<clever>
Lisanna: the only difference is the .outPath
<tomberek>
can someone please test "nixops/examples/vpc.nix" with nixopsUnstable (1.6)?
<Lisanna>
ugh, that's really annoying
<clever>
Lisanna: why?
<Lisanna>
because it doesn't actually have those outputs
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<clever>
Lisanna: ?
<Lisanna>
I'm writing a function called mutateDrv, and I'm trying to get it to work on multi-output derivations
<clever>
what will it mutate?
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<Lisanna>
it mutates the output of the derivation, as if $out was opened again for writing
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<Lisanna>
but Nix is complaining because it's not producing all of the expected outputs, because "outputs" is full of a bunch of unnecessary stuff
<Lisanna>
pretty sure I've shown you the code for this before
<clever>
Lisanna: ah, you would need to map over everything in outputs, and copy all of them from src to dst, and fix up cross-references between them
<clever>
also, nixpkgs has something similar
<Lisanna>
well, but that's the thing, I'm not actually operating on a multi-output derivation, I'm operating on one of the derivations that is *part* of a multi-output derivation
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<Lisanna>
i.e. mutateDrv baseDrv.out3
<clever>
then you need to set outputs = [ "out3" ];
<clever>
to declare that you only have 1
<Lisanna>
yeah, but how do I know which one it is?
<clever>
and keep in mind, you can always // { outputs = fulllist; }; after you call derivation
<Lisanna>
well, that's the thing
<clever>
the post-fix at the end of .outPath is the only thing i can think of
<clever>
but at this point, does it even need the right output name?
<clever>
outputs = [ "out" ]; ?
<Lisanna>
the base re-written drv is just a runCommand, the extra attrs are appended afterwards
<Lisanna>
not as input to derivation
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<Lisanna>
so I'm already doing that, nix is doing this error checking at build time remember
<Lisanna>
so it can't tell / doesn't care whether or not I set outputs in the call to derivation or afterwards
<Dezgeg>
copy everything else except outputs ?
<Lisanna>
I might just set outputs to [ "out" ]
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #36466: virtualbox: drop headless patch that no longer applies, fixed upstream (master...fix/virtualboxHeadless) https://git.io/vANB6
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<Lisanna>
is it possible for a derivation which is part of a multi-output derivation to itself be a multi-output derivation?
<clever>
jxf: that will generate a result symlink pointing to the final build
<Lisanna>
to add true multi-output support I'd need to do the thing you said, which would be to iterate over outputs and fixup cross-references
<clever>
Lisanna: also, cycles cant exist between the outputs
<clever>
Lisanna: ive had problems where the binaryes refer to lib and share, and share refers to lib, and lib refers to bin
<clever>
and doc refers to all
<clever>
and one of them also refers to doc
<Lisanna>
...oh god
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<Lisanna>
actually, I should be able to handle that
<Lisanna>
the mutateDrv derivation will also just need to be a multi-output
<Lisanna>
if I do all of the outpaths at the same time, they'll all be open for writing, and I can do the find/replace while I have all the outpaths open in the nix store
<clever>
nix doesnt allow such cycles to ever exist
<clever>
so the builds will fail it they happen
<Lisanna>
Oh, okay
<ottidmes>
Is there something in nixpkgs that would allow me to merge packages, I tried pkgs.buildEnv, which normally worked for me in this use case, but since its symlinking is not allowed when used in an initrd
<clever>
ottidmes: symlinks work in the initrd
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<ottidmes>
I have serveral scripts generated with pkgs.writeScriptBin
<ottidmes>
clever: I do this: for BIN in ${pkgs.sedutil-scripts-unwrapped}/bin/*; do copy_bin_and_libs $BIN done
<ottidmes>
clever: But those bin paths are just symlinks to the actual scripts
<ottidmes>
clever: Giving me the error: output '/nix/store/5pr7rhr7vj13scz9yflcw0c8m128kr70-extra-utils' is not allowed to refer to the following paths
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<clever>
ottidmes: line 51 does cp -d, which results in the symlink staying intact, nix then pulls in ahh
<clever>
ottidmes: thats a safety to prevent you from pulling in a crap-ton of things by mistake
<clever>
ottidmes: just manually cp it with a different cp flag
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<Lisanna>
for any multi-output derivation, does the sting context of multiOutputDrv.out3.outPath contain references to the other outputs?
<elvishjerricco>
Does NixOps only let you bind subdomains with route53? Reading through the python is a little cryptic to me (not a python dev), but it seems to be that way
<blankhart>
the nix-build commands succeed, as does the nix-shell command for the server; but the nix-shell command for the client fails claiming there are missing dependencies
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<acowley>
The Haskell generic builder adds a handy `env` attribute that can be used when entering a nix-shell. Is there a way to add to that derivation's buildInputs in a shell.nix that otherwise returns that value?
<acowley>
myHaskellDerivation.env doesn't have an overrideDerivation attribute, which was the first thing I tried.
<acowley>
blankhart: Ah, thank you! overrideAttrs was my huckleberry
<elvishjerricco>
e.g. `pkgs.haskell.lib.overrideCabal haskellDrv (old: { ... })
<boomshroom>
I have a very unusal situation of my own making which is not working very well.
<blankhart>
acowley: definitely defer to elvishjerricco on best practice here
<acowley>
So many ways to override things. And boy howdy do I wish I had intellisense-style nix-repl-powered autocompletion when I type "." in a .nix file.
<elvishjerricco>
blankhart: FWIW, I just recently got `shellFor` merged, which gives you a shell for a *list* of Haskell packages. Might be better than `.env` in some cases
<elvishjerricco>
acowley: Make an LSP implementation for Nix ;)
* acowley
faints
<acowley>
That could be glorious! But I don't know if the precision of errors would be entirely satisfying.
<blankhart>
elvishjerricco: that will be great for my project, eventually. can you think of a reason why a nix-build of a GHCJS package would succeed, even though cabal configure fails after calling nix-shell -A <package>.env (for the same package)?
<boomshroom>
I have a simple nix installation in my student home directory for my university and I'm trying to install nix with my bootstrapped nix. After getting a nix installation of perl and DBI, I'm getting an error of undefined symbol: Perl_xs_boot_epilog
<elvishjerricco>
blankhart: That's pretty odd. How does cabal configure fail?
<blankhart>
cannot resolve dependencies.
<boomshroom>
I'm hand added some of the library paths to the bootstrap download-using-manifests.pl and where it fails changes, but it still gives the same error in the end.
<blankhart>
it basically can't find anything (shared local package, servant, aeson, ghcjs-base, nada)
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<elvishjerricco>
blankhart: I think I've seen that before...
<elvishjerricco>
I think you might have some crud in your global Cabal package db, so Cabal is trying to look there instead of the shell environment
<boomshroom>
The nix installation of perl is 5.24.1 and is what my PATH is pointing to, while the system's perl is 5.18.2.
<blankhart>
also, it's just the GHCJS side - the GHC side works fine under both nix-build and nix-shell
<elvishjerricco>
This is one of the most consistent problems I've had with cabal+nix-shell. The ~/.cabal dir really screws stuff up.
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<boomshroom>
I should also mention that the nix store is not in /nix because I don't have root privileges. Instead it's in ~/.nix
<ryantm>
gchristensen: I started doing some more automated build/commit/PRs, this time the PRs are automated, but my script waits 15 minutes after it submits a PR to limit the load.
<gchristensen>
Oh I see
<ryantm>
gchristensen: Let me know if you want me to space it out more.
<gchristensen>
Ryantm if you want to make it a bit faster you can poll the stats url
<boomshroom>
Looks like I got perl working. Now to hope the bootstrap builds.
<muzzy>
so is it just a nix package?
<infinisil>
gchristensen: Whoaaaaa
<infinisil>
This guy really put some effort into it since I last checked it out
<infinisil>
I actually was one of the first contributors, I refactored his code into a proper nixos module, amazing how far they got
<gchristensen>
I hate that this is making me consider running a mailserver again
<dtz>
xD
<infinisil>
gchristensen: Well I decided a couple hours ago that I'd want that, and now I'm done already, and I had like 0 clues about mailservers
<gchristensen>
:|
<gchristensen>
can you keep me posted on your ups and downs?
<muzzy>
I bookmarked it in case I ever feel like I need to run a mailserver
<infinisil>
gchristensen: Sure
<gchristensen>
thanks
<gchristensen>
ryantm: you should be good to submit one every seven minutes
<gchristensen>
maybe even faster :)
<infinisil>
Whoa, setting up thunderbird for my new mail worked all automatic :O
<infinisil>
On my iPhone I had to manually enter the mailserver
<vaibhavsagar>
hey, has anyone looked into setting up transient build slaves on ec2 spot instances?
<vaibhavsagar>
it's one of those ideas that is bizarre enough that I would expect a nixos module for it somewhere :)
<infinisil>
In comparison I haven't even managed to send a mail with thunderbolt with my old @icloud.com email
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<boomshroom>
In my effort to bootstrap nix on my university account, I'm having the libsodium tests fail due to `fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable`. I'm not permitted to raise the process count. Interestingly, the first time I tried, I got 21 failures and the second attempt I only got 7.
<s2mitrov>
https://i.imgur.com/XS5oBzM.png Hey, can someone tell me how to make sure /nix doesn't run out of space during `nixos-install`?
<boomshroom>
Is there a way to get around this such that the build succeeds without raising the process limit?
<infinisil>
s2mitrov: Use a minimal config for the first install, then boot into the installed system and rebuild with your actual config
<s2mitrov>
infinisil: how minimal? the one i have right now is pretty barebones (only added nix-repl, nix-prefetch-scripts to systemPackages, and disabled DE and added xmonad as my WM
<s2mitrov>
I also uncommented bash completion, if that makes any difference
<infinisil>
s2mitrov: Maybe just <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/profiles/minimal.nix>
<infinisil>
s2mitrov: And xmonad is pretty big, it includes ghc
<infinisil>
And X is pretty big too of course
<s2mitrov>
I'll give that a try
<infinisil>
How much RAM do you have?
