#nixos on 2017-08-13

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00:01 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #28219: portaudio: 19-20140130 -> 190600-20161030, add jack (master...portaudio) https://git.io/v7H2w

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00:11 <srhb> After a rather failed repartitioning adventure, I'm wondering what step I missed. I usually define nixPath (specifically nixpkgs) in configuration.nix but this doesn't seem to apply to nix-env. What do I need to do to make it so? I've clearly forgotten.

00:12 <srhb> (I don't use channels, I point nixpkgs at a git checkout)

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00:14 <srhb> I would normally expect nix-env to obey $NIX_PATH, but clearly that's insufficient.

00:14 <NickHu> Is fetchgit.fetchSubmodules broken now?

00:14 <srhb> (nix-env -qaP gives no results)

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00:15 <Nobabs25> how do I set xorg resolution in the config ?

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00:21 <bennofs> srhb: ~/.nix-defexpr

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00:24 <srhb> bennofs: Oh right. Symlink that to nixpkgs?

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00:24 <xd1le> So I updated nixos-unstable (and rebooted), and now my emacs seems to not follow my Xresources (i.e. it shows the menu, toolbar etc. even though I've disabled it in Xresources). Other Xresources settings seem to be set fine though. Was wondering if anyone knew anything about this?

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00:25 <bennofs> srhb: i think you need a symlink in that directory

00:25 <bennofs> srhb: like ln -s /nixpkgs ~/.nix-defexpr/nixpkgs

00:25 <bennofs> iirc

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00:27 <xd1le> (and I don't think the nix expression for emacs changed either, so I'm bit stumped :o )

00:27 <srhb> bennofs: Looks like symlinking nixpkgs to ~/.nix-defexprs is sufficient, thanks :)

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00:34 <lverns> does anyone here know how to *read* flags that are set by `nix-env --set-flag` ?

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00:40 <tilpner> lverns - They appear to just be parts of the meta attrset of a derivation. $ nix-env --query --meta --json -a shows attributes like priority, but that's only the CLI way to get to them

00:41 <tilpner> Maybe try accessing them with pkgs.something.meta.priority

00:41 <lverns> tilpner: thanks, I'll try those

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00:55 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ef026e02fc (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)

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00:58 <xd1le> submitted: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/28221

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01:25 <rnhmjoj[m]> `services.xserver.resolutions`

01:25 <gchristensen> Ankhers: ping me if you need help with docbook :)

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01:26 <Ankhers> gchristensen: Will do. I have found a couple things that I couldn't find in your current ports (lists, bold) but a quick google search fixed that.

01:27 <gchristensen> Ankhers: awesome :) people are scared of docbook, but after spending a few hours with it I think they're mostly biased against XML

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01:29 <Ankhers> gchristensen: I can understand that sentiment. I don't enjoy writing XML. I'm hoping that after a while I can figure out how to get emacs to do the "ugly" parts for me. Thanks for pointing out those command by the way. Helping out already.

01:30 <gchristensen> you're welcome, yeah they make it a lot nicer

01:30 <gchristensen> nxml is supposed to be really nice, so there is surely lots else it ca ndo

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02:02 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #28222: notmuch: 0.24.2 -> 0.25 (master...notmuch) https://git.io/v7HrQ

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02:25 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] RocketPuppy opened pull request #28224: Literate: init (master...add-literate) https://git.io/v7HoB

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03:01 <elvishjerricco> Anyone had much luck with NixOS containers? I'm trying to use one as a simple way to spin up an isolated local postgres instance. But I seem to lose the ability to even ping the container after a couple of minutes of idling.

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03:14 <gchristensen> Ankhers: great work on #3! I'll do some review in the morning :) thank you! :D

03:15 <Ankhers> gchristensen: Sounds good.

03:16 <gchristensen> Ankhers: overall, how did it go for you?

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03:19 <Ankhers> gchristensen: The process is easy enough. The hardest part was remembering the proper attributes to use for links (xlink:href vs linkend) and the combination of `<screen><xi:include /></screen`. But I created a snippet for the latter and I seem to just be flying through it now.

03:20 <gchristensen> awesome :) good to hear! about the same for me

03:20 <gchristensen> some things (my usage of docbook elements is evolving): some of your <literal>'s could be <command>s or <filename>s

03:21 <Ankhers> I can go through and switch those around.

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03:21 <Ankhers> I'm sure you saw it, but I also made a different PR for the build system.

03:21 <gchristensen> overall looks good, I've got to head to bed though. I'll do a more thorough review in the AM :)

03:22 <Ankhers> Sounds good. I should probably do the same.

03:22 <gchristensen> I sure did, also looked good

03:22 * gchristensen waves

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03:37 <Myrl-saki> I set my rpath to /lib/ but it still doesn't find the library, but it does if I use LD_LIBRARY_PATH

03:37 <Myrl-saki> Is this normal?

03:37 <Myrl-saki> (Exporting from Nix to a different OS)

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03:58 <clever> Myrl-saki: can you gist the logs it generates if you set the LD_DEBUG=all env var?

03:59 <Myrl-saki> clever: Oh right thanks. I forgot how to generate a "stack trace" lol

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04:02 <Myrl-saki> file=libc.musl-x86.so.1 [0]; needed by /lib/libz.so.1 [0]

04:02 <Myrl-saki> clever:

04:03 <Myrl-saki> clever: And they're both in the same directory..

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04:11 <elvishjerricco> Figured out my issue with nixos-containers. The NixOS manual says to add `networking.networkmanager.unmanaged = [ "interface-name:ve-*" ];`, and I didn't realize this was necessary for more than just allowing the container to access the internet. I need to learn more about networking =P

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04:25 <clever> Myrl-saki: when ld.so handles the requirements for libz, it will use the rpath on libz

04:25 <clever> Myrl-saki: does libz have /lib in its rpath?

04:26 <Myrl-saki> clever: Mhm.

04:26 <Myrl-saki> Does rpath mean relativepath?

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04:27 <clever> i dont think so

04:27 <Myrl-saki> clever: File directory is /lib{libz,musl}

04:27 <Myrl-saki> Err

04:28 <Myrl-saki> clever: File directory is /lib/{libz,musl}

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04:29 <nixos-users-wiki> "FAQ" edited by yater https://git.io/v7HiA

04:29 <clever> Myrl-saki: what does "patchelf --print-rpath /lib/libz.so.1" say?

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04:32 <Myrl-saki> clever: It has no rpath...

04:32 <Myrl-saki> That explains some things lol

04:32 <clever> Myrl-saki: and --print-interpreter on the main binary your using?

04:32 <Myrl-saki> clever: Oh. They're different interpreters.

04:32 <clever> i suspect that ld.so normally has a default search path, that nixpkgs turned off

04:32 <Myrl-saki> clever: One is by musl and one is by glibc

04:32 <Myrl-saki> Or somtehing.

04:32 <clever> so you need to use an unpatched ld.so

04:33 <Myrl-saki> Ah

04:33 <Myrl-saki> Just `ld-linux.so.2`

04:35 <Myrl-saki> Adding /lib to ld-linux.so.2's rpath gets me a segfault

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04:35 <clever> ld.so is a special binary

04:36 <clever> from what ive seen, ld.so is a dynamic executable without any interpreter set on it

04:36 <Myrl-saki> Yep

04:36 <clever> which is weird, i didnt think that elf worked like that

04:38 <Myrl-saki> Setting rpath breaks ld-linux lmao

04:38 <Myrl-saki> clever: I think the easiest fix is to set zlib's rpath.

04:38 <clever> i think its something that has to be compiled into the ld.so

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04:40 <Myrl-saki> clever: I should try using ld-musl as my interpreter

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04:41 <clever> bbl

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04:50 <rodarmor> Does anyone happen to know which package provides the `tic` binary? (The terminfo compiler.)

04:51 <rodarmor> I seem to have the `tic` man page installed, but can't find the binary :/

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04:58 <rodarmor> Found it, it's in the ncurses package, but looks like the package doesn't include the `bin` directory

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05:10 <nixos-users-wiki> "bitlbee" edited by yater https://git.io/v7HXI

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05:17 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] casey opened pull request #28226: ncurses: put tic binary in bin (master...ncurses-tic) https://git.io/v7HXG

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05:43 <rcschm> hi, i am trying to install HaRe in ghcWithPackages and i keep getting this error:

05:44 <rcschm> test/Main.hs:12:1: error: Failed to load interface for ‘Spec’

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05:45 <rcschm> is this nix specific or something to with with ghc dependencies? i tried bringing in hspec but that doesn't seem to solve anything.

05:45 <rcschm> tks for any help.

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06:00 <clever> rcschm: you must use ghcWithPackages to get ghc packages

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06:01 <clever> rcschm: https://github.com/arcane-chat/arcane-chat/blob/master/chat-shaker/default.nix#L4

06:01 <clever> rcschm: or indirectly use it, via the haskellPackages frameworks in nixpkgs

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06:15 <Myrl-saki> packageOverrides = pkgs: rec {

06:15 <Myrl-saki> webkitgtk = pkgs.webkitgtk216x;

06:15 <Myrl-saki> haskellPackages = pkgs.haskell.packages.${compiler}.override {

06:15 <Myrl-saki> I should have just pastebinned the whole source lol

06:15 <Myrl-saki> http://ix.io/z6C

06:16 <Myrl-saki> Why isn't the `webkitgtk` being applied to the succeeding override?

06:17 <clever> Myrl-saki: if you only want to affect one thing, you can insert it into the {} for its callPackage

06:17 <clever> foo = pkgs.callPackage ./foo.nix { bar = pkgs.bar123; };

06:17 <clever> now foo winds up getting bar123, when it asked for only bar

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06:18 <Myrl-saki> clever: I did that yet it still errors about broken package.

06:18 <clever> and if you follow the --show-trace output?

06:19 <Myrl-saki> while evaluating the attribute ‘propagatedBuildInputs’ of the derivation ‘reflex-dom-0.4’ at /etc/nixos/nixpkgs/pkgs/stdenv/generic/make-derivation.nix:85:11:

06:19 <Myrl-saki> clever: webkitgtk is an indirect dependency going straight to hackagelPackages.nix.

06:20 <Myrl-saki> If that makes it any different.

06:20 <Myrl-saki> clever: Oh wait. That's not exactly what I did. Sorry. Let me change some things.

06:22 <clever> 77527 }) {inherit (pkgs.gnome3) webkitgtk;};

06:22 <clever> hackage-packages.nix does things like this

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06:22 <Myrl-saki> clever: So... local cabal2nix?

06:23 <clever> might help

06:23 <Myrl-saki> I'll do your advice first.

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06:27 <Myrl-saki> Yep. Doing that doesn't typecheck.

06:27 <Myrl-saki> I'll just do local cabal2nix.

