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<gchristensen> lol
<gchristensen> copumpkin: builtins.match "^result(-.*)?$" "result-2" this one works too
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<gchristensen> the (|...) construct is a funny way to replace ea ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 65ff0d5 danbst: switch-to-configuration: fix detection of changes between rebuilds for template instances...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 63f8122 danbst: nixos tests: add test for declarative containers, that container config changes...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3e18f32 Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #28465 from danbst/reloadable-containers...
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<copumpkin> I'll amend cleanSource to match that then :)
<gchristensen> I wonder why those regexes were written so funny
<Infinisil> Why must it be a single regex though?
<gchristensen> copumpkin: maybe ping Dezgeg on it
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ae742fa Tim Steinbach: frandom: Remove
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b91ed35 Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #28660 from NeQuissimus/frandom_patch...
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<Infinisil> wait, I don't fully get the problem, never mind
<gchristensen> it is a simple enough regex :)
<sphalerite> Infinisil Maybe to reduce the amount of nix getting evaluated
<Infinisil> Well, any 2 combined regexes can be expressed as a single one really
<Infinisil> i think
<gchristensen> does ^.*(.sw[a-z]|~)$ require 2?
<Infinisil> Well no :P
<Infinisil> (just ignore what i said)
<copumpkin> the ~ is already covered by filterSource actually
<copumpkin> so I really just need to catch .sw*
<Infinisil> (i just don't like regexes very much)
<gchristensen> ^.*.sw[a-z]$ then
<copumpkin> yup
<gchristensen> erm
<copumpkin> with escaped dot
<gchristensen> :)
<copumpkin> do I need to double escape actually?
<Ankhers> Does anyone have information on that "|" thing? I thought pipe was used for "this or that" type regexes.
<gchristensen> I doon't think so
<gchristensen> yeah it is this-or-that
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<gchristensen> ^.*\.sw[a-z]$ or ^.*~$
<Ankhers> Sorry. I meant in the original.
<Ankhers> ^result(|-.*)$
<gchristensen> oh it is a confusing way to write ^result(-.*)?$
<sphalerite> Ankhers: that's exactly what it is in that case
<gchristensen> ie: making that (..) bit optional
<Ankhers> Oh.
<Ankhers> Weird. I need to brush up on my regex...
<gchristensen> weird is right
<gchristensen> never seen it before
<sphalerite> It sort of makes sense to me because it moves the optionality inside the parens
<sphalerite> Having it outside seems weird to me because the parens have a "side effect" of capturing whatever the expression inside matches
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e16a098 Silvan Mosberger: radicale: 1.1.4 -> 2.1.2...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d1d019 Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #27826 from Infinisil/radicale...
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<dash> ugh. trying to package a program that thinks writing to /etc at startup is a good idea
<Infinisil> dash: Isn't that not too much of a problem on nixos?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #27795: vm: Add trusty-updates to the packages list (master...trusty-updates) https://git.io/v78wC
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<dash> infinisil: after i patch it
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<copumpkin> dezgeg, gchristensen: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/28722 :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #28722: Deduplicate some filterSource invocations (master...filterSource-cleanup) https://git.io/v5cMH
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5cMN
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5543e99 Will Dietz: snowman: init at 2017-07-22
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<gchristensen> copumpkin: I _think_ you can drop the != null bit
<gchristensen> oh, no
<copumpkin> it returns null or lists
<copumpkin> I do kind of want to switch the giant boolean expression to an if block
* gchristensen runs away
<copumpkin> I won't do it here :)
<gchristensen> I usually negate it all
<gchristensen> oh nvm
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<gchristensen> puffnfresh: ping?
<puffnfresh> gchristensen: hey
<gchristensen> its 10:30 am for you right?
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<gchristensen> puffnfresh: may I PM?
<copumpkin> omg it's a puffnfresh
<gchristensen> I think he made like a parrot and flew :P
<gchristensen> s/ a / his /
<copumpkin> squawk
<puffnfresh> yeah
<puffnfresh> PM me
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<Infinisil> What the hell is __ignoreNulls, I am getting `The option `__ignoreNulls' defined in `/global/system/nixos/mail.nix' does not exist.`
<copumpkin> I think it's a secret mkDerivation attribute
<copumpkin> are you somehow passing a derivation output into the module system?
<Infinisil> I think so yes
<copumpkin> why?
<Infinisil> Well it's the pkgs.fetchFromGitHub in imports
<copumpkin> ah, hmm
<Infinisil> Alright I'll just use builtins.fetchTarball.
<Infinisil> Not really super nice, but it's acceptible
<Infinisil> acceptable*
<copumpkin> are you importing fetchFromGitHub now?
<copumpkin> or just passing it indirectly
<copumpkin> in directly
<Infinisil> directly
<Infinisil> but I think i tried both and it didn't work
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] moaxcp opened pull request #28723: notion: 3-2015061300 -> 3-2017050501 (master...master) https://git.io/v5cyJ
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<Infinisil> Oh
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<Infinisil> I used (let pkgs = import <nixpkgs> {})
<Infinisil> to not have recursion
<Infinisil> but maybe I should use `import <nixpkgs> {config = {};} instead
<Infinisil> Nope
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5cyS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 48291b0 Sang Hak (Andy) Chun: displaylink: use requireFile instead of fetchurl...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dpflug opened pull request #28724: gargoyle: 2017-05-17 -> 2017-08-27 (master...gargoyle-2017-08-27) https://git.io/v5cy9
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28309: nodejs: 8.3.0 -> 8.4.0 (master...nodejs-8.4.0) https://git.io/v7bUJ
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bd54589 Symphorien Gibol: networkmanager_iodine: init at 1.2.0
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<copumpkin> gchristensen: should I just merge it or wait for dezgeg? doesn't seem very controversial
<tnias> I have a shell.nix file and want to get the current boot.kernelPackages.kernel. How do i get the config into my context?
<copumpkin> puffnfresh: you coming to NixCon? :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28275: blueman: fix python wrapper mockup (master...fix-blueman-path) https://git.io/v75o1
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<gchristensen> copumpkin: re your comment on .o's and .so's they're not, cleanSource is used in places nix-shell is used to build / develop software :)
<copumpkin> oh fair enough
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<Infinisil> tnias: I have no idea why you'd want that, but you can use `(import <nixpkgs/nixos> {}).config.boot.kernelPackages.kernel`
<tnias> Infinisil: thanks. I am trying to create a build/test environment for a kernel module.
<puffnfresh> copumpkin: nah wish I was :(
<copumpkin> aw boo
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<Infinisil> How would I create a nixos option usable like `option = { foo = { hello = "hi"; }; }` so that it resolves to (the final config being) `option = [ { name = "foo"; hello = "hi"; }; ]`?
<tnias> Infinisil: can you iterate over the attributes from `option`? (to get from set to list, if that was your question)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5c9R
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e2589b3 Dan Peebles: Deduplicate some filterSource invocations...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ec75a30 Daniel Peebles: Merge pull request #28722 from copumpkin/filterSource-cleanup...
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<tnias> Ohh, nvm.. that was not the question.. :/
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<tnias> Infinisil: maybe you are looking for something like `mapAttrsToList`, that is used for `vhosts` in nixpkgs/nixos/modules/web-servers/nginx
<Infinisil> tnias: Yeah I could use this when accessing the config, but I want the accessed config to be of type list already, but declare is as a set
<Infinisil> so I think it's something with the types `functor`
<Infinisil> not sure
<tnias> could you just check the type and if required just apply a transformation
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<Infinisil> How would i apply the transformation for the type itself?
<Infinisil> I hoped there would be something like this in nixpkgs/lib
<Infinisil> but there doesn't seem to
<Infinisil> be
<Infinisil> Eh whatever, I'll just use an attrset
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #28717: zsh: 5.4.1 -> 5.4.2 (master...zsh_5_4_2) https://git.io/v5cze
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<gchristensen> 385 PRs ... in-cre-di-ble
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<gchristensen> awww
<gchristensen> windowManager.compiz.enable = true; is broken
<alunduil> Does anyone have an example of a shell.nix for local developement of a project using two languages?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5c5T
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8c506df Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.posixat: mark as broken with OCaml 4.05
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2a191ed Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.ppx_deriving_yojson: mark as broken with OCaml 4.05
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a9be3c2 Théo Zimmermann: ocamlPackages.ppx_deriving: 4.1 -> 4.2...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl closed pull request #28636: ocamlPackages.ppx_deriving: 4.1 -> 4.2 (master...ppx_deriving_4.2) https://git.io/v5shT
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vyp opened pull request #28726: interception-tools: init at 0.1.1 (master...interception-tools) https://git.io/v5cdP
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<xd1le> Hello all, how can I find the nix variable to the path to the perl interpreter? For example, for the python interpreter it is `${python.interpreter}`.
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<disasm> gchristensen: that explains why my terminals are no longer transparent :)
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<babs__> why when I try and build nixpkgs/pkgs/development/libraries/qt-5/5.6 or 5.8 they "error: cannot auto-call a function that has an argument without a default value (‘newScope’)" ?
<babs__> because I need QT 5.8 to be able to build this other package
<Lisanna> xd1le: I don't think perl has an equivalent attribute. What you can always do is something like ${perl}/bin/perl or wherever perl's default install location for its binary is
<Lisanna> babs__: soundslike the derivation for qt5.6 takes some inputs, i.e., it probably wasn't meant ot be built directly?
<Lisanna> it's probablyan intermediary that's called by another derivation in one of those files
<babs__> ohh
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<babs__> Lisanna: so how do I figure out which one?
