gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<gchristensen> joepie91: hilarious
<sir_guy_carleton> has there ever been a time when yahoo wasn't a failure? i can hardly remember ...
<gchristensen> yes
<joepie91> it was briefly revered during the geocities era
<joepie91> and then promptly jumped off a cliff
<gchristensen> they couldn't help but muck up tumblr
<jackdk> when I was younger, and the school internet was terrible, I remember manually typing search.yahoo.com/search?p= and urlencoding my query on the fly, because that was a significant optimisation
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<joepie91> gchristensen: yahoo dived off a cliff well before tumblr :P
<joepie91> I think even their archiveteam watchlist entry predates it
dmc is now known as gehidore
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<gchristensen> of course
<gchristensen> but they bought tumblr hoping for some relevance and then mucked it up
<joepie91> for the win10 users among us: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuTl9lZW0AAiABr.jpg:large
<joepie91> hatemail to /dev/null please :P
<elvishjerricco> Time to dive into VFIO...
<elvishjerricco> Gotta get that PCI passthrough for gaming on ZFS :P
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<jackdk> joepie91 that is totally unacceptable. How even does a UI toolkit do that/
<gchristensen> joepie91: good thing I don't have problems like that
<joepie91> jackdk: great question! no clue :P
* joepie91 looks at the "Inc." on gchristensen's screenshot
<joepie91> idontbelieveyou.gif
<gchristensen> perfectly and properly reflowed!
<jackdk> I imagine the layout thing is not grid-based, but is instead several hboxes inside a vbox or something, so they're each deciding their own layout
<jackdk> I don't actually do much gui programming so I'm spitballing
<Ralith> or it is grid-based but they're using tons of padding instead of centering things properly and some of the graphemes are too large to fit
<gchristensen> wouldn't the grid then line up properly, but not evenly?
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<elvishjerricco> `Kernel driver in use: vfio-pci`
<elvishjerricco> =D
<elvishjerricco> So glad SSH started properly. This is my boot GPU :P
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<gchristensen> I recently switched from zsh to bash, and I miss the behavior of zsh's histories being cross-shell: running `command` it termA and then Ctrl-R `com` will auto-suggest command right away, without closing the terminal. with Bash, I have to close the terminal befor ethe history is shared. any tips on improving this?
<qyliss> From zsh to bash? What was your motivation?
<qyliss> I’ve never heard of anybody going that direction!
<gchristensen> I used zsh but used no features of it
<gchristensen> other than this one :P
<qyliss> fair enough
<LnL> isn't there a way to configure that in bash?
<gchristensen> I assume so :)
<gchristensen> the other thing qyliss is I'm in zsh just long enough to `cd ./my/project; nix-shell` and then I'm in bash again
<__monty__> gchristensen: Please switch to fish instead. Fish needs some nix lovin'. ; )
<__monty__> exec zsh is not that much more typing though : p
<__monty__> I usually do `load-env-writing fish` for example.
<mdash> wouldn't it be nice if nix-shell used $SHELL
<gchristensen> yeah... true but the real message I think is I don't actually care about zsh :)
<samueldr> gchristensen: xslt based shell?
<LnL> I also don't use zsh "features", but there's a bunch of small stuff like this that I like enough to make it my default shell
<gchristensen> samueldr: now we're talkin'
<gchristensen> <xsl:template match="./projects"><nix:shell src="[@shell.nix]" /></xsl:template> ... efficient!
<LnL> also, I can completions for zsh myself if I'm motivated enough
<gchristensen> samueldr: do you know about this nightmare? https://sourceforge.net/projects/gridxslt/
<__monty__> mdash: Or we should get a new nix-dev or something. As nix-shell is supposed to mimic the build environment nix uses when evaluating expression iiuc?
<samueldr> some could argue that using xml is dumb since you need to close the tag to finish your command, but you know what I'll say? \
<gchristensen> semantically correct is the best kind of correct?
<LnL> but it stays close enough to bash so I'm not bothered by incompatibilities, I would never be able to use something like fish
<samueldr> gchristensen: not sure why "nightmare"? probably the reasons to implement such a thing are the nightmare?
