<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDsN8
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master eda5bca Maximilian Bosch: geogebra: 5.0.271.0 -> 5-0-320-0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2b96107 Joachim F: Merge pull request #22231 from Ma27/hotfix/update-geogebra...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar opened pull request #22399: modules lib: type description in type error message (master...module-errors) https://git.io/vDsNp
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[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vDsxN
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 21751d9 Mohammed Yaseen Mowzer: geogebra: 5.0.265.0 -> 5.0.271.0...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 e67d70f Maximilian Bosch: geogebra: 5.0.271.0 -> 5-0-320-0...
<contrapumpkin>
I have another annoying Nix escaping question
<contrapumpkin>
so I have a multiline nix string
<contrapumpkin>
and I want the literal '${foo} string to appear within it
<contrapumpkin>
I can build that outside the string and splice it in, but that feels awful
<contrapumpkin>
the obvious thing would be '''${foo}, but that doesn't work
<c74d>
what about building it inside the string and splicing it in
<c74d>
likely only a bit less awful
<MichaelRaskin>
« '${"$"}{foo} » does look awful
<contrapumpkin>
that's not as awful as I was thinking, actually
<contrapumpkin>
thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] taktoa opened pull request #22400: dotnetPackages.Boogie: init at rev 5e42f0d (master...boogie) https://git.io/vDGeb
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin force-pushed openssl-1.1 from fcce88e to b2b687d: https://git.io/vDOWO
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 2a93438 Robin Gloster: openssl: default to openssl_1_1_0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 ede01d4 Robin Gloster: socat: 1.7.3.1 -> 1.7.3.2...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 8085073 Robin Gloster: afflib: 3.7.6 -> 3.7.15
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<benzrf>
hey so im trying to install a haskell pacakge and its failing with "Setup: At least the following dependencies are missing: Cabal >=1.24.0.0 && <1.25:
<benzrf>
"
<benzrf>
what causes this?
<benzrf>
is it picking the wrong version of cabal somehow or something?
<taktoa>
(that basically just says "ignore the version bounds in the cabal file, I know what I'm doing")
<taktoa>
(if the version bounds really are correct, though, you'll have to either overrideScope with Cabal-1.24 or you'll have to fix bugs in the library itself)
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<taktoa>
weird, though, because `ghc-pkg list Cabal` gives me 1.24.0.0 on my machine... are you using nixos-16.09 with GHC-8.0.1?
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<tyuiuo>
I just installed nixos with lxqt and it seems the start menu isn't working. Can anyone help me? Is there an executable name for the menu? Or a log for lxqt?
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<paperd>
~/.xsession-errors?
<tyuiuo>
paperd: empty file
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<nhooyr>
does nixops automatically reuse machines or does it create new ones on every deployment?
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<simpson>
nhooyr: It reuses the machines.
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<nhooyr>
ok cool
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<nhooyr>
say I have a nixops configuration for a database. Is it ok to set up the password for the database within the configuration? The configuration itself won't be copied to the server right? The server would just be configured based on the configuration.
<pikajude>
the password will be in the nix store somewhere
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<nhooyr>
damn, is there anything else I can do to make the password not in the nix store? Am I forced to use a different type of authentication? Like ident for unix sockets or TLS certificates?
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<nhooyr>
also, how would one do a zero downtime with nixops? Like say I have two services defined. haproxy and some webserver. In order to do a zero downtime deploy and update my webserver, I need to start the new version of my webserver and then get haproxy to stop sending requests to the old one and start sending them to the new one. Finally, the old web
<nhooyr>
server shuts down after handling all its requests.
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<sophiag>
hi. i installed nixos for the first time yesterday (with a bit of pain involved) and kde is behaving a bit bizarre, which wasn't the case when using the live cd. mainly there doesn't seem to be a plasma widget for wireless and since i don't have dhcp utility installed this leaves me with seemingly no way to get online to download packages and set t
<sophiag>
hings up :/
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<sophiag>
even many basic command line tools available on the live cd weren't installed. vi even...
<tilpner>
I forgot if the default config has networking.wireless enabled. Did you edit your config at all before installing?
<sophiag>
i did, but sparingly as initial attempts were causing the installation to fail. i did set networking.wireless to true
<sophiag>
and i should mention i can scan connections fine from terminal. but without any way to install the dhcp tool...
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<tilpner>
You can reinstall with an updated config if necessary. You don't always need dhcp
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<sophiag>
true, but i would like it eventually
<tilpner>
Yes, but you could configure your router to give you a static IP for now, then configure that manually, then add dhcp
<sophiag>
i'm debating whether to go back to the live cd and rebuild with gnome since that would be my preferred window manager if i'm using one at all
<sophiag>
i don't have access to the router is the thing
<tilpner>
Rebuilding with networking.networkmanager.enable = true and networkmanagerapplet might be the fastest way
<tilpner>
If you don't want to rebuild: do you have LAN or an Android device?
<sophiag>
as mentioned above, i had networking.networkmanager.enable = true already
<tilpner>
Wait, tethering probably doesn't work yet
<tilpner>
(You didn't mention that)
<sophiag>
you asked and i responded "i did"
<sophiag>
anyway, besides the point. just that isn't the issue
<tilpner>
You said you enabled networking.wireless, which is a different thing. I have no experience with it
<sophiag>
oh i'm sorry
<sophiag>
also i *do* have the kde network manager, just not the wireless widget
<sophiag>
i guess for starters i should ask if i have the live cd loaded, but am not booting off of it if i can have nixos rebuild and install things from it until i can get online
<sophiag>
if i leave the live cd in on startup then it just boots off that and i don't have access to my regular build (or at least haven't figured out how to)
<tilpner>
I didn't try with Nixos yet, but with Arch I often mounted and chrooted into my existing installation. You could do that, fix your config, and nixos-rebuild. Probably
<sophiag>
oh, if i could figure that out that would probably be the easiest route
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<tilpner>
So, I have to ask again, which one of the options did you enable?