<Lisanna> babs__: I'd start by using the NixOS package search, they usually have a link to the derivation that the package is built from
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<babs__> Lisanna: so pkgs/build-support/trivial-builders.nix ?
<babs__> I assumed that was a glitch or somethin
<Lisanna> ah, that's probably not too useful of a place to look
<Lisanna> I think some of the nixpkgs entries for where the derivation are are out of date. look at some of the other qt versions and at least one of them should be right
<Lisanna> I swear I looked at this before... try one of the qt4 ones
<Lisanna> that should give you a hint about where the qt5 expressions are
<Lisanna> probably also just poke around in development/libraries/qt-5/... I haven't built using qt in nix so I wouldn't know without looking myself
<babs__> Lisanna: QT4 is pkgs/development/libraries/qt-4.x/4.8/default.nix lol
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<babs__> Lisanna: QT4 does not build either
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<Lisanna> that should probably get you going :)
<babs__> Lisanna: thank you, however I'm still a bit of a noob to the language, what do I with that (or what does it tell me)?
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<Lisanna> babs__: I was a noob to the language not too long ago ^^ if possible I'd suggest learning the basics of the language, and practice by doing some tutorials. I struggled with trying to use Nix for awhile until finally it *clicked*. The language isn't that complicated, and once you learn the basics everything becomes really cool
<Lisanna> that line is a function call, it calls recurseIntoAttrs, which takes one argument, which is that derivation for qt56 you were having trouble building before, and that derivation is a function which takes one argument which is a set containing derivations for a bunch of packages and some arguments
<Lisanna> (like newScope)
<Lisanna> inherit newScope means literally "newScope = newScope" (i.e. use the newScope that's defined in the current environment)
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<babs__> Lisanna: so do I copy and paste it into it's own .nix file?
<Lisanna> what are you trying to do with it?
<Lisanna> if just want to use it in a build then you should just use the one that is provided with nixpkgs
<babs__> Lisanna: I need it to build QT 5.8 or later (I saw a QT 5.9 in libraries/qt-5)
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<Lisanna> the easiest way to get that would probably be to clone nixpkgs and modify that in-place
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<babs__> Lisanna: and then do the "make my own channe" jitsu stuff?
<babs__> *channel
<Lisanna> yeah
<babs__> kk ill give it a go
<babs__> Lisanna: so how much do I modify in place? do a mass replace of qt56 to qt59? lol
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<Lisanna> look in the main derivation for it, there should be a "version" attribute
<Lisanna> and that will deterimine the src distribution that's downloaded
<babs__> Lisanna: the main derivation as in the one you linked?
<Lisanna> no, the one you found originally
<Lisanna> nixpkgs/pkgs/development/libraries/qt-5/5.6 or 5.8
<babs__> Lisanna: nixpkgs/pkgs/development/libraries/qt-5/5.9/default.nix ?
<babs__> yeah
<babs__> Lisanna: but how will that get called?
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<babs__> Lisanna: if it calls 5.6 by default when you install qt5.full ?
<Lisanna> if you maintain your own nixpkgs you can change which one gets called
<Lisanna> I'd add a 5.9 directory in the existing tree and setup the parents the same way that the ones for qt56 are
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<freeman42x[skyne> Teamviewer appears to be broken on stable: https://paste2.org/A3fv2xnY
<Lisanna> seems like nixpkgs needs more tests in general
<Lisanna> I looked through the list and there aren't that many ):
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] canndrew opened pull request #28728: conky: enable nvidia support (master...conky-nvidia) https://git.io/v5cNa
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<freeman42x[nix]> is this a know bug? https://paste2.org/WfnjFM1s
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<xd1le> Lisanna: thank you :)
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<neonfuz> disasm: thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #28729: [WIP] terraform: provide plugins for 0.10 (master...terraform-plugins) https://git.io/v5cpD
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #28730: network-interfaces-scripted: don't add 'lo' as device dependency (master...network-fail) https://git.io/v5cpF
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<pi3r> I hate to say it but the lack of responsiveness for issues regarding the nixos-stable branch is well ... alarming (in my case of course)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5chb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b50309a Peter Hoeg: httrack: 3.48.22 -> 3.49.2
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<jb55> pretty sure nix-devel@googlegroups.com is blackholing my emails...
<jb55> which is weird because my email works fine for other google groups... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<pi3r2> I probably need to adopt a different stategy. Move out non essential packages (such as vcsh) out of stable and pin a version that works for these
<pi3r2> There are many risks such packages won't build whenever I update the stable branch.
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<jb55> I find incrementally updating nixos-unstable is the best, not a fan of huge jumps between stable releases
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<sphalerite> pi3r: there's only so much available resource-wise
<sphalerite> We're not debian
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #28728: conky: enable nvidia support (master...conky-nvidia) https://git.io/v5cNa
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<sphalerite> Oh, they left
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<pi3r> I understand the resource problem. Maybe a set of "vetted" package (ala arch core repo) would help
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<sphalerite> Arguably that's what you get with the nixos tests
<sphalerite> Of course it's not clear which packages they cover
<sphalerite> Some sort of test coverage thing would be cool. Probably verging on impossible to implement, but cool.
<sphalerite> There's also the option of paid support, there are several companies that do Nix/NixOS consulting
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] canndrew opened pull request #28731: hivemind: Fix boost version dependency (master...fix-hivemind) https://git.io/v5CvO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5Cvw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8988f85 Peter Hoeg: httraqt: init at 1.4.9
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<cmcdragonkai1> What is the emscriptenStdenv?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mbrock opened pull request #28732: solc: v0.4.13 -> v0.4.16 (master...dapphub-solc) https://git.io/v5Cfz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #28733: datamash: 1.1.1 -> 1.2 (master...update_datamash) https://git.io/v5CJI
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<airogjaerga> Hi! I'm new to nix. Following along with https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-expression-syntax, and want to package a simple C program just for the heck of it. I'm wondering where one finds documentation about nix functions - I'm looking for what to replace `fetchurl` with foro when I want to read from files in `./src/`?
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<LnL> you can just replace it with ./src :)
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<airogjaerga> so `src = ./src`? Not even in "" quotes?
<cmcdragonkai1> documentation of nix functions depends on whether you're looking for docs on the builtins or the functions provided as part of nixpkgs "standard library"
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<sphalerite> airogjaerga: yes
<LnL> airogjaerga: yep
<airogjaerga> cmcdragonkai1: I don't know what parts of it are in the standard lib or builtin :-/. Just want to write nix expressions, and not to bother you fine people every time I don't know what arguments to provide some function
<airogjaerga> Thanks for pointing out that I can just write ./src though :-)
<cmcdragonkai1> the builtins will be best documented in the actual nix repository not nixpkgs
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<cmcdragonkai1> they should be part of the `builtins` namespace
<cmcdragonkai1> whereas nixpkgs "standard lib" will be in the lib directory of nixpkgs
<airogjaerga> I'm really sorry, don't mean to ask stupid questions but is this the namespace you refer to? https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/src/libstore/builtins.cc
<gilligan_> argh, help .. I can't connect to any protected wifi with network-manager anymore. I get the usual widget but can't click "connect" - I see an error in the logs about gnome-keyring not being able to access /run/user/1000/keyring/control - Does anyone have any clue how to fix this?
<gilligan_> never had this issue before
* airogjaerga thanks cmcdragonkai1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jb55 opened pull request #28734: trezord: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1 (master...progress/28643/trezord) https://git.io/v5CJS
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<cmcdragonkai1> airogjaerga: This is the rendered version of that
<cmcdragonkai1> airogjaerga: I believe the implementations of the functions occur in C
<cmcdragonkai1> whereas the impls for the nixpkgs stdlib functions are written in nix
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<cmcdragonkai1> airogjaerga: Sorry I meant C++, here's where they are all implemented: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/src/libexpr/primops.cc
<airogjaerga> cmcdragonkai1: thank you very much for sharing!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gebner pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5CU2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d277d52 William Casarin: trezord: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master dd108a6 Gabriel Ebner: Merge pull request #28734 from jb55/progress/28643/trezord...
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<sphalerite> gilligan__: those things sound like they're not directly related but might share a root cause of DBus issues
<sphalerite> oh wait no
<sphalerite> that does sound like one might be causing the other
<sphalerite> what's your setup?
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<gilligan_> sphalerite, running i3 and network-manager-applet
<gilligan_> sphalerite, i removed the network and tried again and then it magically worked
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<remexre> Hi, I'm new to NixOS and I'm having trouble adding a printer; I can't find a value for services.printing.drivers that installs the gutenprintBin driver; I've tried cups-gutenprint-binary, gutenprint-binary, gutenprintBin, and nixos.gutenprintBin
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<remexre> Instead, I get "error undefined variable 'whatever I put' at ..."
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jb55 opened pull request #28735: stagit: init at 0.6 (master...init/stagit-0.6) https://git.io/v5CkJ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #28736: pspp: 0.8.3 -> 1.0.1 (master...update_pspp) https://git.io/v5CkT
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<symphorien> try pkgs.gutenprintBin
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<remexre> Oh, cool, that works perfectly; thanks!
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<joepie91> remexre: if you're basing this on some piece of example code elsewhere; it's possible that the example code in question used `with pkgs;`, which brings every attribute of `pkgs` into scope
<joepie91> so `with pkgs; foo` can resolve to `pkgs.foo`
<remexre> I'm just basing it on the wiki's printing article, which just says "Replace YOUR_DRIVER with the driver of your printer" without mentioning "with pkgs;". Nifty trick though!
<joepie91> remexre: hm, have a link to the article in question?
