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<Shados>
gchristensen: yeah I have a referral code if you want
<Ralith>
gchristensen: I'm happy with my fastmail account also
<Ralith>
very no-nonsense, feels good to be a customer rather than a product
<Ralith>
good docs, wiring it up to my domain name was easy
<Shados>
o.0 they launched a new logo
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<eyJhb>
joepie91: *sigh* someone else requested the pricing feature :p
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<ashkitten>
i want so badly to have something to do with my 250 gig ssd but the only thing it's doing right now is a boot partition and swap
<ashkitten>
all my data is on mirrored spinning disks with zfs log and special vdevs as partitions on a pair of 128gb ssds
<ashkitten>
i'd put l2arc on my other ssd since it doesnt require redundancy but it would be completely useless since i have 32 gigs of ram and the arc never even gets to 10 gigs
<__monty__>
Run a blockchain? That'll hit your disk pretty hard : >
<ashkitten>
i dont even know how to acknowledge that
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<joepie91>
eyJhb: hahaha, now you're stuck with it :P
<etu>
eyJhb: You made a monster!
<joepie91>
eyJhb: also, allow me to repeat this: [12:22] <joepie91> eyJhb: you know how this goes, right - in 3 years, you'll be running the dominant student rental site in Denmark
<joepie91>
:P
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<sphalerite>
ashkitten: use it as /tmp?
<manveru>
ashkitten: there's always filecoin :P
<eyJhb>
joepie91: pretty much! I just had a meeting with HR. She actually had a contact with the ones at AKU-Aalborg, and think I should contact them regarding it..
<eyJhb>
Plus the student community FB Page want to promote it...
<joepie91>
lol
<joepie91>
congrats :P
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<eyJhb>
Now for the moneygrab!
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<joepie91>
lol
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<qyliss>
re: the git thing from last night, I feel like it's a little disingenuous to say "this was a lot of work to upstream a single patch" when almost all the work was fixing a server misconfiguration
<qyliss>
In the same way, setting up a GitHub account is "a lot of work to upstream a single patch". It's something you set up once.
<gchristensen>
setting up a github account is "a lot of" trivial work which doesn't require research and diagnonsis
<qyliss>
neither does git-send-email if your distro hasn't broken it
<gchristensen>
okay
<qyliss>
Works fine in NixOS! :P
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<qyliss>
(assuming you remember to use gitFull and not git, which isn't great...)
<qyliss>
. o O ( would be nice to stub out the git commands that aren't implemented in the normal git package telling users which package to install instead )
<etu>
qyliss: I like that idea
<qyliss>
I shall make it happen
<qyliss>
Oh, has somebody done this already?
<qyliss>
There's a thing in the package to detect unsupported commands, but it looks like it just rms them.
<{^_^}>
#1751 (by jameshfisher, 5 years ago, closed): Which package provides file "foo"
<qyliss>
Would have to wrap git
<qyliss>
Or patch it
<qyliss>
Probably not worth it :(
<eyJhb>
srhb: how is the seagull situation at you?
<qyliss>
wrapping wouldn't work well because you'd have to parse out options
<sphalerite>
eyJhb: is there some sort of danish seagull plague I haven't heard of yet? x)
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<eyJhb>
sphalerite: seagull plague yeah, don't know if it localised to Denmark, but they have started nesting... And SCREAMING... They started at around 03.30 AM, and haven't stopped since (4 PM)....
<eyJhb>
And some idiot seagull bird has a nested on the rooftop of where I live, and basically tried to attack me when I tried entering my apartment
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<srhb>
eyJhb: lol, I didn't realize that was a thing
<srhb>
I live on Nørrebrogade in Cph, so every morning we do get some seagulls scrounging trash before the sweepers arrive, but it's not horrible, and it's a thing throughout most of the year. I'm too far from the harbour for it to be a permanent hassle though :P
<sphalerite>
eyJhb: ooh yeah. So basically just seagulls being seagulls :p
<eyJhb>
srhb: I live 20-30 minutes from the nearest harbor, and it is still a problem. I have NO clue what they are doing here... :/ They are a annoyance most of the year, but especially now :/
<eyJhb>
I have proposed just shooting them... If anybody wants some target practice, just come to Aalborg
<sphalerite>
eyJhb: I used to live near a pet food factory, far from any coast. Seagulls all the time.
