<clever> that may be an entirely unrelated drive
<clever> and it was never listing the -drive you gave
<Kendos-Kenlen> Is there any option to use kde with wayland?
<clever> ekleog: i had to include these modules to make not-os boot under qemu
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<pikajude> does nixos have xvidtune
<ekleog> \o/ it works :D
<ekleog> (well, actually, it goes one step further :°)
<ekleog> thanks clever !
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23194: jack2-unstable: 2016-08-18 -> 2017-02-23 (master...jack2unstable) https://git.io/vyTx1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23195: x42-plugins: 20160825 -> 20161230 (master...x42-plugins) https://git.io/vyTxS
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23197: zam-plugins: 3.7 -> 3.8 (master...zam-plugins) https://git.io/vyTx9
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<copumpkin> okay, time to fix some stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykfe
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e798f57 Dan Peebles: make-disk-image.nix: set last fsck time on ext4 images to enable resize-on-startup
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<unlmtd[m]> how do I set the source as current folder in default.nix?
<unlmtd[m]> src = ./.
<unlmtd[m]> that doesnt work
<ndowens08> maybe full path?
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<unlmtd[m]> "variable $src or $srcs should point to the
<unlmtd[m]> source"
<unlmtd[m]> maybe thats another erros
<unlmtd[m]> error
<unlmtd[m]> I cant use full path
<unlmtd[m]> well ill try
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<unlmtd[m]> nope
<ndowens08> darn, :\
<clever> unlmtd[m]: unquoted relative path should work
<unlmtd[m]> ok then my error is elsewhere
<unlmtd[m]> clever thanks
<clever> where did you set that, can you pastebin your nix file?
<unlmtd[m]> ah yea
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<unlmtd[m]> the depsha is made up
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykk3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 59bb3d1 Itai Zukerman: bazel: remove dependence on buildFHSUserEnv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0c3afbd Benjamin Staffin: Merge pull request #23074 from izuk/bazel...
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<unlmtd[m]> so im in the nix-shell now, cargo build works. If I do cargo install, it puts it in my home folder. Can I do a nix-style install from the nix-shell with this rust application?
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<c74d> unlmtd[m]: AFAIK you'll need to write a Nix expression for it, and it shouldn't matter whether you're in a nix-shell or not
<c74d> here's an example of a Nix expression for a Rust program: <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/tools/text/ripgrep/default.nix>
<unlmtd[m]> I thought I could do stuff like ```mkdir -p $out/bin``` in nix-shell, but it's read-only. So i guess it *has* to be a full nix expression that does the work. ```nix-env -f . -i cobalt-rs``` complains about the source not set. So fetchgit is the only way?
<c74d> for a GitLab project I'd use fetchFromGitLab
<unlmtd[m]> then Ill just write an expression in the nixpkgs
<c74d> which should take the same arguments as fetchFromGitHub
<unlmtd[m]> ahh no thats my fork, its on github, but thanks
<unlmtd[m]> ya ill use the original on github
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<unlmtd[m]> " error: attempt to call something which is not a function but a set, at /home/unlmtd/src/nix/nixp
<unlmtd[m]> kgs/lib/customisation.nix:56:12"
<c74d> unlmtd[m]: what's your Nix expression?
<unlmtd[m]> clone of the one you sent me
<unlmtd[m]> not much in there
<unlmtd[m]> gitub sucks
<c74d> unlmtd[m]: you haven't modified the expression? how are you building it?
<unlmtd[m]> one second, im trying to push it
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<tnks> how simple is it to nix-build a Linux binary on a Mac?
<tnks> I figured I'd ask here before poking around.
<tnks> (also, I don't have direct access to a Mac right now)
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<copumpkin> hard
<copumpkin> we've put no effort into cross-compilation from mac; it might work but I doubt it
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<copumpkin> also, not sure if it matters, but the hash will be different from the same thing built on linux natively
<smw_> I should probably ask when more people are around, but has anyone gotten nixos running on a raspberry pi 3? If not, I don't want to go down a rabithole.
