#nixos-chat on 2019-01-03

2018-10-11 19:40 gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat

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11:45 <Myrl-saki> Twey: What keyboard do you use for Plover?

11:46 <Myrl-saki> Twey: And did you change the keycaps?

11:49 <Twey> Myrl-saki: I'm using the Ergodox. I have a red (switches) at work and a blue at home, works best with reds

11:49 <Twey> Myrl-saki: If you get the unprinted keycaps they come sculpted and asymmetrical, and you can turn the top row upside-down to minimize the gap between the keys — works pretty well

11:50 <Twey> Myrl-saki: I have a Plover layout in the qmk repo :)

11:50 <Twey> Oops

11:50 <Myrl-saki> Oh cool. What do you mean by Plover layout?

11:51 <Myrl-saki> I have a split keyboard myself, and the SA keycaps don't work well with Plover, IMO.

11:51 <Twey> Myrl-saki: Yeah, I have a set of those ones and they're terrible for it

11:52 <Myrl-saki> Twey: OTOH, they're amazing for typing.

11:52 <Twey> Myrl-saki: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/layouts/community/ergodox/twey/keymap.c

11:53 <Myrl-saki> I have another keyboard dedicated for gaming, so maybe I should attach it every once in a while to refresh myself on Plover. :P

11:53 <Twey> Myrl-saki: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/layouts/community/ergodox/twey/keymap.c#L99

11:53 <Myrl-saki> Twey: What's the use of making a dedicated keymap?

11:54 <Twey> Myrl-saki: Actually that one's a bit out of date, https://github.com/Twey/qmk_firmware/blob/master/layouts/community/ergodox/twey/keymap.c#L99

11:55 <Twey> Myrl-saki: Those keys are not keyboard keys, I emulate a serial console over USB

11:55 <Myrl-saki> Ohhh

11:55 <Twey> Myrl-saki: And speak TX Bolt to Plover

11:55 <Myrl-saki> Holy crap.

11:55 <Myrl-saki> Twey: That means you don't have to worry about NKRO fuckery, right?

11:55 <Twey> Myrl-saki: To some extent yeah

11:56 <Twey> Myrl-saki: It's not really a problem with the Ergodox anyway though

11:56 <Myrl-saki> Right.

11:56 <Twey> It means that I don't have to worry about switching Plover on and off and making sure it's in sync

11:56 <Myrl-saki> Oh.

11:56 <Twey> Plover just stays on, but it totally ignores keyboard keys, it only listens to the emulated serial device

11:56 <Myrl-saki> So you keep Plover on, but on machine mode, and switch to the layout?

11:57 <Twey> Right

11:59 <Twey> Used to be I'd accidentally send a Plover command sometimes when Plover wasn't running (usually the toggle), and send some random nonsense command to whatever I was focusing at the time :þ

12:00 <Myrl-saki> Twey: Forgive my messy workplace.

12:00 <Myrl-saki> Twey: https://i.imgur.com/njuvBR6.jpg

12:00 <Twey> Plover also does MIDI, if I did that I could save some USBs I think

12:00 <Twey> Ergodox+QMK only supports emulating up to six USB devices and the serial console takes up like three

12:01 <Myrl-saki> Twey: If you will look at the spaces, they're actually raised a bit, doubly making Plover had to use. :P

12:01 <Twey> Yeah, that looks truly painful

12:01 <Myrl-saki> Twey: If I swap it with some DSA keycaps, it should be decent though.

12:05 <Twey> Myrl-saki: Mirabai Knight actually sells some steno-shaped keycaps

12:05 <Twey> Myrl-saki: If you're going to buy keycaps for steno, maybe get those?

12:05 <Twey> http://plover.stenoknight.com/2017/03/stenotoppers-3d-printed-keys-for-your.html — oh, maybe you have to print them yourself

12:06 <Myrl-saki> Oh true.

12:06 <Myrl-saki> There's also toppers or whatever it's claled.

12:07 <Myrl-saki> Twey: I might opt for that instead, since I'd rather change back to keycaps on the fly.

12:08 <Myrl-saki> Thanks for reminding me of that. I hope it will work out well, considering that my keyboard is already matrixy from the start. :P

12:20 <Myrl-saki> Oh, apparently, toppers are also keycaps.

13:18 <Twey> Myrl-saki: Yeah, they're just specially-shaped key caps

13:18 <Twey> But I think they cover some keys so probably not suitable for typing

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