<s2mitrov>
My PC has 8GB but I'm just installing on a VM for now to get the hang of nix/nixOS which is limited to 4GB
<infinisil>
Huh, 4GB should be plenty, and you got enough disk space for it too?
<gchristensen>
<vaibhavsagar yes Hydra does this:)
<s2mitrov>
lpaste.net/363265 is my config
<infinisil>
Weird
<s2mitrov>
i'd hope so. the VM has 50GB allotted
<infinisil>
Well let's just hope the minimal config works
<infinisil>
I need to go sleep now, good luck!
<s2mitrov>
Thanks!
<vaibhavsagar>
gchristensen: that's pretty awesome, I didn't know!
<hyper_ch>
how to find out if something from staging was pushed to master?
<gchristensen>
Yep we can talk more about it on the morning. I'm later for bed. Night!
<boomshroom>
Take 3: 11 errors. Is it possible to disable tests?
<vaibhavsagar>
good night!
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<boomshroom>
How can I disable tests for a single nix-store --realise?
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<vaibhavsagar>
boomshroom: you'd have to do it from the derivation
<vaibhavsagar>
something like `checkPhase = "true"`
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<boomshroom>
vaibhavsagar: Would other packages use the overrided version as a dependency? This is a library that Nix itself depends on. The tests probably would pass if it weren't for ulimit.
<vaibhavsagar>
boomshroom: if you made them use the overridden version, I think yes
<boomshroom>
There are 4 other packages that Nix transitively depends on. How would I know which ones themselves require libsodium? (they are sqlite-autoconf, sqlite, and curl and sqlite libraries for perl)
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<boomshroom>
If I've installed nix into a nonstandard prefix with a nonstandard store, where do I put config.nix? My nixos installation has it at ~/.config/nixpkgs/ while the nix pill specifies ~/.nixpkgs/
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<Guest21612>
Does boot.loader.grub require a Bios Boot Partition?
<Guest21612>
I was hoping to be able to use boot.loader.grub like boot.loader.systemd-boot
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<Guest21612>
Since that one doesn't require a Bios Boot Partition
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<Guest21612>
Is there also a way to run nixos-rebuild on /mnt instead of on your own system?
<muzzy>
well I know nix-install has the --root option...
<Guest21612>
nix-install?
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<Guest21612>
I know that --root option for nixos-install
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<Guest21612>
The main problem is that every time I'm recovering from USB, running nixos-install results redownloading everything that already exists in the /nix/store in /mnt.
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<boomshroom>
Nix managed to build itself, but trying to run the bootstrapped version, complains about libz.so.1 being missing. Any tips?
<vaibhavsagar>
boomshroom: you need zlib
<boomshroom>
Shouldn't that have been installed when running `nix-env -i nix`?
<vaibhavsagar>
I believe so, but I thought you were bootstrapping it
<boomshroom>
I already had a manually built installation sitting in ~/opt. I used that to install nix to ~/.nix/ and ~/nix-profile.
<vaibhavsagar>
can you do `ldd $(which nix)`?
<boomshroom>
It's linked to the system zlib which does exist as nix is linked.
<vaibhavsagar>
hmm, weird
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<Guest21612>
Why is my mkpasswd -m sha-512 always wrong?
<Guest21612>
I take the hash and put it in /etc/passwd. Try relogin and it never wokrs/
<Guest21612>
Is there a way to check if th hash generated is correct?
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<boomshroom>
How can I check my nixpkgs version without nixos-version?
<boomshroom>
NVM I think I found it
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<boomshroom>
Nix version 2.0 was released?
<MP2E>
yep, it's now the default in the nix unstable channel as well
<boomshroom>
Updating NixOS now.
<boomshroom>
I should mention my laptop has a dedicated nix partition and it's completely full to the point where Nix won't even let me delete anything.
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<boomshroom_>
My browser claimed connections were closed
<dmj`>
can someone help me with node2nix
<boomshroom_>
I can't even do a GC on my laptop because the partition is too full. `error: opening lock file '.../channels.lock': No space left on device`
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<Guest21612>
When running nixos-install multiple times, appears that changing the password specification for a custom user doesn't update.
<Guest21612>
So once you get it wrong in the beginning it's always wrong... I have to try wiping out the entire /mnt/etc
<boomshroom_>
How can I get Nix running on my laptop again if it can't even lock the store?
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<boomshroom>
I can have my mac tell my desktop to build its packages for it? Sweet!
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<Guest21612>
users.users.<name?>.passwordFile What kind of encrypted file does it expect?
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<boomshroom>
What's a file in nix that's safe to delete to make room for a lock file?
<boomshroom>
I should also ask whether /nix or /nix/store should be on the partition. If the store is shared, not including /nix/var seems like it would not detect GC roots of the other.
<vaibhavsagar>
boomshroom: are there any other files that you could delete?
<vaibhavsagar>
in /tmp for example
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<boomshroom>
The partition is just /nix. It's separate from the rest of the machine. I suppose I could expand the partition slightly.
<boomshroom>
Mac claims the ZFS dataset cannot be resized.
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<vaibhavsagar>
boomshroom: what about something in /nix/var/log/nix/drvs/?
<boomshroom>
those are safe to delete?
<vaibhavsagar>
no idea
<vaibhavsagar>
but it looks like there's no harm
<vaibhavsagar>
worth a shot anyway
<boomshroom>
Now GCing
<boomshroom>
I deleted one of the entries, it managed to delete 7 paths before running out of memory. Should I delete everything in there?
<vaibhavsagar>
the point is to delete the minimum so you can progress
<boomshroom>
Most of the logs are 29K. there are a couple that reach 30K.
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<boomshroom>
running nix-collect-garbage -d seems to create more data when run than it deletes. :(
<dmj`>
Has anyone here used node2nix
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<boomshroom>
Store is finally being cleaned up!
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<boomshroom>
What's the recommended way to install nix 2.0 in an unprivileged environment? I'm willing to throw any my work to get nix on my student drive if it means not dealing with Perl anymore.
<jbetz>
@djinn a -> [a]
<jbetz>
oops, wrong channel
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<boomshroom>
jbetz: I spy Haskell?
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<jbetz>
you do indeed
<boomshroom>
Nix likes taking its sweet time with deleting trash.
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<tertle||eltret>
nix-os rebuild switch
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<boomshroom>
114 MiB freed. It then tried to delete a link that didn't exist and it failed. Any idea why Nix would try to delete a nonexistant link?
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<symphorien>
boomshroom: perl is a build dependency of virtually evrything so I guess you wouldn't get rid of it so easily
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<boomshroom>
Well, I'll try some more tomorrow. Good night!
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<hyper_ch2>
Mic92: ha, recompiling is finished... yesterday at some point it just stopped compiling... I had to ctr-c the nixos-rebuild switch command
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<mduggie>
was there something weird going on with su and sudo in nixpkgs earlier today, or was that just me
<mduggie>
something with wrapper.c
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<nick_l>
In nixops, how do I refer to the AWS instance_id of machine name bobcat in the configuration of another machine?
<srk>
just bobcat :)
<srk>
nick_l: check /etc/hosts on one of the targets
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<nick_l>
srk: that contains mappings from host names to IPs I want to have the instance_id.
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<nick_l>
srk: I am already using config.deployment.ec2.instanceId
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<nick_l>
srk: but that only works for the current host being defined.
<nick_l>
srk: I need something like nodes.bobat.config.deployment.ec2.instanceId is that exists?
<manveru>
nick_l: i think you can access it via nodes
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<manveru>
does nodes.bobcat.deployment.ec2.instanceId work?
<nick_l>
manveru: no
<fearlessKim[m]>
how - in nixops - can I add a file to the base image ? I would like to install a file in a well known location and use it as init program
<manveru>
hmm
<nick_l>
manveru: but with config preprended to deployment it does.
<nick_l>
manveru: so, the thing I expected to work actually does.
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<nick_l>
That's a good thing.
<manveru>
:D
<manveru>
yeah, sorry, i forgot the details
<manveru>
`domains = (mapAttrsToList (key: value: value.config.networking.domain) nodes);` i had this code still around
<manveru>
so it's def with config
<nick_l>
manveru: are you an active user of nixops?
<nick_l>
manveru: or did you already abandon it?
<manveru>
i'm still using it for a few machines, but only a few times a year to update stuff
<srk>
manveru: cool
<srk>
fearlessKim[m]: create a service with ExecStart pointing to your file
<manveru>
it's just awesome for not having to keep the state of your servers in mind, it's all in nix :)
<srk>
fearlessKim[m]: your file can then reside in a store as is common in nixos
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<nick_l>
manveru: but I guess you don't use a lot of cloud resources?
<srk>
manveru: exactly, like currently I would like to have a bare minimum nixops for ssh only (none backend) that could work without any state
<manveru>
fearlessKim[m]: i think you mean instead of systemd-init?
<fearlessKim[m]>
srk I want to use the file as init so I don't think systemd will have been launched by then
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<srk>
fearlessKim[m]: ah, I see, that's more hacking for you then but the same principle should apply
<fearlessKim[m]>
manveru: I mean as a kernel argument init=my_init
<srk>
right
<manveru>
nick_l: nope, i've got a few servers on hetzner and a few VPS around the world for my VPNs
<manveru>
but ok... seems like the reason why it failed is not in the logs?
<michiel_l>
Well, while it worked it reported accepted connection from pid 21764, user root (trusted)
<michiel_l>
Many lines with such reports
<michiel_l>
Now there are none
<michiel_l>
So I'm working from a bind mounted second disk
<michiel_l>
@manveru: fixed it. I stopped nix-daemon and restarted nix-daemon.socket
<michiel_l>
Thanks for helping!
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<manveru>
cool :D
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<esteth>
Hi folks. I submitted a PR to nixpkgs, do I need to do something to get a review, or should I just wait?
<NinjaTrappeur>
esteh: you can just wait.
<LnL>
is it still on the first page?
