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<elijh> ottidmes: thanks for the tip
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38091 → iana-etc: 20180108 -> 20180221 → https://git.io/vxrsu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38092 → idnkit: 1.0 -> 2.3 → https://git.io/vxrGh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #38091 → iana-etc: 20180108 -> 20180221 → https://git.io/vxrsu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38093 → i2c-tools: 3.1.2 -> 4.0 → https://git.io/vxrZd
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<ryantm> Woo, those are some nice spikes in graphs: https://repology.org/repository/nix_unstable
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #38094 → nixos/network-scripted: print error details → https://git.io/vxrcW
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* coconnor in sing-song "building... everything is building.."
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<{^_^}> [nix] @matthewbauer closed pull request #2023 → Keep LC_ALL → https://git.io/vxaab
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38095 → gatling: 0.13 -> 0.15 → https://git.io/vxrWu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38096 → gecode: 5.0.0 -> 6.0.0 → https://git.io/vxrla
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice opened pull request #38097 → Remove Java 7 and Java 9, bootstrap JDK 10 via JDK 10 → https://git.io/vxr8Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38098 → fatsort: 1.3.365 -> 1.4.2.439 → https://git.io/vxr8c
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<boomshroom> Good evening!
<clever> ping
<boomshroom> I just used go2nix to generate a nix file for a Joy-Con driver and if I try to run nix build, it complains about not knowing the arguments. How can I tell nix build to pass nixpkgs as the argument?
<clever> boomshroom: it has to be loaded with callPackage i'm guessing
<boomshroom> Another issue I'm having is getting bluetooth to work.
<boomshroom> clever: So I have to give a full expression from the command line?
<boomshroom> Even when it by default tries to call default.nix?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38099 → diction: 1.11 -> 1.13 → https://git.io/vxrBn
<clever> boomshroom: yeah, you still have to evaluate: with import <nixpkgs>{}; callPackage ./foo.nix {}
<clever> either by putting that into a file or by using -E
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<boomshroom> I also think I got the bluetooth to work. I'll just wait until I can build the driver before finding out.
<boomshroom> Well go2nix did jack: `[]`
<kandinski> I can't find where synergy server is logging. I can make it run fine when I launch it as my user and put the configuration in ~/.synergy.conf, but not when I run it as root from /etc/nixos/configuration.nix
<kandinski> where is the stdout from synergys logged to?
<clever> kandinski: the synergy service was broken when a security problem in xorg was fixed
<kandinski> clever: ah thanks
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<boomshroom> Interresting. Go reported missing packages and yet nix considered it a success anyway. That smells like a bug.
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<kandinski> clever: it's probably above my pay grade, but if there's anything I can do to help fix synergy...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38100 → checkSSLCert: 1.51.0 -> 1.64.0 → https://git.io/vxrB9
<boomshroom> I'm trying to add a dependency from the golang.org/x repositories. How do I do that? Treating it like a git repository gives me "no Go files."
<clever> kandinski: the issue has to do with xauth files, we need to find a fixed path that the tokens can be found in, and pass them to xauth
<kandinski> clever: I'm still reading the manuals, but I'll keep it in mind as I read, thanks.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @f--t closed pull request #33262 → supercollider: added alsaLib as dependency, req. for MIDI on Linux → https://git.io/vbxCl
<boomshroom> Claiming that it's hg fails as it's not an hg repo. Claiming it's git fails silently. Cloning it manually with git fails saying it's not a git repo. Using the googlesource url fails because it clones into the wrong directory.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38101 → chromaprint: 1.3.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/vxrRl
<boomshroom> If Monolish and Namco won't make Xenosaga HD for Switch, I'll just have to play Xenosaga Yarr!! on my PC. That said, I will still use the same Joy-Cons.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38102 → checkbashism: 2.0.0.2 -> 2.18.1 → https://git.io/vxrRQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #35795 → libpipeline: 1.4.1 -> 1.5.0 → https://git.io/vA6OV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38103 → confuse: 2.7 -> 3.2.1 → https://git.io/vxr0W
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<boomshroom> Does anyone here have experience using a Steam Controller or Nintendo Joy-Cons on NixOS? I'm specifically interested in the PS2 emulator.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/vxr0V
<{^_^}> → 0fc0f28d by @adisbladis: pythonPackages.linode-api: 4.1.6b0 -> 4.1.8b1
<{^_^}> → 2cf5f3cc by @GlennS: linode-api: 4.1.2b0 -> 4.1.6b0
<{^_^}> → 78206eb3 by @adisbladis: pythonPackages.linode-api: Enable tests
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis closed pull request #33928 → linode-api: 4.1.2b0 -> 4.1.6b0 → https://git.io/vNlC4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #38039 → yakuake: 3.0.4 -> 3.0.5 → https://git.io/vxwfZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vxrEe
<{^_^}> → adc39a9b by @ryantm: yakuake: 3.0.4 -> 3.0.5
<{^_^}> → a7af5d4f by @adisbladis: Merge pull request #38039 from ryantm/auto-update/yakuake
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38104 → buku: 3.6 -> 3.7 → https://git.io/vxrEt
<boomshroom> My computer borked.
<boomshroom> Is it bad to have multiple nix-env commands using the same profile at the same time?
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<adisbladis[m]> elijh: There is also `dockerTools` in nixpkgs. https://lethalman.blogspot.hk/2016/04/cheap-docker-images-with-nix_15.html is pretty good on the subject
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38105 → beancount: 2.0rc1 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/vxrEg
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<semilattice> so anyone know where I can find fetchurl with nixpkgs on darwin? I'm trying to add a package override but I can't take it as input, it's not in nixpkgs, it's not in stdenv and it's not in the namespace from anything else so I'm at a complete loss
<semilattice> The darwin bit is pretty irrelevnat
<semilattice> specifically this is in the config file for nixpkgs
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<boomshroom> Has anyone tried to use Nintendo Joy-Cons with NixOS?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #38106 → bspwm: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.4 → https://git.io/vxruC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @ryantm to release-18.03 « yakuake: 3.0.4 -> 3.0.5 »: https://git.io/vxrzY
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis closed pull request #37899 → qt5: Drop qt-5.9 → https://git.io/vxuwl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 108 commits to staging: https://git.io/vxrz2
<{^_^}> → 4930caae by Tobias Mayer: cquery: init at 2018-03-25
<{^_^}> → f8ed783f by @Ericson2314: meta: Simplify platform check logic
<{^_^}> → 70c6f657 by @fpletz: nixos/version: fix nixops pre 1.6 compatibility
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « python3: 3.6.4 -> 3.6.5 »: https://git.io/vxrz1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #38107 → tor-browser: 52.7.0esr-7.5-1 -> 52.7.3esr-7.5-1 → https://git.io/vxrzb
<dtz> 'evening folks :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #38108 → python3: 3.6.4 -> 3.6.5 → https://git.io/vxrgv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sengaya opened pull request #38109 → ansible_2_5: init at 2.5.0 → https://git.io/vxrgT
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<coconnor> doh de do. evening!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #38110 → tahoe-lafs: install documentation, run tests → https://git.io/vxrgO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #38111 → assorted cleanups → https://git.io/vxrgl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #38112 → some perl packages → https://git.io/vxrgS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #38113 → Fix some downloads in release-18.03 branch → https://git.io/vxrgQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #38114 → nixos: doc module → https://git.io/vxrgj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @augu5te closed pull request #37851 → godot: 2.1.4 -> 3.0.2 → https://git.io/vx0Xj
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<joko> Hello, since qt-webengine builds fine now, could anyone have a look and merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35571 ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dezgeg pushed 3 commits to release-18.03: https://git.io/vxr2x
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<{^_^}> → 0d915831 by @pbogdan: ppp: fix build with newer kernel headers
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @reinhardt opened pull request #38115 → bugwarrior: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.1 → https://git.io/vxrwY
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dezgeg merged pull request #35571 → skrooge: do not build designer library, switch to qtwebengine → https://git.io/vArOG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dezgeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vxrwV
<{^_^}> → faec8f26 by @jokogr: skrooge: do not build designer library
<{^_^}> → ea836060 by @jokogr: skrooge: switch from qtwebkit to qtwebengine
<nick_l> If I have disabled the firewall, is iptables still active?
<nick_l> I want to do some custom iptables commands, but NixOS's manual is rather short w.r.t. networking.
<nick_l> man iptables also seems to be much shorted than the one on linux.die.net
<nick_l> shorter*
<symphorien> there is man iptables-extensions
<symphorien> this one is longer
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #38112 → some perl packages → https://git.io/vxrgS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/vxrrX
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<{^_^}> → 46cdadcb by @7c6f434c: Merge pull request #38112 from oxij/pkgs/perl-packages
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<fearlessKim[m]> can one search haskellPackages with nix search ?
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<nschoe> Hi everyone :)
<nschoe> I'm having an error when running nix-env -u: "error: undefined variable ‘placeholder’ at /nix/store/syadmzcnmh57s5xdb54s6ryp3gj7p23m-unstable-18.09pre133932.ee28e35ba37/unstable/pkgs/development/libraries/pipewire/default.nix:37:46". Do you guys know abou this?
<nschoe> The line in question is: "PKG_CONFIG_SYSTEMD_SYSTEMDUSERUNITDIR = "${placeholder "out"}/lib/systemd/user";"
<nschoe> I guess this ${placeholder "out"} thing is not valid ; but my knowledge in .nix file is too sparse to correct it :/
<ikwildrpepper> nschoe: builtins.placeholder perhaps. wonder if it is a nix 2.0 thing
<LnL> yes, something that only works was added to nixpkgs
<ikwildrpepper> LnL: any idea why we didn't revert?
<LnL> should be fixed with the next update
<ikwildrpepper> ah
<ikwildrpepper> :)
<LnL> :)
<nschoe> LnL, I've just run nix-channel --update, though. Or are you talking about something else?
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<LnL> yeah, but I don't think the update that fixes it is out yet
<nschoe> Okay.
<LnL> you could upgrade to 2.0 ofcorse
<ikwildrpepper> or use a checkout/clone of nixpkgs
<nschoe> Yeah yeah I know, I just wanted to let yoy know about the problem, "just in case".
<ikwildrpepper> nschoe: thnx :)
<LnL> nix-env -iA still works since it's lazy
<nschoe> LnL, when you say "version 2.0", what do you mean? nixos-version gives me 17.09 so it's not that. niv-env --version gives me 1.11.16, so is that nix-env you were talking about?
<nschoe> LnL, yep I could install a couple of packages indeed. I just can't issue an upgrade of my alreayd-installed packages ;)
<LnL> hmm, you're not running into this with the 17.09 channel right?