<sphalerite>
Glasgow also has seagulls, it's a bit closer to the sea though#
<gchristensen>
..joy
<eyJhb>
sphalerite: My theory is, old ladies who thing they are sweet and feeding them...
<eyJhb>
Seen it multiple times. Whole loafs of bread
<sphalerite>
>_<
<eyJhb>
I think I should aim my fictional shotgun against them instead
<sphalerite>
that might not be such a good idea. Maybe talk to them and ask them nicely not to encourage the pests though :)
<joepie91>
31.4C inside
<joepie91>
heat can be over now kthx
<eyJhb>
sphalerite: joykill :(
<sphalerite>
joepie91: weather: .oO(LOL PRANKED)
<joepie91>
:(
<cransom>
if anything, you could tell them that they are killing them. you teach them to be dependant on you, but more so, bread has 0 nutritional value and they get all sorts of medical problems eating junk food all the time.
<srhb>
For a dying and malnutritioned species they seem to be doing quite well. xD
<cransom>
yeah, it's curious how much longer humans have, for sure.
<gchristensen>
LOL
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<sphalerite>
hah
<joepie91>
lol
<joepie91>
that seems bash.org-worthy
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<colemickens>
had a eurail pass for 5 days and we've been through 4 countries? definitely in a callibration phase, lol
<gchristensen>
yeah that happens to the best of us
<eyJhb>
Ohh there are some golden ones in the top, and waaay too many which seems staged
<eyJhb>
`<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.`, thoughts?
<srhb>
My IRC client has way better keybindings.
<srhb>
But considering how long that's been up there it's probably from the mIRC days. I wonder if that is still a thing.
<srhb>
aaaah, the 90s...
<srhb>
(Not really, it was a horrible time!)
<eyJhb>
mIRC? I think many still use that.... :p Well.. I don't remember much from it.. :p
<eyJhb>
But sad there are no dates..
<joepie91>
most recent mIRC release was 4 months ago
<joepie91>
so :P
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<eyJhb>
Is secound hand bashing on programming languages OK?
<gchristensen>
probably shouldn't
<eyJhb>
:( But I found a good Java one on bash.org
<cransom>
there's a smart lightbulb in my ssid list that i'm pretty sure is mine (its not a common commercial ssid), but again, no idea where it's plugged in.
<lassulus>
reminds me of: <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
<lassulus>
from the old bash.org?top
<cransom>
that was more impressive before wifi became prevalent.
<gchristensen>
I've lost a rpi in my rats nest of my networking hovel
<gchristensen>
(wired)
<eyJhb>
lassulus: the one I just linked? :p
<lassulus>
nobody reads more than 3 lines of history in this channel! :D
<gchristensen>
I can't believe how big 15" laptops are. I totally forgot.
<lassulus>
15
<lassulus>
ups
<srhb>
mmm, bisecting systemd is fun...
<srhb>
At least the build isn't horribly slow.
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<eyJhb>
srhb: I still have nightmares about last bisect
<srhb>
Well, that one was admittedly worse than what I'm doing :-P
<srhb>
The only slightly uncomfortable thing is that I have to apply a patch for each step, and I haven't managed to make one that applies cleanly across the all of the bisect range.
<srhb>
WTB AI for patches.
<qyliss>
For that, I usually rebase the bisect range onto my patch
<srhb>
qyliss: ... wow
<qyliss>
works very well
<srhb>
I hadn't thought of that. Thank you. I feel stupid now :)
<qyliss>
as far as I can tell, nobody else ever has either :)
<srhb>
xD
<qyliss>
sometimes a rebase is annoying, so I cherry-pick the range instead
<srhb>
Makes total sense. Thanks again!
<qyliss>
it flattens merges though
<srhb>
Of course, now I have roughly 1 step left xD
<srhb>
Lesson to be learned: Complain early and often!
<eyJhb>
srhb: Like, for every step everything had to be rebuild almost.. God how I hate inkscape now... SOmehow, something, required inkscape, and I have no clue. I disabled almost everything I could in my conf
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<srhb>
Ouch :P
<qyliss>
a font?
