<drakonis>
this is a lot of new packages getting added on a daily basis
<drakonis>
is there any numbers on the current rate?
<drakonis>
other than being 10 new packages a day?
<ottidmes>
drakonis: I guess you could use GitHub API v4 and write a query that counts the commits that have "init at" from a certain date and calculate with that, but that would show a lower bound, because not all packages are introduced with a commit message like that
<drakonis>
yeah
<clever>
ottidmes: i would just `git log --short | grep 'init at'` i think
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<samueldr>
the most important git push --force are those with typos
<jackdk>
--force-with-lease FTW
<samueldr>
yeah, I was being short here :)
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<ottidmes>
gchristensen: that is probably even better, since it would catch new packages regardless of commit message, but it was drakonis asking the question, but they are offline ATM, I just gave a possible answer ;)
<srhb>
gchristensen: The "Doubly so" for DST is gold.
<gchristensen>
HAH!
<sphalerite>
+13 is also nice
<__monty__>
+13, +14 do these people not understand time?
<__monty__>
Or is it more practical like not having a 23-24h difference between close regions?
<gchristensen>
timezones are sort of meaningless when your day is 6mo long
<srhb>
I wonder what the average education level in Antarctica is.
<srhb>
I'm guessing "very, very high"
<gchristensen>
:D
<__monty__>
gchristensen: Yeah, which makes it strange it's not just all UTC+0.
<gchristensen>
the perfect opportunity to make a Troll timezone
<__monty__>
Heh, bits also have DST in *summer*.
<__monty__>
Well, in their *winter* I guess.
<srhb>
__monty__: Wouldn't that make sense for all of the southern hemisphere?
<srhb>
Right..
<srhb>
insofar as DST makes sense at all.
<srhb>
I feel so conflicted about the potential EU abolishment of DST. On one hand I personally want this to happen. On the other, the hearings are completely unfair, as witnessed by the clueless votes of preference of one or the other "future time" among summer and normal time :P
<__monty__>
I like how many people complain DST "complicates" timekeeping. For any situation where accurate timekeeping is important it's like the least of their troubles.
<joepie91>
and conveniently, the next day a widely-publicized 'scoop' appeared about merging Whatsapp and Instagram messaging into FB Messenger, which got way more widely reported than this fraud case
<ldlework>
I went back to Ubuntu! :O
<__monty__>
o.O
<ldlework>
yeah right.
<samueldr>
wat?
<ldlework>
:P
<samueldr>
bad rng on the nixos challenge?
<__monty__>
Is that an ongoing thing? I thought it was just a hypothetical challenge.
<samueldr>
kinda joking, but it's a serious thing, but not something someone would do over and over, I think
<gchristensen>
I took the challenge, __monty__
<gchristensen>
ldlework: what or? :o
<gchristensen>
for*
<__monty__>
samueldr: Having a random systemd timer that wipes your box would be pretty ballsy tbh.
<__monty__>
gchristensen: Did you make sure to have a backup first? Any surprises?
<gchristensen>
I did make sure, not a lot of surprises
<gchristensen>
mostly just disappointed in myself with how many repos I had left uncommitted
<gchristensen>
I have it setup now to wipe / on every boot, except /home, /nix, /boot, and the NetworkManager wifi network files
<joepie91>
gchristensen: hehe, that explains your tweet :)
<simpson>
samueldr: Yeah, there's at least three valid ways to read that utterance, all of which are correct and roughly what I meant. English is a hell of a language.
<__monty__>
gchristensen: Why not a ramdisk?
<gchristensen>
I didn't want /tmp eating up my ram
<elvishjerricco>
How bad would it be to make activation into something that requires user input to decrypt certain files? Kind of like stage1 asking for a disk password, but on every activation, not just boot
<gchristensen>
sounds maximally annoying :P
<joepie91>
[16:39] <simpson> The UK will be rather more sudden; we'll have to wait for May to see.