<nschoe> LnL, yes I am
<nschoe> sudo nix-channel --list gives me:
<LnL> :/
<nschoe> ho no!
<nschoe> that should be in unstable, sorry.
<LnL> ah yeah so it's unstable that's causing problems
<nschoe> Yeah: /nix/store/syadmzcnmh57s5xdb54s6ryp3gj7p23m-unstable-18.09pre133932.ee28e35ba37/unstable/pkgs/development/libraries/pipewire/default.nix:37:46
<nschoe> there is "unstable-18.09" in that.
<nschoe> LnL, by the way, this is something I have been wondering for a long time: is it a bad thing to have "17.09" and "unstable" channels like I do. Like "permanently enabled"?
<nschoe> Is it common practise or... ?
<LnL> you can add this to your configuration.nix to use nix 2.0 on 17.09
<LnL> nix.package = pkgs.nixStable2;
<nschoe> Because I thin that when I install something from nixos.software then when I run nix-env -u, it updates with the unstable.software version.
<h30[m]> why does `nix-instantiate --eval '<nixpkgs>' -A haskellPackages.process` evaluate to null?
<LnL> no that's fine, nixpkgs shouldn't depend on features from nix 2.0 until 18.03 is released and I think maybe even a bit longer
<joko> Dezgeg[m]: thanks!
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<nschoe> LnL, okay but I mean in a more general manner: is it "The Right Way" to have both a stable "current" channel and the "unstable" at the same time?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38104 → buku: 3.6 -> 3.7 → https://git.io/vxrEt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « buku: 3.6 -> 3.7 »: https://git.io/vxriU
<LnL> that's fine you can use whatever you want for your user packages
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38103 → confuse: 2.7 -> 3.2.1 → https://git.io/vxr0W
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « confuse: 2.7 -> 3.2.1 »: https://git.io/vxrim
<LnL> what you use for the system is more important since important services, etc. could potentially break
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38095 → gatling: 0.13 -> 0.15 → https://git.io/vxrWu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « gatling: 0.13 -> 0.15 »: https://git.io/vxris
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38106 → bspwm: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.4 → https://git.io/vxruC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « bspwm: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.4 »: https://git.io/vxriC
<nick_l> What is the NixOS equivalent of "ip addr add 10.0.0.4/24 dev eth0"?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38098 → fatsort: 1.3.365 -> 1.4.2.439 → https://git.io/vxr8c
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « fatsort: 1.3.365 -> 1.4.2.439 »: https://git.io/vxri4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38100 → checkSSLCert: 1.51.0 -> 1.64.0 → https://git.io/vxrB9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @ryantm to master « checkSSLCert: 1.51.0 -> 1.64.0 »: https://git.io/vxriE
<nick_l> It looks pretty easy from the manual.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38101 → chromaprint: 1.3.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/vxrRl
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<nschoe> I see.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38093 → i2c-tools: 3.1.2 -> 4.0 → https://git.io/vxrZd
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<nschoe> But then why not only use unstable?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38090 → isocodes: 3.74 -> 3.79 → https://git.io/vxr3K
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<sphalerite> nschoe: because it may introduce breaking changes
<sphalerite> nschoe: with releases you get the release notes listing all intentional breaking changes, and you can set aside time to read them and make any changes your config might need. With unstable they can be introduced at any time
<sphalerite> nschoe: but a lot of people do opt to use unstable for everything. It does make sense for personal machines for instance
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<kiloreux> I have a package that produces bin-include-lib directories and I want to add it to nix.
<kiloreux> How can I do that and be compliant with nix repository ?
<obadz> kiloreux: most packages produce these directories. have a look at any similar package in nixpkgs
<kiloreux> I did. But there are also package that have the following "outputs = [ "bin" "dev" "out" "man" "devdoc" ];"
<kiloreux> That's why I am asking.
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<srhb> kiloreux: You only need to define outputs if you're making a split derivation
<srhb> kiloreux: (That is, you want people to be able to download eg. include or lib without also downloading bin)
<srhb> kiloreux: If that is what you want, you probably want to set outputs = [ "bin" "dev" ]; in this case
<srhb> kiloreux: You can always check what ended up where afterwards and change as needed :)
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<srhb> kiloreux: Did you read the multiple outputs section of the manual? It might clear up things.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @shlevy pushed to staging « libatomic_ops: 7.6.2 -> 7.6.4. »: https://git.io/vxrXx
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<kiloreux> Just did. Thank you very much srhb . Very helpful.
<srhb> kiloreux: You're welcome. :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #36593 → help2man: 1.47.5 -> 1.47.6 → https://git.io/vAxD0
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<CrazedProgrammer> Does anybody know of a place that sells NixOS stickers (around 5cm in diameter) that ships to the Netherlands?
<srhb> CrazedProgrammer: Doesn't redbubble ship to all of EU?
<CrazedProgrammer> srhb: Ah, yes it does! Thank you :)
<srhb> :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kiloreux opened pull request #38117 → init libaom 0.10 → https://git.io/vxr1S
<kiloreux> How can I make a nix expression use a local nix package as a dependency ?
<kiloreux> It seems I only succeed at making the ones that already exist in nixpkgs
<srhb> kiloreux: using callPackage, usually.
<srhb> kiloreux: That is yourPackage = pkgs.callPackage ./path/to/your/package.nix {}
<nick_l> Why does this make the second AWS instance check fail? boot.kernel.sysctl = { "net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_ignore" = 1; "net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_announce" = 2; }; networking.interfaces.eth0 = { ip4 = [ { address = "172.31.50.6"; prefixLength = 28; } ]; };
<kiloreux> That's what I am currently doing. And I mention "yourPackage" as a dependency in another package. But it doesn't recognize it and complains that "yourPackage" doesn't exist.
<nick_l> It is supposed to get the other IP via DHCP and be equivalent to running ip addr add 172.31.50.6/28 dev eth0.
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<srhb> kiloreux: You'll have to pass it around yourself if you didn't use something like overlays to add it to the nixpkgs tree.
<kiloreux> How can I pass it around myself ?
<srhb> kiloreux: It's a little hard to talk about generally without knowing your project structure, but essentially you will call your different expression with it as an argument.
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<srhb> That is, foo = import ./otherExpression { inherit yourPackage; other arguments ...}
<kiloreux> Thank you srhb . Guess I will just wait for it to be merged inside nix tree :'(
<srhb> The alternative that I prefer is to initially modify pkgs to have all the packages you need, using overlays. That looks like ...
<srhb> project.nix: { pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> { overlays = [ (self: super: { yourPackage = ... }) ]; } }: rest of project
<srhb> Or you could just define an overlay for your user that defines it.
<srhb> Many ways.
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<zybell_> kiloreux: Does it find the file (and has read access to it) ./path/to/your/package.nix?
<srhb> I'm sort of guessing at the problem, but I think they're trying to refer to pkgs.yourPackage somewhere in the project.
<zybell_> To do that it must be imported first, and if the file is unreadable ...
<kiloreux> zybell_, it doesn't find the file in the first place. (Sorry for delay)
<zybell_> So thats your problem.
<srhb> kiloreux: Remember that the path is relative to the importing file.
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<kiloreux> Taken all that into consideration. Here's my gist file https://gist.github.com/kiloreux/9a72707d124414b265d285c89a1ad0fa
<kiloreux> I am uselessly adding libaom as a dependency to dtrx just to test if it's found (Which is not).
<srhb> How do the filenames relate to gistfile123?
<srhb> Ah, I see.
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<srhb> Do you know of a nice tool to upload a tree of files as a gist?
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<kiloreux> I think this https://github.com/defunkt/gist could be helpful.
<srhb> Thanks
<srhb> kiloreux: I'll make the small project.nix example I was talking about.
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<kiloreux> srhb, Alright. I'm looking forward for it.
<srhb> kiloreux: Oh, but you're never using libaom in dtrx.nix
<srhb> Or whatever you called the file in real life
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nbp merged pull request #38115 → bugwarrior: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.1 → https://git.io/vxrwY
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<srhb> kiloreux: But the problem you have at hand is... dtrx = pkgs.callPackage ./dtrx.nix { };
<srhb> you should pkgs.callPackage ./dtrx.nix { inherit libaom; };
<srhb> Since it's not in pkgs, callPackage doesn't find it on its own.
<kiloreux> srhb, that solved my issue Thank you so much <3 .
<srhb> kiloreux: And this is the alternative solution that teaches callPackage to find it: https://gist.github.com/srhb/3c6df7b1009a333a6cfa40849f1fdb8d
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<kiloreux> srhb, That's amazing. Probably going with the second option since it's more elegant. Thank you very much.
<srhb> overlays are very handy :) You're welcome.
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<srhb> (Do note that the second one produces an entire pkgs, so nix-build project.nix -A dtrx for instance)
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<sphalerite> what's a good tool for using serial consoles? I've been using screen up to now but I'm using it inside tmux and it's a bit annoying to have separate scrollback buffers
<sphalerite> I'd like to have tmux handle all of it
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<zybell_> let screen all handle it ;-)
<sphalerite> zybell_: screen doesn't have nice mouse scrolling
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<Dezgeg> I use picocom
<zybell_> less has nice mouse scrolling in mate-terminal/gnome-terminal without extra config. So it is only a question of the right key bindings in your .screenrc.
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<sphalerite> zybell_: tmux *already* has nice mouse scrolling.
<sphalerite> and mouse-based pane selection and resizing and such
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<sphalerite> just let me use tmux, ok?
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<Dezgeg> picocom is great in that way that it doesn't attempt to do fancy things
<Dezgeg> unlike minicom
<sphalerite> I feel like I want something still less fancy
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<sphalerite> socat stdio,icanon=0,echo=0 /dev/ttyS1,b9600 seems to be coming close to what I want
<Dezgeg> how can picocom be too fancy? :D
<sphalerite> it has a menu and stuff :p
<Dezgeg> it does?
<sphalerite> C-a h
<sphalerite> err C-a C-h
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<Dezgeg> I guess that problem is solved by not pressing that button combination
<sphalerite> lol
<sphalerite> well, looks like I'm using picocom. Thanks!
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<zybell_> screen can open a device and pipe it through a command for example netcat. then you can use netcat in tmux to connect to that. screen can run detached in this case.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning opened pull request #38118 → nix-bash-completions: 0.6.4 -> 0.6.5 → https://git.io/vxr9Y
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<zybell_> C-a:exec
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<mounty> Can NixOS be installed from source? The installation guide seems to presume a binary distribution.
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<makefu> mounty: you can disable the binary cache and nix will gladly build everything from source
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<mounty> Thanks makefu; I can see in https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/ that you can do that with the option --option use-binary-caches false but can that be put in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix or elsewhere to make it the default?
