<joepie91>
oh, I have no issue with people who have difficulty with social cues... nor with opinionated people... but when it becomes clear that they don't actually have any intention of respectfully interacting with others, that's where I draw the line :)
<samueldr>
github actions were actually better in their early beta...
<samueldr>
... workflows had a graphical representation, with lines from action to each others, once parsed
<samueldr>
and it used that new~ish config language from hashicorp
<samueldr>
now it's just floaty YAML nonsense :/
<samueldr>
that explains why I couldn't remember the name
<samueldr>
it's hashicorp configuration language
<gchristensen>
"the Debian project already closed half of the 3300 filed bugs related to the Python 2 removal in Debian GNU/Linux 11 "Bullseye,""
<fuzen>
I wish Spotify would hurry up and get rid of python2 dependencies. It's the only thing I have that is using python2
<gchristensen>
how about git?
<fuzen>
Does git use py2?
<gchristensen>
seems to
<gchristensen>
mine does
<fuzen>
It's an optional dependency
<fuzen>
For helper scripts
<gchristensen>
yeah, but close doesn't count when dropping py2 is the goal :P
<fuzen>
Oh its just `libxss` that is using py2 not spotify. Once that dependency is gone, python2 is gone from my machine
<fuzen>
Not sure why Spotify needs that though...
<joepie91>
to enable support for XSS attacks, of course!
<joepie91>
:P
<samueldr>
screen-saver detection
<samueldr>
probably transitive from chromium
<samueldr>
like spotify probably doesn't itself
<infinisil>
nixops still seems to use python 2 for me..
<infinisil>
And pass
<infinisil>
Wait no pass depends on git
<fuzen>
Ah, thats probably what its using for forced screen detection. Maybe ill try force removing python2 and see what breaks
<fuzen>
Err, screen lock. It pauses when the screen locks
<clever>
mono has a single shell script that uses python, and is likely optiona
<samueldr>
inkscape
<joepie91>
git, playonlinux, nixops, npm, buncha arm-none-eabi stuff?, gimp, electrum, VS code, webtorrent (both of those probably due to electron), openocd...
<joepie91>
yakuake?
<joepie91>
do all these things really use python2?
<infinisil>
python 2 is still default right? Then it's not too unexpected
<aanderse>
oh the irony of protonmail sending me an e-mail thanking me for helping "build a private internet" and then linking to facebook
<samueldr>
I'm at the point, when working on "CI workflows" where all my commit messages are onomatopeias
<samueldr>
primal sounds
<samueldr>
because of how annoying it is to test said workflows since it kinda has to happen on the remote machine
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<samueldr>
(continuing from #nixos) the archive program is weird
<samueldr>
they'll skip any binaries over IIRC 100KiB (or was it 10?)
<samueldr>
so many of these "archived" repos will be broken
<gchristensen>
yup...
<samueldr>
pictures?
<samueldr>
there were no pictures in 2019
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<infinisil>
I've recently started using slack.. Does it scroll around randomly for other people too or just me?
<infinisil>
Like whenever I resize the window perhaps. I have to scroll down all the way again
<infinisil>
Really annoying
<infinisil>
Especially because slack's infinite timeline is lazy, so the scroll bar just pops back up when you arrive at the bottom and it loads some more..
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<joepie91>
samueldr: they'll also apparently do the default branch?
<joepie91>
which seems... odd... when only saving deviations is basically a core part of git's design
<samueldr>
yeah
<joepie91>
dunno, it feels like another case of overpromising
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<andi->
infinisil: yes it is super annoying
<andi->
infinisil: it does it even on the android app... I do not get it. I wonder what slack is using internally to not realize that issue.
<infinisil>
Damn
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<cransom>
it used to feel real nice to clack it down to hang up the phone. it might appeal if i really ever talked to someone on a phone anymore.
<cransom>
heh, tis the season for protein folding and supplementary house heat. i spun up the folding at home client on the machine with the threadripper and it's using 300watt hours.
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<samueldr>
(previous RT to my last link is the one I linked beforehand)
<drakonis_>
mega oof
<savanni>
That sounds painful. :(
<cransom>
so. what is the performance comparison between arm and x86 for the current generation?
<samueldr>
still hard to compare, as you'd have to compare chips for similar usage in perfs/power
<samueldr>
which is not always available
<samueldr>
e.g. you won't have your i9-9999 or whatever their big numberwang is currently, readily available in the ARM space, except if you're a special customer (or rent from them)
<cransom>
i was just thinking desktop/server market, if there are offerings that are even comparable. i hear arm and i only think raspberry pi type performance, which is ok for what it is, but it wasn't going to be as snappy as x86 cpus from a few years before.
<samueldr>
there's no "desktop" market, yet, really... there's workstation, which is starting to get in place, hopefully
<samueldr>
there's mobility-first, think laptops
<samueldr>
current/previous ARM server systems are geared more towards high parallel work, think 96 cores per CPU
<samueldr>
so, in that sense, they are competitive, but raw number crunching per core was also lower
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<elvishjerricco>
So there's been a boot rom exploit in the A5-A11 cpus in iOS devices, enabling jailbreaking. I wonder if it could also be used to hijack the entire boot chain and load a completely custom operating system.
<pie_>
ehehe
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
I believe there's already people working on Linux for it
<elvishjerricco>
samueldr: So when are you gonna get NixOS on iPhone X? ;)
<samueldr>
*I* am not
<samueldr>
you might :)
<samueldr>
though, IIRC, it is tethered, meaning that you need something to do its magic on reboot
<samueldr>
so kinda clunky if you need another device to push an exploit on reboot
<samueldr>
but... a "solved" problem, since the nintendo switch has basically the same requirements
<samueldr>
so similar solutions could happen if needed down the road
<elvishjerricco>
Hm, with a quick google, I don't see any news on people attempting to run linux with it.
<samueldr>
I haven't been able to find the info since it's all about running the tool on Linux
<samueldr>
but I don't think there's anything yet... just people saying they're working on it
<elvishjerricco>
Yea. But at least it's theoretically possible.
<samueldr>
(a while ago on twitter, probably lost to time now)
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<worldofpeace>
ooohhhh matrix. they've done it again.
<samueldr>
hm?
<worldofpeace>
I believe the bridge is dead to IRC. IMHO
<worldofpeace>
only now have I realized people have been thinking I've been unavailable, when actually...
<worldofpeace>
a facepalm truely not worth two weeks of time 👏
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<pie_>
oh noo
<pie_>
time to write a bot that checks if matrix is still online for you :p
<worldofpeace>
It's seriously glitch at this point
<worldofpeace>
and not even the good kind
<samueldr>
:/
<samueldr>
what's worse than broken things, are undetectably broken things
<samueldr>
like, are you ignoring me, busy, or on a broken bridge? :$
<joepie91>
worldofpeace: huh, two weeks? the bridge issues only date from yesterday
<gchristensen>
several messages between worldofpeace and I went undelivered apparently
<joepie91>
really? that's odd
<worldofpeace>
it's much worse
<pie_>
meanwhile, in ##prolog <aindilis> sort of, I've written a semi-automatic packager https://github.com/aindilis/packager for Debian, which just was hard coded stuff, but I'm working to record traces of users packaging and feed to ML programs that can repeat