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<joepie91> yeah, that's described pretty poorly
<joepie91> hold on
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<joepie91> remexre: added an example :)
<remexre> nice, thanks!
<joepie91> oh, need to fix the hp thing too
<joepie91> there, fixed
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<seequ> Does nixos support using a mounted (and shared) filesystem for the store?
<seequ> I'd like to run a bunch of VMs without replicating overlapping derivations.
<sphalerite> seequ: not if they're going to be writing to it
<joepie91> seequ: there's some discussion about it on https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/12 but I don't know much more about it than that
<JosW> Hi, can someone point me to the right direction
<makefu> seequ: there is also https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NFS#Nix_store_on_NFS but this only holds true for single-user installations
<seequ> joepie91: Not what I had in mind, but interesting nonetheless. :)
<JosW> How and where can one adjust configuration for say, terminator or nginx?
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<makefu> JosW: NixOS provides a module system for that, check https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_Modules . configuring nginx will use the options https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#services.nginx
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<JosW> Thank, using Nixos since a few weeks but need to dive in deep. Was trying to convince someone else to try it but was confronted with this configuration question.
<JosW> Thought it should be the module sytem, so got some reading to do :)
<makefu> JosW: NixOS has a steep learning curve, just keep on rocking :)
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<JosW> I now, someohow everything feels right about it so I keep trying.
<makefu> the really cool thing is that NixOS will take care of your /etc/ stuff in a single consistent file (configuration.nix). no need to fiddle around in a million files in /etc/ or even /opt/
<JosW> Yeah, love the way this is setup. Found Nixos when searching for filesystem versioncontrol, it was mentioned on the NILFS2 wikipedia site.
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<makefu> that is ... fascinating :D
<JosW> Needed to completely setup a server again after an ssl setting for some software went wrong, was still not using any versioning software at that time...
<JosW> lot to learn!
<makefu> using ssl with nginx is like the best thing, really
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<JosW> yes, so i need to change my Drupal sites from usig lighttpd to nginx, another task waiting for me.
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<makefu> these 4 lines configure ssl with acme for a proxy-pass to a local port
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<makefu> ah it is even in the wiki: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nginx
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mt-caret opened pull request #28737: multi-file-swagger: init at 2.2.0 (master...multi-file-swagger) https://git.io/v5CtB
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<NeedsAdvice923> does nix verify the packages it installs? E.g. signature checking, or some form of chain of trust.
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<makefu> NeedsAdvice923: yes, packages from the binary cache are signed, source packages are matched against their sha256sum
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<makefu> also see the reference documentation in nix: https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#binary-cache-format-and-operation
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<JosW> makefu: thanks for the nginx stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ma27 opened pull request #28738: weechat-matrix-bridge: init at 2017-03-28 (master...init/weechat-matrix-bridge) https://git.io/v5CYN
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<qknight> Dezgeg: huhu, are you there?
<qknight> Dezgeg: are you from stockholm?
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<Dezgeg> no
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm created terraform_maj_min (+1 new commit): https://git.io/v5COP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/terraform_maj_min c2887d6 zimbatm: terraform: only expose maj.min to top-level...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm opened pull request #28739: terraform: only expose maj.min to top-level (master...terraform_maj_min) https://git.io/v5CO9
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<JosW> the hydra manual isn't up to date, is there somewhere other info about installing Hydra?
<qknight> JosW: it is part of nixpkgs
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<JosW> ok so as easy as using nix-env -I?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5CZv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7978eda Robert Helgesson: python-PyICU: disable for darwin...
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<qknight> JosW: this is my configuration
<qknight> JosW: don't use nix-env at all for hydra
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<JosW> qknight: great! even using nginx. Will look at your configuration and how to include it in configuration.nix
<JosW> hmm, where to adjust the total numbers of builders
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<makefu> JosW: there is "maxBuildJobs" and "buildCores" : https://github.com/tianyicui/nix/blob/master/nix.conf.example#L52-L70
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<JosW> Ah, thanks again! :)
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<makefu> when you configure it in configuration.nix: "nix.buildCores = 4" or "nix.maxJobs = 2";
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Hinidu opened pull request #28740: awscli: 1.11.108 -> 1.11.142 (master...awscli-1.11.142) https://git.io/v5CcI
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<pstn> Is nixos-unstable stuck again?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] zimbatm closed pull request #1538: libexpr: add sha256 noop argument to fetch (1.11-maintenance...1.11-fetchurl-sha256) https://git.io/v5ZjB
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5C4P
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 128cdef Graham Christensen: compiz: drop
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5d4a54c Jörg Thalheim: network-interfaces-scripted: don't add 'lo' as device dependency...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 693d240 Tim Steinbach: docker-edge: 17.06 -> 17.07
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28671: gnupg: 2.1.23 -> 2.2.0 (master...update_gpg2) https://git.io/v5ZD6
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<gchristensen> should I do any more docs around https://git.io/v5C4P or does that lgty?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28694: hsevm: v0.3.2 -> v0.6.4 (master...dapphub-hsevm) https://git.io/v5nNV
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28735: stagit: init at 0.6 (master...init/stagit-0.6) https://git.io/v5CkJ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28736: pspp: 0.8.3 -> 1.0.1 (master...update_pspp) https://git.io/v5CkT
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28733: datamash: 1.1.1 -> 1.2 (master...update_datamash) https://git.io/v5CJI
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5CRQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fbc3c69 Andrew Cann: hivemind: Fix boost version dependency
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<ixxie> https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS <- Write Me :)
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<vegai> hmm, isn't there an official wiki?
<ixxie> nope
<ixxie> We are now making a push to make this new wiki super nice
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<gchristensen> "The Modern Comedy of the NixOS wiki" heh
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<gchristensen> and I'm semipermanently in the anals of wiki-time
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<ixxie> Youv'e made the history books
<ixxie> congradulations
<vegai> holy crap
<vegai> how can setting up a wiki be so difficult
<vegai> oh well, let's not dwell on the negative. Good work, ixxie!
<vegai> where is that hosted?
<fpletz> vegai: it isn't but at the time nobody wanted to maintain it
<fpletz> vegai: you have to ask fadenb
<joepie91> gchristensen: annals*
<joepie91> subtle but important difference
<joepie91> lol
<gchristensen> joepie91: YIKES.
<fpletz> hehe :)
<florianjacob> Does somebody know how to merge two submodule definitions with one having priority over the other? Currently fiddling around with mkMerge and mkDefault, but I can't get it to work :(
<vegai> I wish I had been in the group that made the excellent Arch Linux Wiki
<vegai> they did something very very right there
<vegai> I cannot imagine that it just happened
<joepie91> Arch seems to generally have a more document-y culture
<gchristensen> vegai: it didn't :)
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<gchristensen> also lol at the "modern" theme for mediawiki: https://nixos.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=modern
<joepie91> lol
<kragniz> now that's modern
<joepie91> gchristensen: remember "web 2.0"?
<gchristensen> you bet, gosh, I hated web 2.0 b/c I wasn't skilled enough to make drop shadows or rounded things
<gchristensen> Mic92: btw do you have a backup copy of the old wiki?
<joepie91> hehe
<joepie91> so I went looking for a representative image
<joepie91> and I'm honestly not sure how to feel about this
<gchristensen> huh.
<joepie91> perhaps this is less crazy to somebody who actually speaks Japanese, but damn :P
<vegai> that wiki at least needs a few basic layout fixes
<ixxie> vegai: praise should go to Mic92, fadenb and makefu really!
<vegai> spacing and font size and that sorta thing
<vegai> just copying some of the Arch Linux wiki css settings might be a good start already :P
<vegai> this seems like a superficial thing, but it's very important
<joepie91> I would say that a good start is restricting horizontal width of the 'readable area'
<vegai> a wiki that looks like a vanilla mediawiki installation has a bad smell
<joepie91> the usual 960px rule and so on
<vegai> sure
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<cmcdragonkai1> bootstrap
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<ixxie> vegai: I looked for better themes (or 'skins' as mediawiki calls them) and its pretty damn hard to find nice ones
<vegai> cmcdragonkai1: is that applicable to mediawiki?
<gchristensen> probably the best use of time would be contributing content
<joepie91> not entirely sure how to wrangle the mediawiki layout into 960px though
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<cmcdragonkai1> not sure, but 960px made me remember the days of css templates and bootstrap
<cmcdragonkai1> and photoshop slicing
<joepie91> gchristensen: content alone isn't useful if it's difficult to consume; there's a few relatively cheap styling fixes that can make content far more accessible
<vegai> making the wiki seem professional is just as important as the content
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<ixxie> I agree vegai
<ixxie> theme suggestions are welcome
<ixxie> the Arch wiki theme is a custom one made by their team
<ixxie> its not open source
<fpletz> florianjacob: do you want to override an actial option in a submodule (mkOption) or just override its configuration?
<joepie91> most importantly the horizontal width and line/text spacing
<joepie91> possibly font size as well
<ixxie> thats one of the first things I was looking at
<vegai> cool :)
<vegai> I wonder what would be a productive way to make all this happen, then
<gchristensen> makefu: should I disable the nixos user wiki repo searchh on search.nix.gsc.io?
<joepie91> like, it's probably not worth it to spend weeks designing a theme, but some readability patches are important :P
<vegai> yeah, definitely
<makefu> gchristensen: yes, go ahead :)
<ixxie> help is welcome, us wiki people hang out at #krebs
<vegai> it shouldn't need endless tweaking, just a few things and then it'll be permanently better
<gchristensen> ok
<gchristensen> ixxie: what is krebs?