<mounty> I am a newbie to NixOS, coming from Gentoo; hence my preference to build from source.
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<sphalerite> mounty: what do you hope to achieve by building everything from source?
<LnL> nix.binaryCaches
<LnL> but nix is source based the reason we have binary caches is reproducability
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<sphalerite> mounty: fwiw you can do it by setting nix.extraOptions = "use-binary-caches = false" https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#nix.extraoptions
<LnL> so building locally doesn't do anything unless you don't trust the cache
<sphalerite> but yeah as LnL says there's no use
<mounty> I hope to achieve security by not running untrusted binaries. Why should I trust the cache?
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<sphalerite> because that's where you probably got nix from in the first place :)
<mounty> Yeah, I know this means http://funroll-loops.teurasporsaat.org/ was written with me in mind but never mind. Haters will hate.
<sphalerite> mounty: if you built from a nix source tarball, you've already trusted the binary cache
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<mounty> sphalerite: I don't get that. If I build from source, what I am trusting? Oh, the compiler of course. But then you rebuild the compiler on the NixOS machine when you upgrade.
<sphalerite> mounty: the nix source tarball is built on nixos systems which use binary caches :)
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<sphalerite> I don't see how burning some more energy ensures more trust. If you've actually vetted all the source code, sure. Or if you want to *verify* the builds from the binary cache, sure. Or if you want to check reproducibility of some derivations, sure. But tweaking this setting isn't going to give you any magical extra security
<sphalerite> oh and the installer image comes from the binary cache too.
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<sphalerite> so unless you're building nix from source on gentoo and you trust gentoo, your trust isn't even rooted!
<sphalerite> that is, building nixos from your source-built-on-gentoo nix
<mounty> No, it's not complete trust because it's not rooted, as you say; but it's greater if you build the system from then go through several layers of self-bootstrapping with successive versions of the compiler.
<sphalerite> it's not. It's just a magical time and energy-wasting button, not a magical security button.
<tilpner> You would at the very least have to verify the nix expressions of all applications and libraries you use
<sphalerite> nixpkgs's bootstrapping is also pretty shallow, none of that successive versions of the compiler stuff
<LnL> the bootstrap tarballs are created like that, but that doesn't really have anything to do with substitutes
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<tilpner> Which is feasible, but a whole lot of work (and has to be re-done on every update)
<sphalerite> mounty: literally all you get by disabling binary caches is wasting time and energy. Thanks to how nix works, you *can* actually trace the full chain of what everythign was compiled with, down to that bootstrap tarball
<mounty> Presumably I can force the bootstrapping by constraining the version of gcc? Then changing the constraint up one version at a time.
<sphalerite> no, the bootstrapping always starts from the same root
<sphalerite> well I suppose you could feed in an alternative bootstrap root tarball
<sphalerite> anyway this is silly
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<mounty> OK, I don't want to say "I'm not listening, la la la". I'll have a look further at what you're saying. I was hoping to get started tonight but I'll leave it for now.
<kiloreux> How can I make a package recognized by pkgconfig ?
<LnL> to clarify the only thing that uploads caches is hydra, using a set of trusted builders
<kiloreux> I am getting "ERROR: aom >= 0.1.0 not found using pkg-config"
<LnL> for most packages you can force a local build with --check and the output willl be exactly the same
<LnL> the nixpkgs repository is more of a security concern than the infrastructure IMHO
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<makefu> kiloreux: generally it is enough to put the lib it requires into the 'buildInputs' list
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<psychic1> Can anyone help me understand the merit of buildEnv? I've read multiple examples that use it to set a dev environment
<psychic1> however, I've also seen examples that build dev environments that do not use buildEnv at all
<psychic1> I've tried to look at buildenv.nix but I was unable to grasp it
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<psychic1> mkDerivation's build inputs already adds libraries to lib/ binaries to bin/ etc, so what does buildEnv has in addition to that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #38105 → beancount: 2.0rc1 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/vxrEg
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<ottidmes> psychic1: Actually, environment.systemPackages is being build with buildEnv: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/6547e61577a024faf6f104fd7fc938ecb1343c36/nixos/modules/config/system-path.nix#L129
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<ottidmes> psychic1: My understanding is that it is a higher-level version of what buildInputs does for a derivation, doing more checks
<psychic1> A higher level of what buildInputs provides? Are those things not useful for a normal mkDerivation?
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<psychic1> I'll take a look at the link
<psychic1> I see. Thanks for that point.
<srhb> psychic1: In the end, buildEnv just symlinks things together.
<psychic1> I've read nix manual, nixpkgs manual, all main blog posts, and I still feel like I don't know where to start with creating an environment for a non-trivial project
<srhb> psychic1: The only real "check" I can think of is that having two inputs with eg. bin/foo both will be an error (because which one do you symlink in?)
<psychic1> I'm not sure how to continue in order to improve my ability and understanding of nix.
<psychic1> I see srhb
<srhb> psychic1: In my experience, trying to find similar project definitions and cargo cult a lot. Or have someone walk you through the logic of setting up a simple-ish project.
<psychic1> Also, perhaps buildInputs does not handle symlinking things such as man pages, while buildEnv does?
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<psychic1> I see people online understand so much and I'm not sure what is the path they took. Is there any natural progression after reading the manuals and blog posts? Or is it trying to code stuff from there?
<srhb> psychic1: It was doing my own stuff from there, yes. Also asking a lot of questions in here :)
<srhb> And looking at existing projects.
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<psychic1> srhb Thanks! I guess I'll start walking that path without being afraid
<srhb> Yeah, you'll probably not *destroy* anything and mistakes are great to learn from :P
<psychic1> srhb: indeed
* joepie91_to_go_ looks at his totally destroyed nix store
<joepie91_to_go_> to be fair, that's caused by faulty RAM
<joepie91_to_go_> :P
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<srhb> joepie91_to_go_: Don't destroy your RAM! :P
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<joepie91_to_go_> hey, it wasn't my fault :(
<ottidmes> joepie91_to_go_: Have you replaced your RAM already? I am now wondering if you should do regular checks on my RAM
<joepie91_to_go_> I actually wonder whether I can still claim warranty
<joepie91_to_go_> ottidmes: well, *I* should probably not do regular checks on your RAM
<joepie91_to_go_> :P
<joepie91_to_go_> ottidmes: more seriously, if your RAM is faulty, you;ll probably notice
<joepie91_to_go_> random segfaults, kernel oopses
<joepie91_to_go_> though a quick memtest every now and then can't hurt
<ottidmes> joepie91_to_go_: lol, was thinking, should I rephrase that, nah, he probably understand what I mean... :P
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<joepie91_to_go_> :P
* joepie91_to_go_ specializes in pedantic humour
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<joepie91_to_go_> ottidmes: fwiw, the software that Lenovo ships with their thinkpads (Vantage) does actually recommend a quick 'live memtest' (ie. without shutting down the OS) every month or so
<ottidmes> joepie91_to_go_: I only ever tested my RAM when I bought used RAM. Its scary to think about how many things could go wrong, so I try to keep the illusion that most of my hardware just works and is like a blackbox, alive
<joepie91_to_go_> heh
<joepie91_to_go_> the collective illusion, really
<joepie91_to_go_> and then meltdown/spectre happen...
<joepie91_to_go_> and suddenly half the world goes "wait, you mean that hardware ISN'T perfectly reliable?!"
<ottidmes> and then the patches of those caused yet other problems
<ottidmes> just like the whole facebook thing right now
<joepie91_to_go_> yep, because as it turns out, everything is broken
<joepie91_to_go_> lol
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<joepie91_to_go_> ottidmes: wait until you find out about OpenGL implementation bugs in specific batches of specific GPU models
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<ottidmes> joepie91_to_go_: My first experience of compiling a C++ program was finding out that it was leveraging a specific bug of a specific version of the C++ compiler used on that particular version of MacOS, while I was trying to build in on Linux... good times
<sphalerite> ottidmes: and I'm guessing this was not even known by the author(s)?
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<ottidmes> sphalerite: Unsure, it definitely was non-standard C++ code, so it seemed to be a conscious decision, but I never knew the author, so cannot be sure
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<ottidmes> sphalerite: But I found the answer on stackoverflow.com, so apparantly other people were doing it as well
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to staging-18.03 « btrfs-progs: 4.14.1 -> 4.15.1 »: https://git.io/vxrNJ
<sphalerite> >_>
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<joepie91_to_go_> lol
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<jasom> I'm trying to access a kindle fire over USB/MTP. When I plug it in, I don't even get a dmesg event. This works on a different linux machine running Gentoo. Any suggestions?
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<zybell_> with the same cable?
<jasom> zybell_: yes
<jasom> only difference I can see in hardware is that the ports are all USB-3 PW on the machine it doesn't work nd the ports are all USB 2 on the machine it does work
<zybell_> Do you get dmesg events if you plug a thumbdrive into that port?
<jasom> yup
<jasom> bah, I tried a third cable and it works now
<zybell_> Is the cable usb2 or usb3?
<zybell_> Never mind
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<nick_l> I specified networking.localcommands, but they are not executed. Why not?
<nick_l> networking.localCommands to be precise
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<LnL> what release?
<nick_l> LnL: 17.09
<LnL> I have some stuff in there and it works afaik
<nick_l> LnL: is it unconditional?
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<LnL> yeah, it does fail in certain circumstances because it's mutable stuff :/
<nick_l> LnL: I can't really use anything which can fail.
<nick_l> LnL: ${pkgs.nettools}/bin/ifconfig lo:1 ${toString eip} netmask 255.255.255.255
<gchristensen> nick_l: can you be more specific? anything can fail.
<nick_l> gchristensen: I only want it to fail if the hardware fails.
<gchristensen> LnL, ok I'm going to take my builder down now and get the testing started
<nick_l> Should I just run a cronjob?
<vaibhavsagar> how do I get the correct sha256 with fetchurl?
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<vaibhavsagar> it just tells me there's a 'store path mismatch' without telling me what the correct path is
<nick_l> Looking at the documentation for that option, it's an interface which should never have existed.
<nick_l> The defaults are to use DHCP and it doesn't specify when it can fail and as such also not when it can succeed.
<LnL> !tofu
<{^_^}> To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected.
<LnL> vaibhavsagar: ^
<vaibhavsagar> LnL: that's the issue I'm having though, using builtins.fetchTarball doesn't give me the right hash to replace it with
<LnL> gchristensen: shouldn't be a problem unless another mass-rebuild hits master, and I can just disable the queue-runner if neccecary
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<LnL> oh builtins.fetchTarball
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<LnL> the next version of nix will show the expected hash in the error message
<LnL> but you can use nix-prefetch-url --unpack --name source $url
<nick_l> Do you think I am interested in seeing that image?