<copumpkin> smw_: I think so, not sure about specific configurations, but https://nixos.org/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM#Raspberry_Pi is some older stuff
<copumpkin> viric I think does a lot of ARM stuff
<smw_> yeah, stuff for old RPi is nearly useless for v3.
<copumpkin> oh boo
<smw_> My searching has turned up people saying they can't get 3 to work... but I don't know if that has since been solved.
<smw_> I just ordered an RPi after seeing how well my Dad's RPi works. Before I go installing debian (or worse, raspian), I was hoping I could take a crack at nixos again :-).
<tnks> copumpkin: okay, good to know... hard to motivate going down that path when building within a Docker container works just fine.
<copumpkin> tnks: yeah, that's what I'd recommend
<copumpkin> smw_: most of this channel is in Europe so you might have more luck asking around when most of them are awkae
<copumpkin> but otherwise I don't know much :)
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<unlmtd[m]> I got that far
<pikajude> is crossDrv still a thing?
<pikajude> or is it not a thing anymore
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<unlmtd[m]> ahh fuck, I screwed up the merge conflict in all-packages
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<endformationage> unlmtd[m]: do you by chance develop in rust with vscode?
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<endformationage> OK. Anybody trying to get vscode to inherit a nix-shell env must also export VSCODE_CLI=1
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<tempeh> Hey - how do I use nix-shell for qualified packages like gnome.scrollkeeper? "nix-shell -p gnome.scrollkeeper" gives "error: undefined variable 'gnome'"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gebner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykmH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cc64780 Gabriel Ebner: lean: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23140: hexio: unstable -> 1.0-RC1 (master...hexio) https://git.io/vyf5o
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<clever> gnome2.scrollkeeper
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<yurrriq> What's the best way to derive an alternate package from an existing one, changing only a few properties and maybe some dependencies? Any links or hand-holding would be greatly appreciated.
<pikajude> yurrriq: you could just use overrideDerivation
<yurrriq> Real examples: I want to add an alternate LilyPond package that builds the dev branch. And I want to add an alternate MuseScore for Darwin that uses the published .dmg
<yurrriq> The former just changes a few props and the later needs to add the undmg dependency
<yurrriq> pikajude: Are there any good examples in nixpkgs?
<pikajude> probably about 500
<yurrriq> Ha, I can grep then
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vykOk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 2f726fe Vladimír Čunát: findutils: fixup sandboxed build after #23152
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<yurrriq> Is adding a dependency (maybe the wrong parlance) any trickier?
<pikajude> no
<pikajude> you just add it to buildInputs
<pikajude> or nativeBuildInputs actually when using overrideDerivation because the evaluation order is WRONG
<yurrriq> Aha!
<yurrriq> What's the preferred method for adding a separate platform-specific package?
<yurrriq> There's a MuseScore one for Linux and I want to add one specific to Darwin.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edwtjo pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykOt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1aaf2be Christoph Hrdinka: retroarch: libretro-mednafen-* -> libretro-beetle-*...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a78b801 Edward Tjörnhammar: Merge pull request #23176 from hrdinka/retroarch/mednafen2beetle...
<yurrriq> IIRC there's a similar situation with the jdk so I can look there for guidance.
<yurrriq> Thanks for the tips
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ericsagnes opened pull request #23202: styx and themes: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 (master...pkg-update/styx) https://git.io/vykOn
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vykO4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 6988d2d Tim Steinbach: curl: 7.53.0 -> 7.53.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 39e736b Vladimír Čunát: Merge #23171: curl: 7.53.0 -> 7.53.1
<yurrriq> Another dumb question, is there a built-in function to get, e.g. "2.0.3" from "2.0.3.1" ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bfe1d74 Matthias Beyer: mwic: init at 0.7.2 (#23183)...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vykOX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging f157956 Vladimír Čunát: findutils: add the forgotten file (I'm sorry)...