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<esteth>
LnL: It is not
<esteth>
NinjaTrappeur: Thanks :)
<Soft>
I am having problems getting Radeon RX Vega working with Xorg on nixos, here's relevant bits from glxinfo https://dpaste.de/geMw
<NinjaTrappeur>
esteth, note that I am not a core contributor, I may be wrong ><
<NinjaTrappeur>
but I did not needed to ping anybody so far
<Soft>
dmesg says that amdgpu is in use
<esteth>
NinjaTrappeur: That's OK, thanks anyway :) I can wait - it would just be easier for my colleagues to be able to nix-env -i rather than pulling my nixpkgs fork :)
<Soft>
but it just doesn't seem work and I end up with llvmpipe
<goibhniu>
Soft: can you share your configuration.nix please?
<Soft>
also I have amdgpu in boot.initrd.availableKernelModules
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<goibhniu>
Soft: I don't think you need to adjust boot.initrd.availableKernelModules ... that's a pretty recent GPU, can you show what you get for `nix-info`?
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<goibhniu>
Soft: maybe you should give nixos-unstable a shot
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<Soft>
yeah I was wondering about that, could I maybe just get some of the derivation from unstable
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<sphalerite>
esteth: depending on what it's about, you may want to ping the package maintainer
<clever>
with nixos-unstable 831ef4756e3 i ran into kernel related issues that just stopped amdgpu from working entirely
<sphalerite>
esteth: they do unfortunately sometimes get buried
<clever>
a rollback without a reboot didnt fix it
<clever>
but rebooting to an older generation (f607771d0f5) did fix it
<goibhniu>
Soft: maybe you should try a newer kernel
<Shell>
Hey all... how would I reference 389-ds-base in the Nix language? Trying to do that results in the language assuming 389 is a number and so trying to subtract ds-base from it, which is obviously incorrect.
<clever>
Shell: pkgs."389-ds-base"
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<Shell>
Ah. So I have to ask for pkgs rather than 389-ds-base in my package file?
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<clever>
you might be able to use { std, "389-ds-base" }@args: .... args."389-ds-base" as well
<clever>
stdenv*
* Shell
nods.
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<LnL>
esteth: you can poke people here if nobody looked at it and it disappeared from the first page
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<Soft>
hmm yeah unstable channel seems to have fixed the probelm , now I get the correct driver
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<mfiano>
So I just discovered that NixOS is not ideal to use for Common Lisp development
<NinjaTrappeur>
Is there any way/tool/function to automatically infer a shell.nix from a default.nix derivation?
<sphalerite>
NinjaTrappeur: nix-shell default.nix
<sphalerite>
NinjaTrappeur: unless you want a shell with the derivation built and available, in which case `nix-shell -p`
<mfiano>
My Lisp images in Emacs/SLIME are corrupt because CFFI cannot interface with foreign libraries such as SDL2 even though they are installed.
<sphalerite>
mfiano: by "cannot interface" I'm guessing you mean "cannot find"?
<mfiano>
Yes.
<sphalerite>
This is usually addressed by wrappers that set LD_LIBRARY_PATH I think
<mfiano>
That's not really possible in SLIME
<goibhniu>
Soft: great! The next stable release is coming up, so you could switch to that soon.
<fadenb>
obadz-: Are you using Citrix on NixOS (just stumbled about your i3wm issue with the ica client fullscreen)?
<fadenb>
I am having trouble getting the system to open .ica files with the ica client instead of open office
<NinjaTrappeur>
My question was probably confusing, do you get what I am trying to achieve?
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<sphalerite>
NinjaTrappeur: oh right. In this case the package needs to be composed by the top-level nixpkgs expression, since it has some arguments that it doesn't know where to get
<sphalerite>
NinjaTrappeur: if you want the nevironment for building godot, nix-shell nixpkgs -A godot
<sphalerite>
NinjaTrappeur: if you want a shell containing godot, nix-shell -p '(import ./nixpkgs {}).godot'
<rawtaz>
moin peeps
<sphalerite>
mfiano: maybe you'll wnat to resort to an FHS user env then
<sphalerite>
mfiano: which does some user namespacing magic to pretend you're in a FHS env
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<mfiano>
How would I do that?
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<NinjaTrappeur>
sphalerite: Oh, exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
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<sphalerite>
mfiano: :( one other thing to consider might be running your distro of choice in systemd-nspawn/nsjail/whatever
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<goibhniu>
mfiano: maybe it's worth asking on #guix too ... they know a thing or two about lisp :D
<sphalerite>
^ !!!
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<mfiano>
Ok thnaks
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<kadel>
hi everyone, stupid question from nixos noobie. Why root sees more packages than a regular user? If I run following command as root 'nix-env -qa | wc -l' and as a normal user, i get different numbers (root has more)
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<goibhniu>
hi kadel, is your user using a different channel?
<etu>
kadel: Have you enabled unfree for root but not for your user?
<etu>
kadel: The search doesn't show unfree packages unless you have enabled it
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<NickHu_>
Hi, can anyone tell me how to use the emacs proofgeneral package in NixOS? It doesn't work with emacsPackagesNg
<NickHu_>
And I can't find any documentation describing how to use the old emacsPackages framework
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<gchristensen>
has anyone seen a case where nixops will prompt for an SSH password for a system after its firsts deployment? it places the SSH key it wants to use, but then seems to not use it. this is blocking my ability to fix ofborg's evaluation failures.
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<globin>
gchristensen: using an ssh-agent?
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<globin>
gchristensen: try without (no SSH_AUTH_SOCK), we actually use that as a workaround that nixops uses our keys, not the one it deploys
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<gchristensen>
I unset it, but no luck. here is an interesting thing, in the succeeding one I see debug1: Trying private key: /run/user/1000/nixops-tmp5BidOn/id_nixops-builder-
<gchristensen>
but the failing one it never even tries
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<goibhniu>
hi genesis, let's continue the qt discussion here
<goibhniu>
even nix-build outputs with qt libs can mess things up
<genesis>
i just try cached version, in fact, all my qt is broken
<goibhniu>
genesis: so you want to avoid having any qt programs that use an outdated version hanging around
<globin>
gchristensen: hmm :/ sry can't help otherwise since we're not using the nixops keys
<genesis>
yes but for example, i don't see any qtwebkit 5.10 version
<goibhniu>
genesis: yeah, it's very easy for all qt stuff to break
<gchristensen>
oh you're not?
<gchristensen>
globin: can I tell nixops to use a different, specific key?
<genesis>
hum i use mainly qt apps, lxqt as desktop, that would be a no-go to switch for nixos right now ^^
<goibhniu>
genesis: `nix-store -q --referrers /nix/store/*-qt*-5.9.2` (or whatever the version is that you want to purge) ... can be helpful
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<goibhniu>
genesis: well, they will work fine if you keep them all in systemPackages
<genesis>
it gaves nothing
<globin>
gchristensen: -- -i key maybe?
<goibhniu>
genesis: it's just when you install extra things via nix-env that you get problems
<goibhniu>
genesis: you need to use the correct version
<goibhniu>
... number
<gchristensen>
globin: hmm worth a try. an interesting thing I'm seeing here is in nixops export, configsPath, and toplevel aren't set
<gchristensen>
globin: thank you for the help
<genesis>
hum i could try to put them in their, but i don't understand what it does really.
<globin>
gchristensen: ah there was a bugfix for that I think
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<gchristensen>
%)
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<globin>
gchristensen: ah no i meant something else
<gchristensen>
any nixpkgs contributors available to spam about 30 PRs with a comment for me? :|
<ryantm>
gchristensen: Do I need to do something with my PRs?
<gchristensen>
I made a mistake when I scaled out last night, provisioning too small of server
<gchristensen>
I need to (1) add a check that refuses to start the PR evaluator if the server has too little memory, (2) save the tooling I used to scale out so I don't have to remember this again :P (3) page myself if evals are failing consistently, (4) comment `@grahamcofborg eval` on all the failed PRs since last night
<gchristensen>
I'd like help with #4
<nick_l>
What route tables are supposed to exist no NixOS?
<ryantm>
Sure, I can help with #4
<nick_l>
What route tables are supposed to exist on NixOS?
<nick_l>
I only see "local".
<gchristensen>
thanks ryantm
<nick_l>
And what's the extension mechanism?
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<ryantm>
gchristensen: Done with 4
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<gchristensen>
ryantm: really? just for?
<gchristensen>
four*
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<gchristensen>
well hmm indeed fearlessKim[m], sorry. at first I thought maybe your request was just queued
<ryantm>
gchristensen: I meant #4 I finished them all :)
<gchristensen>
ahh good :)
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<mfiano>
Well, unfortunately I moved away from NixOS on my main development machine
<hyper_ch2>
so, it seems hetzner does also assign the main IP via DHCP... so clever's kexec with my configuration and semi-autoinstaller will come in handy :)
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<gchristensen>
mfiano: I'm sorry to hear that :(
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<vaibhavsagar>
gchristensen: tell me more about this comment spam :)
<gchristensen>
I think ryantm sorted it out :P
<vaibhavsagar>
:thumbsup:
<hyper_ch2>
mfiano: why?
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<gchristensen>
but since I broke the evaluators overnight, I needed someone to trigger all the evals again for all those PRs :(
<mfiano>
Common Lisp tooling just isn't designed to work with Nix. There was some effort by jasom and MichaelRaskin with ql2nix to solve this, but it doesn't work for quite a few Common Lisp tools or packages.
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<ottidmes>
mfiano: And you cannot work outside Nix for that? I did most my nodejs development outside Nix, while on NixOS, although I think nodejs support now is a lot better than it was
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<tazjin>
mfiano: I develop and deploy CL stuff on and with Nix
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<tazjin>
We don't use the Quicklisp-wrapper stuff in nixpkgs though
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<mfiano>
I'm a game developer. I have a very specific tooling setup that has worked for me for a decade. I need to interface with lots of foreign libraries, etc.