* gchristensen shrugs
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<gchristensen> my impression is no, you're not interested in seeing it, but I find it helpful to remind myself of its content
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<nick_l> now=$(${pkgs.coreutils}/bin/date) && printf "Executed networking.localCommands at time %s" "$now" /tmp/log
<nick_l> Even that doesn't work. So, it doesn't run at all, which means the documentation is lying.
<gchristensen> maybe you could send a PR to fix it up?
<gchristensen> LnL: sounds good, hopefully testing won't take very long :) just getting started now.
<nick_l> gchristensen: have you considered that I might not have time for that?
<gchristensen> nick_l: I have, and it is okay if you don't send a PR to fix it, but it is possible nobody else will either
<gchristensen> s/but it is possible/and it is possible/
<nick_l> Does this all magically work in 18.03?
<gchristensen> if it does work, it is due to time and effort by volunteer contributors, not magic
<nick_l> AFAIK, nixops doesn't even have a 18.03 AMI available, so that's also not really realistic.
<LnL> it only runs after network-setup
<LnL> so if you just do a rebuild nothing will happen
<gchristensen> makes sense it wouldn't have an AMI available, since 18.03 isn't stable yet
<vaibhavsagar> gchristensen: I'm trying to use the new nixosorg/nix docker image, is there a way to add a new user account?
<nick_l> Why isn't it written with the assumption that the scripts will be idemptotent?
<nick_l> idempotent*
<nick_l> Just like everything else.
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<nick_l> [rant]Let me check the design documentation. Oh, wait. There isn't any![/rant]
<LnL> ??
<gchristensen> hard to know, there are possibly not idempotent things in the setup. I'd love it if you sent some PRs to fix it up
<nick_l> LnL: that is not design documentation.
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<gchristensen> however, please know you're being fairly crude and rude to unpaid contributors who work on making this all work. maybe if you don't have time to send contributions yourself, you would like to sponsor some work.
<nick_l> gchristensen: I am not a business owner; please market your company somewhere else.
<gchristensen> or, if you'd like design documentation, you'd like to sponsor the work. in any case, please avoid the rudeness and treat the community and efforts with respect. if you can't, we would rather you not use it.
<LnL> man configuration.nix
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<nick_l> LnL: design documentation is different from interface documentation. Also, in this case this particular interface is not useful, because of the lack of guarantees.
<nick_l> LnL: the RFC process could potentially produce design documentation at some point.
<nick_l> LnL: the thesis describing NixOS is design documentation.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor pushed commit from @Ekleog to master « mdadm: allow sending mail when using opensmtpd »: https://git.io/vxrj9
<nick_l> LnL: systemctl restart network-setup.service # it does not run after this
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor closed pull request #38067 → mdadm: allow sending mail when using opensmtpd → https://git.io/vxw9B
<gchristensen> nick_l: all we can say is we're open to PRs improving what we have, and until someone sends that PR, this is what we have
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor closed pull request #38065 → nixos/gogs: allow git operations over ssh → https://git.io/vxwSx
<drewofdoom> Hey folks, I have a question. I am looking at NixOS to create an appliance to sit in compliance-level networks and run vulnerability scans using OpenVAS. Unfortunately, it does not look like OpenVAS is included in nixpkgs yet. I suppose my best option is to write a package, yes?
<gchristensen> yep! you'd need to at a minimum write a package for it, and if it has services that run, you might want to write a NixOS module for it as well
<gchristensen> vaibhavsagar: do you mean nixorg/nix? or a different image?
<nick_l> drewofdoom: have you written packages or modules before?
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<vaibhavsagar> gchristensen: I mean nixorg/nix, the community one
<vaibhavsagar> I see that it has nothing but nix
<vaibhavsagar> so I'm doing a nix-shell -p busybox and just using that :)
<vaibhavsagar> but I would love to know if there's an easier way
<drewofdoom> I have, but it's been an awful long time. Coming back to NixOS after a hiatus.
<gchristensen> what do you need a user account for? you can in a RUN, do a nix-env -iA nixpkgs.busybox
<gchristensen> LnL: I accidentally rm -rf 'd /nix/store while ofborg was running :')
<vaibhavsagar> gchristensen: I'm trying to get IHaskell working on mybinder.org
<vaibhavsagar> and they have this requirement that the Dockerfile needs to have a user called 'jovyan' and a UID of 1000
<gchristensen> hehe well then I think you've probably found the solution
<vaibhavsagar> okay, fair enough :)
<nick_l> What do you mean by "all we can say"? Is it that you mean that your abilities do not go further? Or that you cannot spend the time on it? Or that you don't want to help me?
<nick_l> (I will paste the answer to my question once I see an answer to that. )
<gchristensen> what I mean is if your itch is unscratched it means it isn't an itch that other people have wanted to scratch yet, and nobody here works for you so you can't instruct anyone to scratch it for you.
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<nick_l> "nick_l: You can use nixops ssh-for-each -p 'systemctl restart network-local-commands.service' to do what you want" would be an example of what you could also have said.
<LnL> gchristensen: it won't be very happy with that :p
<gchristensen> well, the bad news is nobody is paid to offer support, either
<gchristensen> LnL: :D
<gchristensen> LnL: hopefully it didn't scuttle any builds with weird error messages...
<nick_l> gchristensen: sure, but there is a difference between "I know the answer and I am not going to tell you, nananana" and "I don't know".
<gchristensen> you didn't ask a question which would warrant that response, afaict
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vxoJL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #38118 → nix-bash-completions: 0.6.4 -> 0.6.5 → https://git.io/vxr9Y
<nick_l> What do you mean?
<LnL> gchristensen: that's why I disabled my builder, if it's constantly building it sometimes times out or runs out of disk space
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<globin> any other nixos people at easterhegg?
<ryantm> I'm moving my bot operations over to r-ryantm https://github.com/r-ryantm
<gchristensen> ryantm: oh cool, what is your motivation?
<gchristensen> LnL: rm -rf of /nix/store takes so long on a builder :') I wish there was a faster way to tell the FS to just consider an entire tree deleted
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38123 → zziplib: 0.13.68 -> 0.13.69 → https://git.io/vxoJQ
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<nick_l> gchristensen: why don't you just delete the FS?
<LnL> ryantm: have you gotten through the entire list yet?
<nick_l> I am pretty sure that LVM + bindfs should be enough to solve that issue.
<gchristensen> ryantm: maybe don't put in PRs until I can get your bot account approval rolled out
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<ryantm> gchristensen: There are a bunch of reasons: people want to filter the PRs, it's more clear it's an automated thing, a new branch namespace is nice for the bot too
<gchristensen> cool
<Dezgeg> I guess with device mapper thin provisioning one could create a separate filesystem for /nix/store that dynamically allocates space from the outer filesystem (and without reformatting the disks)
<gchristensen> ok deployed, ryantm
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<Dezgeg> then you could just re-mkfs in place of rm -rf
<gchristensen> Dezgeg: darwin :(
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<Dezgeg> ah, then I don't know. some zfs magic?
<ryantm> gchristensen: Oh that was quick, thanks!
<gchristensen> its fine, it doesn't take _that_ long, Dezgeg
<gchristensen> and I don't do it so often
<Dezgeg> ok
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<LnL> gchristensen: with 10.12 we could create a separate fs container for nix and also make it case sensitive to get rid of the weird casing issues
<gchristensen> oh my word
<gchristensen> that sounds very very cool
<LnL> it's similar to lvm/zfs volumes so you don't have to allocate the sizes upfront
<Dezgeg> does apple force migrating to APFS on macOS?
<LnL> they did for ssd devices
<LnL> there's some kind of hidden flag I think but a default upgrade will migrate automatically
<clacke[m]> is anybody using zfs for nix on macOS?
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<adisbladis[m]> clacke: I can give it a go on my apple test machine later tonight
<clacke[m]> I'm very satisfied with zfs for my nix/Ubuntu
<clacke[m]> but as Apple stopped supporting ZFS on macOS years ago I dont know the state of any free alternatives
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<adisbladis[m]> clacke: OpenZFS works great on OSX in my experience
<clacke[m]> adisbladis: oh that would be very kind
<clacke[m]> ok great
<LnL> they never supported it, but there's openzfs and that's still actively being worked on
<clacke[m]> cool
<cransom> gchristensen: also mv /nix/store /nix/store-delete; rm -rf /nix/store-delete & and carry on?
<gchristensen> you'll actually need to get rid of all of /nix
<LnL> sure, if you don't need any io for a while
<gchristensen> (the installer will tell you how :) )
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38124 → xpra: 2.2.4 -> 2.2.5 → https://git.io/vxokJ
<zybell_> on darwin you can use a growing dmg. You only have to copy the (small) template in.
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<vaibhavsagar> silly Nix+Docker question: is there a way to make my host's /nix available to `docker build`?
<gchristensen> I don't think so..?
<vaibhavsagar> this would make my builds so much faster
<sphalerite> vaibhavsagar: I suppose you could expose it using nix-serve or something
<vaibhavsagar> sphalerite: that's a good idea
<sphalerite> oh you mean mounted in directly?
<vaibhavsagar> no, more like a cache
<gchristensen> maybe you could do something with an indirect store or something
<Dezgeg> maybe it can be bind-mounted to some other directory
<gchristensen> yeah^
<sphalerite> yeah using the local store as a cache should work just fine, as long as you can find some reliable way to address it
<vaibhavsagar> sure
<sphalerite> as for bind-mounts, I doubt it
<LnL> if you do that those dependencies won't be part of the image
<vaibhavsagar> I also want the build to work on a remote machine without Nix, so maybe it's worth the agony of watching it redownload and rebuild everything
<vaibhavsagar> so frustrating though
<LnL> there used to be NIX_OTHER_STORES but that was removed
<vaibhavsagar> it's all good, I was asking in case there was a simple/obvious answer I was missing
<LnL> not sure if there's a way to substitute from an actual store, file:// uses nars
<sphalerite> vaibhavsagar: if you've got a server you can expose to the internet for this it will even work for other people :)
<vaibhavsagar> that literally just occurred to me
<vaibhavsagar> maybe I should copy-closure to my Hydra and serve it from there somehow
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<sphalerite> sign no. 1 that you're Thinking With Purity™
<vaibhavsagar> :thinking_face:
<sphalerite> Which is a good thing really, but can stop you from seeing solutions in horrible things like docker :D
<vaibhavsagar> sphalerite: I am unfortunately wedded to Docker because mybinder.org uses it
<sphalerite> I guessed as much. Well, not your specific reason for needing it, but would anyone who knows about nixos really *choose* docker? :D
<LnL> ofcorse the dockerTools don't go through docker and just build a tar using your local store
<vaibhavsagar> my reward for this suffering is that I can have Jupyter notebooks hosted for free in the cloud
<vaibhavsagar> with my kernel of choice, i.e. IHaskell
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<nick_l> sphalerite: there are plenty of reasons for that.