<makefu> btw the "archive" of the old wiki is https://nixos.org/~eelco/wiki-20160212.xml.gz , the converted files are at https://github.com/zimbatm/nixos-wiki-test
<ixxie> gchristensen: I think its a hacker collective that Mic92, makefu and fadenb are involved in
<ixxie> if I understand correctly
<makefu> gchristensen: yes, it is essentially a group of people doing computer stuff
<ixxie> vegai: I was thinking of finding a good (prefrebly bootstrap based) theme for mediawiki and tweaking it to our needs
<ixxie> vegai: I have some graphic design background so I can help, but at the moment I am more focused on getting primary pages of the wiki up
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<cmcdragonkai1> where will this new wiki be hosted?
<goibhniu> the chameleon skin looks pretty good (bootstrap 3): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Chameleon e.g. https://www.physio-pedia.com/Contribute
<gchristensen> cmcdragonkai1: it is hosted by fadenb
<ixxie> cmcdragonkai1: nixos.wiki
<ixxie> goibhniu: yeah I saw the chameleon skin
<ixxie> I believe the issue with it was that it seemed not to be well maintained at the moment
<makefu> gchristensen: thanks for cleaning up the "history of the wiki" :) you are correct, the PR was introduced on 3rd and merged on 9th
<gchristensen> makefu: :)
<gchristensen> makefu: oh, cool, I thought I had the only archive :)
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<makefu> i googled "wiki-20160212.xml.gz"
<joepie91> ixxie: gchristensen: very rudimentary design proposal: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/images/4uefkr8z.png
<ixxie> Archives should probably be listed here https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Bookmarks
<joepie91> just messed about a bit in devtools, and there are some quirks because of weird hacks in the mediawiki vector theme
<joepie91> but to give a general idea
<gchristensen> makefu: why?
<makefu> gchristensen: because i saw this file name at https://github.com/zimbatm/nixos-wiki-test
<joepie91> no idea how to fix the tab style, it seems to do some background image hackery
<gchristensen> cool
<joepie91> thoughts?
<ixxie> I like the narrow text field, its a great idea
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<ixxie> this is why we have columns of text
<joepie91> yep, less horizontal scanning
<joepie91> never quite understood why mediawiki defaults to full-width, to be honest :P given its purpose
<florianjacob> fpletz: High-level view: For some submodule instances, I want to change the defaults values for several mkOptions in that submodules to something application specific. Something like `nginx.virtualHosts = [ (mkMerge sharedDefaults { specifics = "foobar"; }) ];` was in my mind, but that doesn't work, as mkMerge doesn't handle options defined twice. ( I have many similar-configured submodules (nginx vhosts, many instances
<florianjacob> of the same web app), and I want to define the baseline of that modules once and then merge that baseline submodule definition with the specific configurations.)
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<ixxie> the colors are very.... blue! Normally since the logo is blue, the backgrounds should be more neutral, but I agree we should bring those nixos colors in there; I recon we can do it with some highlights
<symphorien> do you need to be part of a github organization to be allowed to edit the wiki ?
<ixxie> symphorien: no, you just need a github account
<joepie91> ixxie: yeah, feel free to mess about with it, I'm not married to the color scheme; pretty much just picked them out in a few seconds using a color picker
<ixxie> symphorien: its a spam protection
<joepie91> more to give an idea of how to make it look more NixOS
<joepie91> and less Mediawiki
<ixxie> yeah
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<joepie91> because yeah, default mediawiki does make something appear poorly maintained :P
<symphorien> ixxie: I just logged in with github (up right corner) but I can't see any "edit" link
<ixxie> joepie91: I would love a splash of darkness to it as well, like the arch wiki
<joepie91> ixxie: mixed light and dark designs are my major weakness so I don't think I can help with that :P
<joepie91> hehe
<ixxie> symphorien: have a look in the top right of the page, theres an edit tab
<joepie91> my specialization lies in general UX and "making it look pleasant enough", definitely not in high-quality visual design
<symphorien> hhum it is here indeed. don't know why I didn't see it before, sorry for the disturbance
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<ixxie> joepie91: if you and/or vegai help me find and maintain a good responsive theme, I can do the colors / graphic design for sure
<ixxie> joepie91: because thats the part I am struggling with at the moment
<joepie91> I know very little about mediawiki themes :D
<ixxie> oh well :)
<ixxie> lets see
<joepie91> by which I mean that I know the current default theme is named Vector and that's approximately the boundaries of my knowledge about mediawiki themes
<joepie91> sorry :P
<joepie91> (I'm not a big fan of mediawiki from a software perspective, based on my experiences with it in the past, so I don't ever do much with it)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 6a58b93 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.12.9 -> 4.12.10...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 598c6f4 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.45 -> 4.9.46...
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<makefu> joepie91: it is a gigantic leap forward from the github wiki (and of course having no wiki at all)
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<ixxie> I agree with both joepie91 and makefu xD
<joepie91> makefu: in some ways, not in others :P
<ixxie> joepie91: but what are the alternatives?
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<makefu> there is dokuwiki i guess
<joepie91> for a brief while I got a look 'behind the scenes' of how mediawiki works due to my involvement with Encyclopedia Dramatica, and at that point I realized how poorly engineered and unscalable some parts of Mediawiki are
<joepie91> ixxie: none, realistically
<joepie91> which is why I'm not vocal about my dislike of Mediawiki
<joepie91> :)
<joepie91> also, to put the above remark in perspective: updating one particular template took down a cluster of 4 dedicated servers for an hour
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<joepie91> there's some pretty serious design issues there
<joepie91> not crappy dedicated servers either...
<joepie91> (mediawiki has, or at least had, a design where it regenerates every page that uses a template statically whenever the template is updated; meaning that a single-character change in a template can trigger an immediate rebuild of thousands of pages, all of them slow to re-generate, sometimes cascading into different templates... and with no load control whatsoever)
<gchristensen> careful to not yuck makefu's yum
<joepie91> oh, this is not likely to be a problem here
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<joepie91> NixOS wiki isn't ever going to be big enough to cause issues with that, most likely
<joepie91> just explaining why I personally haven't touched it :)
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<joepie91> for this to be an issue, you need a fairly unique combination of frequent updates, cascading templates, and lots of pages over-using said templates
<gchristensen> the good news is you don't have to remember those things when you edit the wiki
<joepie91> so this is definitely not meant to discourage work on the NixOS wiki :P
<joepie91> right
<makefu> gchristensen: i am totally indifferent to the wiki software. i just asked fadenb if we can merge the nixos-user wiki into his instance because i think a wiki with a search bar is superior to one without
<joepie91> but like I said: there's not really any better alternatives, so I'm not going to hold this against nixos.wiki :P
<joepie91> I'm happy enough that there *is* a wiki again
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] tokudan opened pull request #28742: firefox: 55.0 -> 55.0.3 (release-17.03...release-17.03_ff5503) https://git.io/v5C29
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Infinisil opened pull request #28743: znapzend service: add autoCreation option (master...znapzend-autoCreation) https://git.io/v5CaC
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<gchristensen> thank you tokudan[m] :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #28742: firefox: 55.0 -> 55.0.3 (release-17.03...release-17.03_ff5503) https://git.io/v5C29
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<olejorgenb[m]> When a package (X) need a already-packaged dependency (Y), but compiled with more features (Z) enabled. What is the best solution? Create a Y-with-Z, or just "inline" the custom Y (eg. in the callPackage call)?
<olejorgenb[m]> If the feature was a small one I guess simply enabling it in Y would've an option too, but Z is webkit in this case
<tokudan[m]> gchristensen: hmm... I'm building it right now to confirm that there are no issues... but apparently just a cherry pick is good enough? :)
<gchristensen> oh! fingers crossed :P
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<florianjacob> fadenb: Through studying of how defaults for options are implemented, I now arrived at `let commonOptions = { addSSL = mkDefault true; } in mkMerge [ commonOptions { addSSL = false; } ];` which *seems* to do what I want, and may be the right way to do this?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 97a4088 Domen Kožar: Add lib.mod: integer modulus
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<Mic92> symphorien: you need to reload the page after login
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<Infinisil> olejorgenb[m]: I'd probably do `buildInputs = [ (thatpackage.override { foo = "newvalue"; }) ]
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<olejorgenb[m]> Infinisil: thanks
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<cmcdragonkai1> is it possible to get an emscripten that doesn't have fastcomp enabled?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e410a19 Bas van Dijk: haskell: add the checkUnusedPackages function including docs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8a0566e Peter Simons: Merge pull request #28744 from LumiGuide/checkUnusedPackages...
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<disasm> trying to get ardour building on nixos unstable this morning. The build fails with missing a boost library. Figured this would be a good time to try debugging a build. so I added -K to keep the build around, cd into /tmp/nix-build-ardour-5.11.drv-0, source env-vars and run $configurePhase, but it errors out /nix/store/98wzbkc7zm8ix4hrnq20j0wclbmd8adv-python-2.7.13/bin/python2.7: can't open file 'waf': [Errno
<disasm> 2] No such file or directory I feel like I'm missing a step here...
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<goibhniu> disasm: I think we have waf packaged now, so you could pass that in
<disasm> goibhniu: if I run nix-build -A ardour in nixpkgs dir though, it runs configure and fails: https://gist.github.com/bbad757686afff2ba1c034810dcbef4c I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing different manually than nix-build is doing.
<gchristensen> copumpkin: may I PM?
<copumpkin> sure
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<goibhniu> disasm: do you also run $patchPhase?