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06:32 <clever> brb

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06:47 <nixos-users-wiki> "FAQ" edited by yater https://git.io/v7HMM

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06:54 <srhb> Why is it that zpools are often organized as pool/root/rootmount, with pool and root having no mountpoints and rootmount being the third level

06:54 <srhb> I mean, couldn't I simply mount poolname as root?

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07:02 <ben> I dunno about the third level but the second level makes sense if you wanna rotate between different system roots?

07:02 <Myrl-saki> Errr

07:02 <Myrl-saki> Does GHC have new error reporting?

07:03 <Myrl-saki> I'm getting messages with `no | warning'

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07:13 <clever> srhb: i just use pool/root pool/nix and pool/home for my systems

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07:14 <srhb> clever: Corresponding to /, /nix and /home ?

07:14 <clever> yep

07:14 <srhb> I did feel like this seemed needlessly complicated

07:14 <srhb> I wonder if I can sensible redo it online...

07:15 <clever> and i left the pool itself with the default mountpoint, so zfs places it at /pool/

07:15 <srhb> Probably shouldn't try :-P

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07:15 <srhb> clever: What's the point of that, I wonder?

07:15 <clever> i use it for bulk storage of things that dont fall into the other 3 classes

07:16 <srhb> Ah.

07:16 <clever> but i think its mainly a left-over, from when you dont set the mountpoint

07:16 <clever> zfs expects those filesystems to land at /pool/, /pool/nix/, /pool/home/ and /pool/root/

07:16 <clever> and it all acts like one big directory

07:17 <srhb> Right.

07:17 <srhb> But we have to use legacy on NixOS anyway, right?

07:18 <clever> legacy is only a requirement for things that stage-1 is mounting

07:18 <clever> which would be / and /nix

07:18 <clever> but i have ran into problems where zfs doesnt mount other things right on its own sometimes, so it helps to just make everything legacy

07:18 <srhb> Yeah, okay. Seems very low maintenance anyway.

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07:51 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/v7Hyr

07:51 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 2a8cd14 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into HEAD

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09:06 <ambro718> How to build just one thing on a different machine? I don't want to mess with automatic remote building.

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09:26 <LnL> the easiest way is probably to copy over the drv with nix-copy-closure and nix-store -r that

09:27 <mbrgm> could someone who's on latest nixos-unstable please try to `nix-env -i python3` ?

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09:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #28227: set-source-date-epoch-to-latest.sh: ignore generated files (master...patch-49) https://git.io/v7HHy

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09:36 <roundhouse> Hi, I have a systemd script that needs to access the program "openssl". If I add a line to systemd.services.<name>.preStart = "openssl genrsa ..." it complains about not finding openssl, even though it is installed. Any advice?

09:37 <Myrl-saki> roundhouse: `${openssl}/bin/openssl`?

09:37 <LnL> the paths of systemd services is empty by default

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09:38 <roundhouse> LnL: can I modify the path to include the binaries of a certain package?

09:39 <LnL> yes systemd.services.<name>.path = [ foo ]; iirc

09:39 <LnL> or just use the absolute path like Myrl-saki suggested

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09:43 <roundhouse> Myrl-saki: Thanks, works like charm.

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09:49 <srhb> mbrgm: Looks fine.

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09:50 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to gcc-6: https://git.io/v7HQy

09:50 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/gcc-6 6899c7f Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into gcc-6

09:50 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/gcc-6 505e942 Vladimír Čunát: stdenv: resurrect the allowedRequisites check...

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10:07 <MoreTea> hmm, do the one-click-installer links still work?

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10:09 <mbrgm> srhb: strange... it's complaining about $out/bin/pip missing for me :-/

10:09 <MoreTea> no, found some working links.

10:10 <srhb> mbrgm: abdb58e40 ?

10:10 <mbrgm> srhb: yup

10:10 <srhb> mbrgm: Guess your config broke it then?

10:10 <mbrgm> nix-shell -p python3 works though... :-/

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10:11 <FRidh> use the attribute, so nix-env -iA python3

10:12 <FRidh> ah, that error, yes

10:12 <mbrgm> FRidh: same problem

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10:13 <FRidh> yes, I know

10:13 <mbrgm> http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/KrEbCQdk?nix

10:14 <mbrgm> is it a known issue?

10:15 <FRidh> yes, fixing it now

10:15 <FRidh> forgot about it

10:15 <mbrgm> FRidh: could you highlight me with the commit/PR link when done? I'm curious about what's the problem

10:15 <mbrgm> thx for taking care of it! :)

10:17 <FRidh> mbrgm: python and pip refer to python3 and pip3. At some point I removed ensurepip, but did not remove the symbolic link

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10:19 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] michaelpj opened pull request #28228: Overlays: allow overlays to be specified as a file (master...overlays-file) https://git.io/v7H5s

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10:19 <mbrgm> FRidh: I also worked around it by commenting the `ln ...` in the postInstall, but then I was wondering 1) why this problem did not appear earlier, as git-blame showed that --without-ensurepip was added in february and 2) why it works in a nix-shell... you just explained 1), but 2) is confusing to me... :-/

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10:23 <FRidh> mbrgm: they all build the derivation, and the resulting derivation works fine. `nix-env` however, seems to follow/validate symbolic links and that's why it errors: the link is broken

10:24 <MoreTea> Where would the one-click installer file format be documented?

10:24 <MoreTea> I'm expecially curious why both a .drv file and the realized store path are included

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10:24 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 3 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v7H5g

10:24 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 3b56eda Frederik Rietdijk: python34: remove symlink to pip...

10:24 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 53d2838 Frederik Rietdijk: python35: remove symlink to pip...

10:24 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 748589b Frederik Rietdijk: python36: remove symlink to pip...

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10:24 <FRidh> mbrgm: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/748589bf60feb00f54c325503e87771754bdc044

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10:25 <MoreTea> (i'm trying to reverse-engineer from cat $(readlink $(which nix-install-package)) )

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10:26 <FRidh> MoreTea: https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-nix-install-package

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10:27 <Infinisil> Regarding that, why is nix-install-package not available for nix 1.12?

10:28 <sphalerite> MoreTea: the readlink there is superfluous ;)

10:29 <mbrgm> FRidh: ah, I see. thank you for the explanation!

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10:39 <sphalerite> I'm very confused as to how to use go2nix. Does it work with godeps at all?

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10:42 <Infinisil> Ah, nix-install-package has been removed.. https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/831

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10:43 <ixxie> how can I find the shell launch command for google-chrome

10:46 <Infinisil> ixxie: Binaries are in the packages /bin directory

10:47 <Infinisil> But I admittedly don't know how to get the packages directory from just the package name in nixpkgs

10:47 <Infinisil> That is from the installed version

10:47 <Infinisil> For me it seems to be google-chrome-stable

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10:48 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: I fell asleep just 10 or so minutes after. :P

10:48 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: ;)

10:49 <srhb> Infinisil: $(nix-build <nixpkgs> -A package) should give the path :)

10:49 <cmcdragonkai> I just found out that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not being set within a nix-shell for the C libraries I bring in

10:49 <cmcdragonkai> as part of buildInputs

10:49 <Infinisil> srhb: But that might build it

10:50 <cmcdragonkai> Why do I need to explicitly set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the libPaths of the runtimeLibs?

10:50 <cmcdragonkai> Of the buildInputs I mean

10:50 <srhb> Infinisil: Only if it doesn't exist :-P

10:50 <Infinisil> srhb: It does build it when you installed it previously, but the channel updated since then

10:50 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: On the other hand, I'm planning to just have a local hackage-packages.nix

10:50 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: Maybe set it to copy stackage.

10:50 <srhb> Infinisil: Sure.

10:51 <Myrl-saki> NixOS used to have lts*, right? Is the script for generating those available?

10:52 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: there is nix-env -q that lists user installed packages

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10:52 <Infinisil> Oh wait, i don't think you mean that, what do you mean by lts*?

10:53 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: http://stackage.org/

10:53 <ixxie> Infinisil: thanks :)

10:53 <Infinisil> Ahh

10:53 <srhb> Myrl-saki: iirc they're deprecated.

10:54 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Right.

10:54 <srhb> Myrl-saki: The main hackage set should correspond mostly to Stackage... Nightly I think?

10:54 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Yep, and I want lts*

10:54 * srhb nods

10:55 <Myrl-saki> I have way too many overrides I might as well make my own package repo lol

10:55 <srhb> Go forth and stackage2nix :-)

10:55 <Myrl-saki> Oh cool, there's stack2nix, actually.

10:55 <Myrl-saki> Checking what it provides.

10:55 <srhb> That's different though

10:56 <srhb> That's for generating expressions from stack projects.

10:56 <srhb> stackage2nix is basically hackage2nix with the versions taken from stackage, if I recall correctly.

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10:57 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Where's the script? I can't seem to nix-shell to it.

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10:58 <Infinisil> srhb: Are you sure that exists? I can't find anything in nixpkgs..

10:58 <Infinisil> There is hackage2ni

10:58 <srhb> https://github.com/angerman/stackage2nix

10:58 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Thanks so much omg

10:59 <Infinisil> Why is this not in nixpkgs??

10:59 <srhb> Infinisil: No one added it?

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10:59 <Myrl-saki> I just realized something. With stackage2nix, stack shouldn't be that useful, right?

10:59 <srhb> Myrl-saki: Correct.

10:59 <srhb> Stack is generally not useful on nix.

11:00 <Myrl-saki> srhb: I didn't know any other build tools, and Cabal is quite arcane magic to me. :P

11:00 <srhb> cabal-install ?

11:00 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Yeah.

11:00 <Myrl-saki> srhb: It's more of that there are a lot of instructions?

11:00 <srhb> Generally you just forget about the stack.yaml and use cabal build, cabal repl

11:00 <Myrl-saki> "How to instantiate sandbox..." etc. etc.

11:01 <srhb> You won't need sandboxes either in NIx.

11:01 <Infinisil> stackage2nix looks pretty dead tbh, does it still work?

11:01 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: There's one way to find out. :P

11:01 <srhb> Myrl-saki: So really, you'll only be using configure, build and repl

11:01 <srhb> Myrl-saki: And the cabal file you'll already be used to from using Stack.

11:01 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Ahh

11:02 <Myrl-saki> srhb: What does `configure` do?

11:02 <srhb> Find the deps etc.

11:02 <srhb> It'll be run by cabal build automatically if needed.

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11:04 <srhb> Infinisil: I think the latest iterations live in some branches of cabal2nix

11:05 <srhb> bennofs might know

11:05 <srhb> peculiar, I just had to build mono to install steam on nixos-unstable

11:05 <srhb> And it succeeded.

11:05 <srhb> I wonder why it wasn't in the cache.