<mfiano>
and be able to use Roswell for CI testing
<mfiano>
None of those are possible without serious effort
<mfiano>
Meanwhile, my team is waiting for me
<gchristensen>
mfiano: aye, that is a tricky situation
<rainey>
Hi all, I am learning how to use docker in nix, and am trying to navigate the system. I've loaded a docker image named "editors" which contains the vim package. Now, I've run `docker load < results` successfully and can see the `editors` entry when I run `docker images`. However, I am stuck now. How do I, for example, run vim via this image? Thanks
<gchristensen>
oh, duh, I really should have just read in to it and realized I should do it :P
<gchristensen>
sorry
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<tazjin>
mfiano: I see. I think a lot of the foreign library issues with CL+Nix (I've mostly encountered that with openssl) could be alleviated by teaching ASDF to use `pkg-config`
<fearlessKim[m]>
srk you might need to use nixops master
<srk>
ah, see some patch now
<srk>
ty
<srk>
would be nice to have nixopsMaster as well :D
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<fearlessKim[m]>
it would be nice for any derivation in fact, `getMaster <derivation>`
<srk>
yeah
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<srk>
huh, now when I run ./dev-shell I won't get the right path
<srk>
weird
<datakurre>
Dezgeg: You probably know, if it is possible to cross-compile a complete sdimage for raspberry pi 3 on NixOS after all that cross compilation effort? (Or is there something that makes it impossible?)
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<Dezgeg>
I haven't looked into it, but I think bgamari- and shlevy have gotten quite far
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<ottidmes>
fearlessKim[m]: That ain't so hard: master = import <nixpkgs-master> { config = { allowUnfree = true; }; overlays = []; }; in your nixpkgs overrides/overlays and then you can just use pkgs.master.<pkg-name>, but now it will build/download the whole closure of dependencies from master as well, which is what you want, but it might be costly in terms of space
<datakurre>
Dezgeg: Good to know. Thanks.
<fearlessKim[m]>
ottidmes: where does it find nixpkgs-master ?
<srk>
uh, something in my bashrc seems to break nix-shell. need to clean that up
<ottidmes>
fearlessKim[m]: In this case it would find it on NIX_PATH, you can also specify a path, and probably an URL (never tried that)
<bgamari->
datakurre, it is
<bgamari->
datakurre, I'm cross-compiling images for a Zynq
<gchristensen>
bgamari-: very cool :)
<fearlessKim[m]>
ottidmes: but how do you create that then xD ? I was more thinking of an overlay that recurse into all derviations, override them under the name <pkgNAme>-master
<datakurre>
bgamari-: Awesome! Do you have public example?
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<datakurre>
Probably I’ll find them if there’s any :)
<bgamari->
shlevy and I got together last weekend and did some work
<NickHu_>
Is anyone here familiar with the old emacs package structure in nix?
<bgamari->
on this
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<bgamari->
he did some great work getting perl building more reliably
<bgamari->
unfortunately it doesn't quite work in my case
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<ottidmes>
fearlessKim[m]: Well, I have it for unstable, and I have nixpkgs-unstable on my NIX_PATH via nix.nixPath, and the path I add there is just to my local nixpkgs checkout where it is a git worktree, so it reuses the existing git information (so I don't get multiple checkout of nixpkgs a 600MB)
<phdoerfler>
Hi! I want to read a CSV file with nix and create mail aliases for my mailserver based on what's in that CSV. Can I do that reasonably as a nix expression?
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<ottidmes>
phdoerfler: fileContents, splitString should bring you a long way
<gchristensen>
phdoerfler: any chance you can make the CSV something else like JSON?
<srk>
hmm, how can I check if an element is in list?
<ottidmes>
srk: elem
<srk>
oh, thanks
<phdoerfler>
gchristensen: with a bit of effort I could. My goal is to make it convenient to add new stuff to it, though. In my idea I load the spreadsheet, add a new mail there and save it and off goes nix and does its thing with it.
<phdoerfler>
gchristensen: I suppose I could call a cmd line tool such as awk to make the CSV into something that easier to parse for nix. I assume JSON is the format of choice?
<gchristensen>
phdoerfler: yeah, nix can parse json already is the main motivation here
<datakurre>
bgamari-: Thanks! I’ll look into and learn from that :)
<phdoerfler>
gchristensen: ok I'll see how I can make this happen. Thanks for the pointer!
<gchristensen>
yeah! also having named attributes in the Nix code will make the errors much nicer to debug :P
<phdoerfler>
haha that's a good idea
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<Yaniel>
does nix 2.0 have some variable for the build dir?
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<nahamu>
Yaniel: what do you mean?
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<Yaniel>
cmake's ExternalProject does not seem to understand relative paths
<pie_>
is there a simple oneliner for passing a valid ld.so to patchelf --print-interpreter ?
<Yaniel>
and renderdoc depends at build time on a custom fork of swig, which is in a separate repo and not added as a submodule
<pie_>
i pasted the wrong thing, i want to patch the interpreter
<ottidmes>
Yaniel: I believe there is $PWD, or you could call pwd yourself $(pwd)
<Yaniel>
I tried that but I seem to have the syntax wrong for cmakeFlags
<ottidmes>
Yaniel: You will have to define the cmakeFlags in a preConfigure phase if they contain dynamic values
<Yaniel>
isn't that what placeholders avoid
<Yaniel>
I'm using $out in cmakeFlags that way
<ottidmes>
Yaniel: As far as I know that fails, if you use cmakeFlags as an attribute that way
<Yaniel>
I know, I used to do the preConfigure hack
<Yaniel>
but I want to get rid of it
<Shell>
Ooh, when’s Nix 2 becoming a thing?
<Shell>
Cos I just did the preconfigure hack.
<aminechikhaoui>
Shell: it is already :)
<Yaniel>
it is on unstable
<gchristensen>
Nix 2 is released as stable, and 18.03 will default to it
<Shell>
Ah.
<Yaniel>
gchristensen: no mention of substituting in environment variables
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<gchristensen>
ohh you want the build dir
<Yaniel>
(this wouldn't be a problem otherwise but I need to patch the autogen.sh of the custom swig so I can't just point to the dir I get from fetchFromGitHub
<Yaniel>
)
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<Yaniel>
unless I can hook into the unpack phase of multiple sources separately?
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<Yaniel>
i.e. I have src = fetchFromGitHub {...} and custom_swig = fetchFromGitHub {...}
<Yaniel>
is it possible to intercept custom_swig and patch it so that I can just refer to it with ${custom_swig}?
<Yaniel>
or do I have the thing I do now where I copy it to the cwd in the postUnpack phase and patch it there
<coconnor>
speaking of nix 2. Is there an equivalent to nix-env in the generic nix command?
<Yaniel>
and in the latter case, is there a way to point at it?
<gchristensen>
you can do whatever you want, custom_swig = stdenv.mkDerivation { name = "my-patched-swig"; src = fetchFromGitHub { ... }; ... whatever };
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<manveru>
coconnor: not yet
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<Yaniel>
gchristensen I don't want to build it, though
<gchristensen>
Yaniel: you can do whatever you want. let me make a bigger example
<fearlessKim[m]>
coconnor: I don't think so. A `nix install` would make sense
<gchristensen>
Yaniel: there is no rule that your src has to be a fetchFro... thing
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<Yaniel>
I think I was missing the part about specifying phases for a subderivation
<pie_>
how do i fix if i get this from ldd?: libusb-1.0.so.0 => not found
<Yaniel>
now that part works, thanks
<pie_>
i tried being in a nix-shell with libusb1 but i still get this
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<pie_>
also, what provides libstdc++? :/
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<electrocat>
pie_: gcc
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<mbrock>
ever since Nix 2.0 was released, our channel users have reported that Nix is compiling stuff instead of using our binary cache... I wonder what has changed. Maybe I just need to upgrade my Hydra box to Nix 2.0...
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<pie_>
electrocat, so i need to pull in gcc into my package if i need that? >_>
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<Yaniel>
> This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"
<Yaniel>
wait why is my QT_PLUGIN_PATH suddenly full of qt4
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<mbrock>
oh no, trying to upgrade my NixOS server but it's stuck with nix-build using 100% CPU seemingly without any compilation going on; this is just after listing which paths will be fetched, and saying "fetching path ..." twice...
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<electrocat>
pie_: it'll depend on gcc-lib
<mbrock>
weird, there's also two "download-from-binary-cache" processes that are <defunct>
<electrocat>
not the full gcc
<ottidmes>
mbrock: I have seen this error mentioned a few times, unfortunately not completely sure what the proposed fix was. I think I have had it as well when I updated to Nix 2.0. I just killed it, retried and got a lock error I think, and then just rebooted and then it worked
<mbrock>
ottidmes: ok... I did reboot once and got the same problem
<mbrock>
the server seems to be using Nix 1 daemon with nixUnstable in the systemPackages though, maybe I'll try changing that first
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<ottidmes>
mbrock: You have to specify it via nix.package = pkgs.nixUnstable
<ottidmes>
mbrock: is it nix-daemon that takes 100%?
<mpickering>
omg it actually started, this is the most beautiful thing ever
<mbrock>
ottidmes: no, nix-build
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<coconnor>
mbrock: as for channel users, difference in requiring signed packages maybe? Is the channel signing packages?
<mbrock>
coconnor: ah, yeah, I was suspecting something like that. It is indeed signing the packages
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<coconnor>
I set up a signed binary channel using nix-serve yesterday. What was missing from the process was a way to test the channel aside from "build and see where stuff is DL from..."
<ottidmes>
mbrock: 2018-03-06 14:30:55 nico202 nixos-rebuild switch is freezing for me on unstable, nix-build starts using 100% cpu and that's all, it's only me?
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<michaelpj>
ottidmes: I think new nix-build might not print build logs to stdout by default? So it might actually be building, rather than frozen
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<michaelpj>
don't quote me on that, though
<pie_>
if i want to write a script for installing something for an installer that cant be downloaded from the internet, is there some way to add the installer to the nix store or something and refer to it?