<qyliss>
(nix-store -q --tree /run/current-system could tell you)
<srhb>
Probably needs a -qd in there first? Assuming it's not actually a runtime dep... Though, I suppose. :P
<eyJhb>
Trying to put the whole tragic event behind me :( That is basically why I wanted to do `somecommand tellmethis inkscape`
<gchristensen>
any rabbitmq fans 'round?
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<pie_>
joepie91, hoping that i finally have some time since im on vacation this week to work on the rfc stuff again,
<pie_>
somewhat related: what should "interfaces" look like for nix?
<pie_>
its basically going to come down to convention from what im looking at currently, but thats one of the underlying concepts with what im doing i guess
<samueldr>
pie_: maybe first inventory the existing interfaces?
<samueldr>
often you work on a subject, which is either a path (contains a slash) or an attribute name
<samueldr>
ideally those should stay consistent in other commands
<samueldr>
so... you weren't talking about `nix` the command? :)
<pie_>
no
<pie_>
xD
<pie_>
the "interface" here is {root :: Drv, withPackages :: scope:AttrSet -> root:Drv -> selector:(Set -> List) -> AttrSetDrv }
<gchristensen>
this is starting to look like XML
<gchristensen>
"scope" and "selectors" and "roots"
<pie_>
gchristensen, oh no i hope not
<pie_>
xD
<pie_>
i hate this
<pie_>
why did you say that
<pie_>
th underlying concept is treees ok!
<gchristensen>
I'm just saying XSLT is an interesting idea
<pie_>
or something, also selectors existed separately, its just g = f: f scope
<pie_>
XD
<pie_>
[internal screaming]
<pie_>
where f is (args: with args; [ some stuff ])
<pie_>
i think the problem with xml might be that people think its data but with DTDs its actually programs, and xml is a pain in the ass programming language_
<pie_>
?
<pie_>
the only reason i know anything about xml is because of one google ctf challenge </derali>
<gchristensen>
DTDs is just structural definitions. XSLT makes it a language
<pie_>
*derail
<pie_>
idk man are you sure DTDs arent turing complete
* pie_
mumbles something about external entities
<gchristensen>
"The notion of Turing-completeness does not apply to languages such as XML, HTML, JSON, YAML and S-expressions, because they are typically used to represent structured data, not describe computation."
<pie_>
uhuh.
<pie_>
typically.
<pie_>
well anyway i dont actually have any real reason to hate on xml other than its probably a security nightmare
<gchristensen>
not sure it is good to hate on it because of a "probably"
<gchristensen>
at least XML doesn't have YAML's "arbitrary code execution" feature
<pie_>
are you sure
<gchristensen>
are you?
<pie_>
no
<gchristensen>
ok
<pie_>
notationwise, not really sure why its better than sexpressions
<gchristensen>
sure
<pie_>
ugh, this isnt something i want to bikeshed right now actually
<gchristensen>
namespaces are cool actually
<pie_>
yeah?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<Ralith>
YAML's what now
<gchristensen>
being able to combine 2 different data types' data in the same document
<Ralith>
also: something something no file-format bashing
<samueldr>
>> YAML tags are used to associate meta information with each node. In particular, each tag must specify the expected node kind (scalar, sequence, or mapping). Scalar tags must also provide a mechanism for converting formatted content to a canonical form for supporting equality testing. Furthermore, a tag may provide additional information such as the set of allowed content values for validation, a mechanism for tag resolution, or any other
<samueldr>
data that is applicable to all of the tag’s nodes.
<samueldr>
>> YAML tags are used to associate meta information with each node. In particular, each tag must specify the expected node kind (scalar, sequence, or mapping). Scalar tags must also provide a mechanism for converting formatted content to a canonical form for supporting equality testing. Furthermore, a tag may provide additional information such as the set of allowed content values for validation, a mechanism for tag resolution, or any other
<samueldr>
data that is applicable to all of the tag’s nodes.
* samueldr
taps microphone
<samueldr>
sorry, my client wasn't receiving anymore, so I didn't get a back echo