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<tilpner>
(Go look in your config, maybe even link it here)
<sophiag>
"networking.wireless.enable"
<tilpner>
Aww. If it was networkmanager you could just have used nmtui
<sophiag>
well, i do have the kde network manager. but that's distinct from the wireless widget
<sophiag>
is there a command to get nix-env to install things from the cd rather than remotely? that would certainly make things easier
<tilpner>
I have no idea if it would work, but you could copy the nix store from the cd to your local system, which probably includes a dhcpcd
<sophiag>
but even then i wouldn't know how to get it to install from there rather than trying to connect to mirrors
<sophiag>
perhaps if you do know for sure how to chroot into my build after booting from the cd then i should just go that route
<sophiag>
otherwise i have to format the drives and do a totally new install until i get the config set up so i can get online :/
<tilpner>
If everything works as expected, you could just nix-env -i dhcpcd after copying the store
<sophiag>
oh, you mean it will look in the filesystem before looking on mirror just not on other volumes?
<tilpner>
I don't know "for sure", especially if you have some funky LVM/LUKS stuff going on
<sophiag>
no, not really
<sophiag>
it's pretty straightforward
<sophiag>
i'll give it a try rn
<tilpner>
Good luck
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<sophiag>
ok so regardless of whether the contents of the live cd are on the boot disk or not, nix-env still immediately goes to curl
<sophiag>
given that, i'd be fine formatting the disk and reinstalling...i'd just like to know i get the config right this time :/
<sophiag>
i certainly would at least ad gnome as well as kde while i have internet access in case that gives me a way to get online
<sophiag>
tilpner: can you possibly paste exactly how you have the network manager in your config in case that's my issue?
<tilpner>
Sure, pm in a second
<sophiag>
thanks
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<Ralith>
sophiag: networking.wireless is not intended to be enabled simultaneously to networking.networkmanager, and you probably want the latter
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<Ralith>
and you almost certainly do have a dhcp client installed regardless
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<sophiag>
oh, thanks. i'm getting a conflicting definitions error from it anyway now so good to know
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<aklt>
Hi all, I have an issue: When starting urxvt or xterm there is a waiting time of seconds polling the X11 socket. I have tried to look into this, bbut I have not been able to find the reason. Has anyone experienced a similar issue?
<layus_>
anyone ever tried to install z3 (program prover), boogie (meta progra prover) or dafny (proff aware programming language) ? All by microsoft research
<layus_>
The last commit has comments from obadz. Did I PR at some point ?
<layus_>
apparently no.
<layus_>
taktoa, thanks for the link, I will try to merge your ideas with my config. I am no dotnet guru yet :-(
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<taktoa>
layus_: me neither
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDGzb
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 201a0fe Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.ansible_2_1: use jinja2 2.8.1
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 8b3db9a Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.ansible_2_2: use jinja2 2.8.1
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[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDGgS
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 1652a13 Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.cytoolz: disable failing test
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDGgd
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0772e27 Domen Kožar: haskell.lib.buildStackProject: fix #22386
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[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vDG2C
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 74f24c7 3noch: Add callCabal2nix to haskell packages...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar closed pull request #22379: hackage2nix: remove swagger2 from the list of broken packages (master...swagger2-patch2) https://git.io/vD3Xj
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<ikwildrpepper>
nhooyr: I don't think that is a feature of nixops really
<ikwildrpepper>
nhooyr: it really depends on your application, software and config if that is possible or not
<ikwildrpepper>
also depends on the changes you are deploying
<nhooyr>
ok, I have a more specific question then. If I update some package for a service, will nixops do `systemctl restart` or `systemctl stop` and then `systemctl start` to start it?
<nhooyr>
because if it does `systemctl restart`, then I can add zero downtime restarts myself.
<ikwildrpepper>
depends on the service
<ikwildrpepper>
most will likely do a stop and start
<ikwildrpepper>
but it is really dependent on how the service is implemented
<nhooyr>
let's say it's nginx
<nhooyr>
and I changed the configuration file
<ikwildrpepper>
note that nixops doesn't really do anything other than calling the nixos activation
<ikwildrpepper>
so technically, nixops has no influence theree
<nhooyr>
what do you mean nixos activation?
<nhooyr>
nixos-rebuild switch?
<ikwildrpepper>
yeah, similar to a switch
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<manveru>
that'd be a nice feature :)
<manveru>
i think right now you can only get zero downtime with a load balancer in front of 2-3 machines...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vDGDw
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging e7c968f Vladimír Čunát: linuxPackages*.perf: fix build with default gcc...
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<manveru>
well, or 2-3 containers
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<viric>
nix-shell -p x -p y -p z does not give me gcc
<Dezgeg>
I think gcc got out of 'nix-shell -p' after stdenvNoCC
<manveru>
you might have to change the nginx unit to support reload
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<viric>
Dezgeg: ahh. is this desired? niksnut
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<gchristensen>
manveru, nhooyr: I'd recommend accomplishing ZDD by having multiple machines as even reloadIfChanged won't help you in the case of a replaced nginx binay.
<LnL>
viric: you can use nix-shell -A stdenv
<manveru>
well, that's what i said before :)
<nhooyr>
ok gotcha
<manveru>
also hardware can fail ;)
<viric>
LnL: I thought I tried this, the first
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<viric>
LnL: right, doesn't work
<viric>
LnL: there should be a stdenv = stdenvNoCC or so, for what Dezgeg says
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<LnL>
viric: nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' --pure -A stdenv --run 'gcc -v'
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<LnL>
work fine
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<viric>
LnL: I said -p
<viric>
not -A
<LnL>
either -p gcc or -A stdenv
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDGSx
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 9eb540b Nikolay Amiantov: qemu-vm module: fix boot.tmpOnTmpfs...
