gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<colemickens> Another day, another k8s thing that would be better with Nix instead of another custom one-off tool
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<simpson> Hm, to guess, is it written in Go, configured with YAML, lackluster docs on a .io domain?
<iqubic> Sounds like what I would expect.
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<ivegotasthma> can someone tell me why my nix build env doesn't inject the zlib headers into my python virtualenv wheel build? https://dpaste.de/yPhr/raw it's very simple, but I'm completely new to this and don't know how to debug it.
<ivan> try propagatedBuildInputs? not sure
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<gchristensen> ivan: #nixos is probablya better bet for questions :)
<ivan> ivegotasthma: ^
<gchristensen> oops, thanks ivan
<ivegotasthma> gchristensen: already asked, no response, but I managed to fix it myself
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<manveru> adisbladis: i think i found a but in vgo2nix
<manveru> *bug
<manveru> a go.mod like this: https://github.com/tehsphinx/exalysis/blob/master/go.mod#L15 needs to have an entry for "golang.org/x/lint" instead of "github.com/golang/lint", download should be from github though :)
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<infinisil> Man, I'm always struggling with key bindings
<infinisil> emacs, vim, X, what have you not all want key bindings
<infinisil> They have defaults, they sometimes use the key codes and sometimes the alphas
<infinisil> Defaults overlap, defaults might not play well with your vim/emacs habits
<infinisil> And there's so many ways you can do things, but it's always pretty annoying, to me at least
<MichaelRaskin> You forgot to mention browsers, right?
<infinisil> Oh yeah
<MichaelRaskin> Emacs, Vim, X — there I at least can have a pretty long-term VCS-friendly binding definition lists…
<infinisil> I wonder if there ever will be some unified key binding protocol
<MichaelRaskin> Will it be as horrible and mission creepy as unified init from systemd?
<infinisil> Maybe have a set of semantic keys, meaning "save", "new <foo>", and applications can't have their own config, they just receive such events
<simpson> infinisil: You can set up inputrc for many things, at least.
<joepie91> infinisil: afaik KDE does this to *some* degree
<infinisil> simpson: Ah neat, at least that's something
<MichaelRaskin> Hm, I think X11 actually has a lot of key names that could be used like that…
<infinisil> joepie91: The semantic key thing?
<joepie91> yeah
<joepie91> at least for KDE applications
<joepie91> I recall some sort of centralized keybinding configuration thingem
<infinisil> Nice
<infinisil> I guess this would solve the "everything has a different config" problem. But the "where the hell should I assign these bindings to" problem is still there
<infinisil> And the keycode vs character thing
<MichaelRaskin> Then there are some applications that manage to break deadkeys in new and creative ways
<MichaelRaskin> For example, in Firefox they might work and might not work and… it is complicated
<infinisil> Yeah..
<infinisil> I mean, as long as there's so many possibilities for the application developers to do stuff (choosing how they interact with the inputs), there won't ever be a unified anything.
<infinisil> But if these possibilities are too restricted, they won't code for those platforms
<infinisil> Example: macOS app store
<infinisil> Ohh another problem I missed: Different keyboards
<infinisil> Not all of them have the same keys, especially not the more esoteric ones
<MichaelRaskin> And then you turn around and look at the notebook keyboards
<infinisil> This seems like a non-trivial problem yet to be solved
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<MichaelRaskin> On a 15.6'' Asus you at least have physically enouhg keycaps at reasonable locations (but I find the default layout suboptimal)
<MichaelRaskin> Unfortunately, Asus doesn't have options with huge enough batteries, and Lenovo does some weird thing
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<infinisil> Oh yeah, also apple does something weird with the Fn key
<colemickens> Has anyone built a self-installing ISO yet?
<gchristensen> colemickens: clever has the doitnow thing, and Packet's install image is basically a self-installing ISO
<colemickens> Thanks for the reminder on the latter; not finding much for the former though: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=github++"doitnow"+nixos
<samueldr> IIRC it's been made mainly to install via network boot
<samueldr> though I guess it should work anywhere
<colemickens> that's really great, thanks
<ldlework> needs a guide for using it
<ldlework> some of us are ~real~ dumb
* ldlework uses his thumb to point inconspicuously to the guy next to him