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<pie_>
(manveru, sidenote, linked page seems to say ubuntu wont be dropping 32 but support completely after all)
<pie_>
aaaand the later part of the post seems to address that
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<eyJhb>
Anybody have experience with setting up a local Gitlab CE from source?
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<gchristensen>
I wonder how long it takes fastmail to import 1.1M messages
<eyJhb>
gchristensen: read that as 1.1MB message to start with :p
<eyJhb>
What is the progress?
<eyJhb>
Currently running Docker, so that I can run Vagrant so that I can run Docker. Docker in Docker. IT is great!
<gchristensen>
the progress is reported as "In progress"
<eyJhb>
How much do you feel like it has imported then? ;)
<gchristensen>
when the wind blows, it feels like all of it and none of it somehow. when the sun is hot, it feels there is still millions more. when in a shadow, I feel like it is already complete
<andi->
I am curious to hear how happy you'll be with fastmail :-)
<gchristensen>
have you used it?
<andi->
no
<andi->
I have looked at many providers years ago and then decided to run yet another mailserver instead.
<gchristensen>
I have a very, very hard time deciding I want to do that
<andi->
Most offerings either lack enough space (have about ~120GB right now) or they lack enough aliases or enough (sub)domains and multi-user support...
<gchristensen>
ah
<gchristensen>
my least favorite thing to do with mail is receive it
<gchristensen>
oh, and send it
<andi->
read?
<gchristensen>
oh man okay yeah that is even worse than receiving
<andi->
do you enjoy writing mails?
<gchristensen>
sometimes
<andi->
deleting mails is my favorite mail related activity ;-)
<gchristensen>
yes that one is good
<gchristensen>
but deciding to delete? less fun
<andi->
<shift>-T .+ ;D$y
<andi->
or just having notmuch tag all new mails as deleted and then they will vanish on the next sync ;-)
<gchristensen>
lol
<andi->
an INBOX ringbuffer without a size limit but they can only be received once
<gchristensen>
lol yes
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<gchristensen>
samueldr: the ninish background + terminal BG of #000000 and an opacity of 0.9 is really nice
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<kisik21>
How was Nix built before Nix? When exactly did Nix start being self-hosting?
<gchristensen>
it was built with ./configure and make
<gchristensen>
Nix was used to build Nix before 2008
<kisik21>
wow
<kisik21>
old times
<kisik21>
I mean, I wasn't even into Linux back then
<kisik21>
I was a Windows person at that time
<kisik21>
(didn't know where to get Linux)
<gchristensen>
that was when release.nix was added to the nix repository. before then, the release.nix lived in a separate repository, I'm not sure where that code is -- if it exists at all
<kisik21>
I'm not technically cross-compiling though
<kisik21>
Technically it's all native but emulated
<kisik21>
that's why it's so slow
<samueldr>
might be faster to cross-compile, and then bootstrap on hardware, depending on your hardware's oopmh
<samueldr>
oomph*
<kisik21>
RPi2
<kisik21>
no swap
<manveru>
aanderse: i think i finally got that damn bundler under control :)
<samueldr>
I was thinking more about the other computer doing the build :)
<samueldr>
qemu can be terribly slow
<aanderse>
manveru: yeah? :D
<kisik21>
I'm building nixUnstable. if I do, I could upload it to vika.cachix.org and propagate it to various PCs and make a buildfarm - half qemu, half native
<manveru>
haven't tried with redmine... but in my tests it works :)
<aanderse>
manveru: i'm glad to hear that! looking forward to trying it out
<ashkitten>
kisik21: ha, it's weird *not* being the youngest person in a room anymore
<kisik21>
may I ask how old are you?
<ashkitten>
19 or so
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<vika>
I think I'll need to change my nickname on freenode since I'm transitioning my machines to use my name instead of that silly nickname I used when I was... i don't remember how old I was
<gchristensen>
eh, the internet is for fun names.
<infinisil>
Aww yeah
<ashkitten>
i wish i had a better nick
<vika>
Ohhhhh it's speeding up, already 3 packages built and 2 more on the pipeline =)
<infinisil>
vika: I recommend using a nickname that will be available wherever you sign up
<vika>
infinisil: what do you mean?
<vika>
I have kisik21 registered on freenode already
<vika>
may I somehow do something to be vika?
<vika>
>.<
<vika>
this is so complex
<infinisil>
vika: I mean for other sites
<manveru>
aanderse: well, the tricky part is still the database thingy... in theory we could just put in a config/databases.yml in nixpkgs and it'll work right, are you fine with that?
<vika>
infinisil: you don't need other sites when you got your own! Why do you think I'm struggling with NixOS for RPi2?
<manveru>
aanderse: otherwise there's no way other than teaching bundix to apply patches or modifying it manually everytime
<aanderse>
manveru: i'm totally fine with that
<manveru>
cool
<vika>
I so want an RPi4
<vika>
does anyone here have it already? can it run NixOS?
<manveru>
i'll try to make a branch to experiment with :)
<vika>
I know RPi3 can
<gchristensen>
rpi4 with 4gb of ram is shockingly reasonable looking
<manveru>
and i just bought two rpi3 :P
<vika>
Yeaaaaaa! I want one but AliExpress doesn't have them yet
<aanderse>
manveru: great, thanks!
