<ldlework>
where config.rasi contains tokens like @light-red@
<ldlework>
etc
<ldlework>
i admit everything changing colors dynamically without reload is pretty cool though
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<sphalerite>
zpool destroy rpool/windows
<sphalerite>
"and nothing of value was lost."
<sphalerite>
s/zpool/zfs/ whoops
<jD91mZM2>
sphalerite: Can you actually keep a windows partition as a zvol? What are the advantages?
<sphalerite>
jD91mZM2: I use it as the backing device for a VM
<sphalerite>
you can't actually boot the physical machine off it
<jD91mZM2>
Aw, bummer
<sphalerite>
but you can snapshot it and stuff
<jD91mZM2>
I have yet to reinstall windows after reformatting the drive with zfs
<sphalerite>
eh, just don't :D
<jD91mZM2>
Yeah, for now I won't. But eventually I will be REALLY bored and want to play some windows-only game
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<andi->
give the new steam thingy a shot :)
<andi->
I was playing quake champions the other day..
<andi->
Is any of you using a software to manage digital copies of dead-wood documents? I am just trying out `paperwork` and so far it looks nice.
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<LnL>
tfw you temporarily forget your pin and there's a row of people behind you
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<jD91mZM2>
andi-: I've never really trusted wine as the only option for paid games, since it might fail and if it does there's no way for little old me to fix it
<sphalerite>
aaaaaargh ssh[.]com is awful
<sphalerite>
jD91mZM2: it's a good option to try before having to install windows though!
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<jD91mZM2>
sphalerite: Sure! Do I need anything to set it up or is it bundled with steam?
<sphalerite>
jD91mZM2: I don't know, I haven't used it myself. I assume it's bundled
<manveru>
haven't gotten anything to work with proton
<sir_guy_carleton>
what are the system requirement for proton?
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<manveru>
no clue, it's basically wine, right?
<manveru>
should debug it...
<manveru>
seems like it needs a python3 executable
<manveru>
lemme try unstable
<manveru>
someone merged a fix for this i think
<samueldr>
yeah, it needs python3
<samueldr>
and unstable has the fix iirc
<samueldr>
(haven't tried it though)
<manveru>
building :)
<samueldr>
iirc the fix was simply adding python3 to the steam chroot, good candidate for the stable release I think
<srhb>
correct.
<srhb>
Yes, we should backport it..
<srhb>
I forgot about that.
* srhb
does that
<manveru>
srhb++
<{^_^}>
srhb's karma got increased to 15
<samueldr>
thank you!
<srhb>
Ah, it's already in. :)
<manveru>
is there any ETA for the release yet?
<samueldr>
I was wondering myself, what other than ZHF is required, couldn't think (without looking) of anything
<srhb>
I think it looks fairly solid so far
<manveru>
trying FFVII with it now
<manveru>
It works!
<manveru>
Haven't seen that intro in 20 years or so
<srhb>
... has steam been around for 20 years
<srhb>
#old
<manveru>
No, but final fantasy
<srhb>
oh :P
<samueldr>
Initial releaseSeptember 11, 2003; 15 years ago
<samueldr>
for steam
<sphalerite>
manveru: huh, surprised. Doesn't Square Enix do some really awful DRM stuff usually?
<sphalerite>
samueldr: surely not, steam didn't exist back then
<srhb>
sphalerite: That's the steam release date...
<samueldr>
it wasn't "the same" steam
<srhb>
sphalerite: Welcome to club old!
<samueldr>
took 2 years for other games to get in
<sphalerite>
I thought steam was from like 2005 or 2008 or so
<srhb>
That's like... One year before WoW beta. *remembers fondly*
<sphalerite>
meh, why isn't wineFull built by hydra
<srhb>
sphalerite: 'tis?
<samueldr>
and FFVII is january 31st 1997
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<srhb>
sphalerite: You probably meant wineWowpackages.full?
<sphalerite>
srhb: nix build -f channel:nixos-18.03 wineFull # Downloads all the deps then starts building wine
<srhb>
sphalerite: What does your config.wine.build say?
<srhb>
Or does that ignore config?
* srhb
thinks not
<srhb>
Ugh, any good tips to speed up git status in nixpkgs?
<srhb>
Aside from git prune...
<sphalerite>
$ nix eval -f channel:nixos-18.03 config.wine.build -> error: attribute 'wine' in selection path 'config.wine.build' not found
<joepie91>
can confirm; sphalerite's command also starts a wine build here
<srhb>
I guess it's only fixe din unstable and 18.09 then
<sphalerite>
srhb: --untracked-files=no
<srhb>
sphalerite: Thanks! :)
<sphalerite>
srhb: of course that prevents untracked files from showing, but it should be noticeably faster since it doesn't need to read any dirs
<srhb>
Very much faster. I guess I'll have an alias for that
<srhb>
Speaking of wine, I did this earlier and thought it was funny: $(nix-build --no-out-link '<nixpkgs>' -A wine)/bin/wine $(nix-build --no-out-link '<nixpkgs>' -A pkgsCross.mingw32.hello)/bin/hello.exe
<srhb>
I guess I am easily entertained :P
<joepie91>
lol
<joepie91>
fwiw, I've seen WINE break before, in the sense that it causes a local build
<srhb>
The new pkgsCross stuff is soooo slick.