<disasm> all I need to do is type $patchPhase, right? cause that just outputs '#include
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<disasm> oh, that might need to be in a subshell since it has > in it
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<goibhniu> hrm
<disasm> ok, eval $patchPhase seems to have worked
<disasm> and same with configurePhase, if I eval that, it works too, so I was just doing it wrong.
<mudri> Hi. Can I use something like this to pin Haskell packages (either individually or all of them)? http://edwtjo.me/posts/2016-04-24-installing-older-pkgs-in-nixos/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v5Ci7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 5559000 Casey Rodarmor: ncurses: put tic binary in bin
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 823fb27 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #28226 from casey/ncurses-tic...
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<disasm> goibhniu: ah, also works with --pure without eval it appears
<disasm> err configure does
<disasm> oh, I was in wrong directory, lol
<goibhniu> oh! :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mguentner opened pull request #28746: tests: fix ipfs test, test actual networking functionality (master...ipfstest) https://git.io/v5CXC
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<disasm> oh! boost isn't the problem: /nix/store/vqc58c85wih3gcxpv8jn8n456b5m77da-gcc-6.4.0/include/c++/6.4.0/cstdlib:75:25: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #28747: nodePackages.ocaml-language-server: init at 0.2.0 (master...nodePackages.ocaml-language-server) https://git.io/v5C12
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<disasm> looks like someone else had that problem and just overrode the gcc version, is that a proper fix or should I keep digging? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L544
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra closed pull request #1540: 1.11: Replace stat / uid comparison with test -O (1.11-maintenance...test-o) https://git.io/v5coE
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<FRidh> does anyone have firefox working with java?
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<FRidh> ahh
<FRidh> Starting with Firefox Version 52 (released in March 2017), Firefox has limited support for plug-ins, and therefore will not run Java
<gchristensen> FRidh: for work, I have an old windows VM I use for java :/
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<FRidh> gchristensen: alright. Any suggestions what to do with cisco webex?
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<FRidh> gchristensen: oh good idea, I still have a windows vm here :)
<gchristensen> :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28748: ardour: build with gcc5 (master...ardour) https://git.io/v5C9z
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: ping
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/598c6f4d37 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28724: gargoyle: 2017-05-17 -> 2017-08-27 (master...gargoyle-2017-08-27) https://git.io/v5cy9
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<michaelpj> FRidh: I have a docker container set up to run an old (and 32bit!) version of firefox just for webex. Horrible, but so is webex
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<disasm> if a package has compilation errors related to gcc 6 becoming the default, is it a valid solution to just change it to use gcc 5?
<clever> or patch the source to not have errors and send it upstream
<fpletz> disasm: this typically cause all reverse dependencies to be also built with gcc5… so only as a last resort
<sphalerite> disasm: I'd consider it valid but not sustainable. What clever said is obviously a better solution
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<sphalerite> fpletz: really?
<clever> fpletz: i dont think that would happen
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] florianjacob opened pull request #28749: nixos/piwik: Adjust to recent NixOS changes, use nginx's virtualHost instead of replicating (master...piwik-improve-config) https://git.io/v5CQB
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<fpletz> sphalerite: clever: depends on the package and if overriding the stdenv is needed
<fpletz> like: stdenv = overrideCC stdenv gcc5
<clever> but overriding the stdenv passed to one package wont change the stdenv given to all of its deps
<fpletz> right
<fpletz> ok, not every dependency, sorry :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] unaizalakain opened pull request #28750: jrnl: support journal encryption by default (master...jrnl-encryption) https://git.io/v5CQD
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<disasm> when using nix-shell to debug build failures, is there an automated way to get and unpack the source? or just run wget/tar?
<gchristensen> eval "${unpackPhase}" I think?
<clever> i think that only works if you have a custom unpackPhase
<clever> and if you dont, its just unpackPhase
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<disasm> gchristensen: so I did nix-shell -A <package> in nixpkgs, but env|grep Phase doesn't show unpackPhase
<clever> disasm: try set | grep Phase
<disasm> ah, there's all my phases :)
<clever> there are bash functions that act as defaults
<clever> and when you override a function, it creates a variable, of the same name as the function
<clever> and stdenv picks the var over the function
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0eb90a42a3 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)
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<domenkozar> gchristensen: pong
<gchristensen> domenkozar: PM?
<domenkozar> yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cillianderoiste pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5Cd2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 261386a Cillian de Róiste: Calf: fix homepage
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0bb2d31 Cillian de Róiste: Calf: use gcc5 to fix the build...
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<disasm> a lotta removing != NULL from streamio checks :)
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<slabity> I'm trying to get a nix-shell with haskell and the parsec lib, but it keeps saying "Could not find module 'Text.Parsec'". My shell is `nix-shell -p haskell.packages.ghc821.parsec`, anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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<disasm> if anyone has any suggestions on what I can do to make https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/28748 work with gcc6 I'd appreciate it :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28751: xplanet: gcc6 patch (master...xplanet) https://git.io/v5CNM
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<disasm> success :) Well, gotta get some work done, but I'll just pick random failures from 28643 and try to fix them as I have time
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<nvd> Hi! I've got an issue where I'm trying to nix-build something that relies on webkitgtk and nix is saying "... is marked as insecure, refusing to evaluate" and then gives me something I can add to my config.nix
<nvd> I've added that and it's still showing that message
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5Chw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 029f40a Samuel Leathers: xplanet: gcc6 patch
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 596daff Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #28751 from disassembler/xplanet...
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<disasm> nvd: can you gist the nix file?
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<nvd> disasm: my config.nix? Yeah
<disasm> nvd: I meant what your trying to build, if it's in nixpkgs, just give the command you used.
<nvd> Oh, I'm afraid I can't
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<disasm> someone want to check xplanet off in this list: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/28643
<nvd> disasm: it depends on haskellPackages.ghcjs and a bunch of Haskell libraries but unfortunately it's internal at work
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<nvd> Sorry I can't say more :(
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<__Sander__> hmm
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<kiloreux> How can I get the hash of a docker image. I can't find any related tool at nix-prefet-* ?
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<copumpkin> goibhniu: you know anything about chromedriver on macOS? I see support for it in there but it doesn't seem to actually work
<hodapp> kiloreux: is said image still just a file?
<kiloreux> It's an alpine image. So it's kind of a git thing as you can see here https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/blob/master/library/alpine
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5Wf0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4ef4a17 Michael Raskin: nilfs-utils: fix build...
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* goibhniu tries to remember if chromedriver expects some funny environment variable or something
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WJf
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b8538c6 Dan Peebles: chromedriver: fix on Darwin...
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<goibhniu> copumpkin: I haven't used it in years ... but FWIW I see I had a symlink in /usr/bin/ to chromium called "chrome". I haven't used it on macOS.
<copumpkin> I see
<copumpkin> it should probably depend on chromium explicitly, eh
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<goibhniu> that may well have been for a python module which specifies the paths though
<copumpkin> ah
<goibhniu> which I had installed outside of nixpkgs
<copumpkin> yeah I don't actually know how it works
<copumpkin> it definitely doesn't seem to depend explicitly on chromium, but perhaps the zip already includes relevant parts?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v5WJg
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 822a8d0 John Ericson: cc-wrapper: Remove redundant hardening...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 97a4883 John Ericson: mkDerivation, cc-wrapper: Check hardening flag validity in Nix...
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<goibhniu> IIRC it can optionally be built with chromium
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cillianderoiste pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WJH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 28856eb Cillian de Róiste: Lmms: fix homepage URL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5b70a2f Cillian de Róiste: lmms: use gcc5...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 769c44d Cillian de Róiste: mixxx: patch to build with gcc6 (via debian)...
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<copumpkin> cool, I guess I'll play with it :)
<copumpkin> thanks
<goibhniu> good luck!
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<goibhniu> disasm: not sure if this helps ... but I see an ardour gcc6 patch here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/275431902/ardour_1%3A4.7~dfsg-1_1%3A4.7~dfsg-2.diff.gz
<disasm> goibhniu: nice! checking
<goibhniu> AFAICT ardour build their own binaries with gcc5
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<dtzWill> disasm: comment left on issue, hope that helps
<dtzWill> unfortunately neutered my laptop for some benchmarking (disabled turbo, HT, etc.) so compilation to confirm is taking forever :S fingers crossed
<dtzWill> but not sure why glibc would be useful on buildInputs anyway, cc-wrapper should include its library path automagically anyway
<dtzWill> hmm well that patch might be useful anyway, but don't think it would help/hurt the problem encountered during configure
<dtzWill> probably fixes some compilation error mid-build re: incorrect usage of math functions or so
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5Wkm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e36afa8 Michael Raskin: gfan: 0.5 -> 0.6; #28643
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<dtzWill> i'm gonna be sad if this ardour compile fails b/c of --
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<dtzWill> disasm: success! \o/
<dtzWill> ٩(^ᴗ^)۶
<mbrock> hmm, how can I debug what binary cache URLs that `nix-env -i` is trying? For some reason my custom channel's binary cache isn't being used
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WIM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3d107c1 Mikael Brockman: solc: v0.4.13 -> v0.4.16 (#28732)...