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] edwtjo pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDG9O
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master fd005d0 Josef Kemetmueller: catch: use upstream install target
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[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 9 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDG96
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 4101f1f Michael Raskin: iptables: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master d6710e3 Michael Raskin: shadow: 4.2.1 -> 4.4
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 426dddd Michael Raskin: harfbuzz: 1.4.1 -> 1.4.2
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDG97
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 47127e6 Michael Raskin: libreoffice-fresh: 5.2.4.2 -> 5.3.0.3
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vDG9h
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 cb448f1 Michael Raskin: shadow: 4.2.1 -> 4.4...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 11d120f Michael Raskin: xorg.libXpm: 3.5.11 -> 3.5.12...
<gchristensen>
whoa buddy Firefox 53 is the last FF where Rust is optional
<gchristensen>
I wonder how we're doing on that front
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[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDG7U
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master d66fa9a Graham Christensen: tigervnc: 1.7.0 -> 1.7.1 for CVE-2017-5581
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] teh opened pull request #22402: joblib: Fix tests in python3.5 (master...master) https://git.io/vDGFx
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<pierron_>
gchristensen: There is a disable-rust flag, but the rust compiler that is packaged in the latest NixOS is enough to compile nightly builds of Firefox locally
<pierron_>
gchristensen: one side-effect, it that we might have to follow the 6 weeks cucle of rustc if we want to upgrade firefox.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[hydra] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDGAP
<NixOS_GitHub>
hydra/master a366f36 Eelco Dolstra: Use latest nixUnstable
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[nixpkgs] cpages opened pull request #22404: jsoncpp: update and drop old version (master...jsoncpp) https://git.io/vDGp9
<ttuegel>
Where is the documentation for producing a signed .nar file with 'nix-store --export'? It's not mentioned in the 'man' page, and 'nix-store --import' refuses to import because of missing signatures.
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<gchristensen>
pierron_: after 53 though it will not be optional... makes sense. exciting :)
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<LnL>
ttuegel: do you have signed-binary-caches in your nix.conf, maybe --import also looks at that
<ttuegel>
LnL: I do. I realize I could turn it off, but I was hoping 'nix-store' could produce a signed nar for me :-\
<LnL>
I know you can with nix-push, but not sure about export
<LnL>
importing as root might also help
<ttuegel>
LnL: root does not help, although you do need to be root to pass --options to nix-store.
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<ttuegel>
But being root does not automatically disable security features. :)
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<ttuegel>
The reason I want the signed nar is I've started carrying a backup of my current system closure on my phone and I would *prefer* to be able to verify that it hasn't been tampered with, e.g. going through Customs.
<ttuegel>
In day to day usage, I accept this is totally unnecessary :)
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<gchristensen>
I think you want nix-push
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<ttuegel>
gchristensen: That would give me a directory full of nars, which is not quite what I want. But, I see that nix-push is using nix-store --dump, so I can probably figure out how to sign from the source. Thanks! :)
<gchristensen>
great :) good luck{!
<LnL>
has anybody messed around with setuid wrappers?
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* ttuegel
appreciates that nobody here bats an eye at his paranoia and inflated sense of importance.
<gchristensen>
ttuegel: I'm freaked out, too.
<gchristensen>
and I appreciate that nix-store has the --check options
<gchristensen>
and --verify-contents
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[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vDZvP
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 2ba076e Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging...
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<niksnut>
the signed .nar stuff in nix-store --export has been removed in nix 1.12 btw
<ttuegel>
niksnut: So 'nix-store --export' cannot produce a signed nar? I'm using nixUnstable.
<niksnut>
right
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] edanaher opened pull request #22405: Add vim plugins (master...add-vim-plugins) https://git.io/vDZvb
<ttuegel>
niksnut: OK, so why does 'nix-store --import' reject unsigned nars?
<niksnut>
what's the error message?
<niksnut>
oh, note that I just updated nixUnstable, maybe yours still has it :-)
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<ttuegel>
niksnut: That could be it. I'm not at that machine currently. I'll check again and file an issue if it's still a problem. Thanks! :)
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[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDZJ8
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 55e85a1 Benjamin Smith: opera: 41.0.2353.56 -> 42.0.2393.517
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master f7577b8 Joachim F: Merge pull request #22391 from polynomial/opera...
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[nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZJS
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b02799a Nikolay Amiantov: qtcreator: 4.2.0 -> 4.2.1
<Unode>
Are permission changes on files in the /nix/store considered "corrupted store"?
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<Dezgeg>
probably
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<the-kenny>
What are you trying to accomplish?
<pierron_>
.w 99
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar opened pull request #22406: Qt 5: Use buildEnv for env, don't use it for packages (master...qtenv) https://git.io/vDZt2
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<pierron_>
Profpatsch: we have a way to deprecate options in NixOS.
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<yorick>
my python wheels don't build: ValueError: ZIP does not support timestamps before 1980
<yorick>
that's not good
<LnL>
yorick: SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH = "315542800";
<LnL>
does anybody know why the setuid wrappers don't use store paths
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<viric>
LnL: the store does not allow setuid files
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<LnL>
I mean the .real copy, that doesn't have special permissions
<drakonis>
a important question regarding python packages
<drakonis>
how come it isn't like haskell's packages where it can be updated en masse?
<simpson>
drakonis: The Python package infrastructure doesn't quite publish all the information we need, IIRC. fridh would know more.
<drakonis>
ah, shame
<drakonis>
there's a package with dualshock 4 drivers i'd like to install but its outdated, oh well, time to update it :v
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<cmercier>
Hello everyone, I'm an engineer in a french bioinformatics team, and we would like to try to create nix packages with our programs. I created our new package in a new branch and pushed it on our forked nixpkgs github repository, but I'm not sure what to do now ; should I simply make a pull request?
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<viric>
LnL: it would just be another dereferencing
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<LnL>
what do you mean?