<joepie91>
seems to be a recurring issue
<joepie91>
srhb: pkgsCross?
<srhb>
joepie91: Yeah, pkgs.pkgsCross.somearchitecture is pkgs, but cross compiling for somearchtitecture
<srhb>
It's ridiculously cool
<joepie91>
oh, nice
<srhb>
joepie91: re. wineFull, it must be a transitive dependency in 18.09 because neither 18.03 or 18.09 has a job of that name
<samueldr>
srhb: in a way, if I had to support windows builds of anything again, I would probably do it using a similarly funny thing for CI
<joepie91>
it's an override of wine I believe
<joepie91>
with more support flags
<srhb>
Oh, winePackages.full...
<srhb>
samueldr: Yeah!
<samueldr>
I mean, if it works with wine, what are the chances it doesn't for windows? and then, if it works with wine, it can be Freely tested and debugged
<srhb>
scratch that, 18.09 does have winePackages.full directly, 18.03 does not :)
<srhb>
sphalerite: I loathe the '()' syntax :|
<samueldr>
srhb: come and join us on the 18.09 channel :)
<srhb>
samueldr: Didn't know we had one..
<sphalerite>
samueldr: you mean me?
<samueldr>
uh, both? :)
<sphalerite>
we have an IRC channel for the 18.09 nixos channel?
<samueldr>
nixos channel
<srhb>
Oh lol
<samueldr>
nah, not IRC, that would be.... unwise
<srhb>
irc and nixpkgs conflation
<sphalerite>
right
<sphalerite>
I was confused
<srhb>
I am on 18.09 :)
<sphalerite>
because srhb is already on 18.09 AFAIU
<samueldr>
good
<sphalerite>
yeah
<srhb>
Usually until release, then back to warm and safe nixos-unstable/master :P
<samueldr>
I had interleaved your discussion wrong
<srhb>
Happens :D
<sphalerite>
go team name-starts-with-an-S
<srhb>
:D
<sphalerite>
hm, can wine virtually mount an ISO, or do I need to mount it in the linux filesystem…
<samueldr>
I did the reverse: stable until about two weeks before branch-off, where I upgraded to nixos-unstable; then branched-off and I intend to stay there for a while
<srhb>
Makes sense :)
<srhb>
I really should do an 18.03 downgrade and 18.09 upgrade again and see if I can trigger the /run/user/$uid bug
<manveru>
sphalerite: i think you mount it in linux and make a drive for it in wine
<sphalerite>
manveru: wine makes drives for linux mountpoints automatically iirc
<srhb>
At least one other person has experienced the mount failing, leaving the systems largely unusable from X...
<sphalerite>
manveru: I was just thinking maybe I can avoid the linux mount, needing root and stuff
<manveru>
possibly, haven't messed much with wine beyond playing some starcraft
<sphalerite>
also: ssh's control socket feature is awesome
<manveru>
time to wait 7 hours while i download witcher 3 to finally play blood&wine...
<samueldr>
sphalerite: details?
<samueldr>
(I know about, but interested in why YOU find it awesome)
<sphalerite>
samueldr: because it allows running lots of stuff on a remote machine while only authenticating once
<samueldr>
ah, no tricky business, just business as usual
<sphalerite>
meaning I don't need to touch my yubikey 20 times to run some slightly complex script which interacts with a remote host multiple times
<sphalerite>
manveru: just for trying it out, for persistence I have a udev rule :)
<sphalerite>
manveru: then you use gpg --edit-key to add an authentication subkey to your key, and use keytocard to store it to your yubikey *and delete it from your machine* (so back it up first if you want a backup of it, because you won't be getting it back out of the yubikey!)
<srhb>
Wish it were a bit cleaner though! I imagine there will be other, better launchers for that.