<vaibhavsagar> nick_l: dockerTools covers many use cases without leaving Nix
<nick_l> sphalerite: I know.
<nick_l> vaibhavsagar: I know
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<vaibhavsagar> not this one unfortunately :(
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<vaibhavsagar> does nix-serve still work with Nix 2.0?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38126 → vim: 8.0.1605 -> 8.0.1655 → https://git.io/vxoLX
<LnL> I'd expect so
<vaibhavsagar> thanks LnL
<vaibhavsagar> I was there was an easy way to set up an S3 bucket as a binary cache
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau opened pull request #38127 → numpy, scipy: 1.14.1 -> 1.14.2, 1.0 -> 1.0.1 → https://git.io/vxoLp
<vaibhavsagar> setting up Hydra != easy
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<LnL> nix-copy-closure --to s3://foo ...
<vaibhavsagar> can you copy-closure --from s3://foo though?
<LnL> err nix copy --to s3:// but I'm not sure how to setup the credentials
<LnL> that probably also works
<vaibhavsagar> fair enough, that's significantly easier than setting up Hydra
<LnL> take a look at the nix manual, should be described there
<vaibhavsagar> but still not quite a binary cache
<vaibhavsagar> i.e. something I can put once in configuration.nix and then not think about ever again
<LnL> you need to somehow tell it what to build/upload
<vaibhavsagar> I'm okay with using Hydra to build/upload
<vaibhavsagar> but I would like something like nix-serve for s3
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<vaibhavsagar> so I can put it on a tiny VPS and then use the VPS as a binary cache
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to master « calibre: 3.19.0 -> 3.20.0 »: https://git.io/vxotp
<vaibhavsagar> it seems like all the puzzle pieces are there, but someone needs to put them together
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #38107 → tor-browser: 52.7.0esr-7.5-1 -> 52.7.3esr-7.5-1 → https://git.io/vxrzb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vxoq3
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<gchristensen> :O SLOS!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « dhcpcd: fix /bin/sh impurity »: https://git.io/vxoqC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #38117 → init libaom 0.10 → https://git.io/vxr1S
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/vxoq8
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<monotux> I'm trying to update the hugo (gohugo.io) version, but I don't really understand how to build go packages, anyone with a pointer on a suitable doc for me to read? I was hoping that it was a simple update of version and sha256 in the nixfile but it doesn't seem that easy :)
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: why are you surprised?
<gchristensen> well last I checked they weren't sharing anything publicly, and I'm glad they are now!
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: multiple previous PRs from oxij has been explicitly described as attempts to mainline things already tested inside SLNOS
<gchristensen> cool
<vcunat> I assume most oxij's PRs are from SLNOS.
<MichaelRaskin> I also assume that.
<MichaelRaskin> But for some no assumption is needed
<vcunat> The origin doesn't seem important.
<MichaelRaskin> It shouldn't be important for a local decision on a specific piece of code, but it might be relevant for estimating the future
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to master « parallel: 20180222 -> 20180322 »: https://git.io/vxoqH
<vcunat> Right.
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<coconnor> morning all!
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<{^_^}> [systemd] @vcunat opened pull request #18 → cherry-pick a bugfix → https://git.io/vxoYt
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<coconnor> ah darn. almost got a chance to do more nixos stuff today. Pulled away to teach CI vs CD. ttyl!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #38124 → xpra: 2.2.4 -> 2.2.5 → https://git.io/vxokJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38129 → tortoisehg: 4.5 -> 4.5.2 → https://git.io/vxoYd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to master « nzbget: 19.0 -> 19.1 »: https://git.io/vxoOU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to release-18.03 « nzbget: 19.0 -> 19.1 »: https://git.io/vxoOL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to release-17.09 « nzbget: 19.0 -> 19.1 »: https://git.io/vxoOZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm closed pull request #38129 → tortoisehg: 4.5 -> 4.5.2 → https://git.io/vxoYd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @monotux opened pull request #38131 → hugo: 0.32.2 -> 0.36.1 → https://git.io/vxo3P
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<monotux> first PR for this project, this will probably not go well :D
<tobiasBora> gchristensen: pong. I'll try it next week, this week-end I'll be pretty busy, but I keep it in my mind ;)
<gchristensen> sure, thanks!
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<sphalerite> a friend of mine needs to use python and the gensim python package. gensim is currently failing to build on 17.09 and nixos-unstable. virtualenv doesn't work at all on nixos, it seems. Any quick and dirty solution to get him up and running?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub opened pull request #38133 → dwb: remove package as its insecure and outdated → https://git.io/vxosq
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<monotux> sphalerite I just tried to build gensim, and it seems that the boto3 dependency (for smart-open) is the issue
<sphalerite> monotux: yes, but I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of trying to fix python packages
<sphalerite> just want it to work in as quick-n-dirty a way as possible
<sphalerite> s/possible/necessary/
<sphalerite> let me rephrase: as quickly as possible, and as dirtily as necessary to achieve the former
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<ryantm> sphalerite: If you know a version of nixpkgs where it builds, you can clone the repo, checkout that version and install it.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38134 → supercollider: 3.9.1 -> 3.9.2 → https://git.io/vxosb
<sphalerite> ryantm: I don't
<ryantm> sphalerite: python 2 or 3?
<sphalerite> 3
<ryantm> Linux or Darwin?
<sphalerite> nixos
<sphalerite> otherwise I'd just get him to use virtualenv
<ryantm> Built with nixpkgs 0e762c
<sphalerite> sweet, thanks
<ryantm> Going this route might require a lot of rebuilding though.
<ryantm> Though, maybe it's cached, huh?
<sphalerite> yeah should be I think
<sphalerite> yep
<sphalerite> awesome, thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jerith666 opened pull request #38136 → openjdk: remove 9 → https://git.io/vxoGy
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<mbrgm> shlevy: I found perlPackages.Socket6 to be broken by 306d5cdf03ad6375861a20b8885ef38699ca3c23... do you have a quick idea on how I could fix this, so I can create a PR?
<mbrgm> otherwise, I can also open an issue if you want to
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<yorick> virtualbox 5.2.8 is segfaulting
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<yorick> [ 416.391045] VirtualBox[986]: segfault at 1 ip 00007fffe54abb26 sp 00007fffffff8188 error 4 in libQt5XcbQpa.so.5.10.0[7fffe5453000+124000]
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38138 → python27Packages.spyder: 3.2.7 -> 3.2.8 → https://git.io/vxoZc
<bkchr[m]> Hi, is someone online who would be willing to merge my pr? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/37780
<gchristensen> bkchr[m]: have you pushed recently, or is ofborg "stuck" ?
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<nixos-user> I've installed busybox via nix-env -iA nixos.busybox
<nixos-user> But it seems to break nix-env
<nixos-user> sh: tbl: command not found less: invalid option -- 'R' BusyBox v1.28.1 () multi-call binary.
<nixos-user> nix-env prints the error above
<nixos-user> so how can I uninstall busybox with a broken nix-env?
<tilpner> You could login as root (which still has a working nix-env) and select your users profile
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<nixos-user> I have no idea how to select the users profile
<tilpner> Something like nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/yourusername -e busybox
<nixos-user> That fixed it. Thank you SO MUCH
<tilpner> :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38140 → stdman: 2017.04.02 -> 2018.03.11 → https://git.io/vxon4
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<ThatPako> how do I enable "flags" for a program I want to add to my config? I'm trying to get MPD and looking at the .nix for it made me wonder if all of those `xSupport` things are "automatic" or if I have to set them myself
<ottidmes> ThatPako: See pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix for examples of this, you specify them when calling: callPackage, this is often used to make a minimal and full version of to pin a certain version of multiple versions of a package are maintained
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37844 → supercollider: 3.9.1 -> 3.9.2 → https://git.io/vx08R
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « supercollider: 3.9.1 -> 3.9.2 »: https://git.io/vxocc
<ThatPako> ottidmes: so I have to live with the stuff all-packages.nix enables or do `callPackage` myself?
<ThatPako> I wish there was some place documenting all the config stuff you can set in your configuration.nix
<ThatPako> if you didn't tell me to look at all-packages.nix I would've never found stuff like `config.mpd.*`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38141 → talloc: 2.1.11 -> 2.1.12 → https://git.io/vxocD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37836 → ocamlPackages.ocaml_extlib: 1.7.2 -> 1.7.4 → https://git.io/vx0Gv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « ocamlPackages.ocaml_extlib: 1.7.2 -> 1.7.4 »: https://git.io/vxoCJ
<ryantm> ThatPako: Do you know about https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#mpd ?
<ThatPako> oof
<ThatPako> No, I wasn't aware of that page
<ryantm> ThatPako: Very useful when configuring NixOS :)
<ThatPako> definitely!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm closed pull request #38134 → supercollider: 3.9.1 -> 3.9.2 → https://git.io/vxosb
<ThatPako> Is it worth switching away from SLiM as login manager?
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<ThatPako> Do I have to add `mpd` to my systemPackages or is a `services.mpd.enable = true;` enough?
<shlevy> mbrgm: There was a fix to the perl cross stuff that I merged into staging a while back that may not be on master yet
<shlevy> mbrgm: Can you test there? If not, can you open an issue and ping me?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm closed pull request #38141 → talloc: 2.1.11 -> 2.1.12 → https://git.io/vxocD
<ThatPako> ryantm: btw, looks like those options are only used for changing stuff like the user mpd runs on. The options I was talking about aren't in the list :/
<mbrgm> shlevy: gonna bisect on staging, then I'll let you know
<mbrgm> ty
<mbrgm> what is staging meant for? is there something about the connection between staging and master in the dev/contribution docs?
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<srhb> mbrgm: It's mostly used to batch together world rebuilds.
<srhb> mbrgm: (That may or may not break the world)
<srhb> So master is kept in a mostly buildable state without having to start all the way from libc and i[/
<srhb> ... and go up
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<mbrgm> I see
<srhb> ThatPako: It looks like there's an mpd.extraConfig, did you see that?
<srhb> ThatPako: That's a common idiom. The most used or sometimes just most simple options are abstracted out into nixos options, and the rest you can just throw into the generated configuration file with extraConfig.