<joepie91>
I award you one internets
<elvishjerricco>
My worry is mostly about most things assuming activation requires no user interaction
<gchristensen>
right
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<__monty__>
gchristensen: Someone asked whether you didn't need /etc/fstab to start up properly. I guess it's just generated early enough?
<cransom>
everyone cooed about the xps13 and it working great with linux (and even shipped with) and i tried one out ~3 years ago. it had some quirks i didn't have the patience for in nixos that were worked around in ubuntu, but not well documented, and i sent it back :(
<gchristensen>
my 9560 has worked fabulously
<gchristensen>
this isn't a problem at GRUB, so I'm sort of hoping it has to do with some like, flickerless config
<samueldr>
I wouldn't want to keep using a machine which has such issues on the OS it shipped with
<samueldr>
it might be caused by a further failure
<gchristensen>
hmm
<samueldr>
don't DELLs have a diagnostic tool in their firmware?
<gchristensen>
oh, yes!
<samueldr>
though I would still not trust the machine if it said "everything's okay" with such weird line flickers
<gchristensen>
even if it only happens in ubuntu?
<samueldr>
especially if it happens with their customised to the machine ubuntu
<gchristensen>
aye
<samueldr>
unless they have an errata published explaining the situation
<ldlework>
I know about #go
<samueldr>
maybe it's fine, and an update fixes some weird issue within their master image
<samueldr>
gchristensen: I hope it has NBD on-site support
<gchristensen>
no troubles on the self-diagnostics, and no flicker there
<samueldr>
might be related to when a row of pixel has different shades in?
<samueldr>
and yes, possibly related to some setting given to the gpu
<gchristensen>
hrm.
<gchristensen>
wasn't able to boot nixos's iso as uefi
<gchristensen>
first, I'm going to `dd` the original disk contents over to my NAS.
<infinisil>
gchristensen: Wait what's the problem in the picture you sent, these lines in the screen?
<gchristensen>
yeah
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<gchristensen>
hmm.... the lines are not a problem in the nixos live cd .... it seems to only be a problem in ubuntu... more experiments needed ...
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<gchristensen>
just did a nixos install then destroyed the root dataset and recreated it, rebooted without reinstalling, and it worked. neat.
<sphalerite>
\o/ I got my internet connection working the way I wanted it
<sphalerite>
phone socket <=> TP-Link VR600v bridging only (as modem/ethernet bridge only) <=> Linksys WRT3200ACM running OpenWRT as PPPoE client to actually do the internets
<sphalerite>
now I need to replace openwrt with nixwrt :D
<samueldr>
ARM-based SOC
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<samueldr>
(Cortex-A9)
<samueldr>
if it's the v1
<samueldr>
512MB ram, u-boot, the main issue is 256MB for the NAND I think
<samueldr>
(and possibly an ancient u-boot)
<samueldr>
routers are becoming more and more like simpler SBCs
<sphalerite>
well the MIPS nixwrt phramware image is 4.2MB so that should work
<sphalerite>
and what's relaly nice about this device as well is that it has dual boot, so I can keep the working openwrt for when I *really* want internet more than I want to fiddle around with nixwrt :p
<samueldr>
ooh, nice
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<sphalerite>
(I say "the MIPS nixwrt phramware image"; I mean the phramware image for backuphost.nix on the mt300n_v2)
<samueldr>
I'm kinda bummed by my router, it's ARM-based, but there is no driver for the 5GHz antenna in OpenWRT
<sphalerite>
aww
<sphalerite>
it's a shame telent isn't here right now so I could pester him with questions :p
<sphalerite>
like "does this patch make sense on ARM"
<samueldr>
still use openwrt, only reason I got it is for routing gigabit around the house, 5GHz is served by the previous router
<sphalerite>
and "could you make the blog posts before "argumentum ad arborem fabrica" easier to access?"
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<sphalerite>
well there's always twitter :)
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<samueldr>
hmmm
<samueldr>
anyone on unstable on their system?
* samueldr
checks for something else meanwhile
* samueldr
updates a machine to unstable to triple-check while he ruminates
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