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<disasm> dtzWill: are you submitting a PR for that, or you want me to alter mine?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28752: xbase: gcc6/gcc7 patches (master...xbase) https://git.io/v5Wqg
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<disasm> dtzWill: yup, removing glibc from buildInputs works. Why is that?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #27691: notmuch-addrlookup: fix build with notmuch 0.25 (master...notmuch-0.25) https://git.io/v7ZPh
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #28753: vidalia: fix build with gcc6 (master...vidalia-fix-build) https://git.io/v5WYO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28621: ipfs improvements (master...ipfs) https://git.io/v5sYV
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<disasm> dtzWill: that's a patch for 4.7. Guessing it's fixed upstream in 5.x already because it compiles just fine.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28746: tests: fix ipfs test, test actual networking functionality (master...ipfstest) https://git.io/v5CXC
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WOm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 078abc3 Samuel Leathers: xbase: gcc6/gcc7 patches
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ee34c2e Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #28752 from disassembler/xbase...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28741: Gitlab runner improve (master...gitlab-runner-improve) https://git.io/v5Cgm
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<ryantrinkle1> does anyone have advice on how to write a nicely-documented nix module?
<ryantrinkle1> in particular, how to make something that is reasonably easy to keep up to date, and also allows people to understand the interface without having to trudge through the whole implementation
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] matthewbauer opened pull request #1543: OS X sandbox: Store .sb file in $TMPDIR rather than the Nix store (1.11-maintenance...1.11-maintenance) https://git.io/v5Wst
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<disasm> fpletz: is this an acceptable commit message for these fixes: <pkg>: fix build with gcc6
<gchristensen> sure
<fpletz> disasm: jup :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28754: sword: fix build with gcc6 (master...sword) https://git.io/v5WsM
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WGu
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c91e32 Tim Steinbach: linux-copperhead: 4.12.9.a -> 4.12.10.a
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<dtzWill> disasm: sorry for disappearing, meetings and such--by all means make the change if you don't mind, I can get to it in a bit if you'd prefer :)
<disasm> dtzWill: already done :)
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<disasm> dtzWill: just didn't want to steal the credit if you wanted it :)
<dtzWill> disasm: don't rem, was lookking at the build failure with NIX_DEBUG and something in my brain said "is glibc on build inputs" I guess from tackling this before. I don't remember the concrete details, I think it'll come down to something like "-isystem ${glibc}" causing those headers to be used and then getting confused when #include_next
<dtzWill> that whole mess isn't really worth thinking about too much IMO it's a big trash fire of kludgery
<dtzWill> :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WZR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fa5e343 Grant Wu: deluge: 1.3.13 -> 1.3.15...
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<dtzWill> disasm: appreciate the sentiment, thanks for asking, and thanks for submitting it ^_^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WnN
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1f0d6f1 Samuel Leathers: ardour: fix build with gcc6
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<dtz> Another bug bits the dust!
<dtz> Duh duh duh another bug bites the dust!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28661: ixgbevf: 4.1.2 -> 4.2.1 (master...ixgbevf_4_2_1) https://git.io/v5Zcs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WcB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d36b34 Tim Steinbach: rtl8723bs: 2016-04-11 -> 2017-04-06
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c38b8ab Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #28654 from NeQuissimus/rtl8723bs_2017_04_06...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WcE
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c9be778 Tim Steinbach: rtlwifi_new: 2016-09-12 -> 2017-07-18
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a28c62d Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #28653 from NeQuissimus/rtlwifi_new_2017_07_18...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5Wca
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4f3b8c5 Tim Steinbach: evdi: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.1+git2017-06-12
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e269e9d Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #28651 from NeQuissimus/evdi_1_4_1_master...
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<andrewrk> dtz, hahaha
<gchristensen> killing it, dtz!
<andrewrk> unrelated: when I boot windows in virtualbox, it crashes and then restarts. anyone else seen this behavior?
<andrewrk> it was working a few months ago
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28457: openldap: Fix build with LibreSSL. (staging...openldap-fix-libressl-2) https://git.io/v5UdZ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mdorman opened pull request #28755: Semi-automated Emacs package updates (master...emacs-updates) https://git.io/v5WCX
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<globin> cstrahan: ping
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra closed pull request #1543: OS X sandbox: Store .sb file in $TMPDIR rather than the Nix store (1.11-maintenance...1.11-maintenance) https://git.io/v5Wst
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<otwieracz> Hello.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir closed pull request #28747: nodePackages.ocaml-language-server: init at 0.2.0 (master...nodePackages.ocaml-language-server) https://git.io/v5C12
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28756: pulseview and sigrok updates (master...pulseview-sigrok) https://git.io/v5Wle
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28432: 389-ds-base: 1.3.5.17 -> 1.3.5.19 (master...389_ds_base_1_3_5_19) https://git.io/v5fSw
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28378: programs.zsh: move evlauation of `${zshAliases}` after `cfg.interactiveShellInit` (master...fix-zshrc-eval-order) https://git.io/v5eLz
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<otwieracz> Some time ago I was trying to use NixOS on workstation – the main problem I ran into was when one software needed another. Like, for example, emacs and SBCL - both have nixpkg, but I was unable to start SBCL from emacs - because of obvious reason, the filesystem was separate for those packages. I ended up doing some weird things with „environments”, with `nix-shell` starting bash using specially
<otwieracz> crafted `default.nix`… has been this solved anyhow?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to 1.11-maintenance: https://git.io/v5W8e
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/1.11-maintenance b3a616e Eelco Dolstra: Bump version
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<disasm> nox-review pr is just amazing :)
<disasm> don't know how I've gone 6 months without using that...
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<dtzWill> TIL "nix" is apparently a "her" :P https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_vs._Linux_Standard_Base
<dtzWill> ..."under her control"...
<simpson> dtzWill: Nyx was a Greek mythological figure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyx_(mythology)
<dieggsy> I'm trying to follow this year old post https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/4btjnf/fully_setting_up_a_custom_private_nix_repository/ to set up a custom packages repo (more specifically, so i can make an emacs HEAD package), but i'm getting something about "anonymous function called without required argument 'libXaw' at ".../nixpkgs/lib/customisation.nix:72:!2". anyone know what that's about?
<dtzWill> simpson: (!) interesting
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<ToxicFrog> dieggsy: that probably means you have a file starting with (e.g.) `{ lib, stdenv, libX11, libXaw, libfoo, ... }: { ...stuff goes here... }` and however you're invoking it doesn't pass libXaw to it
<ToxicFrog> Note that libXaw is pkgs.xorg.libXaw, not pkgs.libXaw
<ToxicFrog> So if you're depending on it your signature will include { xorg } and then you'll list [ xorg.libXaw ] as a dependency.
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<olejorgenb[m]> take a look on how emacs is composed in all-packages if you want to stay close to nixpkgs
<dieggsy> ToxicFrog: the file is the package itself, i basically copied over the default.nix from the default emacs package in nixpkgs
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<dieggsy> i tweaked a few things, but declaration is mostly the same
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<dieggsy> (i basically only changed version and src)
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<olejorgenb[m]> dieggsy: in all-packages.nix: `emacs25 = callPackage the-path { libXaw = xorg.libXaw ... };`
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<dieggsy> Oh, I see
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<clever> dieggsy: there is also xorg.callPackage, which passes in the attributes of xorg first
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #28758: thumbor: fix build (master...thumbor-fix-build) https://git.io/v5W0U
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<joepie91> dtzWill: hmm, the explanation on that page is not quite right
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<joepie91> will have a look at fixing that at some later time
<joepie91> (packages files aren't installed into a profile)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28758: thumbor: fix build (master...thumbor-fix-build) https://git.io/v5W0U
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<dieggsy> How can I import definitions in all-packages.nix?
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<dieggsy> olejorgenb[m]: for example xorg is undefined in my default.nix, but in order to define it i need all this other stuff
<dieggsy> so it would be useful to be able to import those definitions
<disasm> dieggsy: just add what olejorgenb[m] said above to that file
<dieggsy> disasm: i did?
<dieggsy> Orrrrr not
<dieggsy> hold on
<dieggsy> no yes, i did
<dieggsy> xorg is undefined though
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #28759: k9copy: fix build with gcc6 (master...k9copy) https://git.io/v5WzJ
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<olejorgenb[m]> dieggsy: It's probably simplest to base the custom repo on nixpkgs and do a `with import <nixpkgs> {};` first in the file?
<olejorgenb[m]> (disclaimer: haven't read the reddit post description)
<disasm> dieggsy: you put it inside the with pkgs attrset, right?
<disasm> dieggsy: I'd prbly copy the emacs25 line and put it right below it with your package instead of the one listed for the path.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] luispedro opened pull request #28760: pythonPackages.jug: 1.4.0 -> 1.6.1 (master...update_jug161) https://git.io/v5Wzw
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<dieggsy> disasm, olejorgenb[m]: this is what i have https://git.io/v5WzP
<dieggsy> This is in a directory completely separate to the actual nixpkgs one
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<dieggsy> disasm: i did pretty much copy the emacs25 line, the issue is it uses stuff defined previously in all-packages.nix
<disasm> dieggsy: pkgs.xorg.libXaw
<tnks> I've been running Nix in a Docker container as root... and just got bitten by an application that tried to write a change back to /nix/store... and succeeded.
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<tnks> so now I'm working on putting the environment in Docker into multi-user mode with nix-daemon. I got it working... but I chose to base my installation of Nix on top of Alpine, and just to go for gold, I tried to turn on sandboxed builds.
<tnks> but it didn't work.
<dieggsy> disasm: ah thanks. well, now it's complaining about being called without libXpm even though the declaration in default.nix is basically the same and i'm calling it the same way. odd
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0371f2b Robin Gloster: nginx module: clean up SSL/listen handling
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 530282e Franz Pletz: nginx module: fix applying recommended proxy headers...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 65c2203 Franz Pletz: nginx module: add option for proxying websocket requests
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<kiloreux> I am having a weird issue
<Nobabs27[m]> ok
<kiloreux> I am using nix with docker
<kiloreux> if I build the image with docker and then load it. I can access everything correctly
<tnks> cloning builder process: Operation not permitted (my error message for the problem above)
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<kiloreux> but if I include specific command that uses networking interface like ping. The build will fail.