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11:05 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #28215: dateutils: 0.4.1 -> 0.4.2 (master...update/dateutils-0.4.2) https://git.io/v7Hza

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11:09 <Myrl-saki> srhb: What's the advantage of cabal over pure nix?

11:10 <angerman> srhb, Myrl-saki: sadly that still needs some work. Not sure how well it works on Linux though. On macOS there are some rather annoying issues with how cabal2nix works.

11:11 <srhb> Myrl-saki: Not using cabal is no fun at all, you'd have to manually string together ghc commands to get libraries etc.

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11:11 <srhb> Myrl-saki: The Nix way is generally considered Nix + cabal-install

11:11 <ylwghst> does anyone use tor-browser?

11:11 <srhb> angerman: Thanks for the update :)

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11:16 <Myrl-saki> srhb: :|

11:16 <Myrl-saki> Whoops

11:16 <Myrl-saki> Didn't mean to ping.

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11:17 <srhb> Myrl-saki: I don't understand why that's a problem. :) Under the hood, Stack uses Cabal (the library) as well.

11:18 <Myrl-saki> srhb: Nono. That's fine. Dun worry.

11:18 <srhb> Myrl-saki: cabal-install (the cabal *command*) is just another, (arguably more direct) interface to that

11:18 <srhb> :)

11:19 <srhb> I would love if Stack supported nix better though (as in, for actual Haskell deps)

11:19 <srhb> But I'm not prepared to give up my binary caches :-P

11:19 <MoreTea> FRidh: thanks, I tried to click that link in the train over a 4G connection, but it didn't resolve.

11:19 <Myrl-saki> srhb: I enjoy seeing the lines scroll when compiling. :D

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11:20 <MoreTea> sphalerite: I know, wanted to see which package provided nix-install-package.

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11:22 <MoreTea> I'm interested in nix-install-package to have some URL to install a package for my kubernix project

11:22 <srhb> Myrl-saki: lens takes so long! :-)

11:22 <Myrl-saki> srhb: An excuse for me to do other stuff.

11:22 <Myrl-saki> :P

11:23 <srhb> Hehe

11:24 <Myrl-saki> What reads `libraryHaskellDepends`, mkDerivation or callPackage?

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11:25 <LnL> the haskell mkDerivation

11:25 <Myrl-saki> Ah, so stdenv is wrong.

11:26 <LnL> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/generic-builder.nix

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11:27 <Infinisil> MoreTea: nix-install-package is not going to be in the next nix version

11:27 <LnL> yeah, isn't that deprecated?

11:27 <Infinisil> https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/831

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11:29 <Myrl-saki> Yay. That works.

11:30 <Myrl-saki> Or not.

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11:30 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jpierre03 opened pull request #28229: alt-ergo: use https instead of http to fetch archive (master...pr-alt-ergo) https://git.io/v7HFA

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11:31 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Hbe

11:31 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b9b0049 Peter Hoeg: tboot: 1.8.2 -> 1.9.6

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11:32 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Hbv

11:32 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 35a2687 Tristan Helmich: emby: 3.2.22.0 -> 3.2.26.0

11:32 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 48541d4 Joachim F: Merge pull request #28181 from fadenb/emby...

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11:33 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] seppeljordan opened pull request #28230: python: Don't link python3 executables if they don't exist (master...fix-python-links) https://git.io/v7HbJ

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11:37 <Myrl-saki> This is going to sound stupid. How do I have a nix-shell which can only access $out?

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11:37 <ambro718> does someone have suggestions for improving experience on tablets? I got quite a lot to run on ASUS T102HA, however some things need improvement: Touchpad does not work, touchscreen works but Plasma apps don't understand scrolling (it is as if I clicked and dragged when I scroll; Chromium works perfetcly though even does zoom with two finger action), lack of on-screen keyboard (does Plasma have it and I just need to install?)

11:39 <ambro718> also cursor moves to finger position when touchign touchscreen... something doesn't understand the touchscreen is a touchscreen?

11:39 <ixxie> ambro718: have you fiddled with libinput options: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#libinput

11:39 <ambro718> I will try thanks

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11:43 <Myrl-saki> Gah

11:44 <Myrl-saki> How do I run buildPhase etc. under nix-shell?

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11:45 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jpierre03 opened pull request #28231: acoustid-fingerprinter: use https to fetch package (master...pr-acoustid-fingerprinter) https://git.io/v7HbE

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11:46 <ylwghst> where are stored C header files?

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11:51 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] wizzup opened pull request #28232: automake: 1.15 -> 1.15.1 (master...update-automake) https://git.io/v7Hb5

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11:51 <ambro718> weird, apparently the touchpad is found by kernel and Xorg ("ASUS HID Device ASUS HID Device Touchpad") but it emits no events, even cat on the event node produces nothing

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12:02 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #28232: automake: 1.15 -> 1.15.1 (master...update-automake) https://git.io/v7Hb5

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12:21 <sphalerite> why is docker so horribly broken

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12:22 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jpierre03 opened pull request #28233: aescrypt: use https to fetch archive (master...pr-aescrypt) https://git.io/v7HNi

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12:24 <tilpner> sphalerite - What about it is broken?

12:26 <sphalerite> tilpner: everything. I've got an old debian server that's running a bunch of docker containers and migrating the services to a new nixos server is a pain because docker is so messed up. I can run docker stop <container> for instance, which hangs for a while then returns success, but if I then try to docker rm the container it complains that it's still running

12:26 <sphalerite> tilpner: not asking for help, just complaining ;)

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12:29 <tilpner> Why would you migrate containers? Just rebuild them on the other side, and transfer volumes, no?

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12:30 <sphalerite> tilpner: I want to move them to nixos services as much as possible

12:31 <sphalerite> ambro718: does evtest on the device also not report anything?

12:36 <gchristensen> sphalerite: I wasn't planning on being quite as thorough as you are, thank you :o

12:37 <sphalerite> haha

12:38 <Myrl-saki> When I use nix-shell on haskellPackages' https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/generic-builder.nix , the definition of `configurePhase` and `buildPhase` remains default.

12:41 <Myrl-saki> Oh, use `eval "$..."`

12:41 <mbrgm> does anyone know how to fix this error when building a nix package: configure: error: cannot find install-sh, install.sh, or shtool in "." "./.." "./../.."

12:44 <sphalerite> mbrgm: which apckage?

12:45 <mbrgm> sphalerite: I'm trying to package the nemo filemanager... got past it now by executing 'autoreconf -i' in the preconfigurePhase

12:45 <sphalerite> mbrgm: rather than adding it like that, add autoreconfHook to buildInputs :)

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12:46 <mbrgm> sphalerite: I'll try

12:47 <avn> mbrgm: pool autoreconfHook to nativeBuildInputs

12:47 <avn> s/pool/put/

12:48 <mbrgm> hmm... when manually building this, should it get executed automatically when running `configurePhase` ?

12:48 <mbrgm> i.e. nix-shell, `unpackPhase`, ...

12:48 <ambro718> sphalerite: actually, evdev (and "cat") *does* report events, I must have used trie wrong device before. Xorg log seems normal: http://ideone.com/n8aseD

12:49 <fpletz> mbrgm: autoreconfHook adds a new phase: autoreconfPhase

12:49 <sphalerite> oh yes, sorry, nativeBuildInputs not buildInputs

12:49 <ambro718> I see EV_ABS and other events which look reasonable --> why would it not work then?

12:49 <sphalerite> ambro718: that's good to know. Do you know which Xorg input driver you're using for it?

12:50 <ambro718> sphalerite: the Xorg log I pasted says evdev

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12:50 <ambro718> it even says "configuring as touchpad"

12:50 <mbrgm> fpletz: ty!

12:51 <sphalerite> ambro718: can you paste any xserver-related parts of your config somewhere?

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12:52 <ambro718> sphalerite: http://ideone.com/MkWNOw

12:52 <ambro718> nothing that would affect this touchpad

12:52 <pmeunier> Hi! I'm having problems with nixops on google compute engine. The deployment starts ok, but ends with the ExecStart for "google-instance-setup.service" is not found. Any clue?d

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12:53 <pmeunier> (the machine is up and working, btw, but nixops is reporting "unable to activate new configuration")

12:53 <sphalerite> ambro718: Does setting services.xserver.libinput.enable = true; help?

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12:56 <yegortimoshenko> when i change services.xserver.deviceSection, or any serivec.xserver.*section for that matter, i don't see any x11 configs getting rebuilt on `nixos-rebuild switch`. i also am pretty sure that my config is getting ignored. has anyone had this issue?

12:57 <yegortimoshenko> s/serivec/services/

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13:05 <ambro718> sphalerite: yes that fixed it, thanks! seems to work all right including scrolling

13:05 <ambro718> now, why is that not the default...

13:06 <sphalerite> great

13:06 <sphalerite> because whether it works varies between hardware

13:06 <ambro718> there are quite some configs like that that I need to get in the habit of enabling else random things don't work

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13:06 <ambro718> pulseaudio is another, else audio doesn't work

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13:13 <betaboon> can anyone help with python-packages in overlays ?

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13:13 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v7HpG

13:13 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 36f6e4c mimadrid: sqlite: 3.19.3 -> 3.20.0

13:13 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging d64621f Vladimír Čunát: Merge #27910: sqlite: 3.19.3 -> 3.20.0

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13:13 <srhb> betaboon: More specifically?

13:16 <betaboon> i am struggeling with a service i wrote, that is using packages and dependencies from an overlay. the current problem is what seems like a pyhon3 package pulling in a python2-setuptools. a more detailed writeup is here: https://gist.github.com/betaboon/a4212f102d5238155825dd160473410a

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13:20 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ef026e02fc (from 14 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable)

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13:21 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v7HpS

13:21 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging f21cd84 Vladimír Čunát: mesa: maintenance 17.1.5 -> 17.1.6

13:21 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging ebafe1d Vladimír Čunát: libdrm: 2.4.81 -> 2.4.82

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13:28 <Myrl-saki> Well

13:28 <Myrl-saki> Using nix-build alone is too slow for me.

13:28 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: Use nix-shell for development

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13:31 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: Right.

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13:32 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: But $out is read-only

13:35 <betaboon> srhb: any idea ?

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13:37 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: I actually haven't ever developed with nix-shell

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13:38 <Infinisil> But you shouldn't really need to install it anyways

13:39 <Infinisil> As with development on other distros, nobody installs programs while developing them, it's always being tested in a `build` directory or so

13:39 <felipedvorak> I've been experiencing a funny problem. I'm running nix under Arch, but please bear with me. nix works just fine if I open up a terminal with Zsh, but as soon as I launch tmux, the zsh instance can't see the nix path _until_ I launch zsh manually from within the instance that cant see it, then it can!

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13:39 <felipedvorak> Tried searching and asking on Arch but nothing.

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13:39 <felipedvorak> Maybe my next stop will be #tmux.