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<sphalerite> yurrriq: you'll probably want to extend the existing one and use conditionals for platform-specific behaviour
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk38
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f8cb022 Jörg Thalheim: build-support/vm: replace sha256 with sha1
<sphalerite> clever: just realised that the nix store is mounted read-only on the live system I booted via PXE, how can I fix that?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk3B
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c11d5f Jörg Thalheim: dtrx: replace sha1 with sha256
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk3u
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fc2a42b Jörg Thalheim: zsync: replace sha1 with sha256
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master def0c86 Jörg Thalheim: pythonPackages: remove sha1 comment
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7f5cfd3 Jörg Thalheim: samplicator: 1.3.7-beta6 -> 1.3.8rc1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk39
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f4c253f Jörg Thalheim: jfsutils: replace sha1 with sha256
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yurrriq opened pull request #23204: musescore: add darwin-specific package (master...add/pkgs/applications/audio/musescore-darwin) https://git.io/vyk3H
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<viric> I don't know why brotli has so good results here https://quixdb.github.io/squash-benchmark/ Brotli isn't very good in my tests
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<clever> sphalerite: oh yeah, you need to use the nixpkgs from nixos-unstable
<clever> sphalerite: i fixed that bug, but i dont think it hit nixos-16.09
<sphalerite> ah ok
<sphalerite> I could also just cherry-pick the commit onto my checkout, right?
<clever> yeah
<clever> let me see
<sphalerite> cheers
<sphalerite> I tried mounting a new tmpfs, rsyncing the entire nix store in, and then bind-mounting it on /nix/store, but that broke everything for some reason
<sphalerite> as in no external commands were working anymore
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyksG
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d66aec8 Bart Brouns: zam-plugins: 3.7 -> 3.8
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyks8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8bdeca0 Bart Brouns: x42-plugins: 20160825 -> 20161230
<sphalerite> I then tried invoking ls by putting in the full path to it, but No such file or directory. Any idea why the loader would go missing?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyksB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6992824 Bart Brouns: jack2-unstable: 2016-08-18 -> 2017-02-23
<clever> that kind of thing can be hard to debug, because the debug tools are also broken
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vyksz
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9d8ad57 Will Dietz: llvm-4.0: init at rc2 in preparation for release....
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2ebb086 Will Dietz: llvm-4.0/libc++abi: Remove LLVM build dep to unbreak Darwin evaluation.
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 753058b Will Dietz: libc++-4.0rc2: Use substituteInPlace instead of the Darwin patch....
<sphalerite> haha
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #22970: LLVM 4.0 rc2 (master...feature/llvm-4.0-rc2) https://git.io/vD7AP
<sphalerite> yep cherry-picking that fixed it, thanks
<fpletz1> wtf github :(
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<LnL> that's pretty strange
<sphalerite> what's wrong with it?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23189: mpv: disable drmSupport on darwin (master...darwin-mpv) https://git.io/vyTHF
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 78d3a11 Franz Pletz: mpv: 0.23.0 -> 0.24.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a50222b Vladimír Čunát: doc/configuration: tidy up text around #23130 changes
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<spacekitteh> copumpkin: can this be merged or? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20444
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #22973: Fix: Darwin (OSX) doesn't have util-linux (master...fix/e2fsprogs-darwin) https://git.io/vD7jm
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthiasbeyer opened pull request #23205: luakit: remove (master...remove-luakit) https://git.io/vykZY
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6afdc51 Vladimír Čunát: e2fsprogs: style nitpicks, add meta.license
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 488ece8 Vladimír Čunát: e2fsprogs: avoid larger rebuild on Linux...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0b27c74 Tomasz Czyż: pgjwt: init at 0.0.1 (#22644)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #20454: WIP: mesa bleeding edge (master...amdgpu-bleeding-edge) https://git.io/vXDPf
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<viric> Is there any program for pc that can use an offline openstreetmap, as in OsmAnd?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23164: pythonPackages.publicsuffix: 1.0.2 -> 1.1.0 (master...publicsuffix-1.1.0) https://git.io/vyUpl
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykn3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a85b55e Peter Hoeg: microcode-intel: 20160714 -> 20161104
<Mic92> viric: JOSM has an offline mode, but you propably do not look for an editor
<viric> right
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yurrriq opened pull request #23206: lilypond-unstable: init at 2.19.24 (master...add/pkgs/misc/lilypond/unstable) https://git.io/vyknW
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23205: luakit: remove (master...remove-luakit) https://git.io/vykZY
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ericsagnes opened pull request #23207: parsimonious: 0.6.2 -> 0.7.0 (master...pkg-update/parsimonious) https://git.io/vykn1
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<sphalerite> viric: viking seems to be able to do that
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyknN
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 189e7ad Herwig Hochleitner: ja2-stracciatella: init 0.15.1...