<drakonis>
hm
<goibhniu>
hi cmercier, yep, open a pull request for review
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] ttuegel closed pull request #22406: Qt 5: Use buildEnv for env, don't use it for packages (master...qtenv) https://git.io/vDZt2
<jophish>
Is there a way to get nix-build to wait until build users are free?
<jophish>
Talking about this: error: all build users are currently in use; consider creating additional users and adding them to the ‘nixbld’ group
<Profpatsch>
pierron_: Where?
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<clever>
eacameron: what name does git go by in nix-env -q
<clever>
ah yeah, git-minimal
<clever>
the nix-env tool needs some work, -e only goes by name, but -iA can take attrpath
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[nixpkgs] cpages pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZlV
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 500d48f Carles Pagès: minetest: use system jsoncpp...
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<LnL>
clever: do you have any idea if it's possible to make that systemd runner use the correct uid for the command?
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<clever>
LnL: *looks*
<LnL>
clever: some things chone in pre start but don't want to run as root
<clever>
LnL: ah, it currently doesnt support dropping root, so only services that can drop on their own will work
<LnL>
chown
<clever>
that will need a PR to the perl script
<Unode>
clever: nox kinda works as replacement but a primitive one at the moment
<clever>
Unode: nox has uninstall options?
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<Unode>
not sure
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<LnL>
clever: I don't have pam in my container (just /etc/passwd) at the moment so su doesn't work
<clever>
LnL: ah, if you just reference ${pkgs.su}/bin/su in one of the nix strings, it will automaticaly get su, oh, but that one wont be setuid
<clever>
hmmm, since its dropping from root, it probably wont need setuid
<LnL>
yeah I was hoping that
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<treniii>
I can't scan without using sudo. I'm using sane and I am on the scanner group, but strace shows EACCES for some thing in /dev/bus/usb which is owned by root and the lp group
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<clever>
treniii: then you probably want to also be in the lp group
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[nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDZB0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 1426779 Nikolay Amiantov: portmap: remove...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 314f187 Nikolay Amiantov: rpcbind: 0.2.3 -> 0.2.4...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 876a6d7 Nikolay Amiantov: rpcbind service: use upstream systemd unit
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<servilio>
hi all! what would be a way to tell if a derivation is included in a closure of another derivation?
<treniii>
clever: guess that's the obvious answer. The hardware.sane.enable description should be fixed too then?
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<clever>
treniii: i think the deeper issue, is that your scanner is owned by a printer group
<clever>
treniii: but the correct group will depend on if its a printer,scanner, or both
<clever>
ah, then lp is the right group for that device, but linux cant put 2 groups on the same device
<gchristensen>
servilio: nixos already does this
<servilio>
gchristensen: how? you mean the restarting of services?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<servilio>
needrestart can also work on the user session, telling what needs to be restarted
<gchristensen>
because when a library is updated, it results in a whole new executable for whatever service depended upon it, which creates a whole new systemd service file, which nixos sees and triggers a stop of the old and a start of the new one
<servilio>
I want that
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<servilio>
I want to able to tell what executables I need to restart in my desktop session would the system configuration change
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] adnelson opened pull request #22410: upstart: wrap binaries and patch hard-coded paths (master...upstart_improvements) https://git.io/vDZR7
<clever>
servilio: for things in $PATH thats easy, just compare /proc/$PID/exe to "which $(basename $(readlink /proc/$PID/exe))"
<clever>
servilio: but if you go a level deeper, it gets much more complex
<gchristensen>
user services are very poorly supported
<abbradar>
at least they work as should for dbus and dbus-activated services
<abbradar>
but <abbradar> :) I think it happens like this: Nix wants .lib output for .out, it
<abbradar>
doesn't know how to build .lib, tries .out, tries .lib, repeat
<abbradar>
until [20:24]
<abbradar>
<abbradar> it doesn't seem to eat more memory with time though
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZug
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master eb0eed4 Tuomas Tynkkynen: jenkins-job-builder: 1.4.0 -> 1.6.1
<abbradar>
<clever> but the binary cache must have the .lib in that case
<abbradar>
<abbradar> clever: yep, but I suppose that for some reason it has been lost
<abbradar>
<clever> its invalid for the binary cache to only have half of it
<abbradar>
<abbradar> failure with uploading
<abbradar>
<abbradar> something like that
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<abbradar>
<gchristensen> it seems to me the nix should handle the cache being more
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<gchristensen>
poor abbradar :/
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<gchristensen>
abbradar: are you doing okay?
<abbradar>
sorry all, I've accidentially copied entire emacs buffer to IRC :D
<abbradar>
figured out it'd be better to disconnect before everything would be sent
<gchristensen>
:)
<abbradar>
(first disconnect was of bad network)
<Unode>
Dezgeg, the-kenny Using nix on a non-nixos system. Some permissions got messed up. I'm trying to nix-store --repair ... and it's taking its time so I just wanted to make sure it's doing the right thing
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<Unode>
should also say it's a custom directory so ...
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<abbradar>
interesting, nix-store --realize fails properly on "don't know how to build these paths"
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDZgB
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0c31286 Joachim Fasting: grsecurity docs: some polish...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0911d74 Joachim Fasting: os-prober: 1.71 -> 1.73...
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[nixpkgs] rardiol opened pull request #22411: sane service: mention the lp group for printer+scanners (master...sane) https://git.io/vDZ2n
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar closed pull request #22411: sane service: mention the lp group for printer+scanners (master...sane) https://git.io/vDZ2n
<abbradar>
argh, while I was trying to debug this cache got fixed D:
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 7d00b5f Ollie Charles: muchsync: init at 2
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<gchristensen>
nix is cool b/c I can develop an expression, and as long as I don't need to fetch new things, I'm guaranteed to be able to build it on an airplane.