<Judson>
I'm missing something obvious, I think:
<pie_>
i dont want to hard code a path into my nix script
<Judson>
nix-env -qaP '.*(kubectl|minikube).*'
<Judson>
nixpkgs.kubectl kubectl-1.9.1
<Judson>
nixos.minikube minikube-0.21.0
<Judson>
nixpkgs.minikube minikube-0.25.0
<Judson>
cat default.nix
<Judson>
{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:
<Judson>
pkgs.stdenv.mkDerivation {
<Judson>
name = "k8";
<Judson>
buildInputs = [
<Judson>
pkgs.kubectl
<Judson>
pkgs.minikube
<Judson>
];
<Judson>
}
<Judson>
But nix-shell says "attribute ‘kubectl’ missing, at /home/judson/K8Handson/default.nix:9:7"
<coconnor>
michaelpj: "nix build" outputs a fancy single line progress bar. I wonder if that's being used instead of hte standard "nix-build" log?
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<mpickering>
all the icons are missing on the user interface on the Qt application I just built, any ideas for that one?
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<mbrock>
ohh, I think I may have gotten everything to work
<ottidmes>
mbrock: How? If I see someone asking the same question again, maybe your solution can help them out as well
<fresheyeball>
hey out there
<mbrock>
by first keeping the same nixpkgs but upgrading to nix.package = pkgs.nixUnstable, and only then switching to the latest nixpkgs-unstable
<fresheyeball>
it looks like cabal-install is broken on master
<fresheyeball>
I feel like its been months since I can install my env from master
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<fresheyeball>
is something going on that is effecting stability?
<mbrock>
(what I tried before was, instead, making sure to have the Nix 1 daemon before upgrading everything)
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<ottidmes>
mbrock: Ah, so you have to have nix-daemon 2.0 runnin in order to upgrade to the latest unstable?
<mbrock>
ottidmes: that theory would fit my experience, but my sample size is very low :)
<mbrock>
my server might have been messed up in some way, but yeah
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<ottidmes>
mbrock: Well, I probably did not run into your 100% CPU issue, it just froze at the beginning of the rebuild, I did happen to do the same as you did, but I am on 17.09, so it might not matter as much there
<coconnor>
Judson: what is the NIX_PATH? Perhaps "<nixpkgs>" points to an old package set?
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<ottidmes>
mbrock: BTW, if you are on unstable, I think you now have to remove nix.package = pkgs.nixUnstable, because nixUnstable refers to 2.0pre and nix on unstable now is 2.0
<dtz>
ottidmes: I was seeing 100% during the switch too
<ottidmes>
Judson: Did you define kubectl yourself via nixpkgs overrides/overlays?
<dtz>
ottidmes: particularly when activating / *switching*, not building the new connfiguration
<dtz>
when it was setting up /etc files... something re:openresolv went into infinite loop? idk
<mbrock>
ottidmes: oh, good to know, thanks
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<dtz>
was poking at some experimental things, so just jumped back to last working rev (nixos-version) and haven't investigated yet
<ottidmes>
Judson: BTW, you shouldn't post more than two lines of code, link to a paste instead
<ottidmes>
dtz: Are you on unstable or stable 17.09?
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<dtz>
unstable-ish; probably more accurate to say 'recent master'
<dtz>
hmm re:freeze beginning of rebuild. not sure, will let you know if I find anything out :).
<ottidmes>
dtz: Then you might try mbrock's solution, don't upgrade your nixpkgs, first update your config to go to 2.0, only after you successfully switched to 2.0 and have the 2.0 nix-daemon running, upgrade to a more recent nixpkgs, but since you say you have a recent master, this might not help you at all
<mbrock>
actually I noticed on my laptop that nix-prefetch-git fails unless I run it as root with a permission error in /nix/var/nix/db ... I'll check the GitHub issues
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<mpickering>
Is Qt4 deprecated on nixpkgs?
<dtz>
sounds like it's using an old 'nix'
<ottidmes>
mbrock: There was an issue about that, broken permissions, I think the fix was to redo the ownership to root:root for /nix after first remounting it as writeable
<dtz>
try setting NIX_REMOTE=daemon
<dtz>
if that fixes it then it probably directly invokes an older nix
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<dtz>
o_O
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<romildo>
I am packaging Deepin Desktop Environment and found a second package where ld does not find libX11.so.6 and libXext.so.6, needed by libdtkwidget.so. What fix is suggested in this case?
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<romildo>
In the first package this error appeared, I fixed it with -rpath:
<romildo>
for f in tools/svgc/svgc.pro examples/dwidget-examples/collections/collections.pro; do
<srhb>
Has anyone made the vampire release manager joke yet, or am I the first?
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<romildo>
Would it be a better way to handle it?
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<gchristensen>
srhb: do go on
<srhb>
gchristensen: So one of the release managers is vcunat, right? Vladimír. And the release name is Impala, right?
<srhb>
Sooooo Vlad the Impala!
<gchristensen>
omg
<srhb>
(Please can we have a vampire impala t-shirt, pleaaaaase)
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<johnhamelink>
Hey folks! I'm trying out NixOS for the first time today. I'm trying to install on the same drive as a Windows10 install. I've mounted the EFI partition to /mnt/boot, but when I run nixos-install it fails (see here: https://gist.github.com/johnhamelink/1e14ae78b61a9bdf00034ff879a93b59). I've added all the debug info I thought would be helpful to that gist. I hope you guys can help me figure this out! :)
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<srhb>
johnhamelink: Unfortunately I don't think you can get around the GUID/GPT partition table requirement.
<srhb>
johnhamelink: It's essentially part of the spec for EFI boot.
<johnhamelink>
srhb: I thought I was using GPT by using gdisk to format the nixOS partition?
<srhb>
johnhamelink: The *disk* must be GPT formatted.
<srhb>
johnhamelink: And redoing the partition table would nuke your Windows partition, I believe
<johnhamelink>
So what would the best way to setup my partitions be in this scenario?
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<srhb>
johnhamelink: If you want to preserve your partition table (and thus windows) you'd just want to boot via the regular MBR method instead of uefi.
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<johnhamelink>
I thought Windows10 doesn't support MBR?
<srhb>
uuuh. Okay, in that case I'm confused.
<srhb>
Can you check what gdisk actually reports about the partition table of the disk in question?
<mpickering>
The problem is that 8.0.2 ships with Cabal 1.24?
<srhb>
Derp.
<fresheyeball>
I am not sure its that either
<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: Why install cabal-install from 802 instead 822?
<fresheyeball>
I install it the same way with a previous checkout
<fresheyeball>
off 802
<fresheyeball>
and my cabal version is 2.0.1.1
<fresheyeball>
elvishjerricco: because most of my stuff is still 802, for example ghcjs things
<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: cabal-install doesn't need to be built with the same GHC as your stuff. Newer is better in this case :)
<mpickering>
Cabal-1.24.2.0 ships with 8.0.2
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<boomshroom>
Good morning!
<boomshroom>
I'm still trying to clean up my laptop's store so I could update to nix 2.0 and nix-collect-garbage keeps failing trying to delete a link that doesn't exist.
<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: Yea I think `hackage-packages.nix` has cabal-install 2.0, which requires Cabal-2.0, which I doubt is in the ghc802 package set, since Cabal is usually just `null`
<boomshroom>
As does nix-store --gc
<clever>
boomshroom: what is it failing to delete?
<srhb>
elvishjerricco: It does have 2_0_1_1 and I'd guess cabal-install can probably build against it just fine.
<clever>
boomshroom: and what does dmesg say?
<srhb>
But I agree there's no point.
<srhb>
cabal2nix has a similar override.
<srhb>
Though that's probably even less sensitive
<fresheyeball>
elvishjerricco: was it removed? because I have caball 2.0.0.1 right now from the 802 set
<__monty__>
srhb: The point is I can just use the cabal file instead of having to provide a derivation. To appease the unenlightened plebs ; )
<srhb>
fresheyeball: The thing to notice is that while the compilers are frozen, the hackage set is not.
<boomshroom>
The irc is on my desktop, and I'm working on my laptop. I'll go load up irc on my laptop.
<srhb>
fresheyeball: So once the upstream package version starts demanding a newer version of, say, Cabal, this happens.
<fresheyeball>
can we prevent it somehow?
<boomshroom>
2 local machines + 1 remote machine. So much fun!
<gchristensen>
boomshroom: three computers too many
<srhb>
fresheyeball: We could maintain versioned hackage sets, follow Stackage snapshots, freeze individual package, freeze entire package sets....
<srhb>
fresheyeball: Lots of things, all very demanding.
<fresheyeball>
of course..
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<fresheyeball>
darn package management, nix is a big hammer, but not a silver bullet
<srhb>
fresheyeball: In the end, it's easier to just pin nixpkgs at whatever version you care about if you really need older ghc sets.
<fresheyeball>
I know, but that doesn't reallly solve it
<srk>
boomshroom: I've solved this by running irssi in screen and using screen -x on remotes :)
<srhb>
Or stackage2nix and cry that you no longer have a binary cache.
<boomshroom>
That's not counting my 2 phones sitting idle (1 powered off) and my Nintendo behind me. Can't wait for the ability to install linux (and by ludicrous extension: Nix) on it.
<fresheyeball>
I should be able to update things with git pull and not break everything
<ottidmes>
gchristensen: I started out as PHP dev as well, and no matter what language I am writing, I still debug like I used to in PHP :P
<srhb>
Or convince well-types to make stackage have nix sets :-)
<srhb>
well-typed*
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<boomshroom_lapto>
-rw-r--r-- 1 boomshroom wheel 9.6K Dec 31 1969 /nix/store/.links/0w702rv3ddcj5d9mplmhff0c7rias1z9x330z12yg9ik8yzkwsxa
<srhb>
... Dec 31?
<srhb>
What kind of unixtime is this :|
<boomshroom>
I think that's the first time I've pinged myself.
<gchristensen>
srhb: timezones!
<srhb>
Oh, right. Doh.
* srhb
is not too sharp today
<gchristensen>
unix epoch of 0s / 1s, localized. It has confused me too.
<boomshroom>
srhb: Nix resets the access data of all files to maintain reproducibility.