<ThatPako> srhb: that only adds to the config file though
<srhb> Oh, sorry, perhaps I didn't read back far enough :-)
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<ThatPako> the `opt`s I'm talking add support for things like flacc or soundcloud by adding optional dependencies
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<srhb> ThatPako: Ah, so build options? Yeah, that rarely has to do with NixOS options
<ThatPako> wasn't entirely sure what they are called. I only noticed that there's a lot of `opt` in there and all-packages.nix enables only a few of them. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/d09e425aea3e09b6cec5c7b05cc0603f6853748b/pkgs/servers/mpd/default.nix#L53-L84
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<ThatPako> all we get from all-packages.nix is aac,client,ffmpeg and opus support
<srhb> ThatPako: Right, okay. Do you want a quick rundown on how to configure one of these? Pick an option.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji opened pull request #38142 → pythonPackages.root_numpy: fix build → https://git.io/vxolM
<ThatPako> I would like to add flacSupport :/
<vcunat> (hmm, deleting a branch is reported as "pushed 0 commits" :)
<srhb> ThatPako: OK, so we will need to use two things
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<nick_l> The planets just aligned/We have liftoff.
<nick_l> In other news, I should probably write tooling which continuously checks every little assumption I make, because clearly there are many.
<srhb> ThatPako: Our goal is to alter the arguments that mpd is called with (it's a function, after all) in the nixpkgs used by your NixOS
<srhb> ThatPako: But first: As far as I can see, flacSupport is enabled by default. Are you sure this is the problem?
<nick_l> It seems a pretty difficicult tradeoff to make. Writing tools for everything costs time, but debugging also costs time. For debugging you need to understand the whole system all at once, which can be overwhelming.
<ThatPako> it's enabled by default? :thinking:
<srhb> ThatPako: Line four of its definition: , flacSupport ? true, flac
<ThatPako> that means it defaults to "enabled"? oof
<srhb> Yes, it also has, in configureFlags: (mkFlag flacSupport "flac")
<nick_l> ThatPako: yes, it's not exactly standard.
<ThatPako> ohh, then the config options for stuff like aacSupport used in all-packages.nix allow you to disable a few thngs
<srhb> That is, if flacSupport is true, it's configured with --flac
<nick_l> ThatPako: you are talking about ternary expressions, right?
<srhb> ThatPako: Yes, but that way of configuring is mostly unused at this point, and honestly quite confusing imo.
<ThatPako> it sure is
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<ThatPako> looks like I can just install mpd then
<srhb> ThatPako: Learning how to do regular overrides is worth more, and used much more commonly.
<srhb> Okay. I guess we can do the overlays rundown some other time then :-)
<ThatPako> do I add it to systemPackages though or do `services.mpd.enable = true`?
<srhb> ThatPako: Adding it to systemPackages will just put it on path and such. services.mpd.enable = true will create systemd units and enable them and such
<ThatPako> do I need both then?
<nick_l> ThatPako: no
<srhb> Usually enabling a module will put it on path automatically.
<ThatPako> oh
<srhb> If it's needed anyway :)
<srhb> Some things need no human interaction and thus are not.
<nick_l> ThatPako: it is really important to understand the difference between packages and modules.
<ThatPako> I should really refactor my configuration. wew
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<srhb> ThatPako: I basically only have non-daemon stuff in systemPackages
<srhb> the daemons take care of themselves via the module system.
<ThatPako> do I add gnupg to systemPackages?
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<srhb> If you want.
<srhb> But that won't take care of user sessions with gpg-agent, so you might want to use the module instead
<nick_l> I wonder how fast one can actually learn NixOS and all related tooling on a meaningful level.
<ThatPako> and using the module automatically adds it to my path?
<nick_l> ThatPako: not necessarily.
<srhb> nick_l: I got a few colleagues able to write modules and packages in about a month.
<nick_l> ThatPako: you basically have to know the module.
<srhb> They had question of course, but were able to ask meaningful questions that are easily answered, most of the time.
<nick_l> ThatPako: if the module has a line adding it to systemPackages, then yes.
<srhb> ThatPako: It does not, so it will not be on PATH.
<nick_l> srhb: what kind of output can they produce after that time?
<srhb> nick_l: What do you mean? What kind of volume?
<nick_l> srhb: mostly whether it is non-trivial.
<srhb> Ah, definitely non-trivial. Much easier than packaging for, say, Debian or the likes.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #37780 → gst-rtsp-server: Init at 1.12.3 → https://git.io/vxRbJ
<{^_^}> → 666ea61b by @bkchr: gst-rtsp-server: Init at 1.12.3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/vxo4t
<{^_^}> → 6596abea by @bkchr: Adds myself(bkchr) as maintainer of gst_rtsp_server
<{^_^}> → 77917ffc by @grahamc: Merge pull request #37780 from bkchr/gst_rtsp_server
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38143 → sonarr: 2.0.0.5153 -> 2.0.0.5163 → https://git.io/vxo4q
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<elvishjerricco> In nixops, why is ec2.securityGroups considered incompatible with ec2.subnetId? I use those together in the AWS console all the time
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37811 → rust-bindgen: 0.32.1 -> 0.35.0 → https://git.io/vx0Ll
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @dywedir to master « rust-bindgen: 0.32.1 -> 0.35.0 »: https://git.io/vxo4y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37806 → hpx: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/vx0In
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « hpx: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.0 »: https://git.io/vxoB2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38140 → stdman: 2017.04.02 -> 2018.03.11 → https://git.io/vxon4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from R. RyanTM to master « stdman: 2017.04.02 -> 2018.03.11 »: https://git.io/vxoBo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38145 → tiled: 1.1.3 -> 1.1.4 → https://git.io/vxoB6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38138 → python27Packages.spyder: 3.2.7 -> 3.2.8 → https://git.io/vxoZc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from R. RyanTM to master « python27Packages.spyder: 3.2.7 -> 3.2.8 »: https://git.io/vxoBD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38130 → urh: 2.0.0 -> 2.0.1 → https://git.io/vxo38
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from R. RyanTM to master « urh: 2.0.0 -> 2.0.1 »: https://git.io/vxoRU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #37979 → newsboat: 2.10.2 -> 2.11 → https://git.io/vx28y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #38128 → umockdev: 0.11.1 -> 0.11.2 → https://git.io/vxoma
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/vxoRE
<{^_^}> → 579de350 by R. RyanTM: umockdev: 0.11.1 -> 0.11.2
<{^_^}> → 977737a9 by @jtojnar: Merge pull request #38128 from r-ryantm/auto-update/umockdev
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38126 → vim: 8.0.1605 -> 8.0.1655 → https://git.io/vxoLX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from R. RyanTM to staging « vim: 8.0.1605 -> 8.0.1655 »: https://git.io/vxoRw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38146 → newsboat: 2.10.2 -> 2.11.1 → https://git.io/vxoRX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from R. RyanTM to staging « zziplib: 0.13.68 -> 0.13.69 »: https://git.io/vxoRy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38123 → zziplib: 0.13.68 -> 0.13.69 → https://git.io/vxoJQ
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<ThatPako> btw, how do I know something is a module or a package?
<infinisil> ThatPako: It should be pretty obvious
<infinisil> ThatPako: A module is a nixos module that adds nixos options and/or sets some, a piece of nix code
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<ryantm> .type = "derivation"
<nick_l> ThatPako: a package is something which evaluates to a derivation.
<nick_l> ThatPako: (perhaps given some arguments.)
<ThatPako> hm...
<nick_l> ThatPako: in the nixos subdir of nixpkgs you can find the modules.
<ThatPako> Then I only found the mpd package but not the module?
<ThatPako> oh
<nick_l> ThatPako: modules also typically specify options.
<ThatPako> Oof, I just got a ghc panic when trying to install a haskell package ;-;
<srhb> Which version of ghc? That should never happen.
<srhb> (As in, that is always a bug.)
<ThatPako> I just added `haskellPackages.vimus` to my systemPackages
<ThatPako> and rebuilt
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @davidak opened pull request #198 → add missing word → https://git.io/vxo0u
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37794 → freeciv_gtk: 2.5.10 -> 2.5.11 → https://git.io/vx0vz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « freeciv_gtk: 2.5.10 -> 2.5.11 »: https://git.io/vxo02
<srhb> ThatPako: That's not how you should add haskell packages, however. At least not usually.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37801 → greybird: 3.22.6 -> 3.22.7 → https://git.io/vx0Uo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « greybird: 3.22.6 -> 3.22.7 »: https://git.io/vxo0V
<ThatPako> oh
<srhb> ThatPako: Are you on 17.09?
<ThatPako> it worked with xmobar so I thought that's how it's done
<ThatPako> yea, I'm on 17.09
* srhb checks it out
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37792 → fmit: 1.1.13 -> 1.1.14 → https://git.io/vx0en
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « fmit: 1.1.13 -> 1.1.14 »: https://git.io/vxo06
<srhb> If you're not using it as a library but an executable, it probably is fine.
<ThatPako> my nix-info is a bit weird though
<{^_^}> [nix] @grahamc opened pull request #2027 → Backport #2026: Expand the multi-user installer to support Linuxes with systemd → https://git.io/vxo0P
<jtojnar> Is it possible to apply overlay just to a single package (and its dependencies)?
<srhb> jtojnar: Not in any really sensible way, aside from using a separate nixpkgs for that package.
<ThatPako> it claims that my user has a different channel (18.03pre) but my .nix-channels is empty
<srhb> I can reproduce the GHC panic, but.. What on earth is going on there..
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37787 → urlwatch: 2.8 -> 2.9 → https://git.io/vxRhw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @layus to master « urlwatch: 2.8 -> 2.9 »: https://git.io/vxo07
<jtojnar> or maybe somehow re-scope callPackage? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/38028#discussion_r178319190
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37778 → tlspool: 20170123 -> 20180227 and fix (for 18.03 release) → https://git.io/vxRdi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @Infinisil to master « tlspool: 20170123 -> 20180227 and fix »: https://git.io/vxoEt
<srhb> ThatPako: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9825 -- it should be marked as broken on NixOS until that is fixed.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38085 → rivet: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.0 [stable backport] → https://git.io/vxrT9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @veprbl to release-18.03 « rivet: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.0 »: https://git.io/vxoEG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz reopened pull request #38084 → rivet: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.0 → https://git.io/vxrTo
<ThatPako> > opened 3 years ago, last modified 2 years ago
<ThatPako> oof
<srhb> Apparently it used to only fail for 32 bit builds though...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz merged pull request #38084 → rivet: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.0 → https://git.io/vxrTo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @obadz pushed commit from @veprbl to master « rivet: 2.6.0 -> 2.6.0 »: https://git.io/vxoE4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-18.03 « dhcpcd: fix /bin/sh impurity »: https://git.io/vxoER
<ThatPako> guess I'll drop vimus for now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bkchr opened pull request #38149 → Updates gstreamer and plugins to 1.14.0 → https://git.io/vxoEg
<srhb> I might be able to make a workaround..
