<aanderse>
oh my goodness... another person using apacheHttpd on nixos! its like an early christmas present! now there are roughly 6 of us!
<infinisil>
Hehe
<ivan>
I use it too
<aanderse>
😲 7!
<aanderse>
ivan: what is your github handle?
<infinisil>
aanderse: What does it have over nginx?
<infinisil>
Or why do you use it instead of nginx?
<aanderse>
infinisil: don't know, i've never used nginx
<ivan>
aanderse: ivan
<infinisil>
Ah I see
<infinisil>
I guess I'd say the same if somebody asked my why i use nginx and not httpd
<aanderse>
before my job required me to be an apache admin apache was the web server i used here and there mostly because nginx wasn't popular yet
<ivan>
nginx has more static requests/sec and probably a better configuration language
<ivan>
apache has great directory listings :-)
<aanderse>
ivan: thanks, pinged you on something
<aanderse>
where i work we use apache and that will never change so learning nginx to any detailed level mostly seems like a waste of time for me at this point
<pie_>
gchristensen: ask profpatsch about execline
<gchristensen>
he's who I learned about it from :)
<gchristensen>
I wrote that execline program in order to find medium sized shell scripts to rewrite in execline
<pie_>
ah hehe
<pie_>
i have a git question
<pie_>
is there a tool that will keep databases of git repos in a central place and automatically notice if it already has something
<pie_>
i keep cloning nixpkgs all over my disk because im a dummy
<colemickens>
yall know much about home automation gear? zigbee vs zwave, etc (I'm not dying to have lots of stuff that wants ext internet access via wifi)
<pie_>
I think emilydoes some electronics but idk...
<pie_>
* emily
<samueldr>
only thing I know is philips hue are good in that regard; they don't require the bridge to have internet access
<samueldr>
I never made an account for them to work
<samueldr>
and they have sane fail handling since the later updates
<samueldr>
they will keep their last on/off state on power loss
<samueldr>
unless it's "deliberate" enough, so you can force a light open by flicking the switch
<samueldr>
a light on*
<gchristensen>
my Hue is on its own vlan without public internet access, can confirm, it is good
<samueldr>
though, before that last update, a lengthy enough power failure would blast the lights on on resume
<gchristensen>
and its local bridge thing will give you an API key like that too so really can work forever
<samueldr>
oh right, forgot about that, its API is documented, and locally accessible
<samueldr>
imo, a good example of how to make things IoT-able, while still keeping them sane offline
<gchristensen>
+1
<samueldr>
I researched every other options available, and they all had bad requirements, like direct bluetooth pairing to an app (ugh)
<samueldr>
or per-bulb direct wi-fi access
<gchristensen>
extremely yikes
<samueldr>
the spectrum is already crowded enough where I live, that per-bulb wi-fi would almost make it a certainty that they'd fail
<samueldr>
sometimes my phone drops off of the wi-fi and prefers LTE it's so bad
<colemickens>
that's why I'm looking at zwave/zigbee. It seems like across the board they just work with a zwave/zigbee hub (or a RPi4 with a usb-looking radio stick plugged in)
<colemickens>
zwave is non 2.4Ghz, but seems less open than zigbee
<samueldr>
hue are IIRC zigbee compliant
<gchristensen>
yeah I think it is zigbee
<samueldr>
you can adope non-hue devices in hue
<samueldr>
adopt*
<colemickens>
I think so. That and the Tradfi or w/e from Ikea.
<colemickens>
I'm DIYing it if I'm doing this stuff. I'm too paranoid and too much of a control freak.
<samueldr>
tradfri wasn't available here when I looked so I don't know their state
<colemickens>
I've seen people do some very, very impressive things with a few components and Home Assistant. Watched a couple 8 minute videos that walked through using smart meters to get usage data into Grafana. That was inspiring.
<samueldr>
at one point I had ambitions
<gchristensen>
oh yeah colemickens I do that
<samueldr>
the app works well enough to program simple routines for me
<samueldr>
the hue bridge can have locally saved routines, which is quite nice
<gchristensen>
it is a bit spooky because I also read my neighbor's meeters
<samueldr>
no need for a whole cloud infra to manage my routines
<colemickens>
I'm hoping it's not a "whole cloud infra" kind of things. the HA stuff looked very yaml drive... oops. maybe it is a whole cloud infra thing ;)
<samueldr>
oh, I was subtexting the "smart" bulbs from "smart" "IoT" "vendors"
<samueldr>
like those from bestbuy's service that got shutdown
<colemickens>
aha yeah
<gchristensen>
colemickens: see your PMs :)
<infinisil>
I just spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out how to use xmlstarlet or xmllint to extract an attribute from an xpath
<infinisil>
Ended up giving up, using ripgrep now
<infinisil>
So, if anybody wants to listen to random This Week in Chiptune eps, one of my favorite music podcasts ever, you can do so with `curl http://thisweekinchiptune.libsyn.com/rss | rg 'url="(.?*)"' -or '$1' | mpv --playlist=- --shuffle`