13:39 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: Probably I should've mentioned this: With your CellGame, you should really separate build and installing, you currently build directly into $out

13:40 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: The nix path gets probably set from your .zshrc or .zshenv

13:41 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: .zshenv

13:41 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Yeah, that means only processes started from zsh will have that set

13:41 <felipedvorak> But I do start tmux from zsh

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13:41 <Infinisil> huh

13:42 <felipedvorak> This is what I don't understand.

13:42 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: Ah, I changed the build system a bit.

13:42 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: https://github.com/adrianparvino/CellGame

13:43 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: I should really stop the habit of "comment in case I need for later" lmao

13:43 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: Maybe nix requires a specific umask? I use 077 because paranoia. Maybe that is what is affecting it?

13:43 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Hmm, is tmux launching zsh by default?

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13:44 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: Yes

13:44 <Infinisil> Myrl-saki: I think that's what git is for :P

13:44 <felipedvorak> And the zsh it launches is the blind one

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13:44 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: Exactly why I need to stop that habit. :P

13:44 <Myrl-saki> Infinisil: The more I use it, the less I use git too.

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13:45 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: You could have a look at htop, you can check the env vars, process tree, whihc command got run for which process

13:45 <Infinisil> with htop, can recommend

13:47 <felipedvorak> hmm

13:47 <Infinisil> Within htop: "t" to toggle process tree, "e" to see the env vars of a process, under nix "p" is very helpful to not display the long /nix/store paths

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13:47 <felipedvorak> I can find terminal>zsh>tmux a

13:47 <felipedvorak> But down there, there is tmux>zsh

13:47 <felipedvorak> So maybe this is because Systemd

13:49 <Infinisil> Maybe

13:50 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: wow, thanks for the tip, that env list was new to me but quite useful

13:50 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Do you have `export NIX_PATH=...` or just `NIX_PATH=...` in your .zshenv?

13:50 <felipedvorak> and to my surprise, the tmux that launches zsh DOES include the path containing nix

13:51 <Infinisil> But zsh then doesn't anymore?

13:51 <felipedvorak> [ -e ~/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh ] && source ~/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh

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13:52 <Infinisil> Hmm right

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13:52 <Infinisil> So the tmux process directly under systemd does have NIX_PATH set correctly but the forked zsh from that doesn't?

13:52 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: the bizarre... all zsh from tmux where I cant access nix commands _DO_ have the correct path

13:53 <felipedvorak> They both have!

13:53 <sphalerite> also useful for htop: this patch https://github.com/lheckemann/dotfiles/blob/master/htop-stripstore.patch to replace store paths with "$" — makes it a lot more readable

13:53 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: What is the error?

13:53 <felipedvorak> /o\

13:54 <Infinisil> sphalerite: Pressing "p" does work on the executables name, strips all but the filename

13:54 <sphalerite> Infinisil: but not other store paths in the cmdline

13:54 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: The Zsh instance under Tmux that "can't" see nix _does_ have nix in the $PATH.

13:54 <Infinisil> sphalerite: Yeah, but I sometimes like that, it's possible to find used config files like that

13:55 <sphalerite> and just p doesn't seem to be working for all the processes

13:55 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: What means "can't" see nix?

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13:55 <Infinisil> sphalerite: Which ones don't for you?

13:55 <felipedvorak> Commands arent available

13:55 <sphalerite> although that might be my patch's fault x)

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13:56 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Ah, so your $PATH must be wrong then

13:56 <Infinisil> ah

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13:56 <Infinisil> Is $PATH correct under these processes? Is there some .nix-profile thing in there?

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13:57 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7HjH

13:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master beec141 Peter Hoeg: ddclient: assign group for ddclient

13:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d4f4f41 Peter Hoeg: ddclient: minor packaging cleanups

13:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4ce76d9 Peter Hoeg: ddclient nixos module: follow best practice for running daemons...

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13:58 <Infinisil> /home/user/.nix-profile/bin has to be in $PATH to run the nix commands

13:58 <felipedvorak> PATH=/home/baika/.nix-profile/bin:/home/baika/.nix-profile/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/...

13:58 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Okay, do you have `nix-env`, etc. in one of these dirs? What does `which nix-env` say?

13:59 <felipedvorak> I do, if I just open a terminal and use nix it works just fine..

13:59 <felipedvorak> but if I open tmux from that very terminal, the zsh inside cant see the commands

13:59 <felipedvorak> even though it DOES have the PATH

13:59 <Infinisil> `which nix-env`?

14:00 <felipedvorak> nix-env not found

14:00 <Infinisil> W e i r d

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14:01 <bennofs> felipedvorak: isn't tmux client-server based?

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14:01 <bennofs> felipedvorak: perhaps the server uses a different PATH?

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14:02 <felipedvorak> bennofs: I have just looked at the ENV VARS for the server and they _do_ include the correct PATH.

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14:02 <felipedvorak> Damn, I just launched a new Tmux window, "which nix-env" there returns "nix-env not found" and looking at the ENV VARS for that very instance it DOES include the nix path.

14:02 <felipedvorak> I'm lost.

14:03 <Infinisil> That does sound very strange indeed

14:03 <Infinisil> Are all nix installed programs unavailable?

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14:03 <felipedvorak> AND, to make things even worse, from inside the blind Zsh, if I run zsh, the new zsh _CAN_ see nix just fine.

14:04 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: all

14:04 <Infinisil> but arch installed stuff works?

14:04 <felipedvorak> Yep

14:05 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: What happens when you set PATH exclicitly to the correct thing in the non-working shell?

14:05 <felipedvorak> wait

14:05 <Infinisil> Might be worth a try (although I have no idea how that would solve it)

14:06 <Infinisil> btw, there is also the `env` command that prints the environment

14:07 <felipedvorak> It works

14:07 <felipedvorak> echo $PATH there shows a PATH without nix

14:07 <felipedvorak> if I export the correct PATH it works

14:07 <Infinisil> hwhat

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14:08 <ambro718> what do I need to do to enter kernel menuconfig? I am getting an error about missing ncurses.

14:09 <felipedvorak> hmmm

14:09 <Infinisil> echo $PATH does not have the nix dirs? without manually changing it then? felipedvorak

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14:09 <felipedvorak> If I open a new blind shell and do $ env | grep PATH it shows me a PATH without nix but it DOES include a NIX_PATH set

14:09 <Infinisil> ambro718: Maybe nix-env -iA nixos.ncurses works

14:09 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: exactly.

14:10 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Ah, well NIX_PATH is something different, unrelated

14:10 <felipedvorak> Ok

14:10 <Infinisil> has nothing to do with where binaries are looked up

14:10 <ambro718> Infinisil: well nix-shell -p ncurses does not so that probably doesn't as well (don't wanna dirty my environment...)

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14:11 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Throw an `echo hi` in .zshenv /.zshrc and see if that gets executed when starting tmu

14:11 <Infinisil> x

14:11 <Infinisil> ambro718: What kernel menuconfig are you talking about?

14:11 <ambro718> Infinisil: enter kernel source and do "make menuconfig"

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14:12 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ehmry pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QeE

14:12 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3fde711 Jean-Pierre PRUNARET: acoustid-fingerprinter: use https to fetch package

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14:13 <Infinisil> ambro718: Soo, you're using nix-shell -A <kernel> or smth like that?

14:13 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: it does

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14:13 <ambro718> nix-shell -p ncurses

14:13 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: How about an `echo $PATH` before the sourcing of nix stuff, and again after that

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14:15 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: the bizarre happens.. BOTH include the nix path but it still CANT see nix at all

14:15 <ambro718> Infinisil: figured it out, added pkgconfig as well

14:16 <Infinisil> ambro718: You're trying to compile the kernel without using nixpkgs?

14:16 <ambro718> Infinisil: no I'm trying to enable some options

14:16 <ambro718> since using menuconfig is much more productive if you don't know exactly what you need to enable

14:17 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: And echo $PATH does not? Damn

14:17 <felipedvorak> yes..

14:17 <felipedvorak> this has been haunting me for months

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14:18 <bennofs> felipedvorak: i think nix's profile scripts have a check to prevent them from being sourced twice

14:18 <bennofs> felipedvorak: look at env and check for var names with two underscores

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14:18 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] avnik opened pull request #28236: wineUnstable: 2.13 -> 2.14 (master...wine-update) https://git.io/v7Qe1

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14:19 <bennofs> felipedvorak: oh, if [ -n "$HOME" ] && [ -n "$USER" ]; the

14:19 <bennofs> felipedvorak: is either of these unset when you source nix.sh ?

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14:20 <Infinisil> bennofs: I mean, he said the nix paths are included in $PATH after nix.sh is sourced

14:21 <bennofs> oh hmm well right

14:21 <bennofs> perhaps something later in your init sequence overrides $PATH?

14:21 <felipedvorak> bennofs: both appear to be set correctly

14:21 <bennofs> for example, /etc/profile has:

14:22 <bennofs> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin"

14:22 <bennofs> export PATH

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14:22 <felipedvorak> hmm

14:23 <felipedvorak> bennofs: /etc/profile does contain those lines

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14:24 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Ohh, try making tmux execute `zsh -x`

14:25 <Infinisil> It shows what is being executed

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14:26 <felipedvorak> So it is called AFTER .zshenv?

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14:27 <Infinisil> Seems like it, i mean it has to be changed somehow

14:28 <ambro718> my laptop/tablet suspends fine but the only way to wake it up is to press something on the keyboard, except if I detach and reattach the keyboard then nothing will wake it up

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14:29 <ambro718> power button and volume buttons are only keys on the tablet itself and neither wake it up

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14:31 <ylwghst> Infinisil: do you know how can i provide correct to C headers and whre they are while ./configure sources?

14:31 <ylwghst> path

14:31 <Infinisil> ambro718: I only know that this is being managed with systemd, via the suspend target

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14:31 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 5 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v7Qv3

14:31 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 1784840 Vladimír Čunát: dbus: maintenance 1.10.20 -> 1.10.22

14:31 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging b53d4c6 Vladimír Čunát: gdk-pixbuf: maintenance 2.36.6 -> 2.36.8

14:31 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging bbdb8f5 Vladimír Čunát: gkt3: maintenance 3.22.16 -> 3.22.18

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14:32 <Infinisil> ylwghst: Not sure, but there are some `NIX_...` env vars, that I believe might have what you need

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14:32 <Infinisil> ylwghst: env | grep NIX

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14:36 <ylwghst> nothing about gcc in < env

14:36 <mbrgm> is there a way to specify the `make` targets to build without setting the whole `buildPhase` ?