<gchristensen> writing a distributed compute platform and job in XML doesn't seem like a nice dream, I think :)
<__monty__> LnL: It's really not that big a difference. You don't script in fish so it doesn't apply to that at all.
<samueldr> gchristensen: with the few details it's hard to know for sure what it's used for, but I thought it was to distribute the XSLT manipulation task, so e.g. a big XML document worked on by multiple nodes?
<LnL> I script in my repl regularly so it does
<LnL> not being able to source setup.sh already annoys me
<LnL> gchristensen: oh the fzf history thing is supported for bash IIRC, if you like that kind of thing
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<samueldr> much saner than bash's expansion rules
<gchristensen> LOL
<LnL> -_-
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<srhb> What... is that?
* srhb reads up
<gchristensen> srhb: a joke :D
<samueldr> it's fresh bait
<gchristensen> haha
<srhb> Cruel :P
<gchristensen> at least you won't have ambiguous parseproblems
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<joepie91> I might have just come up with the weirdest design for invalidly-filled-out form fields: https://i.imgur.com/6i04ECO.png
<gchristensen> oh my
<joepie91> I *think* it ticks all the accessibility boxes though
<samueldr> joepie91: looks appropriate
<emily> the extending red border only on the left really looks like a weird graphical glitch.
<samueldr> then fix yer fields to make it go away ;)
<joepie91> heh
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: I like it, we should replace bash with this
<gchristensen> sphalerite: sounds great!
<gchristensen> imagine, you can do _better_ than Bash functions here, with XSLT to transform the XML before execution
<mdash> also remember that xml tag names can be just emoji
<mdash> <😻>your function body here</😻>
<gchristensen> <👹 />
<samueldr> <〈〉>do you hate me now?</〈〉>
<mdash> samueldr: was hoping that wasn't allowed but it is!
<samueldr> <︿>YMMV</︿>
<gchristensen> <«»>...</«»>
<mdash> samueldr: not well-formed xml
<mdash> oops i misread, it is
<mdash> gchristensen: _that_ is illegal xml.
<sphalerite> <≪≫>
<sphalerite> mdash: why?
<sphalerite> <≪≫></≪≫>
<mdash> sphalerite: NameStartChar ::= ":" | [A-Z] | "_" | [a-z] | [#xC0-#xD6] | [#xD8-#xF6] | [#xF8-#x2FF] | [#x370-#x37D] | [#x37F-#x1FFF] | [#x200C-#x200D] | [#x2070-#x218F] | [#x2C00-#x2FEF] | [#x3001-#xD7FF] | [#xF900-#xFDCF] | [#xFDF0-#xFFFD] | [#x10000-#xEFFFF]
<mdash> #xAB not in that list
<sphalerite> aaah ok
<sphalerite> hm nor is 226b
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<jomik> If you are bored srhb ... Try proving 7.50 in http://users-cs.au.dk/birke/papers/iris-lecture-notes.pdf :D
<jomik> Assignment 1 out of 2 done!
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<pie____> hm this looks like it might be interesting to look at https://genode.org/documentation/developer-resources/package_management
<pie____> they tried nix but didnt find it suitable for their purposes
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<samueldr> hum wow, what a way NOT to disclose things :/ https://blade.tencent.com/magellan/index_en.html
<samueldr> (mainly how unclear how and why chromium is thrown around a bunch if it's a sqlite issue)
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<joepie91> samueldr: wait, why isn't it listed in the release log for sqlite
<joepie91> samueldr: also, chromium was probably mentioned due to the ability for arbitrary websites to get shit stored in sqlite
<samueldr> exactly that
<samueldr> (from the orange site's discussions)
<joepie91> lol
<samueldr> (and also just thinking about it and web sql or whatever the name of the aborted spec)
<samueldr> >> [$TBD][900910] High To be allocated: Multiple issues in SQLite via WebSQL. Reported by Wenxiang Qian of Tencent Blade Team on 2018-11-01
<samueldr> (permission denied)
<samueldr> what maybe is happening is that it's a footnote for SQLite, some erratic behaviour (which is noted in the change log), but how chromium uses it causes more damage