<ThatPako> this can be fixed? :thinking:
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37830 → mbuffer: 20171011 -> 20180318 → https://git.io/vx0Y8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « mbuffer: 20171011 -> 20180318 »: https://git.io/vxoEb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37793 → freecell-solver: 4.16.0 -> 4.18.0 → https://git.io/vx0eh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « freecell-solver: 4.16.0 -> 4.18.0 »: https://git.io/vxoEh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37785 → giac: fix url → https://git.io/vxRp2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @symphorien to master « giac: fix url »: https://git.io/vxouI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « cups: fix patch download without a rebuild »: https://git.io/vxouC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-18.03 « cups: fix patch download without a rebuild »: https://git.io/vxouB
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<ThatPako> btw, how do I make stuff auto-mount in NixOS?
<srhb> Nope, lazy linking doesn't seem to cut it. No idea for a workaround then.
<ThatPako> Aww, what a bummer.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat closed pull request #38113 → Fix some downloads in release-18.03 branch → https://git.io/vxrgQ
<ThatPako> Is enabling udisks2 enough for removable media to auto-mount?
<ThatPako> nevermind, it is enabled by default
<infinisil> ThatPako: It is? I've never seen anything being automounted
<ThatPako> infinisil: I assume udisks2 isn't enough for auto-mounting then. according to this it is enabled by default though https://0x0.st/sMKL.png
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<infinisil> ThatPako: Ah it is running indeed
<infinisil> Probably just doesn't automount stuff by default
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<ThatPako> infinisil: installing udiskie added automounting for me. Not sure if one could enable it with udisks2-only too though
<infinisil> ThatPako: You just add udiskie to environment.systemPackages and then stuff gets automounted? :O
<ThatPako> nah, you also have to run udiskie at startup
<ThatPako> just added it to my bspwmrc
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<infinisil> Ah, I'd put that in a systemd service too if I were to run it
<ThatPako> I'm way too dumb for systemd :^)
* hodapp shrugs
<ThatPako> damn, it won't mount my phone though
<infinisil> ThatPako: iPhone?
<ThatPako> nah, Android
<ottidmes> ThatPako: It is an Android phone? I had trouble getting it to mount, but managed to get it working
<ottidmes> ThatPako: What desktop manager are you using?
<ThatPako> bspwm
<ThatPako> wait no, that's WM
<hodapp> I do sort of want to learn OpenRC at some point rather than systemd... hmm.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed to remove-dwb « dwb: remove package as its insecure and outdated »: https://git.io/vxogP
<ottidmes> ThatPako: none is a valid answer as well
<infinisil> (You can also not run a DE at all)
<ThatPako> I don't really have a desktop manager, I guess
<hodapp> though it'll wait probably until SLNOS gets support in, which might be never
<infinisil> hodapp: SLNOS?
<infinisil> No wait I'm just gonna google it
<hodapp> suckless NIXOS
<hodapp> er, NixOS
<infinisil> What is that?
<zybell_> udisk doesn't mount anything thats mentioned in fstab!
<ryantm> ThatPako: You might need a udev rule for smartphones: https://github.com/ryantm/nixfiles/blob/master/configuration.nix#L55
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<infinisil> Oh interesting
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<ottidmes> ThatPako: This is what I used to get my Android phone to work: https://pastebin.com/MMSV7hFJ (I use the gnome3.nautilus file manager)
<hodapp> some folks in the channel know more than I do on this, but I forget which folks :P
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe telling the entire story is a better fit for #nixos-chat
<hodapp> re: SLNOS?
<MichaelRaskin> Yes
<ThatPako> ryantm: tried your rule (changed the owner's name, of course) but it doesn't seem to change anything. Maybe I have to add mtpfs somewhere?
<infinisil> It's still mostly on-topic though
<ryantm> ThatPako: You'd have to make a rule specific to your phone.
<ThatPako> oh, oof
<ryantm> ThatPako: try using lsbusb to see what's connected to your computer.
<MichaelRaskin> infinisil: it would be a wall of text, and there is some actual technical support trying to happen here
<{^_^}> [nix] @grahamc merged pull request #2026 → Expand the multi-user installer to support Linuxes with systemd → https://git.io/vxwQv
<{^_^}> [nix] @grahamc pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/vxo2C
<{^_^}> → 4ba91f5b by @grahamc: Check for the existence of a profile target before seeing if it mentions Nix
<{^_^}> → 2921165a by @grahamc: Expand the multi-user installer to support Linuxes with systemd
<{^_^}> → f06f8102 by @grahamc: Use a looser comparison for the 'user note' check
<{^_^}> [nix] @grahamc merged pull request #2027 → Backport #2026: Expand the multi-user installer to support Linuxes with systemd → https://git.io/vxo0P
<{^_^}> [nix] @grahamc pushed 5 commits to 2.0-maintenance: https://git.io/vxo2W
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<ThatPako> ryantm: my phone is in the list from lsbusb and I changed the vendor/product IDs but it still won't mount. do I have to actually reboot or should a rebuild be enough?
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<zybell_> can you mount it from shell? What cmd do you use?
<ThatPako> nah, it won't show up anywhere I could use to figure out how to mount it
<ThatPako> lsblk doesn't show it at least
<zybell_> if it runs mtp no wonder, its a char dev.
<ThatPako> oof
<ThatPako> I guess it runs MTP, yea. It's android 7
<zybell_> Then you need fuse
<makefu> go-mtpfs is what i use, however it is not mounting automatically right now
<zybell_> Can you find the dev? dmesg can help there.
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<zybell_> makefu: If the command to run is clear, automating to run it is easy.
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<ThatPako> is it a systemPackage?
<makefu> zybell_: i guess you could do it with an udev rule, however it does not `just work` with udiskie or similar stuff
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<ThatPako> hm...
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<zybell_> makefu: of course not, even nowadays computers have to be programmed to do our bidding.
<makefu> :D
<zybell_> ThatPako: Now we need all matching /dev lines to usb3-9
<ThatPako> oof
<BlessJah> /ll/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37532 → ocamlPackages.type_conv: 112.01.01 -> 113.00.02 → https://git.io/vxcCe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @ryantm to master « ocamlPackages.type_conv: 112.01.01 -> 113.00.02 »: https://git.io/vxoVf
<ryantrinkle> how can I test the `nix` package?
<ryantrinkle> i just want to build and test whatever the regular way is, but I'm having some trouble sorting out how to do that
<ryantrinkle> (nix-build release.nix doesn't work for me, and i wasn't sure what else to try)
<clever> ryantrinkle: run nix repl on release.nix, and look at the build attribute
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37529 → ocamlPackages.pa_ounit: 112.24.00 -> 113.00.00 → https://git.io/vxcnJ
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<ThatPako> zybell_: how would i get those?
<Dezgeg> nix-build release.nix -A build.x86_64-linux
<ryantrinkle> clever, Dezgeg: awesome, thanks!
<ryantrinkle> and that'll run the tests?
<zybell_> Normally one of themb should contain 0e8d/2008 (or : or the other way around)
<ThatPako> so I should just look at all the files in /dev?
<Dezgeg> yes it does run the basic test suite, not the full suite of VM tests and stuff though
<zybell_> BlessJah was right ls -lR /dev|grep ... can help. You can even do diff.
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<ThatPako> there's nothing in /dev that looks like it would relate to my phoen
<ThatPako> *phone
<zybell_> That is : find /dev >old;connect phone; find /dev>new;diff old new
<zybell_> something in /dev/bus/usb
<ThatPako> Oh, you were right. one in /dev/bus/usb and /dev/char
<clever> zybell_: or just `udevadm monitor`
<srhb> ryantrinkle: I think you want -A tests for that :)
<ryantrinkle> srhb: thanks :)
<ThatPako> zybell_: can I just mount one of those? or is it harder than that?
<zybell_> Which is symlink to what? What names? I would expect sth usable in dev/by-id
<zybell_> harder
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<ThatPako> the one in char is symlinked to the one in usb
<clever> ThatPako: modern phones dont use usb mass-storage, so you cant just mount the filesystem
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<zybell_> names pls
<clever> ThatPako: you need to use the mtp protocol instead, which is mostly handled via fuse helpers
<ThatPako> `/dev/bus/usb/003/026`
<ThatPako> clever: there is one in nixpkgs (`mtpfs`) but I'm not sure where I should add that to my configuration
<zybell_> dev/char?
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<clever> ThatPako: you have to run mtpfs to mount it
<ThatPako> `/dev/char/189:281`
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<ThatPako> hm...
<ThatPako> so should I add it to my systemPackages?
<clever> yeah, that would work
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<ThatPako> clever: is `nix` an alias on your system? trying to run `nix` on mine just tells me `command not found`
<clever> ThatPako: nix 2.0 feature, you can get the same effect by just putting it in systemPackages
<ThatPako> Oh, I see
<clever> all it did was add mtpfs to $PATH
<zybell_> that is only the encoded position on the bus, that doesnt help to automount. First we need some stable ref, preferably using the serialnumber.
<joepie91_to_go_> clever: isn't that just the equivalent of `nix-shell -p mtpfs`?
<clever> zybell_: modern phones never expose a block device,so you cant just mount them
<clever> joepie91_to_go_: yep
<clever> joepie91_to_go_: but nix-shell also tries to download a lot of dev-time things like gcc
<zybell_> clever:scroll back I know.
<ThatPako> oof, I think `mtpfs` is stuck on `Attempting to connect device`
<clever> well, that explains why it doesnt accept any flags, lol
<clever> ThatPako: it may need root to open the usb node
<ThatPako> won't work with sudo either
<clever> and in my case, the phone popped up a confirmation to allow/deny the instant i plugged it in
<zybell_> ThatPako: You try to go the third step before the first.
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @domenkozar pushed commit from @davidak to master « add missing word (#198) »: https://git.io/vxor8
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @domenkozar merged pull request #198 → add missing word → https://git.io/vxo0u
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<zybell_> If you got that far, your phone would ask you for confirmation.
<ThatPako> nope, not getting anything on my phone
<clever> LIBMTP_Get_Storage() failed:-1
<clever> zybell_: mine fails like this when the phone asks for confirmation
<clever> and if i accept, and try to reconnect, it just fails later with ls: cannot access 'phone': Transport endpoint is not connected
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<ThatPako> my phone won't as but I can reproduce your error when switching from file transfer to "charge only"
<ThatPako> *ask
<zybell_> Yeah timeouts should be observed.
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<zybell_> Your phone is that old, that you have a 'file transfer'mode ? Is it a real P9000?Nokia?