14:36 <LnL> you can use makeFlags

14:37 <ylwghst> I do actually think they are in tgmath.h

14:38 <ylwghst> /nix/store/2m6v6lnmnf9521ixd5v0x4qrmjkn30ws-gcc-5.4.0/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/../../../../include/c++/5.4.0/

14:38 <mbrgm> LnL: ty

14:39 <ylwghst> but without luck checking for libevent directory... configure: WARNING: We found the libraries for libevent, but we could not find the C header files. You may need to install a devel package.

14:39 <ylwghst> configure: error: Missing headers; unable to proceed.

14:39 <catern> is there a way to reimplement the functionality of Nix path literals, on path strings? specifically I want to hash and copy something into the store at evaluation time

14:39 <catern> but I want to be able to selectively filter what I copy

14:39 <LnL> ylwghst: nix automatically configures the search paths for you, you can see the full list of arguments that are passed to gcc with NIX_DEBUG = 1;

14:39 <catern> so I need something more customizable than path literals

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14:40 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] avnik opened pull request #28237: qt5: Fallback to mktemp -d for temporary QT root. (staging...qt5-mktemp) https://git.io/v7Qv6

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14:42 <Infinisil> ylwghst: And I think nix uses `CC` vars to specify general C compiler stuff, so it's not tied to GCC

14:42 <Infinisil> catern: builtins.filterSource?

14:42 <catern> Infinisil: yes, but I want to do it *before* the path is copied in to the store

14:43 <Infinisil> catern: That's what it does

14:43 <catern> Infinisil: with builtins.filterSource I have two copies of the sources in the store, right?

14:43 <catern> one filtered and one unfiltered

14:43 <Infinisil> catern: Nope

14:43 <catern> woah

14:43 <Infinisil> I'm pretty sure it filters it before coping it

14:43 <catern> okay, so it does evaluation magic I guess?

14:43 <Infinisil> That's why a builtin is needed

14:44 <catern> ah

14:44 <catern> I see

14:44 <catern> perfect!

14:44 <Infinisil> :)

14:44 <catern> thanks :)

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14:45 <ylwghst> LnL: I can't proceed

14:46 <felipedvorak> Damn, I was disconnected.

14:46 <felipedvorak> Anything that I may have missed?

14:47 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Nope :P

14:47 <felipedvorak> Infinisil: thanks

14:47 <Infinisil> Well there were some messages, but nothing for your problem

14:47 <felipedvorak> ok

14:47 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: You could also ask in #tmux and #linux

14:48 <felipedvorak> Yeah, I'll do that.

14:48 <felipedvorak> Thanks for the attention.

14:48 <Infinisil> felipedvorak: Np ;)

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14:48 <yorick> shlevy: what's your full fwupd nix config?

14:48 <yorick> making a module would be a good idea I think

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14:49 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nbp pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Qfe

14:49 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d60b288 Michael Peyton Jones: Nixpkgs manual: expand documentation for overlays

14:49 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5bc183e Michael Peyton Jones: Overlays: fix some documentation nits

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14:52 <catern> Infinisil: argh argh :(

14:52 <catern> Infinisil: filterSource only works on top-level things!

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14:59 <Infinisil> catern: What do you mean by top-level things?

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15:03 <catern> Infinisil: files and directories directly under the path

15:03 <catern> it doesn't recurse down to all the files and directories under the path, only the top

15:03 <Infinisil> catern: What are you trying to do exactly?

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15:04 <catern> copy sources into the store, without .git or built artifacts in those sources

15:05 <Infinisil> catern: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/lib/sources.nix

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15:06 <catern> wait, so, is it not just the top? the manual suggests it is...

15:06 * catern tests

15:06 <Infinisil> I'd think it's not, but I admittedly haven't tested it

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15:08 <Infinisil> It's in the docs: https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-builtins

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15:09 <catern> right

15:09 <catern> hmm, it does say "tree"

15:10 <catern> I was reading that as "directory"

15:10 <Infinisil> catern: You can use builtins.trace to figure out what it actually does

15:11 <catern> ah, it really does walk the whole tree

15:11 <catern> okay, it works for me :)

15:11 <catern> thanks again

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15:11 <Infinisil> catern: You could alse use builtins.readDir and the others if you need

15:12 <Infinisil> catern: Np ;)

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15:21 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #28238: Far2l 2017 07 13 (master...far2l-2017-07-13) https://git.io/v7QJM

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15:48 <cathod> hey, I downloaded a binary I can't execute because of "/bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory", do you know how I can patch it?

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15:51 <tilpner> cathod - Sounds like you downloaded a script. If the first line of that file looks like #!/bin/bash, you can simply replace it with #!/usr/bin/env bash

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15:53 <cathod> tilpner: exactly, i should have check! thanks

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15:59 <betaboon> I finaly got nixpkgs-overlays working correctly with python2 and python3 packages, thank whoever-had-a-say-in-this ...

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16:00 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QkB

16:00 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 206faac Daiderd Jordan: gcc: fix clang build...

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16:15 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] michaelpj opened pull request #28240: Nixpkgs config: NIXPKGS_CONFIG -> <nixpkgs-config> (master...nixpkgs-config) https://git.io/v7QII

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16:30 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #28241: kubernetes-helm: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.1 (master...helm-2.5.1) https://git.io/v7QIh

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16:35 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QLY

16:35 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7ebcd39 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge commit '4c49205' into HEAD

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16:36 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #27806: Kdeconnect: add sshfs dependency and provide NixOS module (master...kdeconnect_fixes) https://git.io/v74BB

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16:38 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28230: python: Don't link python3 executables if they don't exist (master...fix-python-links) https://git.io/v7HbJ

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16:38 <ixxie> gchristensen: fixed what you asked, and ported pill 6 to boot ;)

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16:39 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28233: aescrypt: use https to fetch archive (master...pr-aescrypt) https://git.io/v7HNi

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16:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh force-pushed python-wip from beba8e9 to 38ea988: https://git.io/vzaOS

16:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-wip 38ea988 Johannes Frankenau: pythonPackages.lxml: 3.7.2 -> 3.8.0

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16:58 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #28242: clipster: 1.0.1 -> 1.2.5 (master...clipster) https://git.io/v7Qt3

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16:58 <gnuhurd> god dammit, why is compiling anything on nixos so hard

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17:08 <obadz> gnuhurd: it's easier than anywhere else, if you care to ever rebuild it again…

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17:09 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Qt7

17:09 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2d5a04e Franz Pletz: nixos/agetty: override upstream default...

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17:18 <catern> is there a way to reliably detect from my build script if I am inside a Nix build? both from nix-build or from nix-shell

17:19 <FRidh> catern: $IN_NIX_SHELL

17:19 <catern> FRidh: is that also set during nix-builds?

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17:20 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/5bc183ebf8 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)

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17:22 <betaboon> FRidh: i just solved my overlays+python2+python3 problem :)

17:22 <FRidh> catern: $ nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs>{}; stdenv.mkDerivation { name = "foo"; unpackPhase = ":"; buildPhase = "env | grep NIX "; }'

17:22 <FRidh> betaboon: great!

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17:22 <FRidh> by the way, I replied on your gist.

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17:24 <betaboon> ah, i didnt notice. thanks.

17:24 <catern> FRidh: eh? I mean, I can see it is not set during nix-builds, so that doesn't work for me :)

17:25 <betaboon> turned out i had to explicitly pass pythonPackages to callPackage for the python3 packages, like so: https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/blob/master/packages/top-level/python-packages.nix

17:25 <FRidh> betaboon: but why are you calling all those packages?

17:25 <FRidh> are you using your own definitions?

17:25 <catern> what about NIX_BUILD_TOP?

17:25 <catern> is it reasonable to use that to determine whether I am inside Nix?

17:26 <betaboon> FRidh: the packages/top-level is my own directory, not nixpkgs/pkgs/top-level. I just tried to emulate the structure of nixpkgs.

17:26 <FRidh> I would imagine that to be one of the more "reliable" env vars to use yes

17:26 <FRidh> betaboon: okay

17:26 <FRidh> you could make it a list of names and then map the callPackage function ;)

17:27 <betaboon> is there a more elegant solution for the 'inherit pythonPackages' for every callPackage-call in that file ?

17:27 <FRidh> It depends when/how callPackage is defined.

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17:28 <FRidh> if you use a python overlay, and then self.callPackage where self is the self from the Python package set, then, if your packages have parameters for each package and such, it would automatically fill it.

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17:32 <FRidh> catern: you could of course also export an env var yourself in your nix-build

17:33 <Mlkmt> Hi, I'm trying to install nixos on a laptop with emmc, and uefi, I managed to install, but I'm stuck at first boot

17:34 <Mlkmt> It seems that at stage 1 it tries to read the rpbm and that timeouts

17:34 <Mlkmt> And makes the whole disk unavailable

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17:34 <Mlkmt> I'll take a screenshot of the logs

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17:38 <gchristensen> ixxie: awesome! today has turned in to a busy day, but I'm going to try and review when I can.

17:38 <betaboon> FRidh i don't hink i completly understand. could you elaborate some more ?

17:39 <Mlkmt> https://imgur.com/gallery/FvweQ

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17:39 <FRidh> betaboon: your package expressions are function that have `pythonPackages` as parameter. If you would instead put the individual dependencies as parameters, then self.callPackage will fill the arguments

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17:40 <betaboon> the overlay-self, not the python-override-self, right ?

17:41 <Mlkmt> Any ideas? Maybe there's an option to tell boot stage 1 to ignore the rpbm partition (?)

17:41 <Mlkmt> I had previously installed ubuntu on this laptop and could boot

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17:49 <tilpner> Mlkmt - What does your hardware-configuration.nix look like?

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17:54 <FRidh> betaboon: the python-override-self

17:55 <FRidh> as that one knows about the python attributes

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17:55 <betaboon> that one claims to not have a callPackage oO

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17:57 <FRidh> oh, super.callPackage, sorry

17:58 <betaboon> hm same

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17:59 <tilpner> Mlkmt - What does your hardware-configuration.nix look like?

18:00 <betaboon> FRidh: this is my starting point: https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/blob/master/packages/overlay.nix#L7 i changed to "inherit (python-super) callPackage;"

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18:00 <Mlkmt> tilpner: https://pastebin.com/C6WdjLUc

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18:00 <FRidh> betaboon: its really confusing you shadow the names from nixpkgs

18:01 <betaboon> I'm sorry xD

18:02 <ylwghst> Systemd.services here i can define own service?

18:02 <FRidh> betaboon: change your python-packages.nix to `self: super: { aniso8601 = ..... } `

18:03 <tilpner> Mlkmt - I was hoping it would mention the UUID from the screenshot :/

18:03 <FRidh> betaboon: so remove { callPackage, pythonPackages }: rec

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18:04 <FRidh> and remove lines 7 and 8 from overlay.nix

18:04 <FRidh> as well as python-self: python-super:

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18:05 <Mlkmt> that's weird

18:05 <Mlkmt> I'll reinstall with this hardware-configuration

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18:07 <gnuhurd> if I build something using nix-build, and I have a result directory, if I delete it will it delete the store path as well?

