gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<samueldr> notices != action (/me) :)
<infinisil> Yeah I noticed (hehe)
<infinisil> I wonder if I can do JOIN
<infinisil> ..
<infinisil> Phew, doesn't seem to work :)
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* infinisil is trying to fix the channel/connection closing problem that's been eating messages for so long
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<gchristensen> infinisil: are you pinging?
<gchristensen> heartbeat*
<infinisil> I am not
<gchristensen> turn on heartbeats
<infinisil> How do?
<gchristensen> Network.AMQP?
<infinisil> Ahhh
<gchristensen> coHearbeatDelay (Just 5) or something
<infinisil> "If Nothing, the value suggested by the broker is used."
<infinisil> Setting it to 5 anyways
<gchristensen> I forget the default, but yeah, heartbeats are nice
<infinisil> Tbh, the problem will just be that I'm not restarting the connection when it gets closed for some reason
<infinisil> I think
<infinisil> But I'll use this oportunity to refactor all that code
<infinisil> gchristensen: Something I'm not so sure about (I read through the docs of rabbitmq a bit now): I have to create a queue and get an autogenerated queue name I then bind this to the exchange for messages and can then receive stuff.
<gchristensen> yeah
<infinisil> But now my bot goes offline for a bit and comes back on
<infinisil> offline = connection gets lost
<infinisil> How can I process the missed messages?
<gchristensen> you can't, by design
<infinisil> Hmm..
<infinisil> Okay so I'll just start it really quickly again
<infinisil> But that's meh
<gchristensen> you could start it and then kill the old one :)
<infinisil> I'd only start it once I realize the connection is lost, at which point messages could already be lost
<gchristensen> you really don't want to respond to old messages, though, for an IRC bot
<infinisil> I'll just do a whole bunch of logging to hopefully find what's even causing the lost connection
<infinisil> gchristensen: If the messages are <10ms old then maybe I do
<infinisil> Eh anyways
<infinisil> gchristensen: Can you join #bottest for a second?
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<infinisil> Haha: "Laplace used the rule of succession to calculate the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow, given that it has risen every day for the past 5000 years. One obtains a very large factor of approximately 5000 × 365.25, which gives odds of 1826251:1 in favour of the sun rising tomorrow. "
<gchristensen> my brother did a thesis on schmavity: the idea that historic performance gives no indication of future performance, and thus we have no specific basis to believe gravity won't be inverted by the time we wake up.
<infinisil> Hah
<ottidmes> what would be good options names for lib and lib overlays? there already exists a lib, which I believe to be outdated, but it might be in use by some
<ottidmes> hmm, nevermind, I dont think that approach is even going to work
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<ekleog> triage brings up some fun conversations… until one understands the crux of the discussion was deleted https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/51387
<{^_^}> #51387 (by M-Gregoire, 5 days ago, open): thunar-archive-plugin: 0.3.1 -> 0.4
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<ekleog> even better when there were actually no deleted comments \o/
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<gchristensen> hah
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<andi-> <3 nixos crosscompilation.. Started out with building an openbmc inspired thing for the supermicro board and the ast2400 on it.. Can't wait for the development board to arrive.
<gchristensen> incredible
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<elvishjerricco> andi-: Wasn't there some problem with the user management script failing to cross compile? How did you solve that?
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<andi-> elvishjerricco: I am waaaaay more low-level right now
<andi-> uboot, kerne
<andi-> +l
<andi-> I do not plan to run NixOS on that box since it would not have enough RAM/CPU/Disk/… anyway
<joepie91> andi-: pft, anything can run NixOS if you're brave enough
<joepie91> see: not-os
<joepie91> :P
<sphalerite> joepie91: but that's *not* nixos
<joepie91> lol
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<gchristensen> "The Finnish equivalent of 'we're fucked' is literally we're sbmerged in piss'" hmm they've got a good thing going there
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<qyliss> I mean we have “up shit creek” and stuff
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<ottidmes> beside "we are fucked" we also have "to the moon" :P
<__monty__> infinisil: Is it just me or was day 7 pretty darn hard?
<infinisil> __monty__: It totally was!
<infinisil> I even tried to do it as fast as possible, bugs ensured
<__monty__> I assume you beat 3s?
<infinisil> Yeah, it's pretty much instantaneous for me
<infinisil> Wait
<infinisil> Yeah
<infinisil> 10-20ms
<infinisil> __monty__: Yours takes 3s to run? Part b?
<__monty__> Both, but I do runghc rather than compile.
<__monty__> Maybe it doesn't optimize or something?
<infinisil> There are some instances where it doesn't optimize certain things, could be really fast when compiled
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