<srhb>
Everyone should just use the same damn time.
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<gchristensen>
srhb: I agree. America/New_York time.
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<srhb>
boomshroom: mtime, but I was confused because it says Dec 31 69 rather than Jan 1 70 :)
<clever>
srhb: its a few hours before midnight, due to the tz
<srhb>
echo!
<srhb>
:-)
<gchristensen>
srhb: or maybe swatch internet time?
<clever>
boomshroom_lapto: yeah, i cant see anything fishy like a symlink
<boomshroom>
boomshroom_laptop: echo
<boomshroom>
boomshroom_lapto: echo
<clever>
gchristensen: any idea why boomshroom cant delete the above file?
<boomshroom_lapto>
boomshroom: echo
<gchristensen>
srhb: remember? what do you mean remember, its 834beats.
<srhb>
:|
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<genesis>
has environment.systempackages meaning on non-nixos ? i wonder how to "rebuild" on non-nixos, i dont understand the advise of putting my qt stuff in there
<gchristensen>
boomshroom_lapto boomshroom : what happens if you stat the file?
<gchristensen>
boomshroom: wait ... so ... whats happening?
<boomshroom>
rm, nix-store --gc, and nix-collect-garbage are failing to delete a hardlink from Nix's link store. (created by nix-store --optimise)
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<gchristensen>
is it in use?
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<Dezgeg>
what's the error it gives?
<boomshroom>
gchristensen: how would I check?
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<srhb>
I wonder if you could delete it by inode. Is that a thing on OS X?
<gchristensen>
boomshroom: I don't know :) why do you want to dolete it? how did we get to this situation?
<Dezgeg>
maybe it has one of those darwin-specific immutable bits set?
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<clever>
boomshroom: what if you run lsattr on it?
<boomshroom>
It's causing nix-store --gc to fail preventing it from deleting it and the other unused hard links that are taking up space on the partition.
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<boomshroom>
clever: that's not a command on macOS
<hyper_ch>
hmmm, I should have gotten auto-ip assigned by Hetzner but it wasn't the case
<sonarpulse>
anybody know about displaylink?
<sonarpulse>
I enabled the driver
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<boomshroom>
proot is complaining that ~/.nix isn't a regular file. It's a directory that https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_Installation_Guide#nix-user-chroot claims I should create. (I deleted the old ~/.nix and made a new one in case that was breaking anything)
<gchristensen>
boomshroom: what is the error?
<boomshroom>
proot error: '/home/abulfone/.nix' is not a regular file
<boomshroom>
fatal error: see `proot_5.1.1_x86_64_rc2--no-seccomp --help`.
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<fresheyeball>
anyone know the good path for doing python dev with nix?
<fresheyeball>
is there a cabal2nix type thing for python things?
<symphorien>
yes there are several
<gchristensen>
boomshroom: sorry, what is the error when trying to delete the file in .links?
<fresheyeball>
(I have never used python, just experimenting)
<symphorien>
{pip,pypi,...}2nix
<fresheyeball>
symphorien: care to make a recommendation as to how to setup a project and build it with nix?
<symphorien>
can't remember which one is the right one though
<boomshroomlaptop>
rm: /nix/store/.links/0w702rv3ddcj5d9mplmhff0c7rias1z9x330z12yg9ik8yzkwsxa: No such file or directory
<boomshroomlaptop>
or with nix-store --gc error: deleting ‘/nix/store/.links/0w702rv3ddcj5d9mplmhff0c7rias1z9x330z12yg9ik8yzkwsxa’: No such file or directory
<clever>
does mac have dmesg?
<boomshroom>
Shall I install nix on my old phone running Sailfish OS?
<boomshroom>
mac does have dmesg
<symphorien>
fresheyeball: the setup is : 1/ write a requirements.txt 2/ run pypi2nix on it 3/ run the magic command giving you the nix-shell out of its output
<clever>
boomshroom: anything abnormal in the dmesg?
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<fresheyeball>
symphorien: ok! I will try that after cabal-install finishes compiling
<boomshroom>
The closest I could find is `ZFS: arc growtime expired` (The partition the store is on is ZFS)
<symphorien>
I currently have pypi2nix so this must be the one which worked best the last time I experimented in this direction
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<clever>
boomshroom: try to umount and export the pool, then re-import and mount, and see what changes
<clever>
boomshroom: and/or check `zfs status`
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<boomshroom>
I don't see import or export in zfs's commands. I see send and receive
<clever>
import/export are part of zpool
<clever>
which reminds me, thats also where `zpool status` is
<boomshroom>
It didn't crash imediatly, so that might have done it.
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<boomshroom>
Shall I try installing nix on my Nexus 4? I like the fact that I can have it offload to my desktop.
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<sphalerite>
boomshroom: would be awesome if you get that working, I'd quite like to get nix running on my old nexus 4 too
<boomshroom>
sphalerite: I should mention that it's running SailfishOS, so it should be quite a bit easier than if it was using Android.
<sphalerite>
is that based on a regular linux kernel?
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<boomshroom>
3G freed by deleting links.
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<fresheyeball>
so I hear that you can manage emacs packages with nix
<boomshroom>
"sorry, there is no binary distoruction of Nix for your platform" :( Guess I'll have to build it manually, on my desktop.
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<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: Yep. That's 100% how I do it
<boomshroom>
In other news, my laptop has installed nix 2.0
<fresheyeball>
elvishjerricco: how do?
<sphalerite>
boomshroom: yeah armv7 is a bit fiddly to get bootstrapped
<boomshroom>
how would I configure my laptop to use my desktop as a builder? The release notes mention `builders = @path` in nix.conf. Can I just replace @path with ssh://name@address:port?
<elvishjerricco>
boomshroom: Are you on NixOS?
<boomshroom>
My desktop is, my laptop isn't
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<elvishjerricco>
Got it. Not sure how to do it without NixOS :P
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<__monty__>
I have an arch server set up as a remote builder for my arch laptop.
<elvishjerricco>
boomshroom: On NixOS, it simply generates a file `/etc/nix/machines` that looks like `user@host system /path/to/private/key maxjobs speedfactor`, and I think the nix commands just know to look there.
<fresheyeball>
collision between ‘/nix/store/bm1j6x76jvk5m5w9zw3rnlsdx35ij9gd-gtk-engine-murrine-0.98.2/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.la’ and ‘/nix/store/0cvpwc44r3av75s43yyhnqm1l9w7cy6w-myEnv/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.la’; use ‘nix-env --set-flag priority NUMBER PKGNAME’ to change the priority of one of the conflicting packages
<fresheyeball>
not sure why this is happening
<elvishjerricco>
e.g. `elvishjerricco@foo.org x86_64-linux /etc/nix/mykey 1 1`
<fresheyeball>
how can I know which package in myEnv is causing this?
<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: Maybe `nix why-depends` on the `.drv` of your system?
<fresheyeball>
elvishjerricco: what does that do?
<elvishjerricco>
`nix why-depends` shows the series of dependencies that makes one path depend on another.
<elvishjerricco>
I'm not sure if it works for `.drv` files or not though
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<__monty__>
Hmm, turns out my setup isn't compatible with nix 2.0 yet, good to know.
<elvishjerricco>
fresheyeball: Failing that, `nix-store -q --tree /nix/store/my-system.drv` will show a tree of dependencies
<boomshroom>
In all my attempts to cross compile, this is the first time I've wanted to compile an actual package for a foregn environment.
<fresheyeball>
that is the output from nix why-depends /nix/store/my-system.drv gtk-engine-murrine-0.98.2
<boomshroom>
With the new store syntax, how do I specify the ssh port?
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<ottidmes>
boomshroom: Not sure, but can't you just specify it as part of your ssh_config?
<boomshroom>
ottidmes: I've always just specified it manually because my desktop uses a non-standard port for a tad extra security.
<boomshroom>
Isn't that for the ssh server rather than the client?
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I also have it on a non-standard port (that removed more > 90% of the hack attempts), but that especially why I configure it as part of my ssh config, that way I do not have to specify it all the time
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: No client config
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I mean, depens on what you mean
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<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I have a non-standard port on my sshd, and hence I have configured my ssh clients to use that port, so I have it configured on both
<boomshroom>
I mean my configuration.nix has services.openssh = { enable = true; ports = [ PORT ] }; and when connecting I use ssh -p PORT name@desktop. I can tell ssh to use a specific port for the specific server?
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: And I of course generate those via Nix :P
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<ottidmes>
boomshroom: programs.ssh.extraConfig
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<boomshroom>
ottidmes: Wow, thanks! Now it's just `ssh desktop` and I can do `nix ping-store ssh-ng://desktop` and it works!
<clever>
ping-store!? :O
<gchristensen>
!!!
<boomshroom>
I saw it in nix --help
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: working substituter?! I keep getting unexpected end-of-file
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<boomshroom>
If you already have a 2.0 version, make sure it's the full 2.0 version with `nix upgrade-nix`
<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I wonder what that does, does it replace it system-wide
<mpickering>
I deleted a file in the /nix/store, how can I get nix to rebuild that path to turn it back into its wonderful pristine state?
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<boomshroom>
ottidmes: If you're on NixOS, it does nothing. On nixos, you have to upgrade on the unstable channel.
<ottidmes>
mpickering: man nix-store, I think you can do --repair or something, maybe --verify
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<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I figured as much, I am on the unstable with regards to nix (17.09 for the rest), that I am still on 17.09 for the rest is probably the problem
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<ottidmes>
boomshroom: I will just refrain from using substituters and other new stuff until 18.03 is released
<boomshroom>
There really needs to be better documentation on cross compiling.
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<__monty__>
boomshroom: Another timesaver with an ssh config for me is a Host definition for github.
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<sonarpulse>
how can I restart the redshift service?
<sonarpulse>
it seems not to use no config file
<ottidmes>
__monty__: I did that, but wondered why it was not working, turned out I was using https://... Can you also easily copy the SSH URL via github?