18:07 <ixxie> gchristensen: figured as much :) I am just happy you started the effort in the first place. Let me know if I can do anything else; I'll check in a week and if there are still some pills missing I can give a hand again ^^

18:07 <Mlkmt> mmm, this is even weirder tilpner

18:07 <Mlkmt> findfs uuid=70ebcd7f-6653-49f6-83a0-304931d08bde findfs: unable to resolve 'uuid=70ebcd7f-6653-49f6-83a0-304931d08bde'

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18:08 <Mlkmt> sorry, ignore that

18:08 <Mlkmt> it was UUID=

18:08 <tilpner> Mlkmt - I hardly know anything about emmc. Is there a reason it would repartition itself? Did you repartition it? Any other reason UUIDs might change?

18:09 <tilpner> Alternatively, mount it by label instead of UUID

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18:13 <Mlkmt> I did mount it by label

18:13 <Mlkmt> it's weird... maybe it's something gummiboot does?

18:13 <Mlkmt> I had ignored the uuid

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18:14 <Mlkmt> I'll change the hardware config to point device to by-labe

18:14 <Mlkmt> l

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18:19 <ylwghst> is there any alternative or alternative client to evernote in nixpkgs?

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18:22 <betaboon> FRidh: i still end up with "attribute 'callPackage' missing". these are the changes i did: https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/commit/bc190f40c30a71b2b4a15c1de9c4c9db5a0fd4d9

18:23 <Mlkmt> alright, here it goes

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18:24 <FRidh> betaboon: is that perhaps https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/commit/bc190f40c30a71b2b4a15c1de9c4c9db5a0fd4d9#diff-28d8d2380f474a76eebe5829036223d1L3

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18:26 <michalrus> Hey, does nixos-install destroy data on the root partition in some side directory?

18:26 <michalrus> Or rather, is there a chance that it will be destroyed?

18:26 <Infinisil> michalrus: Nope

18:26 <michalrus> Awesome, thanks! =)

18:26 <Infinisil> michalrus: It only uses /tmp and installs everything into /nix I'm 99% sure

18:27 <michalrus> Kay, cool!

18:27 <michalrus> I’m planning to move my dad’s machine from debian to nixos and it has only one partition (for / & /home), so I planned to leave /home as is.

18:28 <Infinisil> Ah, you're talking about nixos-install, i thought of the nix install. But yeah, nixos-install is also not destructive at all

18:28 <michalrus> OK

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18:29 <Infinisil> michalrus: Sounds good, should be pretty easy to take over to nixos

18:29 <michalrus> Yeah, and it’s his second machine, so I’ve already got a configuration.nix.

18:29 <Infinisil> By just mounting the /home partition to /mnt/home when installing

18:29 <michalrus> I was just worried about this /home

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18:37 <Infinisil> michalrus: Does he not have backups??

18:37 <betaboon> FRidh: nope same thing. did you consider that the "self: super:" in python-packages.nix is actually the one passed from super.python3.override{ packageOverride = } =

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18:41 <FRidh> betaboon: you pushed the changes?

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18:41 <betaboon> FRidh: the removal of L3? no

18:42 <FRidh> you do not pass in any super

18:42 <FRidh> or what did you mean?

18:42 <betaboon> no I'm not passing in any super

18:43 <betaboon> FRidh: just doing it like this: https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/commit/bc190f40c30a71b2b4a15c1de9c4c9db5a0fd4d9#diff-28d8d2380f474a76eebe5829036223d1R5

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18:45 <FRidh> betaboon: now do the same in https://github.com/betaboon/nixcfg/blob/master/packages/top-level/all-packages.nix

18:46 <FRidh> no wait

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18:50 <FRidh> I don't see what's wrong here. Do you have a trace?

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18:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 14 new commits to staging: https://git.io/v7QsO

18:54 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging ebdbc08 Tuomas Tynkkynen: xorg: Split some man outputs from doc...

18:54 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 9f2f74d Tuomas Tynkkynen: ffmpeg: Add man output

18:54 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 3f29eb8 Tuomas Tynkkynen: ghostscript: Add man output

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19:00 <betaboon> FRidh: i just pushed a commit, i still run into: attribute callPackage missing, at /root/nixcfg/packages/top-level/python-packages.nix:2:4

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19:02 <betaboon> FRidh: trace is here: https://gist.github.com/betaboon/ab0ddee963de199570e0e4391e1b5891

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19:04 <FRidh> (I would put the contents of overlay.nix into all-packages.nix because that's what you are changing)

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19:06 <michalrus> Infinisil: he has some, but I wouldn’t want to count on them. =P

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19:09 <betaboon> FRidh: just pushed a commit doing that, still same problem

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19:15 <FRidh> betaboon: not sure but I think it may play a role that you pass in `pkgs` and `pythonPackages` in some of the python expressions

19:15 <betaboon> I'll try to remove that

19:16 <FRidh> replacing pythonPackages with self may work as well though

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19:27 <michalrus> Hey, anyone one on GNOME?

19:28 <sphalerite> Any zfs wizards here know a way to split a fs into two, e.g. if I have /var/lib in the same fs as / and want to move it to its own?

19:28 <johnw> zfs create a new filesystem

19:28 <johnw> cp -pR or rsync the /var/lib into the new filesystem (after mounting it somewhere)

19:28 <clever> sphalerite: ive been thinking about doing that on my NAS, the only thing i can think of is to create a new filesystem and move the contents over while the system is offline

19:29 <johnw> rm -fr /var/lib, then change the mountpoint for the new filesystem to /var/lib and unmount/remount it

19:29 <sphalerite> so no way to get COW to do its maagic and not require any shifting around of the data?

19:29 <johnw> none that I know of

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19:29 <sphalerite> :(

19:29 <johnw> it's a filesystem property, not a pool property

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19:29 <clever> linux thinks the 2 filesystems are on seperate partitions, so it cant do an atomic move via rename()

19:30 <clever> and i dont know of any special zfs utils that would optimize it

19:30 <clever> so that only leaves a very expensive option, dedup, but that would only work if the original data had been written when dedup was on

19:30 <sphalerite> I was hoping zfs would make this sort of thing easy and not require much thinking ahead on my behalf >.>

19:31 <Infinisil> What's the benefit of putting /var/lib into its own dataset?

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19:31 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QZT

19:31 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a0aae85 Frederik Rietdijk: Python: move some attributes together with the rest of the Python-related attributes.

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19:31 <sphalerite> So I can set properties on it

19:32 <sphalerite> like reservation and autosnapshot

19:32 <Infinisil> Hmm right, so which ones do you want to set there, I'm interested

19:32 <Infinisil> Fair enough

19:32 <sphalerite> I don't need to autosnapshot the nix store because it's all built from expressions. I don't need to autosnapshot /etc because I manage the history of that with git

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19:33 <sphalerite> but it's nice to have backups of all the mutable stuff :)

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19:35 <clever> sphalerite: i try to keep /nix in its own dataset, so i can turn snapshots off there

19:35 <Infinisil> I'm still thinking about the perfect zfs setup for nixos

19:35 <clever> and then / is pretty small most of the time

19:35 <sphalerite> and my dad runs some science experiments that will sometimes eat up all the disk space. I don't want that to crash my databases. Hence the reservation (and probably a quota on where that stuff lives, because I don't want it slowing down the system by filling up the pool)

19:35 <clever> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

19:35 <clever> amd/root 22G 6.8G 15G 31% /

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19:35 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh opened pull request #28244: Python: build 2.7 and 3.6 packages on Hydra again (master...hydrapython) https://git.io/v7QZl

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19:35 <sphalerite> clever: yeah, I have nix on its own too

19:36 <clever> a large chunk of that 6gig is systemd/coredump

19:36 <clever> and the journal

19:36 <Infinisil> What about having a dataset for /home and /root?

19:36 <bennofs1> somehow I always end up with this:

19:36 <clever> nothing for /root

19:36 <clever> but i do have one for /home

19:36 <bennofs1> /dev/sda6 70G 69G 529M 100% /

19:36 <sphalerite> tank/root used 488M -

19:37 <Infinisil> bennofs1: Could it be the case that you're not using zfs :O

19:37 <sphalerite> (tank/root is mounted on /)

19:37 <bennofs1> Infinisil: would zfs solve that?

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19:37 <Infinisil> I'll make it so tank itself is /

19:38 <clever> https://gist.github.com/cleverca22/d7c181719241169b1a8c3aed6063e7c6

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19:38 <Infinisil> bennofs1: Well, with zfs you wouldn't need to balance space between different filesystems, just a single pool, create as many as you want from that without worrying about how much each gets

19:38 <sphalerite> bennofs1: the compression might help in the short term, but if your pool is that full you'll start having massive performance issues

19:38 <clever> updated the gist with compression info

19:39 <clever> i'm seeing as much as 2x compression on /nix and / for my desktop

19:39 <clever> and /nix has 75gig

19:40 <sphalerite> https://gist.github.com/lheckemann/9e35e8f8d4469350653d8c431fd6a04b

19:40 <Infinisil> Having one for /var/lib would be nice..

19:40 <Infinisil> Is there any program that doesn't put system wide var stuff in /var/lib?

19:40 <sphalerite> of course

19:41 <sphalerite> most stuff logs to /var/log, for instance (either via journald or independently. The latter is a pain)

19:41 <Infinisil> Ah right, I guess I mean valuable data

19:41 <sphalerite> nginx logs to /var/spool/nginx in the default nixos config

19:41 <sphalerite> logs are valuable data

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19:41 <Infinisil> Eh, it's not like I'm losing user data when trashing logs

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19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QZS

19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9c3702a Vladimír Čunát: busybox: downgrade 1.27.1 -> 1.26.2...

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19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to release-17.03: https://git.io/v7QZ9

19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 1bdc06e Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.12.6 -> 4.12.7...

19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 6a886d5 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.42 -> 4.9.43...

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19:42 <sphalerite> I find my web server access logs to be highly valuable :)

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19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QZQ

19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 59e3468 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.12.6 -> 4.12.7

19:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5c29873 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.42 -> 4.9.43

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19:44 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QZh

19:44 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c0769dc Joachim Fasting: nixos/hardened profile: increase ASLR entropy

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19:45 <Infinisil> To each their own I guess

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19:45 <clever> Infinisil: i have also made a bash script that can fully automate a nixos install on zfs: https://github.com/cleverca22/nix-tests/blob/master/kexec/justdoit.nix#L33

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19:46 <Infinisil> clever: Yeah, I have something similar (+ a bit more to reset it, so you can test it easily)

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19:48 <Infinisil> I just bought 3 memory sticks, which I can now use for a fancy fully encrypted internal disk and booting from any one of the sticks which all contain keys to decrypt it secured with a password

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19:49 <bennofs1> 0

19:49 <Infinisil> In the process of automating it

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19:49 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Qnm

19:49 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f913554 Frederik Rietdijk: python.pkgs.gst-python: fix Python 3 build

19:49 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d0d8724 Frederik Rietdijk: python.pkgs.gst-python: move expression

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19:50 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #27805: pythonPackages.gst-python: Use correct package set (master...gst-python3) https://git.io/v74Ww

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19:50 <betaboon> FRidh: just did that. same result :/

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19:51 <Infinisil> Btw I wouldn't mind anybody looking at my PR to update Radicale, which hasn't seen a single reaction in 2 weeks :') https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/27826

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19:53 <bennofs1> oh, we are over 400 PRs? i remember the number being close to 300...