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<viric> sphalerite: I'm not sure. I mean look for streets, finding restaurants...
<viric> additional to just tiles
<sphalerite> oh right
<viric> OsmAnd renders on the device with quite small files
<sphalerite> OsmAnd in an android emulator :p
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykcn
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e3f18ec Eric Sagnes: parsimonious: 0.6.2 -> 0.7.0
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<sphalerite> viric: gosmore might also work
<sphalerite> oh, offroad is based on OsmAnd? Nice
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ericsagnes opened pull request #23208: linkchecker: fix darwin build (master...pkg-fix/linkchecker) https://git.io/vykC4
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<pierron> LnL: Now just add a changelog entry and it would be all good for merging. I would prefer if you can make the changelog entry before merging knowing that the fork is soonish
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykCa
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b4d8edd Eric Sagnes: linkchecker: fix darwin build
<pierron> zimbatm: Do you need extra help for writing https://github.com/zimbatm/rfcs/pull/1 ?
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<LnL> pierron: allright, you are referring to the release notes section or is there some other changelog?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23202: styx and themes: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 (master...pkg-update/styx) https://git.io/vykOn
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykWl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9c2ac51 Franz Pletz: youtubeDL: 2017.02.17 -> 2017.02.24.1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyklI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a0cfe05 ndowens: hiawatha: init at 10.5...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #23060: Hiawatha: Init at 10.5 (master...hiawatha) https://git.io/vDxm7
<gchristensen> good morning
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<Mic92> fpletz1: should ericsagnes not be a member of https://github.com/NixOS/ ?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #23209: sonarr: 2.0.0.4472 -> 2.0.0.4613 (master...sonarr_update) https://git.io/vykl3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #23210: nzbget: 17.1 -> 18.0 (master...nzbget_update) https://git.io/vyklx
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23211: supercollider: 3.7.2 -> 3.8.0 (master...supercollider) https://git.io/vyklp
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23209: sonarr: 2.0.0.4472 -> 2.0.0.4613 (master...sonarr_update) https://git.io/vykl3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk8z
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e2c95b4 Jookia: nftables module: Add new module for nftables firewall settings...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #18842: nftables module: Add new module for nftables firewall settings (master...RFC_nftables) https://git.io/vidIj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #23212: emby: 3.1.5 -> 3.2.4 (master...emby_3.2.4) https://git.io/vyk8y
<gchristensen> lol, powertop is reporting my CPU has 7019268433962.48GHz
<Mic92> gchristensen: your pc can travel through time because it is faster then light.
<gchristensen> I rate this computer a Good Buy ther, definitely more than I bargained for
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<roundhouse> hi guys, I'm trying to write a haskell program that uses the sdl2-mixer library. Unfortunately I get "ALSA: Couldn't open audio device: Connection refused" when trying to start the program. I tried both enabling and disabling "sound.enable", i.e. alsa. Any ideas?
