1% alcohol
<etu>
That seems like me
<__monty__>
MichaelRaskin: Since you like tonic. Do you like gin & tonic?
<MichaelRaskin>
Nope.
<__monty__>
Maybe you haven't had a good one? Most add too much gin.
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, if you satisfy the requirement that the resulting mix has less than 1% alcohol…
<MichaelRaskin>
The limit case of gin&tonic being pure tonic being indeed good…