<ThatPako> nah, it's the Elephone P9000
<ThatPako> it runs android 7 so it shouldn't be _that_ old :p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37150 → gpx: init at 2.5.2 → https://git.io/vxq32
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @leo60228 to master « gpx: init at 2.5.2 »: https://git.io/vxor5
<zybell_> Do you have a general permission set for connect?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37219 → mercurial: 4.5 -> 4.5.2 → https://git.io/vxYMu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #37129 → tortoisehg: 4.5 -> 4.5.2 → https://git.io/vxtX1
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<zybell_> I would take that back for testing
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<zybell_> ThatPako:Do you have a general permission set for connect?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji opened pull request #38151 → pythonPackages.smart_open: fix build, 1.5.6 -> 1.5.7 → https://git.io/vxoK7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #37935 → meson: 0.44.0 → 0.45.1 → https://git.io/vxgay
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<doyougnu> Hey all quick question. I'm running xmonad, but I cannot simple perform a "xmonad --recompile" because I get errors that xmonad cannot find xmonad xmonad-contrib and xmonad-extra. So what is the proper way to recompile xmonad?
<doyougnu> or I guess I should say, must I use nix-shell to recompile xmonad everytime?
<infinisil> doyougnu: Have you set services.xserver.windowManager.xmonad.enableContribAndExtras to true?
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<doyougnu> no, I'm using xmonad ad-hoc, and then getting kde5 to use it as it's WM.
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<infinisil> doyougnu: Then you should use xmonad-with-packages and pass in xmonad-{contrib,extras}
<infinisil> I'm pretty sure
<doyougnu> ok i'll give it a try
<i-am-the-slime> How would I change tray icons when using xmonad
<i-am-the-slime> (and trayer)
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<i-am-the-slime> nm-applet is the worst
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<infinisil> no idea, never used tray icons
<infinisil> Maybe that's a gtk theme thing
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #36556 → user/group assertion to not exceed the 32/16 character limit → https://git.io/vAxTa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @qknight to master « user/group assertion to not exceed the 32 character limit »: https://git.io/vxoP2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #36497 → light-locker: 1.7.0 -> 1.8.0 → https://git.io/vANyH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @tadfisher to master « light-locker: 1.7.0 -> 1.8.0 »: https://git.io/vxoPS
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<lostman> is there a way to take nix closure and create a tarball out of it? there's nix-copy-closure but it seems it only works with ssh
<lostman> I just want to send someone a pre-built binary
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<symphorien> lostman: tar xvf $(nix-store -qR /nix/store/foo)
<MichaelRaskin> cvf, not xvf
<symphorien> Mmh true
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<symphorien> Well you get the idea ;)
<ottidmes> symphorien: https://xkcd.com/1168/
<lostman> cool. how do I import it? just untar? but then could potentially overwrite something
<lostman> is there a nix command to import it into someone else's /nix while making sure nothing bad happens?
<MichaelRaskin> Wait, there is Nix on the other end?
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<lostman> yeah
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<MichaelRaskin> Then it is more of a nix-store --export
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<lostman> ah cool. so `nix-store --export $(nix-store -qR paths) > out`
<lostman> will try that!
<MichaelRaskin> I guess with Nix 2.0 on both ends you can just nix copy … --to file:///path/to/cache-directory
<MichaelRaskin> (and copy --from on the other end)
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<zybell_> It could only overwrite the exact same files because of sha
<MichaelRaskin> zybell_: it's not as simple as you describe it
<MichaelRaskin> Also, on a well-configured Nix-carrying system the store is read-only anyway
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<zybell_> yeah to import a tar one must set write/become root. That should be obvious from start.
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<sphalerite> zybell_: typically it's mounted read-only so not even root can modify it
<MichaelRaskin> Being root is not enough
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<zybell_> Ok that was the set write for.
<MichaelRaskin> Not really set write
<MichaelRaskin> you need to remount the bind
<MichaelRaskin> (preferably inside a namespace)
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<sphalerite> zybell_: it's *mounted* read-only so you can't even modify file permissions
<sphalerite> root bypasses file permissions so changing them shouldn't be necessary, but even if it were necessary it wouldn't be possible :D
<symphorien> Anyway putting the files in place is not enough, you have to update the sqlite db I think
<sphalerite> ^
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<zybell_> that was what i meant with 'set write' / You can write every readonly-mounted filesystem if you open a /dev/loop on the file and mount that rw if that old bug still exists.
<zybell_> file=device file
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<MichaelRaskin> I would estimate the dat aloss risk as quite high for that…
<sphalerite> anyway, what you actually want is nix copy :p
<sphalerite> and with that, good night!
<ryantm> Is there a way to look at an in-progress `nix build` log?
<MichaelRaskin> nix copy has been mentioned already
<zybell_> You are the only writer. No data loss.
<MichaelRaskin> ryantm: seems at least nontrivial…
<MichaelRaskin> zybell_: a nix-build could be running in parallel
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<MichaelRaskin> Also, the filesystem itself is mounted read-write
<zybell_> In the same sha dir?
<MichaelRaskin> Erm, if you double-RW-mount an FS, I wouldn't count that just writing to different directories will save you
<MichaelRaskin> Optimised search trees are a bit more fragile than that.
<zybell_> mounted read-write root wins, mounted read-only double mount wins.
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<MichaelRaskin> zybell_: the filesystem is mounted read-write
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<MichaelRaskin> Only the bind mount on top of it is read-only
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<doyougnu> infinisil: still didn't work. Let me make sure I have the process right. I switch to xmonad-with-packages, then boot up a nix-shell with xmonad-{contrib,extras} and then recompile in that shell right?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #38088 → libvisio: 0.1.3 -> 0.1.6 → https://git.io/vxrqf
<infinisil> doyougnu: I think so, such a shell should have an xmonad with the packages you gave it
<zybell_> Then the best way is to run a 'builder' that extracts the tar
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pbogdan opened pull request #38152 → gmtp: pass --datapath in the wrapper → https://git.io/vxoMW
<doyougnu> hmm ok, it seems to have trouble finding xmonad at all in that shell. perhaps I'm invoking it wrong? I'm just doing nix-shell -p haskellPackages.xmonad-{contrib,extras} -p haskellPackages.xmonad
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<infinisil> doyougnu: That's not using xmonad-with-packages
<infinisil> doyougnu: nix-shell -p 'xmonad-with-packages.override { packages = p: with p; [ xmonad-extras xmonad-contrib ]; }
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<doyougnu> infinisil: that did it
<doyougnu> thanks a bunch
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<pbogdan> jtojnar: could you fix evaluation on master after libvisio merge?
<jtojnar> pbogdan: right, sorry
<pbogdan> s@mpl2@mpl20@ is what's needed AFAICT
<infinisil> doyougnu: :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to master « libvisio: fix license »: https://git.io/vxoMb
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<pbogdan> jtojnar: thank you :)
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<qzzque> If I install `flow-bin` via node2nix, I get a "no such file or directory" error when I try to run the executable. This sort of makes sense since `flow-bin` is installing an ocaml executable. I see some mention of patchelf, but that sounds like a pain. Is there a good story for npm binaries? Or should I just use the nixos flow package here and hope there are similar options on future occasions?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38155 → renpy: 6.99.14 -> 6.99.14.2 → https://git.io/vxoHs
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<infinisil> You know what would be nice
<infinisil> To integrate NixOps with domain registrars
<infinisil> And add a proper DNS module, so you can do everything from nixops
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<fnlkj> dam, i don't even know what nixos is yet...cant rememebr when/how i got here.....but sounds..possibly interesting..
<infinisil> Heh, it is very nice
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<fnlkj> anyway, incase unaware, sites like github has plenty similar, but example github.com/Angristan has some easy few-click scripts to setup things like a local dns server (iirc w dnscrypt&dnssec), using dnscrypt-proxy & dnsmasq packages i think..
<fnlkj> hmm...that's quite a short line and doesnt tell me much more, but.... got tempted to now because of you still=D lol..hmmm...bored anywaym, ..i may just try this thing now then infact!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #38156 → rofi: 1.5.0 -> 1.5.1 → https://git.io/vxoQZ
<infinisil> fnlkj: Well NixOS already has multiple DNS modules. So you can get dnsmasq running with just `services.dnsmasq.enable = true;`
<infinisil> What I want is a module that lets you easily declare DNS records (A, AAAA, CNAME, etc.)
<infinisil> Because currently I'm writing my DNS zone file pretty much manually and it's a pain
<infinisil> NixOS could make that much easier
<fnlkj> cool, but idd a, aaaa etc. i think should be an easy minor addition..without yet knowing what nixos is
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<joepie91_to_go_> infinisil: 'registrar' and 'DNS provider' are two separate things, btw :P
<zybell_> infinisil:djbdns has add-host ... and so on. And the textfile for conf is like passwd.
<infinisil> fnlkj: You can of course create such records, but then you need to write them into a file manually, with a line like e.g. `foo IN CNAME example.com.` for foo.example.com, but NixOS could have an option to enable you something like `domains = [ "foo" "bar" "baz" ];` that would automatically put a CNAME for each
<joepie91_to_go_> a bunch of providers offer both but they're not inherently tied
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aperiodic opened pull request #38157 → gflags: now builds on case-insensitive filesystems → https://git.io/vxoQz
<infinisil> joepie91_to_go_: Yeah, my registrar allows me to use my own DNS server, so that's why I'm thinking of both
<fnlkj> infinisil: thats the "normal" way innit... i mean without guy
<fnlkj> gui
<fnlkj> ..good practice i mean, .. not a b ad thing =)
<fnlkj> and, really, not That bad, much work or a notable inconvenience either heh
<infinisil> fnlkj: Yes, but using nixos options for that has benefits
<fnlkj> hmh.. yeah imma try get it up in..vmware, virtualbox?..
<fnlkj> just put up win16 on a laptop (virtualization seem supported), but Docker whining hyper-v aint activated... not sure if minior lacking or wtf up with it......mh. or should i set off a dedicated box for it specifically?
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<infinisil> zybell_: I'm not sure what you mean
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<zybell_> fnlkj: yeah!
<zybell_> infinisil:look ^^
<infinisil> That might just be the worst landing page I've ever seen
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<zybell_> On my 6k connect renders fast.
<fnlkj> maybe they rather focused on quality code, and don't monetize their stuff in sneaky ways..
<infinisil> I don't care about that
<infinisil> It took me a couple minutes to just find out what it even is
<infinisil> 2 links deep I could find this: https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/blurb/overview.html
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<infinisil> And having 50 links on the start page doesn't really help with that
<fnlkj> hm:/ .. if kinda want some old fashioned .. hit-counter, .. flashy text n stuff..geocities, angelfire? ..frmo those days, and some almost funnily decorated page as such, with their icons... cuould be a nice change ha
<fnlkj> on slow laptop..X tabs open already...i still am yet to see that same asyou're..hhhhhhhh
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