<gchristensen>
and apparently it will support 8g of ram at some point
<samueldr>
"it's a typo"
<samueldr>
so "no", until they do
<samueldr>
:)
<vika>
8G of RAM? I could build Chromium right on that beast
<vika>
it already runs Chromium
<gchristensen>
samueldr: womp womp
<samueldr>
tried to get an rpi4, the shops are all sold out
<samueldr>
so I guess I won't have one
<vika>
samueldr: I'm waiting until winter when AliExpress sellers get their hands on these little cutie pies
<vika>
it should appear pretty fast, I think
<vika>
but the demand will probably be shocking
<vika>
(not for the 4G model though, it's expensive)
<samueldr>
as far as running, nixos might be runnable with the downstream kernel as 32 bit reasonably easily...
<samueldr>
... but upstream kernel will need to be implemented
<samueldr>
(and 64 bit using downstream kernel is a wild guess)
<samueldr>
then, there's u-boot that we need for the usual image
<vika>
64 bit with downstream kernel means no drivers for GPU
<vika>
at least that's why they won't make Raspbian 64-bit
<vika>
VideoCore GPUs are all 32bit AFAIK
<samueldr>
I don't know about that exactly, but it's more about the existing userland IIRC
<vika>
but RPi3 is running in pure 64-bit mode on NixOS, right?
<samueldr>
you can share one build for rpi2~3B+, so why not go for 4 too
<samueldr>
yes
<vika>
Cool!
<samueldr>
with the upstream kernel
<vika>
Cool x2
<samueldr>
if I could get my hand on a rpi2 with the new broadcom chip, those are likely to work as 64 bit too
<vika>
They do
<samueldr>
(there is a late rpi2 variant which has the same cpu as the rpi3)
<samueldr>
I mean: verifiably work :)
<vika>
They're basically RPi3 minus WiFi
<vika>
and who needs WiFi on a server
<vika>
well I do
<samueldr>
you
<vika>
I had a wi-fi chip sticked in the USB port of my RPi 2 for a long time
<vika>
it saved my life several times and once drained my mobile data
<vika>
or better say my parents' mobile data
<vika>
because it was mom who was sharing Wi-Fi at that moment
<vika>
we were switching every two weeks because we were out of town and we had strict data caps
<vika>
and well, my RPi accidentally connected to her AP and started seeding torrents
<vika>
several gigabytes wasted
<gchristensen>
whoops
<vika>
that's why you don't put Wi-Fi passwords for data-capped APs into your headless machines
<vika>
Ohhh that's actually a pretty old story
<vika>
because today I have a tethering restriction, 3GB per month (and everything else is unlimited). My home router has OpenWRT and OpenVPN set up though, so I use some hacks to circumvent that restriction
<vika>
I hope nobody here's working for my mobile carrier :D
<gchristensen>
we do have some people in telecoms, but I doubt they'd be concerned
<vika>
well, I'm Russian
<vika>
so I doubt someone works for my mobile carrier here
<gchristensen>
no idea :)
<vika>
that means I'm safe!
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<elvishjerricco>
My power went out at home. I’m away until sunday. So my desktop went down... the one that needs a password to boot. I SSH into that thing for programming quite often
<gchristensen>
ups
<gchristensen>
"oops" I meant to say, but also a UPS would help
<elvishjerricco>
gchristensen: power was out for a few hours so I don’t think it would have :P
<gchristensen>
:P
<gchristensen>
I suppose you're not in the market for a big ol' diesel generator
<elvishjerricco>
I do have a roommate there, but I don’t want to tell him the password
<gchristensen>
good choice
<vika>
so. nix build nixpkgs.nixUnstable --system armv7l-linux --builders "ssh://nixos-builder armv7l-linux" --max-jobs 4 is gonna use 4 cores of my PC and also nixos-builder machine in the local network, am I right?
<elvishjerricco>
I also have a binary keyfile though (used for boot shenanigans). I could macgyver a USB image that would boot, use that key to unlock the disk, and boot the system, and then rotate that key.
<vika>
oops wrong channel :3
<elvishjerricco>
Orrrrrr I could just spin up a modest instance on a cloud provider for the weekend.
<vika>
I think my build is getting bottlenecked by gettext which seems to be required by everything nowadays
<vika>
It only builds gettext on the remote builder and my notebook is staying unused and cold as ice
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<vika>
bugs.python.org seems to be unavailable from Russia. What's up?!
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<gchristensen>
I guess somebody there said something Russia doesn't like
<vika>
gchristensen: the host just drops connections...
<vika>
even before I send something
<vika>
it's so weird and looks like a misconfiguration
<vika>
but the bug tracker is offline
<vika>
it's inaccessibl
<vika>
:3
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<clever>
then the activation logic needs a tweak, to deal with chroots (or maybe just nixos-install --system?)
<clever>
and your done, the 1st generation is exactly your deployment, and zero overhead from the AMI bootstrap
<clever>
gchristensen: and the place where plugins come in, is that you could have a plugin that takes an ubuntu/rescue shell, and then converts it to a nixos installer shell
<clever>
but aws can skip that, and go directly to a nixos installer AMI
<clever>
and then, any backend can follow that phase up, with a remote install plugin, that takes a nixos installer shell, and copies the 1st generation over, while formatting disks