<__monty__>
ottidmes: Yes, the box with the url usually has a button I think. But I just gic clone github:username/repo
<__monty__>
*git
<bgamari->
Does anyone know what texlive variant provides the fncychap.sty?
<sonarpulse>
ottidmes: do you know where that gets installed?
<ottidmes>
__monty__: Other have, cogs/gitlab I believe, but github no longer has it (I believe it had it at one point). Ah well, I guess I will just do the same you
<ottidmes>
Sonarpulse: where what gets installed? You can check status and see the URL
<sonarpulse>
ottidmes: ok cool
<gchristensen>
Sonarpulse: you may need to --user daemon-reload
<sonarpulse>
gchristensen: thanks
<sonarpulse>
that's looks like it
<ottidmes>
Is there a way to say, systemctl should alias to sudo systemctl, while systemctl --user should not?
<clever>
ottidmes: use a bash function instead of an alias
<clever>
ottidmes: and put an if statement inside it
<ottidmes>
clever: Yep, guess that will do, thanks
<__monty__>
bgamari-: It's in collection-latexextra so only schem-full has it but you can pass fncychap as an argument to texlive.combine
<sonarpulse>
ottidmes: thank you too
<bgamari->
__monty__, ahh, thanks!
<__monty__>
ottidmes: I get the ssh link by default apparently, have to click for https explicitly.
<__monty__>
ottidmes: Maybe it only offers if you have a key registered?
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<ottidmes>
Is there a way to make sure a custom NixOS installer does not point outside the iso contents? Now it just generated warnings when running the activation scripts. So far I have had no issues, but it is asking for trouble of course
<ottidmes>
__monty__: Maybe I have to be logged in, or set some setting
<ottidmes>
__monty__: Yep, that was it, have to be logged, and it probably remembers what you chose last
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<__monty__>
Makes sense, I think you need credentials to use ssh anyway.
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<ottidmes>
__monty__: I just happend to generally do most of my browsing in one browser (tree style tabs, often hundreds tabs), and only login in another browser (I consider those open tabs to be more like apps)
<__monty__>
Github's one of two things I allow to remember my login.
<boomshroom>
I have a arm build of Nix. Now I just need to get it over to my phone. nix copy requires nix-store to be present on the receiver. Is there someway to copy the closure without nix already being present on the receiver?
<clever>
i havent tested that release-arm.nix against 2.0, so id recomend trying 1.11.16
<boomshroom>
"error: file 'nix/release.nix' was not found in the Nix search path"
<clever>
you have to add it to the search path with -I nix=/path/to/nix
<ottidmes>
Judson: The feedback given earlier still applies, you probably configured them differently. I checked on my own system, there is kubernetes, but no kubectl on its own in my nixpkgs
<boomshroom>
So I need to clone it separately?
<clever>
boomshroom: yeah
<clever>
boomshroom: and checkout the 1.11.16 branch
<Judson>
ottidmes I don't understand how a difference could exist there, though.
<Judson>
nix-env says it's there, but nix-shell doesn't?
<clever>
Judson: what nix-env command did you run?
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<clever>
!-A
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<ottidmes>
Judson: Did you run them as different users, what is your NIX_PATH?
<ottidmes>
clever: The bot seems broken
<Judson>
Same user.
* clever
pokes {^_^}
<Judson>
nix-env -qaP and -iA
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<clever>
Judson: what is the exact nix-env command that works, and nix-shell that fails?
<clever>
Judson: ah, i checked the gist
<ottidmes>
Judson: error: selector 'kubectl' matches no derivations with nix-env -qaP, but I have nix-env aliased to nix-env --file '<nixpkgs>'
<clever>
Judson: kubectl is only on nixpkgs, and is not on nixos
<boomshroom>
release.nix called with unexpected argument 'systems'
<clever>
Judson: so one of your channels is newer then the other
<clever>
boomshroom: try an older nix branch, maybe 1.11.15
<Judson>
clever, is this one of the cases where the way nix-env handles channels is confusing me?
<ottidmes>
Judson: So Judson, I recommend updating your channels and creating that alias I am using
<clever>
Judson: nix-env directly uses the channels, so you can access both seperately
<clever>
Judson: but <nixpkgs> maps to the nixos channel on nixos
<clever>
so there is no way to access the channel called nixpkgs using <brackets>
<Judson>
I have a different issue actually trying to get nix-env to install it, because go1.10 :(
<Judson>
clever, is there an altered nix-shell command I can use?
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<boomshroom>
clever: even going back as 1.0, I can't find a systems parameter to nix/release.nix
<clever>
Judson: replace <nixpkgs> on line 3 of your default.nix with the full path to nixpkgs
<boomshroom>
clever: only 2.0 has it.
<clever>
Judson: which depends on which user that channel is on, did you add it with or without sudo?
<clever>
boomshroom: ah, maybe it was one of the 12pre versions i had tested it on
<clever>
boomshroom: the issue with current master, is that it needs nix2 to even parse release.nix
<Judson>
IIRC without. i.e. I'm pretty sure it's my nixpkgs unstable channel
<boomshroom>
I happen to be building with 2.0 right now. Anyway, it seems to be working.
<clever>
Judson: so nix-channel --list shows nixpkgs?
<clever>
Judson: then youll want import /home/clever/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs {} or similar
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<Judson>
Got it.
<Judson>
clever, thanks - the <nixpkgs> is really nixos thing continues to trip me up
<Judson>
I think I've got it going, modulo some GC.
<clever>
Judson: basically, run nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs, and echo $NIX_PATH
<clever>
Judson: and you can play with the value of NIX_PATH and -I on that command, to see how it works
<srhb>
can I override otherwise vendored go packages with other versions somehow in buildGoPackage? extraSrcs doesn't seem to cut it
<Judson>
Speaking of, Nix2 cannot install or uninstall on my machine :(
<Judson>
But I don't think I've got time right now to go into it
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<srhb>
I guess I can just nuke the vendor folder if no nice hooks exist.
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<boomshroom>
I need to head to class some. Bye!
<boomshroom>
Before I leave. My phone doesn't seem to accept my desktop's public key.
<boomshroom>
Bye!
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<gchristensen>
!tofu
<{^_^}>
To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected.
<gchristensen>
the factoids part died indeed :(
<srhb>
meep.
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<srhb>
gchristensen: Do you know if the PR for the channel has been killed off?
<srhb>
The PR pings.
<srhb>
It's eerily silent.
<gchristensen>
eh?
<srhb>
The bot that posts github pr notices here :)
<gchristensen>
ooohh
<srhb>
It was banned? :o
<clever>
a few days ago i think?, when ryan was making about 400 PR's
<clever>
or was it 4000 PR's?
<srhb>
Oh ouch :P
<srhb>
But glad it's returning, thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 8e411e4 Ryan Mulligan: gifsicle: 1.90 -> 1.91 (#36536)...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAxlk
<srhb>
hehe
<MichaelRaskin>
Let's see how long it takes to get it banned again!
<srhb>
MichaelRaskin: The faster we do it, the better 18.03 will be! :-)
<joepie91>
gemishhood: it likely ships a binary build of Electron as its 'Soundnode' binary; try installing Electron from nixpkgs and then running `electron .` while in the soundnode directory
<ryantm>
srhb: I think the next thing I want to do is make a better report of the outdated packages, by maintainer.
<joepie91>
gemishhood: (since the included Electron is a static build, it won't work with Nix' linker by default, and this is easier than patching the bundled Electron)
<srhb>
ryantm: Cool!
<gemishhood>
joepie91: Should I just update it via nmp update electron?
<clever>
gemishhood: try running the electron from nixpkgs on the directory with package.json, you can get it via `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A electron`
<clever>
joepie91: static builds are actually more likely to work on nixos
<joepie91>
gemishhood: no, you need to install Electron *from nixpkgs*, not npm or you'll just get that same static build that doesn't work
<clever>
joepie91: dynamic
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<MichaelRaskin>
Could I ask to add lispPackages to this block list?
<gemishhood>
joepie91: Ok, I also have had the same error w/ popcorntime? I don't think it runs off electron but I could be mistaken
<srhb>
gemishhood: The general story starts about here: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ#I.27ve_downloaded_a_binary.2C_but_I_can.27t_run_it.2C_what_can_I_do.3F
<joepie91>
gemishhood: same issue, but with nw.js :)
<joepie91>
gemishhood: (which is similar to electron)
<gemishhood>
joepie91: Ohh, thanks. The nix build just finished downloading. Should I install it?
<joepie91>
gemishhood: huh? what do you mean?
<ryantm>
MichaelRaskin: Sure, you can open an issue and I'll research how, or just tell me what to grep for.
<gemishhood>
joepie91: I'm not 100% sure, but arent you suppose to nix-env -i ./result/bin or something along those lines. I'm still new to nix
<joepie91>
gemishhood: no, you should be able to just install electron directly as a package from nixpkgs - either by adding it to your systemPackages or by using `nix-env -iA electron` or something along those lines (see https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html for a list of packages)
<MichaelRaskin>
ryantm: ouch, this is not by path
<joepie91>
gemishhood: but my dinner just arrived, so I'm afraid that somebody else will have to help you with NixOS install stuff or it'll get cold :P
<gemishhood>
joepie91: Thanks for the help :)
<ryantm>
MichaelRaskin: My bot is going to fail anyway then. It can't update anything that isn't at package-name/default.nix
<MichaelRaskin>
Ah, that's good for lisp packages.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #36576: google-cloud-sdk: also fix darwin (master...google-cloud-sdk) https://git.io/vAx4H
<rawtaz>
trying to get git from unstable after following the FAQ entry on how to use unstable packages in stable installation, but it gives some errors (and im not getting the unstable git), any pointers to what im doing wrong? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9079445
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a30cb1b Jörg Thalheim: google-cloud-sdk: also fix darwin
<johnhamelink>
Hey folks :) I'm at day-1 of using NixOS as a desktop OS (I'm a long-time arch user). Can anyone point me towards the nixos-correct way to run a tiling WM? I'm struggling to find anything on the wiki or on the internet generally?