<kiloreux> Which is confusing --'
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6d4bd78 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge commit '2858c41' into HEAD
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<dieggsy> Ah, i think i got it, maybe
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28563: pango: fix pango_default_break function (master...fix-perl-gtk2) https://git.io/v5YRS
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<olejorgenb[m]> dieggsy: hm, I see that the emacs package take a bunch of other xorg packages - not sure why it works in all-packages actually.
<olejorgenb[m]> ah, what did you do?
<dieggsy> olejorgenb[m]: I've got other issues in the derivation now, but the issue i was having was resolved by using pkgs.callPackage instead of my own definition of callPackage
<dieggsy> so thanks all :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #28761: youtube-dl: 2017.08.23 -> 2017.08.27 (master...yt-dl-2017-08) https://git.io/v5W23
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch closed pull request #28761: youtube-dl: 2017.08.23 -> 2017.08.27 (master...yt-dl-2017-08) https://git.io/v5W23
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<fresheyeball> offlinehacker[m]: Poke
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] teh opened pull request #28762: Fix https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/6678 (staging...systemd-temp-fix) https://git.io/v5W26
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<kiloreux> I include specific command that uses networking interface like ping inside my docker runAsRoot. The build will fail. Anyone has an idea why?
<clever> kiloreux: all network is disabled in builds
<clever> kiloreux: runAsRoot runs the command in a qemu vm, so you can create files owned by uid 0
<kiloreux> :/
<simpson> kiloreux: What are you building?
<clever> if you want to download files, you need to use things like fetchurl
<kiloreux> just trying to update my alpine image "apk update"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5War
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0f0bf06 Vladimír Čunát: wyrd: fixup by using older ncurses...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c07e9ba Vladimír Čunát: squishyball: fixup by using older ncurses
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6b95cf6 Vladimír Čunát: Merge: fixups to staging merge...
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<kiloreux> Really wanted to use nix for that one :(
<kiloreux> So i have no way to execute commands that require network inside runAsRoot ?
<disasm> kiloreux: what commands are you trying to run?
<kiloreux> "/sbin/apk update" << That't it.
<disasm> kiloreux: oh, yeah, that won't work
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<kiloreux> Isn't this one a clear disadvantage for supporting docker inside nix? (from analytical perspective, ignoring my use case)
<clever> the docker builds are still pure, just like every other nix build
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<clever> so your output can only ever use inputs that where hashed by nix
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/v5WVI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 3e50f0a teh: systemd: add patch to fix suspend.target
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<kiloreux> I understand the nix philosophy for this. It was just a thought I had if nix wants to support the docker building process fully
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28760: pythonPackages.jug: 1.4.0 -> 1.6.1 (master...update_jug161) https://git.io/v5Wzw
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<simpson> To paraphrase a famous philosopher, "Why should we change? Docker's the one that sucks."
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<pxc> Nix builds don't _have_ to be sandboxed, and then they can access the network, right? Do our Docker tools impose additional constraints?
<simpson> More concretely, Nix is meant to replace your other package managers, not enable them.
<kiloreux> Nice, how can it do that :D ?
<kiloreux> I am a big fan of nix and have been using it for the last 3 months or so <3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WVR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c999094 Robin Gloster: errbot: 4.2.2 -> 4.3.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6b9ca45 Tristan Helmich: errbot: remove pyside dependency
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8211dfb Robin Gloster: errbot: 4.3.3 -> 5.1.2
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<simpson> Inside Docker, you can `FROM nixos/nix`. I personally use `FROM lnl7/nix`. You can eventually work up to using dockerTools, once you are 100% built from a Nix expression: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-pkgs-dockerTools
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WV6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d99d902 Samuel Leathers: k9copy: fix build with gcc6
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WVP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1e5128f Ambroz Bizjak: kdevelop: 5.1.1 -> 5.1.2
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<LnL> my docker image actually also uses the dockerTools
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28755: Semi-automated Emacs package updates (master...emacs-updates) https://git.io/v5WCX
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<simpson> LnL: What's the intended way of using your image? I've been using nix-env.
<LnL> to build that image I mean
<LnL> if you don't use nix-build/nix-env inside the container you don't need that image :)
<simpson> Aha.
<simpson> I want to be using only dockerTools, but Docker's a little flaky when it comes to loading Nix-built images.
<LnL> howso?
<simpson> It just is. I've had multiple experiences where I'm convinced that I've got everything right and Docker will vomit all over me.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 46e41da Linus Heckemann: cron service: fix reliance on etc.timezone...
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<simpson> So some of my containers, as I'm building them, are made from Dockerfiles. So it goes.
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<LnL> do you mean the docker load part or something else?
<simpson> $ docker run ...
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<LnL> never had problems with that unless my build was wrong
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<phdoerfler> Infinisil: I just came across https://github.com/r-raymond/nixos-mailserver/pull/3 and I was like I know this guy :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #28764: nodePackages.ocaml-language-server: init at 0.2.0 (master...nodePackages.ocaml-language-server) https://git.io/v5Wo1
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d9a0c68 Piotr Bogdan: hhvm: fix build...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 51c247a Piotr Bogdan: hhvm: 3.15.0 -> 3.15.8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 80351ad Piotr Bogdan: hhvm: 3.15.8 -> 3.21
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e2bf8ce dywedir: nodePackages.ocaml-language-server: init at 0.2.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #28754: sword: fix build with gcc6 (master...sword) https://git.io/v5WsM
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<bobvanderlinden> what is the recommended way to use autoupgrade with nixops?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a8f0b18 Robin Gloster: errbot: add glibcLocales to buildInputs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master de31f87 Robin Gloster: release documentation: update to current procedure
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] afrepues opened pull request #28765: Gitlab 8.17.8 and fix build phase (master...gitlab-8.17.8-and-fix-build-phase) https://git.io/v5WXr
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] afrepues closed pull request #28641: gitlab: fix permission issue in build phase (release-17.03...fix/28494-gitlab-deb-setuid-permission-problem) https://git.io/v5G5T
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] afrepues closed pull request #28644: gitlab: 8.17.6 -> 8.17.8 (release-17.03...gitlab-8.17.8-release-17.03) https://git.io/v5GdD
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #28749: nixos/piwik: Adjust to recent NixOS changes, use nginx's virtualHost instead of replicating [WIP] (master...piwik-improve-config) https://git.io/v5CQB
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<taktoa> !m gchristensen
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, gchristensen!
<gchristensen> what for? :o
<taktoa> HSTS :)
<gchristensen> oh! thanks!
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<aanderse-laptop> anyone have a real working example of a simple web server setup with something like drupal and letsencrypt?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5W1b
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6f2fffe Franz Pletz: mbedtls: 2.5.1 -> 2.6.0 for CVE-2017-14032...
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<touchit> Does anyone know how to get a finger touch screen working with NixOS?
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<touchit> Here is a thread with a fuller diagnosis of my issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/6x22z0/enabling_touch_screen/
<JosW> Something stange happening, i changed my configuration.nix and a rebuild-switch
<JosW> didn't like the change and after a reboot choose the generation before my change
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #28766: gettext: libiconv should be a buildInput (staging...gettext) https://git.io/v5WDu
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<disasm> aanderse-laptop: not drupal, but cleaning up some stuff I have with caddy (removing creds, etc..) will gist soon
<JosW> now there is still the adjustment I made in the configuration.nix
<gchristensen> JosW: the configuration.nix itself isn't rolled back
<aanderse-laptop> disasm: awesome, would love to see it
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz tagged 17.09-beta at 46d837d: https://git.io/v5WDo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/17.09-beta 6a7066e Franz Pletz: release documentation: reorder beta steps
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WDi
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6a7066e Franz Pletz: release documentation: reorder beta steps
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<gchristensen> !!!!!!!!
<JosW> gchristensen: that is strange, if I forgot about this change and after 2 days do a rebuild-switch I still get something I don't want?
<florianjacob> aanderse-laptop: I extracted the relevant parts from the piwik module so it's easier to read, hope it helps somewhat. That's nginx + php-fpm. https://pastebin.com/tJ6gyjFh
<taktoa> huh, haven't seen this before https://github.com/adnelson/nixfromnpm
<gchristensen> JosW: it is because it was still in your configuration.nix
<gchristensen> and having nix roll back your configuration.nix is a really difficult problem we haven't found a solution to yet
<aanderse-laptop> disasm: does this use letsencrypt? i don't see the acme bit
<aanderse-laptop> florianjacob: thanks!
<disasm> aanderse-laptop: yup!
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<disasm> oh wait
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<disasm> no, that's my internal lan cert, one sec
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<JosW> gchristensen: then what does a rollback do?
<olejorgenb[m]> JosW: There is https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#system.copysystemconfiguration - It just store configuration.nix (nb - only this file) though - not restore it
<gchristensen> it rolls back your system configuration
<aanderse-laptop> ok great thanks all
<gchristensen> ie: the one that is applied to your system, but not the source of it
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<olejorgenb[m]> JosW: the whole system is actually a derivation too. `/run/current-system` links to the one active.
<olejorgenb[m]> So `nix-store --query --requisites /run/current-system` will list all derivations needed for the active system
<olejorgenb[m]> that can be handy if you want to check out the content of certain configuration files that isn't symlinked in /etc
<disasm> aanderse-laptop: that ones probly better example. wordpress site
<tnks> in case anyone read my question above, the solution was just to run the nix-daemon container in Docker's "--privilege" mode.