<abbradar>
that's if you don't accidentially run collect-garbage (which I did) :D
<gchristensen>
hehe
<LnL>
yeah, you can nix-push all the source tarballs to a cache so you reproduce everything without an internet connection
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] abbradar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZwq
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ede8adc Nikolay Amiantov: tcp_wrappers: 7.6.q -> 7.6.q-26...
<jophish>
How many flights are long enough to rebuild chromium on a laptop?
<gchristensen>
jophish: I think you need to be flying NYC to Melbourne for that one
<gchristensen>
but related, I'm a bit concerned about taking my hardware encryption token with me to the airport, and somewhat, my computer in general. is this paranoia? I can’t tell.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin force-pushed openssl-1.1 from 5082ced to 0089f72: https://git.io/vDOWO
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 3e2b2ac Robin Gloster: openssl: default to openssl_1_1_0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 71f37ba Robin Gloster: socat: 1.7.3.1 -> 1.7.3.2...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/openssl-1.1 b6514c6 Robin Gloster: afflib: 3.7.6 -> 3.7.15
<jophish>
gchristensen: post the key separately?
<abbradar>
gchristensen: I think in some countries they may force you to decrypt a laptop... but my memory is foggy and I can't remember if it's true and where
<abbradar>
(I think you also'll have an option to dump the laptop in the trash bin)
<clever>
jophish: my battery wouldnt last long enough to build chromium,lol
<abbradar>
gchristensen: I don't see anything about decryption keys there
<abbradar>
they can seize a laptop and "inspect" it for several days, but worst they can do IIUC is deny you entry if you refuse to decrypt
<abbradar>
However, I'm not sure if they can seize your hardware key
<abbradar>
IANAL
<gchristensen>
yeah
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<sophiag>
hi. i'm new to nix and am having some minor troubles with gnome, which i hear are not uncommon? several things, but for starters i don't have gui versions of any of the packages i installed via ~/.nixkpgs/config.nix rather than /etc/nixos/configurations.nix (mainly the non-free ones). do i need to rebuild to see them appear?
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<sophiag>
i also don't seem to be able to install gnome extensions
<clever>
sophiag: nixos-rebuild will only ever use the things referenced in configuration.nix, so it wont be affected by ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix
<clever>
sophiag: but you can do nixpkgs config for nixos, by setting nixpkgs.config in configuration.nix
<sophiag>
that makes sense. i was just guessing since i have gui versions of the ones in configuration.nix but not the ones in nixpkgs.nix
<sophiag>
*nixpkgs.config
<sophiag>
also is there a preferred way of declaring them? i.e. should i ideally declare everything in nixpkgs and then just add that to configurations?
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<clever>
sophiag: i do like the idea of just putting EVERYTHING into configuration.nix, so i can recreate or update the system with a single command, but sometimes i want to just install 1 thing without waiting for the entire os to update, so i do that via nix-env
<sophiag>
but don't non-free packages need to be in nixpkgs.config?
<clever>
you can set nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree = true;
<clever>
the entire nixpkgs.config tree works exactly the same as the config.nix file
<sophiag>
i did, but they weren't available until i also set it in nixpkgs.config...
<clever>
config.nix is only read by nix-env and nix-build
<clever>
nixos-rebuild will never read config.nix
<clever>
but you can set the exact same values under nixpkgs.config = { ... }; of configuration.nix, for the same effect
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZ6m
<sophiag>
ah, ok. so just to be clear. if i set Unfree = true in configuration then it won't let me install them using nix-env, but i *can* just add them to the pkgs list?
<clever>
yeah
<sophiag>
ok, cool. that sounds like a better route going forward
<clever>
you are also free to set allowUnfree = true; in 3 places (configuration.nix, /root/.nixpkgs/config.nix, /home/sophiag/.nixpkgs/config.nix)
<clever>
then no tool will ever refuse again
<sophiag>
but do you know if that will solve my issue with gui versions in gnome?
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<clever>
some things in nixpkgs are patched to look for plugins in /run/current-system/sw, which can only be managed via systemPackages in configuration.nix
<clever>
so some stuff only works right when installed system wide
<sophiag>
oh, do you mean like oraclejdk where i had to sign the license, install, and then add to pkgs?
<clever>
yeah
<sophiag>
that's fine. i'm just trying to understand why i have a gnome icon for firefox i can add to favorites and not for chrome, for example. and seems likely because i installed chrome via nixpkgs.config and haven't rebuilt since then
<ocharles>
abbradar: deny entry probably means "forever", mind you
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<sophiag>
so basically that and why i can't install gnome3 extensions are what i'm trying to figure out before rebuilding
<abbradar>
ocharles: ouch, perhaps so
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDZis
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] makefu opened pull request #22412: exfat-nofuse: init at 2017-01-03 (master...exfat-nofuse) https://git.io/vDZib
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<sophiag>
clever: the only thing i think i have left to figure out unrelated to gnome is grub efi. i had to comment it out of my configurations because i couldn't figure out the correct mount point and now i have no way to access bios (this laptop originally had uefi and i'd like to change some things)
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #22329: minikube: pull kubernetes into PATH and 0.15.0 -> 0.16.0 (master...f/minikube) https://git.io/vDqaf
<clever>
sophiag: ive had it work by not even setting the efi mount point, as long as /boot was a fat filesystem
<sophiag>
oh? mine is ext4 tho
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<sophiag>
i think i tried enabling efi and leaving out the mount point and install failed, but memory might be failing me
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<makefu>
/grep lassulus
<makefu>
wupps :)
<endformationage>
I'm packaging an application which relies on read write permsisions on files it copies out of the nix store, but the mode it copies over is obviously read only. Is there a standard way to deal with this?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZXx
<LnL>
is there some way to access a module option without the apply function
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<jabb>
heyo
<jabb>
currently i'm trying to build something with a new gcc version and it's trying to use an old linker
<jabb>
/usr/bin/ld
<jabb>
instead of .nix_profile/bin/ld
<LnL>
are you on nixos?
