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<simpson>
Hm, to guess, is it written in Go, configured with YAML, lackluster docs on a .io domain?
<iqubic>
Sounds like what I would expect.
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<ivegotasthma>
can someone tell me why my nix build env doesn't inject the zlib headers into my python virtualenv wheel build? https://dpaste.de/yPhr/raw it's very simple, but I'm completely new to this and don't know how to debug it.
<ivan>
try propagatedBuildInputs? not sure
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<gchristensen>
ivan: #nixos is probablya better bet for questions :)
<ivan>
ivegotasthma: ^
<gchristensen>
oops, thanks ivan
<ivegotasthma>
gchristensen: already asked, no response, but I managed to fix it myself
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<manveru>
adisbladis: i think i found a but in vgo2nix
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<infinisil>
Man, I'm always struggling with key bindings
<infinisil>
emacs, vim, X, what have you not all want key bindings
<infinisil>
They have defaults, they sometimes use the key codes and sometimes the alphas
<infinisil>
Defaults overlap, defaults might not play well with your vim/emacs habits
<infinisil>
And there's so many ways you can do things, but it's always pretty annoying, to me at least
<MichaelRaskin>
You forgot to mention browsers, right?
<infinisil>
Oh yeah
<MichaelRaskin>
Emacs, Vim, X — there I at least can have a pretty long-term VCS-friendly binding definition lists…
<infinisil>
I wonder if there ever will be some unified key binding protocol
<MichaelRaskin>
Will it be as horrible and mission creepy as unified init from systemd?
<infinisil>
Maybe have a set of semantic keys, meaning "save", "new <foo>", and applications can't have their own config, they just receive such events
<simpson>
infinisil: You can set up inputrc for many things, at least.
<joepie91>
infinisil: afaik KDE does this to *some* degree
<infinisil>
simpson: Ah neat, at least that's something
<MichaelRaskin>
Hm, I think X11 actually has a lot of key names that could be used like that…
<infinisil>
joepie91: The semantic key thing?
<joepie91>
yeah
<joepie91>
at least for KDE applications
<joepie91>
I recall some sort of centralized keybinding configuration thingem
<infinisil>
Nice
<infinisil>
I guess this would solve the "everything has a different config" problem. But the "where the hell should I assign these bindings to" problem is still there
<infinisil>
And the keycode vs character thing
<MichaelRaskin>
Then there are some applications that manage to break deadkeys in new and creative ways
<MichaelRaskin>
For example, in Firefox they might work and might not work and… it is complicated
<infinisil>
Yeah..
<infinisil>
I mean, as long as there's so many possibilities for the application developers to do stuff (choosing how they interact with the inputs), there won't ever be a unified anything.
<infinisil>
But if these possibilities are too restricted, they won't code for those platforms
<infinisil>
Example: macOS app store
<infinisil>
Ohh another problem I missed: Different keyboards
<infinisil>
Not all of them have the same keys, especially not the more esoteric ones
<MichaelRaskin>
And then you turn around and look at the notebook keyboards
<infinisil>
This seems like a non-trivial problem yet to be solved
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<MichaelRaskin>
On a 15.6'' Asus you at least have physically enouhg keycaps at reasonable locations (but I find the default layout suboptimal)
<MichaelRaskin>
Unfortunately, Asus doesn't have options with huge enough batteries, and Lenovo does some weird thing
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<infinisil>
Oh yeah, also apple does something weird with the Fn key
<colemickens>
Has anyone built a self-installing ISO yet?
<gchristensen>
colemickens: clever has the doitnow thing, and Packet's install image is basically a self-installing ISO