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<tnks> which I think in retrospect makes sense to do a chroot.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/v5WSG
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 82c301e Franz Pletz: Update channel and version for 17.09 beta
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<gchristensen> fpletz: want me to send the PR for nixos-org-configuartions?
<gchristensen> yeah that one :)
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<gchristensen> how about a hydra job?
<dtzWill> 17.09 beta?? eeeeeeee
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 2cc7f1a John Ericson: gettext: libiconv should be a buildInput
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 22cd889 John Ericson: Merge pull request #28766 from obsidiansystems/gettext...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5W9W
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5d5be97 Franz Pletz: Impala makes packaging a life-long addiction...
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<fpletz> NixOS 18.03 will be called Impala :)
<gchristensen> lmao
<gchristensen> nice choice fpletz
<LnL> heh
<fpletz> impalas are even in the same family as gnus :)
<makefu> fpletz: impaler? now thats hardcore
<fpletz> vlad?
<fpletz> :P
<makefu> yes, that is what i thought of
<globin> That recursive acronym <3
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<JosW> gchristensen: Thinking hard about what you wrote about the configuration not being rolledback
<JosW> somehow I don't get it
<JosW> Isn't is possible to combine the configuration.nix with a zfs or NILFS2 filesystem?
<gchristensen> sure, but the important part is that the configuration.nix doesn't represent the applied config
<gchristensen> if you rm configuration.nix your config doesnn't magically change
<gchristensen> it is the input to nixos-rebuild which builds your system
<gchristensen> if you roll back, /etc/nixos is left alone for you to fix or whatever
<gchristensen> rolling back your system doesn't necessarily mean you want to lose your changes to configuration.nix
<JosW> Ah got it
<sphalerite> JosW: yes, zfs is a nice option. Never heard of NILFS2. But better than that is keeping your configuration.nix and associated files under version control
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<JosW> sphalerite: thanks, learning everyday
<sphalerite> :)
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<viaken> Protip: When you forget to/don't change fetchurl's sha256, you'll still be trying to build the old version. Likewise, if you use that sha on a new expression, that expression will build whatever package the sha refers to.
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<gchristensen> yes! a trap :(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 3 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/v5WQV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 a146db7 Franz Pletz: mbedtls: 2.4.0 -> 2.4.2...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 577cc74 Franz Pletz: mbedtls: 2.4.2 -> 2.5.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 d76cd1a Franz Pletz: mbedtls: 2.5.1 -> 2.6.0 for CVE-2017-14032...
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<LnL> yeah, you can usually do something like nix-build -A hello.src --check to verify it's actually correct
<tokudan[m]> does someone have experience with building openwrt or gluon on nixos? I'm trying to build it and get some errors in 17.03 that I cannot figure out, while in 16.03 it works just fine
<fpletz> tokudan[m]: already tried and failed… used a debian container instead :(
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<tokudan[m]> fpletz: well, it works with the 16.03.nix in nix-shell from my gist that imports the 16.03 release nix channel... but not with the 17.03
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<florianjacob> Anybody here knowing their way around mkDefault? I could need some input on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/28749#pullrequestreview-59686168
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5WFL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b09ab58 Robin Gloster: vidalia: remove...
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<copumpkin> anyone have thoughts on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/28729/files?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #28753: vidalia: fix build with gcc6 (master...vidalia-fix-build) https://git.io/v5WYO
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<copumpkin> wondering in particular about my override propagation
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #28769: misc: Adjust Perl dependencies (staging...perl-precision) https://git.io/v5WFP
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<pop> Anybody know why when I download a static binary (go 1.9) I get "bash: ./bin/go: No such file or directory"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 3 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v5WFS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging c4f1890 Daiderd Jordan: darwin: move definition to separate file
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 3979f48 Daiderd Jordan: darwin: add callPackage
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 8c09e20 Daniel Peebles: Merge pull request #28767 from LnL7/darwin-cleanup...
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<copumpkin> pop: maybe it still contains a reference to ld.so?
<copumpkin> pop: run readelf or objdump over it
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/v5WFj
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 fe9170c Robin Gloster: vidalia: remove...
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<Judson> Using Neovim, and having occasional problems with remote python modules.
<Judson> e.g. I'd like to use lldb.nvim, and I get
<Judson> Encountered ImportError loading plugin at /home/judson/.config/nvim/plugged/lldb.nvim/rplugin/python/lldb_nvim: No module named _lldb
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #28770: cc-wrapper, binutils-wrapper: Remove wrapper hooks (staging...remove-wrapper-hooks) https://git.io/v5WbO
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<pop> copumpkin: installing now.
<Judson> Do I need to overlay Neovim to add extraPackages?
<tokudan[m]> it seems that the nix gcc automatically adds some hardening options. is there any way to disable that in a nix-shell?
<dtzWill> tokudan[m]: export hardeningDisable=all
<tokudan[m]> hmm... i hope that the build environment doesn't clear all variable
<pop> I went down a rabbit hole and now I get this error: "warning: Nix search path entry ‘nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos-unstable’ does not exist, ignoring" how do I fix this error?
<dtzWill> tokudan[m]: nix-shell's "--pure" makes it remove more things, otherwise it's mostly additive
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<tokudan[m]> dtzWill: not talking about nix-shell but the gluon/openwrt build system... that seems to do some cleaning, but i'm testing it right now
<dtzWill> oh, haha, indeed. It's not hard to create a wrapper that doesn't have hardening auto-add bits if that's useful
<pop> I think I'm trying to reset my nix search path. not sure how to do this...
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<dtzWill> fwiw since I mentioned it, if your wrapped cc is 'gcc', then: gcc.override { extraBuildCommands = ": > $out/nix-support/add-hardening.sh"; }
<dtzWill> auto-hardening is great for packaging, less so for compiler testing or other careful compiler invocations :)
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<tokudan[m]> dtzWill: yep, i haven't finished building a full firmware yet, but the build has progressed further than before now, so I guess this hardening was the problem
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<pop> Please help. "I have no idea how I got here: building the system configuration... \n warning: Nix search path entry ‘nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos-unstable’ does not exist, ignoring \n error: file ‘nixpkgs/nixos’ was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I)"
<pop> That happens when I run `sudo nixos-rebuild dry-run` on nixos.
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<07IAAYBG7> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v5WA5
<07IAAYBG7> nixpkgs/master 80319c1 Dan Peebles: terraform: manage 0.10 plugins with Nix...
<07IAAYBG7> nixpkgs/master b291ead Daniel Peebles: Merge pull request #28729 from copumpkin/terraform-plugins...
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<3NAABFUWA> [nixpkgs] copumpkin closed pull request #28729: terraform: provide plugins for 0.10 (master...terraform-plugins) https://git.io/v5cpD
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<tokudan[m]> pop: sounds like you need to run nix-channel --update as root
<pop> tokudan[m]: which channels should I have if I want to go back to stable 17.03?
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<tokudan[m]> pop: just this one: nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-17.03 nixos
<tokudan[m]> pop run that as root
<tokudan[m]> pop: then nixos-rebuild
<tokudan[m]> pop: if you dont want to use other channels you can remove them, if you have any (nix-channel --list)
<pop> tokudan[m]: At the end of the output for `nix-channel --update` it says "warning: Nix search path entry ‘nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos-unstable’ does not exist, ignoring"
<pop> Err, sudo nix-channel --update
<tokudan[m]> pop: what does sudo nix-channel --list display?
<pop> and the output of `sudo nix-channel --list` is "nixos https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-17.03"
<pop> tokudan[m]: I am confused...
<tokudan[m]> that should be ok
<tokudan[m]> i don't know about the error though
<tokudan[m]> and the rebuild does not work?
<pop> hmm. sudo nixos-rebuild dry-run still errors tokudan[m]
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<tokudan[m]> don't know... there's probably an easy solution to that but i don't have much experience and don't want to "play" with your system
<tokudan[m]> you could try a nix-channel --rollback
<tokudan[m]> not sure if that would work
<pop> Ah, I rolled back a bunch and the error finally went away.
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<pop> But the nixos-rebuild error persists...
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<tokudan[m]> then I don't know
<pop> Thanks for the help tokudan[m].
<pop> Rolling back my whole system also seems to be working. This package manager is so fucking cool.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v5Wp3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 11753b3 Dan Peebles: terraform: noop 0.10 plugins mechanism when unused
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<tokudan[m]> fpletz: here's a nix-shell to build gluon: https://github.com/tokudan/freifunk.nix
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<pop> copumpkin: If it was requesting ld.so what should I do to fix the issue?
<copumpkin> patchelf
<copumpkin> --set-interpreter or something like that
<copumpkin> you'll find the Nix one inside the glibc package
<copumpkin> I don't recall specifics but nixpkgs is full of examples
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<pop> copumpkin: So am I editing the binary or just making a symlink?
<pop> I'll dig around...
<copumpkin> editing the binary
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<pop> Gross.
<copumpkin> :)
<copumpkin> you can also run the interpreter directly against it, but if the binary is hardcoded to ask for /lib64
<copumpkin> and we don't have /lib64, I don't know what else to do :)
<pop> I tried looking at how the go 1.8 package does things, it's not very comprehensible. I'll hack around this until I muster the energy to "do it right"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #28771: mpvScripts.convert: fix for mpv >0.26.0 (master...mpv-convert-fix) https://git.io/v5Wj2
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch closed pull request #28771: mpvScripts.convert: fix for mpv >0.26.0 (master...mpv-convert-fix) https://git.io/v5Wj2
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