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<LnL>
it shouldn't be trying to use /usr/bin stuff
<jabb>
I'M USING NIX-ENV
<jabb>
sorry caps
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<sophiag>
oh, this is maybe a silly question, but do rebuilds preserve things like window manager settings? i'd assume yes
<simpson>
sophiag: Your homedir isn't affected.
<jabb>
binutils ahas ld
<jabb>
but it's in conflict with gcc for some reaosn
<jabb>
or doesn't install ld
<sophiag>
simpson: thanks
<Ralith>
sophiag: did you get your networking sorted out?
<LnL>
jabb: it's trying to use the system version instead of the one from nix
<jabb>
LnL, .nix_profile/bin doesn't contain ld
<LnL>
using the sandbox might help
<LnL>
no it doesn't have to
<sophiag>
Ralith: yes! had to reinstall, but it was very easy once i figured out what was screwing up my initial installations. just dealing with the finer points now (mainly gnome stuff). plus haven't set up my emacs packages yet, which i'm really psyched about the nix approach to
<Ralith>
can confirm, nixy emacs is the best
<jabb>
LnL: , how would it use nix ld then if it doesn't exist?
<c74d>
jabb: it should be somewhere in the Nix store
<c74d>
which is usually at /nix/store
<LnL>
jabb: it exists, just not in your user profile
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<jabb>
LnL, okay, it does
<sophiag>
Ralith: do you use gnome? looking for someone who can answer a few questions regarding issues i'm having with that
<jabb>
how do i have it use that ld?
<jabb>
and not /usr/bin /ld
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<LnL>
if you set that the build will run inside of a sanbox and won't find /usr/bin/ld
<jabb>
LnL: thanks
<jabb>
where is this file located?
<servilio>
clever: thanks for the input!
<LnL>
jabb: it's /etc/nix/nix.conf
<servilio>
clever: the problem is I need to do it assuming the current path is different from the processes I am inspecting...
<yorick>
sometimes I generate pythonPackages as side-effects of things I do, that probably could be in python-packages
<yorick>
should I contribute them in or something?
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<clever>
servilio: you can also inspect the environment of any process, /proc/self/environ is a \0 seperated list of key=value pairs
<servilio>
clever: hence I need to be able to tell if a derivation is contained by a closure of another derviation
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDZDo
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b7bbe2c Robin Gloster: pythonPackages.requests-mock: 0.6.0 -> 1.3.0
<clever>
servilio: and look into nix-store --query --tree
<servilio>
clever: ohh, thanks for the information bit
<dmj`>
which package is `ar` in?
<servilio>
clever: will look into that first, seems more promising
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<yorick>
dmj`: binutils
<jabb>
LnL: thanks, is there a way to make sure the flag is set
<dmj`>
yorick: <3 u
<jabb>
/etc/nix didn't exist so i had toc reate it
<servilio>
clever: nix-store --query --roots is the one
<servilio>
clever: thanks a lot!
<clever>
yep
<yorick>
when do things get into python-packages?
<avn>
Btw, how sana would be to move /etc/nixos -> /nix/etc? ;)
<LnL>
avn: you can set nixos-config in your NIX_PATH
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<Ralith>
sophiag: no, I don't use a DE
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<jabb>
wwait, is there a way to invoke a command within the enviroment?
<jabb>
i've just been running make
<jabb>
nix-env --run make
<jabb>
?
<avn>
LnL: yes, I know, I doubting if moving it out of /etc (and make it pure generated) will be good idea or not
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<clever>
jabb: nix-shell -p make --run make
<jabb>
error: undefined variable ‘make’ at (string):1:66
<ToxicFrog>
It's "gnumake"
<ToxicFrog>
(per `command-not-found make`)
<LnL>
avn: and the daemon uses nix.nixPath by default
<jabb>
nix-shell -p gnumake --run make --option build-use-sandbox true
<jabb>
still uses /usr/bin/ld
<LnL>
huh
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<LnL>
jabb: nix-shell --pure ...
<jabb>
can't find g++
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<sophiag>
Ralith: ah ok, thanks. it seems most people on nix don't and i likely will switch to xterm + xmonad at some point, but currently just want to replicate my debian setup so i can get back to actually coding
<pikajude>
jabb: add stdenv.cc
<pikajude>
to the inputs
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<jabb>
in the shell command?
<pikajude>
nix-shell --pure -p gnumake stdenv.cc
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<jabb>
pikajude: getting closer :)
<jabb>
now just have missing links, regex and ncursesw
<jabb>
boost_regex
<jabb>
i have boost installed using nix-env and ncurses
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<LnL>
you still have to add those with -p
<jabb>
yessssss
<jabb>
ty so much
<jabb>
that's a mouthfull
<LnL>
you generally don't install development dependencies like that in you user profile
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<c74d>
Can one pin a NixOS QEMU VM to a specific system generation, without pinning the host system to that generation?
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<cransom>
c74d: i'm unsure about a specific generation that has already existed, but you could always duplicate the configuration.nix, use it for nixos-config, and then nixos-rebuild build-vm
<c74d>
mm, it's a version of nixpkgs I want to pin, rather than a version of my configuration
<cransom>
still yes. you can have a local git checkout with nixpkgs=path/to/whereever or nixpkgs=https://url/the/channel
<Tsutsukakushi>
.b 229
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #22415: liberation-fonts: init at 1.07.4 (master...liberation_ttf_v1) https://git.io/vDZNw
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<benzrf>
hey, so i was frustrated with figuring out how to override some stuff, and as a stopgap solution i edited my copy of nixpkgs directly
<benzrf>
then i realized it's part of the store
<benzrf>
what effect will that have? can i easily revert it?
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<eacameron>
What paths are permanently added to the nix store when I open nix-shell for some project?