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19:53 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Qn8

19:53 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 09e0cc7 mimadrid: Update homepage attributes: http -> https...

19:53 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 13bbaee Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #27881 from mimadrid/fix/http-https...

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19:53 <FRidh> it can go from 300 to 400 in a matter of days...

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19:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #25065: binder and pybind11 packages (master...binder) https://git.io/v9v06

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19:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #23077: Python weasyprint and dependencies (master...wp) https://git.io/vDpPC

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19:55 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #19853: pythonPackages.mayavi and dependencies (master...mayavi) https://git.io/vPpAA

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19:56 <simpson> Huh. LyX uses aspell, but adding aspellDicts.en to the same environment that I've got lyx in doesn't cause LyX to see my dictionary.

19:56 <simpson> Anybody else done this adventure before?

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19:57 <FRidh> but it can find aspell?

19:57 <FRidh> aspell checks profiles for dictionaries if I recall correctly

19:57 <bennofs1> simpson: there's some code in nixos to set ASPELL_CONF based on profile afaik

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19:58 <bennofs1> and it will only check one profile, because that variable does not support multiple dirs

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19:58 <FRidh> I implemented aspellWithDicts once

19:58 <FRidh> pure version

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20:00 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28238: far2l: unstable-2017-05-09 -> unstable-2017-07-13 (master...far2l-2017-07-13) https://git.io/v7QJM

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20:00 <simpson> Oh, it uses hunspell. And also there's a configuration option for the path to dictionaries, which apparently isn't autodetected well.

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20:01 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28241: kubernetes-helm: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.1 (master...helm-2.5.1) https://git.io/v7QIh

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20:01 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28242: clipster: 1.0.1 -> 1.2.5 (master...clipster) https://git.io/v7Qt3

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20:02 <Infinisil> Sometimes I feel like FRidh is the only one ever closing PR's *claps*

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20:02 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28229: alt-ergo: use https instead of http to fetch archive (master...pr-alt-ergo) https://git.io/v7HFA

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20:02 <sphalerite> Ooh ooh, do mine next! https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/25274

20:02 <simpson> Yep, I needed to tell it to look in, say, /nix/store/b711j78hnpylkybyzjxz3nb1svl811wx-hunspell-dict-en-us-wordlist-2014.11.17/share/hunspell.

20:02 <ylwghst> ${nixos.tor}

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20:02 <ylwghst> can be this used to get tor bin path?

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20:02 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28217: vscode: 1.14.2 -> 1.15.0 (master...vscode_1_15_0) https://git.io/v7H2e

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20:03 <FRidh> Infinisil: ha, definitely not. Sometimes people have their own "sprints"

20:03 <FRidh> just started cleaning up some of my old PR's

20:04 <sphalerite> ylwghst: depends on where. In a nix expression within a string literal, yes

20:04 <FRidh> figured I might as well try to get the open PR's to below 400 again :)

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20:04 <ylwghst> sphalerite: thats my case

20:04 <ylwghst> sphalerite: what i will exactly get?

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20:04 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Qcf

20:04 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8933aca mimadrid: byobu: 5.112 -> 5.121

20:04 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 719a76c Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #28213 from mimadrid/update/byobu-5.121...

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20:05 <sphalerite> ylwghst: the store path to tor. You'll probably want to use "${pkgs.tor}/bin"

20:05 <ylwghst> sphalerite: i want to use it within ExecStart= in my systemd service defined in configuration.nix

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20:06 <clever> ylwghst: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-17.03/nixos/modules/services/security/tor.nix#L348

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20:08 <ylwghst> clever: thx

20:08 <ylwghst> wait

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20:08 <ylwghst> theres daemon available in nixpkgs?

20:08 <clever> its in the nixos side of things

20:08 <clever> just set services.tor.enable = true; and it will be installed and configured for you

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20:09 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28062: motu-client: 1.0.8 -> 1.4.0 (master...update_motu-client) https://git.io/v7XcH

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20:09 <ylwghst> good

20:11 <clever> ylwghst: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#services.tor

20:12 <catern> hey #nixos, I have various repositories checked out on my system, each with a default.nix to build them, and I need to locate different versions of nixpkgs for each of them

20:13 <sphalerite> so much SSH spam coming from China…

20:13 <catern> how should I approach this?

20:13 <catern> changing my NIX_PATH each time I want to work on a different project is... really lame...

20:13 <sphalerite> catern: you could use direnv to set the NIX_PATH

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20:13 <catern> I was thinking about it but that's a bit heavyweight I think

20:13 <manveru> direnv is awesome :D

20:14 <catern> isn't Nix supposed to free us from that kind of environmental manipulation, after all?

20:14 <sphalerite> no, it's just supposed to make it predictable :)

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20:14 <manveru> if you want pure... sure, but usually you want somewhat impure if you work on in a project :P

20:14 <clever> catern: instead of importing <nixpkgs>, just import (builtins.fetchurl foo), where foo is what you would have put into NIX_PATH

20:14 <catern> so what I've been considering right now is

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20:15 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #25804: gensim: added Gensim 2.1.0 and related tools (master...gensim-2.1.0) https://git.io/v9dCa

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20:15 <catern> having the default.nix do an (import ./base.nix)

20:15 <clever> catern: skip relying on NIX_PATH and just put the nixpkgs url directly into the default.nix

20:15 <catern> where base.nix points directly to the nixpkgs I want to use

20:15 <catern> then I can easily customize it etc.

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20:16 <catern> clever: hmm interesting

20:16 <manveru> i do it by having a nixpkgs.nix per project that has a fetchTarball for the commit of nixpkgs i use for it

20:16 <manveru> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mvXcl6uB/

20:16 <manveru> looks like that

20:16 <catern> that makes a lot of sense for individual projects

20:16 <manveru> use like that: with import (import ./nixpkgs.nix) {};

20:17 <catern> although in my case, that kind of versioning information is maintained outside the individual repositories, in a large list of commit hashes from each repo

20:17 <catern> so hardcoding a version of nixpkgs in my repo is weird

20:17 <catern> the version of nixpkgs would rather be injected in to the repo

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20:18 <catern> hmm....

20:18 <manveru> well, if your default.nix is part of the repo...

20:18 <catern> the default.nix is just a function

20:18 <catern> it takes all the deps as parameters

20:18 <manveru> i mean you can always pass nixpkgs as an argument to it

20:18 <catern> yes, but doing that manually on the command line is annoying

20:19 <manveru> that's why you set a default

20:19 <manveru> { nixpkgs ? (fetchTarball { url = "foo" sha256 = "bar"; }) }: yay

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20:20 <manveru> that way you can build it with another nixpkgs easily, but have a working default

20:21 <clever> if you call the argument pkgs, then pkgs.callPackage can populate it for you

20:21 <catern> the version of nixpkgs that I use changes rapidly (in my case it's actually nixpkgs + a bunch of additional things) so even a default is not workable, the version needs to always come from somewhere external

20:22 <catern> clever: ah, thanks for the point... yeah, I'm using pkgs.callPackage

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20:22 <manveru> well, you can make a branch for each nixpkgs commit you use?

20:22 <catern> (sorry, I was misleading... my default.nix is not actually a function - that's in a separate file. the default.nix can do whatever is most convenient)

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20:23 <catern> manveru: I mean what I'm considering right now is,

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20:23 <sphalerite> Does anyone use systemd services to manage docker containers at least semi-declaratively?

20:23 <manveru> then use fetchTarball without hash... like `fetchTarball { url = https://github.com/catern/nixpkgs/archive/project-a.tar.gz; }`

20:23 <catern> manveru: having that nixpkgs.nix or base.nix file be generated by some external thing

20:24 <sphalerite> or should I maybe be using runc for that?

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20:24 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/v7Qc6

20:24 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging e81e9e8 mimadrid: zziplib: 0.13.66 -> 0.13.67

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20:25 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28198: zziplib: 0.13.66 -> 0.13.67 (master...update/zziplib-0.13.67) https://git.io/v7HIp

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20:25 <catern> sphalerite: runc would make more sense at least, if you can

20:25 <manveru> man... wine on nixos for 64bit seems broken :(

20:25 <sphalerite> catern: what would stop me?

20:26 <catern> sphalerite: maybe you have lots of tooling around docker at the moment

20:26 <catern> and don't want to switch

20:27 <sphalerite> I have almost nothing, a few docker-compose files, that's it

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20:28 <sphalerite> also why must some software be so hard to package ;(

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20:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QcQ

20:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8da8a16 Bart Brouns: notmuch: 0.24.2 -> 0.25

20:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 111d430 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #28222 from magnetophon/notmuch...

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20:29 <sphalerite> hm maybe rkt would be nicer than runc

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20:32 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pikajude pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Qch

20:32 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6883119 Jude Taylor: add some overrides for ghc 7.10.3 to build ghcjs

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20:33 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Qcj

20:33 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 302e782 mimadrid: htslib: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.0

20:33 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ca45a26 mimadrid: samtools: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.0

20:33 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 15a99ae mimadrid: bcftools: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.0

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20:34 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28205: clib: 1.7.0 -> 1.8.0 (master...update/clib-1.8.0) https://git.io/v7HZJ

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20:36 <ylwghst> clever: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-17.03/nixos/modules/services/security/tor.nix#L348 how I should write these mkoptions?

20:37 <ylwghst> clever: can it be done this way https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b19c343a8c4f39aec1df7e02c04e99d9 ?

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20:38 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QCq

20:38 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b7bd842 Bart Brouns: zexy: fix build

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20:38 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28202: zexy: fix build (master...zexy) https://git.io/v7HYs

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20:39 <catern> hmmmmmmmm

20:39 <catern> I kind of want to use libraries

20:39 <catern> to find my libraries

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20:40 <catern> maybe I can stage it; I'll get nixpkgs from NIXPATH, and use the utilities in there to find the correct nixpkgs that I really want for my libraries

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20:40 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QCl

20:40 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 207ed51 Robert Helgesson: gkrellm: fix installation...