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<johnhamelink>
LnL: Yeah I did see this - what I'm more used to is having an xinitrc where I can run whichever WM I choose (my favourite is bspwm). Am I just thinking about this incorrectly?
<rawtaz>
gemishhood: no, im just trying to make git come from unstable instead of stable (i successfully installed it from stable as usual before adding the things from the FAQ i linked to above ,so i do have git stable (2.15.0) already)
<rawtaz>
gemishhood: if i get this running i will probably pull a couple of more packages from unstable, bit this is a start
<gemishhood>
rawtaz: nix-env -e git and nix-env -iA nixos-unstable.git
<LnL>
johnhamelink: the nixos options will do that kind of stuff for you, bspwm is also available check man configuration.nix
<johnhamelink>
rawtaz: That's great for i3 but what if I want to use, say, bspwm with polybar on top. How would I do that? :)
<johnhamelink>
LnL: cool, I will check that manpage, thanks
<johnhamelink>
rawtaz: So would I look for options for any package I want to configure in configuration.nix on the options page on the website?
<clever>
johnhamelink: and nixos uses ~/.xprofile (sourced) and ~/.xsession (executed) for its x init stuff
<johnhamelink>
clever: aha! I think I have enough to figure the rest out now. Thanks guys!
<rawtaz>
gemishhood: well, that's a fine suggestion, but i am trying to declare the installation of git from unstable in configuration.nix (see https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9079445 ), so using nix-env to install it isnt what will solve the problem (which according to the FAQ shouldnt be a problem). im hoping to figure out why there are errors
<ottidmes>
johnhamelink: I just ran polybar from the bspwm config, now I am using lemonbar though
<rawtaz>
johnhamelink: the options reference. the configuration.nix is just where you put them. it contains a few from the start but those are just common and examples
<LnL>
I use environment.etc for the config so reload works when rebuilding my system
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<LnL>
you could do something similar for bspwm/sxhkd then you get rollback, etc. for all of the configuration
<ottidmes>
I like to keep those kind of config files outside of NixOS, because when I am editing them I want to reiterate them fast, and having to do nixos-rebuild switch on each change would become annoying
<johnhamelink>
LnL: where do I learn more about environment.etc? :)
<gemishhood>
at Module._resolveFilename (module.js:485:15)
<gemishhood>
at Function.Module._resolveFilename (/nix/store/nclcwwqk722xxlqd0vcvxgg5gc9xl4zj-electron-1.8.2/lib/electron/resources/electron.asar/common/reset-search-paths.js:35:12)
<gemishhood>
at Function.Module._load (module.js:437:25)
<gemishhood>
at Module.require (module.js:513:17)
<gemishhood>
at require (internal/module.js:11:18)
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<gemishhood>
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/gem/Downloads/soundnode/git/soundnode-app/main.js:11:27)
<gemishhood>
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/gem/Downloads/soundnode/git/soundnode-app/main.js:268:3)
<ottidmes>
johnhamelink: You should thank the people putting their configs online! Documentation is one thing, but often concrete examples work the best in getting understanding
<gemishhood>
at Module._compile (module.js:569:30)
<clever>
gemishhood: ah, you have to run `npm install .` i think, to download those deps
<gemishhood>
at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:580:10)
<gemishhood>
at Module.load (module.js:503:32)
<gemishhood>
A JavaScript error occurred in the main process
<clever>
gemishhood: also, use a pastebin service, or risk the wrath of gchristensen :P
<gemishhood>
at Module._resolveFilename (module.js:485:15)
<gemishhood>
at Function.Module._resolveFilename (/nix/store/nclcwwqk722xxlqd0vcvxgg5gc9xl4zj-electron-1.8.2/lib/electron/resources/electron.asar/common/reset-search-paths.js:35:12)
<gemishhood>
at Function.Module._load (module.js:437:25)
<gemishhood>
at Module.require (module.js:513:17)
<gemishhood>
at require (internal/module.js:11:18)
<gemishhood>
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/gem/Downloads/soundnode/git/soundnode-app/main.js:11:27)
<gemishhood>
at Object.<anonymous> (/home/gem/Downloads/soundnode/git/soundnode-app/main.js:268:3)
<gemishhood>
at Module._compile (module.js:569:30)
<gemishhood>
at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:580:10)
<gemishhood>
at Module.load (module.js:503:32)
<gemishhood>
Sorry about that, Ill add it to a pastebin
<tinco>
hi, I have a question about discovery of nixos features, I wanted to enable virtualbox guest additions, so I googled nixos guest additions
<tinco>
which yields this page /nix/store/w4p40lv4rsgrx7m0kikzmbqmaiyx0xwb-grub-2.02/sbin/grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sde. Check your device.map.
<tinco>
woops
<tinco>
no not that one
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] matthewbauer reopened pull request #35022: nix-buffer: make eshell-path-env be inherited (master...patch-10) https://git.io/vAc39
<gemishhood>
clever: Not sure. I just though of how there is opam2nix and looked for a node version
<gemishhood>
clever: Sorry to bother you, It just came to me a min ago
<ottidmes>
Hmm, I always thought most basic things were shared between most shells, but the read builtin of zsh has completely bash-incompatible options, I guess I will just have to put my script in its own file with a bash shebang
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<djahandarie>
(It obviously currently fails with install: cannot create directory '/etc/xdg': Permission denied)
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<Hail_Spacecake>
hello
<Hail_Spacecake>
is this the right channel to ask questions about using the nix package manager within ubuntu?
<djahandarie>
Oh, looking more closely, I need to pass something useful in the DESTDIR environment variable actually.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a5e28a5 Matthew Justin Bauer: nix-buffer: make eshell-path-env be inherited
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vAx2b
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master c46cd6c Shea Levy: Merge branch 'patch-10' of git://github.com/matthewbauer/nixpkgs
<ottidmes>
ryantm: I see you updated one of the packages of which I am maintainer. You mentioned it was semi-automatic. I am curious how did you automate it? I could imagine you could check for newer rev tags automatically and update accordingly, or trying the same URL of a package with a version bump, but it seems hard to automate due to all the inconsistency in packages, so I am curious
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vAx2A
<Hail_Spacecake>
I'm trying to install qgis on ubuntu with nix-env -i qgis
<Hail_Spacecake>
when the install finishes and I run it
<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: It is, this is the catch-all channel for all things, Nix, Nixpkgs, NixOS, and NixOps, well, you get the point. Although there are some specialized channels.
<Hail_Spacecake>
I get this python error message that has to do with not finding a dependency
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<Hail_Spacecake>
because it stops searching within /nix/store/* and starts searching within /usr/lib/python2.7
<Hail_Spacecake>
which of course doesn't have that dependency
<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: Well nix-shell creates a cleaner environment, so you get less poisoning of the distribution
<Hail_Spacecake>
how do I use nix-shell? I'm still new to nix
<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: I have used Nix for a short while on Arch Linux before going to NixOS, the problem is, you can change the PATH all you want, but you end up breaking either your Nix apps or your distributions apps, at least that was my experience
<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: nix-shell -p qgis will put you into a shell with access to qgis
<Hail_Spacecake>
ah, looks like that does what I want
<Hail_Spacecake>
ottidmes: how was it moving off of arch to nixos?
<Hail_Spacecake>
arch is my distro of choice on my personal computers
<Hail_Spacecake>
to be honest, I've been using arch so long that I would feel a slight sense of nostaligic loss if I switched to something else :)
<Hail_Spacecake>
but nixos seems like it provides a bunch of neat features
<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: Well it was a bit like I expected, it was awesome and frustrating at the same time. It has quite the learning curve, but it is well worth it if you ask me. The frustrating bit is some of the non-obvious and less documented stuff, but the IRC and other peoples configs helped out a lot in that regard
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<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: The only problem you might face is missing some packages that are on Arch Linux's AUR, but not on nixpkgs, although nixpkgs keeps growing and I rarely have to package something myself
<djahandarie>
Hmm, this thing I'm trying to package tries to call python doing something like this: if [ -f /usr/bin/python3 ]; then PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3; else PYTHON=python; fi; exec $PYTHON some_stuff
<djahandarie>
And for whatever reason, nix can't seem to catch that and replace it with a call to the relevant nix store path including python3
<djahandarie>
Is there some way to help nix?
<Hail_Spacecake>
ottidmes: could be an issue for me, I make decent use of AUR
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<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: The biggest difference between Arch and NixOS for me is a similar difference between impure and pure languages, in NixOS it harder to take shortcuts (like in e.g. Haskell), but this has all kinds of nice benefits, while in Arch you can most hack your way around stuff and even obscure things are already packaged
<ottidmes>
djahandarie: I am afraid you will have to patch that yourself
<djahandarie>
ottidmes, hmm, alright. Do you have an example of something which does something similar?
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<ottidmes>
Hail_Spacecake: Doesn't have to be, in Arch you have the core/extra/community that is extensive, but you are almost guaranteed to need some stuff from the AUR, NixOS just has nixpkgs, and it contains packages that you would find in either the base of Arch or the AUR, it will just contain less packages
<Hail_Spacecake>
seems like there's a project called effuvv that draws inspiration from nixos
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<ottidmes>
djahandarie: The blender package has an example similar to yours
<mpickering>
anyone know how to get the install phase in cmake to print the commands it is running?
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<djahandarie>
ottidmes, awesome, this seems very relevant. Thanks so much.
<djahandarie>
(I suppose I could have just greped nixpkgs for something relevant, which I guess is what you just did...)
<djahandarie>
This is the first not-my-complex-software I've packaged, still getting used to it :p
<ottidmes>
djahandarie: Find & Replace in Sublime Text, but yeah, I always have that project handy when I am working on my config
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<Guest21612>
The network is pretty unreliable when running nix builds from source. Everyonce and a while upstream urls break. Hopefully one day those urls will be put onto IPFS.
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<ottidmes>
djahandarie: The biggest problem I still sometime have with packaging has nothing to do with Nix, but everything with the build steps of the software (i.e. the distribution agnostic part), it always seems so uncessary cryptic and complex to me