<eacameron>
I'm trying to determine if I'm polluting my nix store
<benzrf>
eacameron: you mean, stuff that doesnt get removed by GC?
<simpson>
benzrf: Oh, you edited the file directly in the store? I mean, you *could* remove it from the store and then reinstantiate it, but that might not work depending on how it's referenced by the rest of your system.
<eacameron>
benzrf: Hmm...I sort of assume that anything needed by nix-shell *alone* would get GC'ed. I'm more concerned with leaving around thousands of versions of my source code that are all 99% identical. Doesn't nix-shell skip adding some paths to the store?
<simpson>
benzrf: Normally it's a little hard to edit the store directly though. I guess you're not on NixOS?
<benzrf>
simpson: i had to use :w!
<benzrf>
>.>
<simpson>
eacameron: You could always enable hard linking. It's generally safe and massively improves the store's footprint.
<eacameron>
simpson: So nix-shell adds everything to the store?
<simpson>
eacameron: It doesn't add the current directory to the store unless you try to instantiate something based on the current directory.
<gchristensen>
Tsutsukakushi: what is the ".b 229"? I've seen that twice now
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<Tsutsukakushi>
>.<
<eacameron>
simpson: "Current directory"? Why would it ever add that anyway?
<Tsutsukakushi>
gchristensen: it's me failing horribly at changing buffer
<gchristensen>
Tsutsukakushi: not necessarily from you, but from other people
<gchristensen>
oh hrm hehe ok
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jagajaga pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vDZp8
<eacameron>
benzrf: Yah I'm guessing that's nothing more than just a normal package in the eyes of nix-store
<eacameron>
you could not delete it but move it in case I'm wrong ;P
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<aminechikhaoui>
Hi, is there a way to append to a list based nix option defined somewhere else while overriding it..something like a recursive definition foo = lib.mkOverride 10 (foo ++ [ bar ]); ?
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<gchristensen>
fpletz: do you know where to find SUSE's package patches?
<MichaelRaskin>
I mean, I just search for tigervnc, get a list of packages, then I just look at the top5
<gchristensen>
I guess my point is that you're clearly more comfortable navigating this than I am
<MichaelRaskin>
42.2 has the same updates
<MichaelRaskin>
(for this patchset)
<MichaelRaskin>
What is there to navigate?
<MichaelRaskin>
I mean, I have posted #2 #3 #5 results from search
<MichaelRaskin>
It's not even gforge.
<gchristensen>
heh
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<MichaelRaskin>
I think some of the INRIA installations of GForge are straightforward but annoying because the links are even more random than at SourceForge.net
<gchristensen>
INRIA?
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<MichaelRaskin>
French CS/Applied-CS research structure. Their research labs across France maintain Coq prover, OCaml etc
<gchristensen>
gotcha
<sophiag>
noob question: where do i put my emacs.nix?
<sophiag>
oh, and while i'm asking...is this the correct way to enable adding gnome extensions? services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.sessionPath.apply = list: list ++ [ gnome3.gnome_shell gnome3.gnome-shell-extensions ];
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<gchristensen>
....
<gchristensen>
sophiag: that was to gforge's silliness :)
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: stop making me feel old, I am not yet 30.
<MichaelRaskin>
I haven't even seen 8.25'' floppies
<gchristensen>
for not using gforge?
<MichaelRaskin>
For never having seen a download service where index is everything and filename is just aesthetics
<gchristensen>
oh, haha, no no... I have. I was just naive enough to hope it wasn't common anymore.
<sophiag>
gchristensen: i didn't think it was directed at me :)
<MichaelRaskin>
sophiag: I would start by trying services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.sessionPath = [whatever-extensions]
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: not knowing what INRIA is is also surprising to me
<sophiag>
MichaelRaskin: that makes sense. i was mainly just trying to address the fact that i can't install them the old-fashioned way currently :/
<MichaelRaskin>
I use neither Gnome nor mainline NixOS, so my words are more inference that experimental knowledge
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<gchristensen>
MichaelRaskin: I don't think I've had occasion to know about them, really, I don't use any of their projects I don't think.
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<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: given the scale of the task you try to spearhead, I didn't expect to be able to surprise you with completely mundane tales like GForge or to outsearch you with a noticeable margin. Maybe it's for the better, you haven't yet come to the conclusion that the only way to fix software is napalm, we need such optimistic people.
<sophiag>
MichaelRaskin: yeah, not finding many gnome users here to ask
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<gchristensen>
haha
<gchristensen>
my task takes very little more than brute force and time, I'm nobody special, other than I'm fairly good at being consistent
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, sometimes you do need to evaluate the situation which requires some wide perspective
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<gchristensen>
fair enough
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<MichaelRaskin>
Like with openjpeg…
<gchristensen>
*sigh* openjpeg
<clever>
LnL: i'll look into the perl runner script some more when i get a chance
<clever>
LnL: it should be as simple as calling setgroups, setgid, and setuid
<gchristensen>
perl scripts can't be setuid by default
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<LnL>
I want root -> user
<LnL>
or does that not work either
<gchristensen>
well root can always drop privs
<gchristensen>
ok back soon.
<clever>
LnL: since it already has root when you start it, there is no need for setuid
<maurer>
Fun note about inria links by the way - if you change the version number naively, this will only change the filename of the download
<MichaelRaskin>
I wonder if we end up with a single setuid wrapper with metadata appended to the end of the executable
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<MichaelRaskin>
So that it can be shared between runners and setuid-wrappers
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<c74d>
Is there a proper way to diff NixOS generations?
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<contrapumpkin>
c74d: not very nicely today
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] edanaher opened pull request #22417: neovim-remote: move from python-packages to /neovim/neovim-remote. (master...move-neovim-remote) https://git.io/vDnLb
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<sophiag>
ugh, so my rebuild is failing on the gnome extensions... right now i have it like: services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.sessionPath = [ gnome-shell-extensions ... ];
<yorick>
can I easily package things that run 'docker run' at compile time?