20:40 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2479740 Robert Helgesson: gkrellm: minor formatting fix

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20:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QCE

20:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f66b765 Sasha Delly: lib/maintainers.nix: added sdll

20:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 58b2848 Sasha Delly: cymem: init at 1.31.2

20:42 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fe17ed6 Sasha Delly: ftfy: init at 4.4.3

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20:42 <ylwghst> it doesnt installed tor.nix module srp 13 22:41:58 nixosLinux systemd[1]: tor.service: Service lacks both ExecStart= and ExecStop= setting.

20:42 <ylwghst> didnt

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20:46 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28210: mixxx: fix build (master...mixxx) https://git.io/v7HRj

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20:48 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/v7QCS

20:48 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.03 14e2a39 Robert Helgesson: faac: fix patch URLs...

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20:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] baldo opened pull request #28245: wineStaging, wineUnstable: 2.13 -> 2.14 (master...master) https://git.io/v7QWU

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20:54 <BlessJah> FRidh: did you look at ansible/boto3/botocore issue? (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/28171)

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20:55 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QWI

20:55 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 488db3d Mitsuhiro Nakamura: mathematica: fix library paths

20:55 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7aaea72 Mitsuhiro Nakamura: Simplify the sed script

20:55 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fb2302e Mitsuhiro Nakamura: Add missing 'math'

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20:56 <FRidh> BlessJah: no, sorry

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20:56 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QWL

20:56 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a77c7e9 Grant Wu: libtorrentRasterbar_1_0 1.0.10 -> 1.0.11

20:56 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c6fdb3d Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #28093 from grantwwu/bump_libtorrentRasterbar_1.0_series...

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20:56 <BlessJah> no problem, I'll remind you later this week

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20:57 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7QWq

20:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0b21848 Ryan Mulligan: zsnes: remove $STRIP from compiler options...

20:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9ed9ede Joachim F: Merge pull request #27963 from ryantm/zsnes...

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20:57 <BlessJah> FRidh: does anything come to your mind that I could check?

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20:58 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #27378: pythonPackages.django_extensions : init at 1.8.1 (master...add-python-django-extensions) https://git.io/vQ7qh

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20:59 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #27796: postage: init at 3.2.17 & add NixOS module (master...postage) https://git.io/v78wE

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21:05 <FRidh> BlessJah: not really

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21:06 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #28245: wineStaging, wineUnstable: 2.13 -> 2.14 (master...master) https://git.io/v7QWU

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21:06 <FRidh> yay, below 400

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21:11 <MP2E> hi! is this part of the manual still up to date? https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-ssh-substituter

21:11 <LnL> !m FRidh

21:11 <[0__0]> You're doing good work, FRidh!

21:12 <MP2E> reason I ask, is I can get nix-copy-closure working just fine and can ssh into one of my nixos machines

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21:12 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #26313: gh-ost: init at 1.0.36 (master...gh-ost) https://git.io/vHuUw

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21:12 <MP2E> but --option ssh-substituter-hosts user@serverdomain.org isn't working for nixos-rebuild or nix-env, I suspect it might have somtehing to do with my ssh keys

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21:14 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QlR

21:14 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6c41803 Joachim Fasting: ldns: get rid of reference to openssl.dev...

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21:14 <MP2E> I have the public key set using 'nix.sshServe.keys' and also have my private key loaded with ssh-agent and ssh-add, but it's stlil giving me authentication failures every time i try...

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21:15 <MP2E> does it need a specific type of key maybe? i'm using rsa and the example uses dss

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21:17 <clever> MP2E: nix-daemon is probably the one initiation the ssh connection

21:17 <clever> and it cant find your agent

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21:20 <MP2E> hmm. how i was running it was a simple 'eval $(ssh-agent)' on my user account

21:20 <clever> but nix-daemon runs as root

21:21 <clever> and doesnt inherit that env var

21:21 <MP2E> ahh that makes sense

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21:32 <MP2E> aha. I needed to use 'nix-ssh' as the user. I'm sure that getting ssh-agent to start via my nixos configuration file, instead of manually trying to do it, helped as well.

21:33 <MP2E> so in other words i was using 'user@serverdomain.org' but I needed 'nix-ssh@serverdomain.org'

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21:33 <MP2E> works great now :)

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21:37 <gnuhurd> I'm making a nix package that fetches a repo from GitHub; how do I know the sha256 sum of the repo? the creator doesn't supply it. do I just sha256sum the .tar.gz?

21:38 <catern> dear #nixos, naming question

21:38 <catern> libfoo or fooliab?

21:38 <catern> foolib*

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21:39 <gnuhurd> foolib

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21:45 <catern> okay

21:45 <catern> next question

21:45 <catern> is there a way to run a shell command from a Nix expression? ridiculously impure, I know

21:46 <bennofs> catern: builtins.runCommand?

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21:47 <catern> is that sandboxed or does it run as the current user?

21:47 <catern> yeah, that creates a derivation, right?

21:47 <catern> I want to actually inspect the world around me to decide what to do

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21:48 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Q43

21:48 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1995dbf Cray Elliott: obs-studio: 20.0.0 -> 20.0.1

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21:48 <catern> specifically, I'm writing a default.nix that will sit in a directory that will have some variable number of package source repos checked out into subdirectories, and I want to be able to detect what repos are currently checked out, and build them all against each other if checked out and against a default version if not checked out

21:49 <clever> catern: builtins.readDir

21:49 <catern> I am already able to do every part except for the "determine which repos are checked out" part

21:49 <clever> nix-repl> builtins.readDir "/"

21:49 <clever> { ".#mnt.lck" = "regular"; bin = "directory"; boot = "directory"; "config.json" = "regular"; dev = "directory"; etc = "directory"; hax = "directory";

21:49 <catern> clever: yeah but :( the repos are nested in directories...

21:49 <clever> recursively readDir

21:49 <catern> and there is some slightly tricky logic to determine whether it's a repo or not...

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21:50 <catern> I don't really want to do that logic from Nix :(

21:50 <clever> -rw------- 1 root root 0 Apr 9 2016 .#mnt.lck

21:50 <catern> (OK, admittedly the logic is just "does it contain a .git or .hg file/folder")

21:50 <clever> whats this? lol

21:50 <catern> emacs temp file I believe?

21:50 <clever> its in /

21:51 <catern> blargh

21:51 <catern> oh also yeah readDir just plain won't work

21:51 <catern> hmm

21:52 <catern> well, s/plain won't work/is way too slow because it's a huge tree/

21:52 <catern> maybe I can just

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21:52 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7Q4R

21:52 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ed0af35 Alexander V. Nikolaev: wineUnstable: 2.13 -> 2.14...

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21:52 <catern> put a hook on checking out a new codebase

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21:53 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E closed pull request #28236: wineUnstable: 2.13 -> 2.14 (master...wine-update) https://git.io/v7Qe1

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21:53 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7Q42

21:53 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 276d747 Robert Helgesson: josm: 12450 -> 12545

21:53 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fbfe53b Robert Helgesson: eclipse-plugin-autodetect-encoding: 1.8.3 -> 1.8.4

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21:56 <avn> MP2E: ty for review ;)

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22:01 <catern> there's no way to do regex and capture in Nix, right? :(

22:02 <catern> argh

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22:02 <catern> there's also no way to do readlink in Nix either, right?

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22:05 <avn> catern: what you try to implement?

22:06 <catern> specifically, I'm writing a default.nix that will sit in a directory that will have some variable number of package source repos checked out into subdirectories, and I want to be able to detect what repos are currently checked out, and build them all against each other if checked out and against a default version if not checked out

22:06 <catern> readdir is not sufficient because they can be nested in subdirs

22:06 <catern> (and so walking the whole tree would be way too slow)

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22:07 <catern> I can populate a file on disk with the list of local repos, and keep it up to date when that list changes

22:07 <avn> catern: why noy to use fetchgit/fetchFromGitHub instead?

22:07 <catern> avn: local changes

22:07 <catern> but now I'm wondering if I can even read that list :)

22:08 <catern> (in a file on disk)

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22:08 <catern> ah if I write it as JSON

22:08 <catern> that will work

22:08 <avn> catern: local changes make things non-deterministics, nix in first stage calculate names, then run builds

22:09 <catern> huh?

22:09 <catern> it's not non-deterministic

22:09 <catern> it will recalculate the hash

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22:10 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/14e2a39b60 (from 83 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.03-small)

22:10 <avn> catern: well, it just my suggestion... I can be wrong. I try to use nix-shell to develop/debug each singe component, and switch to full deployment when stuff become complex

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22:15 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7QBA

22:15 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 059d722 Michael Weiss: sshfs-fuse: 2.9 -> 2.10

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22:23 <cbarrett> I tried installing nix today and it looks like the installer is busted with the fish shell :(

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22:30 <cbarrett> filed https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1512

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22:38 <catern> cbarrett: there should have been a messaging saying to add something to your shell profile, was there such a message?

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22:41 <catern> okay, I am convinced that I should write this data that I want, to disk as JSON, and keep it up to date whenever it changes, outside of Nix

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23:06 <michaelpj> catern: check out builtins.exec. Very evil, you need a special option to turn it on (https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/1295)

23:06 <michaelpj> might be what you need

23:07 <catern> oh boy oh boy :)

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23:07 <catern> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/136/938/fa5.jpg

23:07 <catern> thanks :)

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23:08 <michaelpj> obviously this breaks purity horribly, so it's an enormous footgun

23:09 <adelbertc> how do people generally manage their Xresources/Xdefaults config file in NixOS?

23:10 <catern> michaelpj: yeah, for my immediate use case, I think I probably should just arrange things such that what I want is possible with just fromJson and readFile. but I'll keep this evil in mind for the future :)

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23:12 <cbarrett> @catern no

23:13 <cbarrett> "Before Nix will work in your existing shells, you'll need to either run [ snip ] or close them and open them again. Other than that, you should be ready to go."

23:13 <cbarrett> searched the scrollback for "fish" as well, nothing

23:13 <catern> hmm

23:14 <spear2> is there a current way to pretty print aterm? i have an old note about pp-aterm but i can't find the package

23:14 <michaelpj> adelbertc: looks like we just merge in whatever's in your home directory? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/services/x11/display-managers/default.nix#L101

23:14 <cbarrett> @catern I have to log off for now, follow up on the ticket please?

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23:15 <cbarrett> tyvm

23:16 <adelbertc> michaelpj: oh interesting

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23:22 <michaelpj> that said, I have no idea what that does. I just grepped for Xresources in nixpkgs :D

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23:56 <adelbertc> hmm so i have `services.xserver.windowManager.xmonad.enable = true;` set in my configuration.nix and it was working fine. then just now i added `services.xserver.videoDrivers = [ "ati_unfree" ];` , nixos-rebuild switch, and then reboot

23:56 <adelbertc> and now X doesnt start on login?