gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<infinisil> Programming can sometimes feel like a superpower :D
<joepie91> grumbly thread about cloudflare's registrar thingem: https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/1046193735883771904
<infinisil> If I need some functionality I can just code it myself
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<gchristensen> joepie91: I'm a very happy customer of a not-cheap registrar
<joepie91> gchristensen: I'm a very happy customer of a cheap registrar :P
<gchristensen> *shrug* the extra money Gandi charges is worth it
<joepie91> (internet.bs in my case)
<joepie91> just had a look
<joepie91> cloudflare is listing .com as $8.03 at-cost
<joepie91> internet.bs charges $8.99 for .com
<joepie91> (for a single-year reg; for longer periods it goes down to $8.49, but meh)
* gchristensen pays 2x that
<joepie91> yeah, I recall gandi being like $15 or so
<joepie91> though that was a few years ago
<joepie91> I briefly had a domain there
<gchristensen> $15.50
<joepie91> I don't recall why I moved it
<gchristensen> too boring having a registrar that works and doesn't try to upsell? :)
<gchristensen> (that dig would have hit better if you used godaddy, of course)
<joepie91> gchristensen: internet.bs also doesn't, at least not in any intrusive way; they ask you "hey do you also want hosting" once with a "never ask me again ever" button
<joepie91> I'm okay with that :P
<joepie91> they do target a different market though I think
<joepie91> internet.bs seems to mostly live off bulk registrations
<joepie91> dunno about Gandi but it has a lot more average-user-facing stuff going on
<joepie91> internet.bs is waaaaay more barebones
<gchristensen> theyhave a good api
<joepie91> but is it an API designed for integration with tooling, or for bulk registration?
<gchristensen> tooling
<joepie91> right, yeah, that's different then; that of internet.bs is very much reseller/bulk-oriented: https://www.internetbs.net/internet-bs-api.pdf
<joepie91> I don't think they have an API for the average joe
<joepie91> gchristensen: anyway, one major reason I like internet.bs is because I tend to work on projects that involve user-uploaded content of some variety, and internet.bs' abuse department is extremely relaxed if you're not obviously abusive
<joepie91> abuse complaints just get fwd'ed
<gchristensen> a nice
<joepie91> that prevents a lot of headaches
<joepie91> like, running a phishing site will probably get you booted, but random defamation/piracy/whatever claims, they don't really care so long as you indicate that you've dealt with them
<joepie91> (that'd probably be different if you were TPB though :P)
<joepie91> I've had issues with Dynadot on this aspect in particular
<joepie91> they unilaterally decided to suspend my domain over a single abusemail, no warning to me, no request to deal with it; just a full domain lock, no transfer, refusing to unlock it
<joepie91> it took a call from a journalist inquiring about why the site was down, before they agreed to make it transferable again...
<joepie91> so yeah, whatever you do, definitely avoid that one :D
<joepie91> there was some schadenfreude at least, though; that little stunt cost them a customer with 10k+ domains
<joepie91> (not me; somebody who heard about the incident from me)
<joepie91> anyway, I should sleep instead of rambling on
<emily> joepie91: hm, does internet.bs have the kind of API that would allow you to easily automate the acme DNS stuff?
<joepie91> emily: dunno, I don't use their DNS service, I use HE DNS
<emily> *nods*
<emily> hm, and they're not fussy about abuse complaints? I'd expect them to maybe be moreso than registrars
<emily> (ah, sorry, I shouldn't keep you up!)
<joepie91> emily: not so long as you're running a legitimate thing anyway, in my experience
<joepie91> emily: also, why would you expect them to be more fussy? because of less margin?
<jasongrossman> I use gandi, and I like everything about them EXCEPT that their web interface is complicated and fussy and they've been known to make major unnecessary changes to it.
<jasongrossman> joepie91: https://dns.he.net gives me 404.
<joepie91> internet.bs has almost the opposite problem :D
<joepie91> it rarely gets updated
<joepie91> jasongrossman: huh? works for me
<emily> joepie91: because of more direct involvement, I guess. I don't know why it appears that way to me; I guess it's just an unthinking prejudice
<joepie91> emily: not quite following :P
<jasongrossman> joepie91: If I was failing to connect then I'd think the problem was at my end, but a 404 suggests the problem's at their end.
<joepie91> 'more direct involvement' how?
<emily> https://faq.internet.bs/ Popular search words: eth Ethereum eth Ethereum Ethereum
<jasongrossman> joepie91: It's just started working again.
<joepie91> hahahaha
<emily> joepie91: yeah, like I said I have no idea why I felt that way. in retrospect it makes no sense
<joepie91> jasongrossman: solar rays, aliens? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<jasongrossman> Alien rays.
<joepie91> emily: iirc internet.bs was one of the first registrars to take Bitcoin so that might be the reason for those queries
<joepie91> :p
<emily> hm, wonder how useful that still is now that icann are fussy about having real contact details
<joepie91> Bitcoin never was anonymous :P
<joepie91> but internet.bs has been offering free whois privacy since whoever, so I guess they've always been catering to the... 'internet-conscious'?
<joepie91> since forever*
<joepie91> words, they're difficult
* emily nods
<joepie91> emily: anyhow, from what I've heard from various hosting providers, Bitcoin-paying customers have very very low abuse rates
<joepie91> so it is - or at least was - pretty economically interesting to take Bitcoin, if your audience used it
<joepie91> (the working theory is that this is because you can't chargeback Bitcoin, so people tend to be more careful about not fucking up their service)
<joepie91> anyway, now I'm really off to sleep :P
<joepie91> night!
<{^_^}> Night!
<gchristensen> does anyone else have dozens of git repos on their computer with uncommitted changes from who knows how long ago?
<samueldr> yes
<gchristensen> sometimes I think I'd be fine if I lost my computer and backups b/c git, and then I remember all those uncommited changes....
<samueldr> the worst part is going to that project to maybe rescue it from rot, and finding an unfinished change which lacks documentation and doesn't work
<samueldr> sometimes I think I hate myself ;)
<gchristensen> haha oh my yes
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: re highlighting — I think using a lighter weight (just one more) for string literals might be interesting?
<sphalerite> to highlight the actual use of nix language as opposed to "noise"
<sphalerite> (including URLs)
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<gchristensen> sphalerite: like lighter than paragraph text?
<gchristensen> I didn't expect it to be below 5C just yet *rubs his fingers warm*
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