<LnL>
clever: ooh, I wasn't following why you where talking about getpwnam because I was using the user's uid/gid directly
<sophiag>
clever: think that did it :)
<clever>
LnL: ah
<clever>
LnL: if you want the aux groups to be initialized correctly, you will still want to properly load /etc/group and setgroups()
<clever>
int initgroups(const char *user, gid_t group);
<clever>
LnL: this looks like the best function for that
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<sophiag>
clever: ugh, now getting an error from my emacs.nix..."anonymous function at /etc/nixos/emacs.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument ‘config’"
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<clever>
sophiag: what is the contents of emacs.nix and how are you loading it?
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<sophiag>
ok, so getting "error: anonymous function at /etc/nixos/emacs.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument ‘config’" and that line is "{ pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:"
<pikajude>
sophiag: is it in your imports
<pikajude>
how are you importing it
<pikajude>
just from the sound of things, nix thinks your emacs.nix is a module file, but it's probably just a regular derivation
<sophiag>
i put it in /etc/nixos so i can just do ./emacs.nix
<pikajude>
what do you mean do
<sophiag>
pikajude: that sounds right from what i'm seeing
<sophiag>
i mean imports = [ ./emacs.nix ];
<pikajude>
and if it's the latter, you get a proper package with pkgs.callPackage /path/to/emacs.nix {}
<pikajude>
and then you can put that in your systemPackages or whatever
<sophiag>
oh i see. i asked earlier about this and someone said i could just import it
<MichaelRaskin>
I wrote (import /path/to/emacs.nix pkgs
<MichaelRaskin>
) — this is Nix import, not NixOS import
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<pikajude>
sophiag: import and imports are very different :(
<sophiag>
i'm quite confused at this point...what do i actually do?
<Ralith>
do "pkgs.callPackage /path/to/emacs.nix {}"
<djames>
on macOS, I have a manually-downloaded version of the Oracle JDK. can I inform the scala package to use it?
<djames>
Currently, running `scala` gives: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: scala/tools/nsc/MainGenericRunner : Unsupported major.minor version 52.0"
<djames>
Strangely, I am able to do a gradle build.
<djames>
But running scala / scalac directly fails. Is there a write-up of what I should expect w.r.t. JDK's?
<sophiag>
Ralith: i get "pkgs.callPackage: command not found"
<Ralith>
it's a nix expression, not a shell command
<Ralith>
put it in systemPackages like pikajude told you to
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<djames>
actually, I would not be surprised if gradle sidesteps using scala directly.
<djames>
anyhow, I would appreciate anyone who could shed some light on what the Nix package story for JDK's is
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<clever>
sophiag: that has to go into the nix file, not the shell
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<sophiag>
clever: lol yeah realized that right after i typed it
<sophiag>
um, but now i'm geting "error: The option `allowUnfree' defined in `/root/.nixpkgs/config.nix' does not exist." which is odd because it was fine using "nix-env -iA all"
<clever>
sophiag: what command gave that error?
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<sophiag>
clever: nixos-rebuild switch
<clever>
sophiag: and how is config.nix being referenced from configuration.nix?
<sophiag>
clever: in import...
<sophiag>
guessing similar issue?
<clever>
sophiag: can you paste that line of code here
<sophiag>
sure
<sophiag>
imports = [ ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix ];
<clever>
sophiag: imports can only be used for other nixos modules, it wont work on config.nix or packages
<clever>
sophiag: you want nixpkgs.config = import /root/.nixpkgs/config.nix;
<sophiag>
ah ok, may have been misinformed or may have misinterpreted
<clever>
sophiag: all import does, is load a given file, and return the top level structure within it
<clever>
sophiag: in this last case, its an attribute set, which you still need to store at the nixpkgs.config key in configuration.nix
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<sophiag>
ok, my problem now is that Synaptics and libinput are incompatible...but i haven't specifically set libinput to true?
<clever>
sophiag: gnome enables libinput automaticaly, you will need to either turn off Synaptics or turn off libinput
<sophiag>
disadvantages to the latter?
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<clever>
i'm guessing gnome has proper support for controlling libinput config with the touchpad
<clever>
so if you turn libinput off, you will have to find some other way to configure the touchpad
<sophiag>
shouldn't synaptics do that? that's the whole reason i added that. i was gifted a gaming laptop with a weird trackpad
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<clever>
services.xserver.libinput.enable = mkDefault true; # for controlling touchpad settings via gnome control center
<clever>
this line implies that libinput does the same thing
<clever>
and that gnome has a GUI for controling it
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<sophiag>
what i mean is i think the synaptics driver does some unique things for this particular one. like recognizing when your palm is resting on it. although to be fair, i stopped noticing that as an issue so much when i installed gnome
<clever>
your free to switch libinput off and synaptics on, reboot, and see what happens
<sophiag>
(and gnome does have a gui for controlling it, but i may switch to xterm + xmonad when i have the time to get used to a new setup)
<clever>
unlike other distros, it will be trivial to switch back at any time
<sophiag>
ha. yeah, must be a "see what happens issue"
<sophiag>
well, i am doing it the same time as a bunch of other changes
<sophiag>
the smart thing would be to leave that as its own rebuild
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<Ralith>
libinput is generally much better
<sophiag>
Ralith: yeah, i'm going to put off even trying synaptics for its own build because its exactly the kind of thing i'd want to roll back
<sophiag>
anyway...next up (sorry for all of this, just a lot getting used to...) i'm getting errors on some fonts that are listed under nixpkgs on github. in addition to the ones on the wiki i added dejavu-fonts and vista-fonts. not sure why these would be an issue?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vDn4k
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 26e5b42 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.45 -> 4.4.46
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vDn4q
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 c7778c2 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.45 -> 4.4.46