<sphalerite>
hmm
<sphalerite>
actually I doubt it'll help
<sphalerite>
but I guess I might as well try since I've not got anywhere with plain wine this time
<srhb>
What are you trying? :)
<sphalerite>
LEGO Rock Raiders :p
<sphalerite>
actually a good game, technological awfulness aside
<joepie91>
ooooo it's been a while since I've seen that
<joepie91>
enjoyed it as a kid
<sphalerite>
me too! And a community based around it was basically my internet life for a long time
<sphalerite>
they found out how to mod it and stuff
<sphalerite>
never got those damned crashes fixed though
<sphalerite>
I got it running in wine sometime last year I think. Should have written down the nixpkgs version and the combination of pieces I used for it :(
<joepie91>
sphalerite: also fun: lego loco
<joepie91>
come to think of it, the lego games in general were surprisingly fun
<sphalerite>
joepie91: oh yeah I had that one too. Never got to play it with the network functionality though :(
<sphalerite>
lego racers 2 as well. the original was before my time
<sphalerite>
joepie91: HAHAHAHA just looking for lego loco I discovered that you of all people uploaded it to archive.org
<sphalerite>
You're doing god's work
<sphalerite>
for rock raiders I still have my own image of my CD
<joepie91>
sphalerite: :D
<joepie91>
sphalerite: also visible in the IA item: my custom-made disc batch-scanning sleeve
<joepie91>
this guy has his own dedicated 'inbox' collection on the archive, where everything is dumped prior to it being sorted out into collections by IA people
<joepie91>
"You need a X-Server with 16 bit colors. Look here: http://wiki.winehq.org/256ColorMode And you need to set a Virtual desktop. You should try different combinations. This worked for me the best: My original resolution is: 1600x900 I use Xephyr as X-Server: Xephyr :1 -ac -screen 1024x768x16 -fullscreen And a Virtual Desktop: 1280x1024 And then starting the game with: DISPLAY=:1 wine PATH/TO/THE/EXE/FILE Notice that this game only works with this
<joepie91>
Resolutions: 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024. I used a new clean prfix with nothing else installed."
<sphalerite>
yeah I'm already using Xephyr actually :/
<sphalerite>
the title screen works, but clicking on the tick makes a sound effect and then it doesn't seem to respond to anything anymore
<joepie91>
oh, I remember having that issue even on Windows
<joepie91>
something with... directx, I think?
<joepie91>
sphalerite: could also try and see if myabandonware has a copy
<joepie91>
might be a diff version or have a patch or whatever
<andi->
that was the tail end of my derailing from my actual goal of the day.. or in other words: 12h later still nothing finished from the ToDo list..
<samueldr>
if you ever have questions about webdev stuff for the nixos site, (assuming you're not a webdev), don't hesitate to ask me
<andi->
samueldr: I definitly would never call me that.. I've been using most of the common and not so common web thingies in the last 15y but I don't like touching it (most of the time :))
<andi->
I actually am not happy with the "empty" <a>-tag..
<samueldr>
is it empty?
<andi->
nah
<andi->
it just doesn't some with a href
<andi->
thats what I mean
<andi->
I remember back in the old times those would render like normal text or weird but not as clickable
<samueldr>
they still do
<samueldr>
IIRC (might be wrong) bootstrap 2 handled that bit
<andi->
so ti is just the CSS fixing it up then?
<samueldr>
always made all `a` look like links
<andi->
which is sane IMO
<samueldr>
so webdevs SHOULD use A elements instead of SPAN for interactive things
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
a will show up in tab-based navigation, will also show up in some other things (like vimium)
<samueldr>
and (unverified) probably are handled better by site readers
<samueldr>
screen readers*
<andi->
Do I even want to test a screen reader or will it just be depressing without me being able to invest enough time to fix it?
<samueldr>
that's one of my lacking skills: I have no formal knowledge about actual screen readers
<samueldr>
and chromevox apparently doesn't match reality with JAWS and such
<samueldr>
I'm still holding on assumptions that were true 10 years ago, don't have the tools to test it in full
<sphalerite>
I've started asking myself questions recently. It's not something I ever really thought about in the past, but somehow it's occurred to me now — I wonder if Allah is doing?
<{^_^}>
beetbox/beets#3035 (by Infinisil, 3 minutes ago, open): Path query failing for some items
<manveru>
damn, trying to get terraform to setup a NixOS on Hetzner Cloud is tricky :|
<manveru>
would be nice if our iso included cloud-init
<andi->
manveru: isn't there cloud-init from the nova thingies?
<andi->
manveru: also if you get that working I would be interested in some of the code :)
<manveru>
well, my approach now is to write some code that uses the hetzner cloud api and nixos-in-place to run as a local-exec provisioner after creating a normal ubuntu instance...
<manveru>
not gonna be super elegant :P
<andi->
manveru: as long as it it better then my manual kexec approach ;)
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<sphalerite>
andi-: I installed nixos on a hetzner machine from the recovery/rescue system (whatever it's called)
<sphalerite>
I thought that was quite nice, since it lets you do the partitioning and stuff as well
<andi->
sphalerite: I just uploaded a kexec payload and loaded that.. was a breeze
<sphalerite>
err I meant manveru actually but yeah kexec is fun too :p
<andi->
but the clicking in the interface + manual scp'ing bah
<manveru>
yeah, i want it fully automated :)
<sphalerite>
I've been fiddling with systemctl switch-root to see if I can get kexec-free switching to an installer
<sphalerite>
it's weird, udevadm trigger and settle seem to hang