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<justan0theruser> Is there any documentation on how `config.aarch64` is automatically generated?
<samueldr> justan0theruser: is that about Mobile NixOS?
<justan0theruser> yes, I see `config.aarch64` in most `devices/`
<samueldr> it's not automatically generated, it's refreshed from the kernel's "make menuconfig" infra
<samueldr> options will be edited manually or through menuconfig
<justan0theruser> ah ok, it says `Automatically generated file; DO NOT EDIT`. So it's automatically generated by `make menuconfig`. Thanks
<samueldr> though, bin/kernel-normalize-config is a helper to "refresh" the config according to what the kernel wants
<samueldr> yeah
<justan0theruser> I'll check it out
<justan0theruser> Is there any broader documentation on how to add a new device?
<samueldr> not really yet
<samueldr> which one is it?
<justan0theruser> I just ordered the oneplus 8 pro
<samueldr> just so you know, it will not be "useful" as a phone at many levels for a while
<justan0theruser> which is supported by lineageOS, so I may be able to copy what most of the devices do, which is taking firmware and kernel from the lineageOS repo
<justan0theruser> samueldr: sure, I will be dual booting
<samueldr> right now at best, with android-based devices, you can have wifi
<samueldr> but mostly only on older devices
<samueldr> newer devices are a task yet to be looked at for a proper solution
<samueldr> and then there's a lot of everything else that are unknowns :)
<justan0theruser> if postmarketos adopts the device won't I be able to borrow significant bits to make it work?
<samueldr> yes
<samueldr> definitely
<samueldr> and probably with the same caveats and limits as they will list, if any (there most likely will be at first)
<justan0theruser> postmarketos has oneplus 7 in alpha rn, seems like they have a reasonable amount still to get working though
<justan0theruser> rn the goal is to just get it to boot
<samueldr> alright, really I just wanted to make it obvious that you might have to keep in mind that it is not at all close to being a daily driver os :)
<justan0theruser> right, lineageOS will be daily driver until nixos mobile takes over as the main phone distro in 2022
* samueldr wishes
<samueldr> for android-based devices it will be extremely variable
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> justan0theruser:
<samueldr> completely forgot: there's autport
<samueldr> since the device is new enough it should hopefully work
<samueldr> running it in case it fails
<samueldr> AH! right, and since you were speaking about porting... I now understand more of your question
<samueldr> the unsaid part: "and how do I know which options to configure?"
<samueldr> it's partly https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Kernel_configuration and experience
<samueldr> there is a task I have on my list, but lower priority, that will be about making it easier for users to make sure they did not forget to configure a required option
<samueldr> it seems that for oneplus8pro it produces some... weird inputs, but not totally wrong either
<samueldr> that thing's so new it holds a lot of fresh challenges it looks like :)
<justan0theruser> thanks!
<justan0theruser> I'll try to document my process of trying to get this working
<samueldr> it will help, and if you do, it would help me if you'd also note the pain points
<samueldr> I've done so many of those that I'm numb to the pain
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<betaboon> perls File-ShareDir fails crosscompiling for aarch64. this seems to be pulled in implicitly by switch-to-configuration thus blocking me to build an image. or am i doing something wrong ?
<{^_^}> #112173 (by ilyakooo0, 1 week ago, closed): Cross-compiling nixos for armv6l failing to build File-ShareDir
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<colemickens> Is there a trick to serial debugging?
<colemickens> I swear sometimes it just stops working?
<samueldr> stops working?
<samueldr> like during use?
<samueldr> or one day you come back to it and it doesn't work?
<colemickens> yes
<colemickens> mostly the latter, in this case.
<colemickens> I haven't touched the wiring in a while, right.
<colemickens> two days ago, I could ssh, run screen, reboot the second one, and see the output in screen
<colemickens> last night, upgraded to 5.11, it was acting the same, but I was getting a garbled serial output (who knows, probably upgrade related)
<colemickens> and now today, when I run screen and reboot the other Pi, I don't even get the little symbol that's usually emitted, let alone any serial output. It's just like nothings happening?
<samueldr> I guess the only trick I have is "have hardware you trust will work", which isn't helpful in your case :/
<samueldr> the longer the cables that run RX and TX are, the more susceptible to interference they are
<colemickens> I had even shelled for the supposedly more expensive "genuine" ft232 board. :/
<samueldr> e.g. on the pixel UART breakout board, using my usual cable doesn't work at all
<colemickens> ooooh interference is a great point, these rpi4 even with the radios turned off are weird
<colemickens> yeah, let me go look at that
<samueldr> I had to make something different so they'd be as small as possible
<samueldr> as short*
<samueldr> my usual cables are like 12" long? maybe 24"? it almost worked
<samueldr> 36" apparently
<samueldr> they are copies of this one, though I do own an original one too as a trusted cable
<samueldr> I ended up using another kind of serial board I had around, with something like 2" jumper wires
<samueldr> and it has been working flawlessly since
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<colemickens> I am going to wind up grabbing a couple of those as well. I am always paranoid about touching exposed pins on stuff with my clumsy human shell.
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