<Mic92> *too
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<gchristensen> Mic92: after running powertop's auto-tune, my battery went from 4.5hrs to 10hrs.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk44
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0150d9a Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.11-201702222257 -> 4.9.12-201702231830
<roundhouse> nvm, it works if I remove pulse audio from configuration.nix
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<Mic92> gchristensen: now you broke my git-merge streak, because I am distracted by powertop :)
<LnL> Mic92: yeah, people that are not that familiar with git often struggle with that
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<LnL> rebase/reset and the fact that you have to force push is not exactly the most beginner friendly
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<Mic92> LnL: also most people are not aware of git-reflog and theirfor fear force push.
<gchristensen> at a certain point I'll just do it for them
<joelmo> It is worth the effort to keep the log sane
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 3 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyk4N
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 149028c Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.10-201702152052 -> 4.9.11-201702181444...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 db39fea Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.11-201702181444 -> 201702222257...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 7ed757d Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.11-201702222257 -> 4.9.12-201702231830...
<Mic92> sometimes desctructive if they had upload their master branch.
<gchristensen> Mic92: yeah,but if it is, say, otherwise ready to merge
<gchristensen> the scary thing about powertop is not knowing if it is still working, or if your laptop's black screen is a bad sign.
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<LnL> yeah that's another thing that sometimes happens, and then they end up in a confusing situation when trying to create a second pr
<gchristensen> oh. true.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykBZ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4bb14b2 Bart Brouns: supercollider: 3.7.2 -> 3.8.0
<gchristensen> omg branch-off is tomorrow
<samae> yeeeehaaaa ?
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<gchristensen> you bet
<gchristensen> though I was hoping to get one more service in there :)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23212: emby: 3.1.5 -> 3.2.4 (master...emby_3.2.4) https://git.io/vyk8y
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<FRidh> viric: I think Marble supports offline viewing as well
<gchristensen> FRidh: how did you do that?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 12 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vykRo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 09f6b03 Frederik Rietdijk: Python 2.7: improve determinism...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 8970a9c Frederik Rietdijk: Python 3.5: improve determinism...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging dd3a501 Frederik Rietdijk: Python: mkPythonDerivation: use PYTHONHASHSEED=0
<FRidh> gchristensen: do what?
<gchristensen> FRidh: join and answer viric's question
<FRidh> gchristensen: I was just reading back via botbot.me
<gchristensen> oh, cool :)
<FRidh> I typically have that one open in by browser and read there instead of using a client (which I often forget to start)
<gchristensen> good to know :) I can summon FRidh just by saying his name 3 times, even if he isn't here
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #20498: Python: buildPyPIPackage and buildPyPIApplication (master...buildpypipackage) https://git.io/vXH10
<FRidh> gchristensen: ha, you can try :)
<gchristensen> I wonder if I can implement an mcelog service between now and branch-off
<gchristensen> my new laptop throws mcelog events...
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<FRidh> tried latest kernel/
<FRidh> ?
<pierron> LnL: I referreing to nixos/doc/manual/release-notes/rl-1703.xml
<gchristensen> I think I'm running 4.10, yeah, I can check for sure after this powertop calibration run
<LnL> pierron: yeah I was looking at the wrong manual before :p
<pierron> LnL: that's our only changelog so far.
<pierron> LnL: or I am not aware of any other
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<LnL> I added an entry there
<ben__> What's the process for reporting "i said nix-env -i ... and got a compilation error" kinda issues?
<ben__> do i just dump all the output into a github issue?
<gchristensen> ah, 4.9 FRidh. think 4.10 might help? I suppose I could switch to unstable a day before branch-of...
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<pierron> LnL: ok, minor doc fixes, if you want you can leave the follow-up remarks for future patches.
<pierron> LnL: Sorry for asking you to iterate that many times on these modifications, but I am trying to be as careful as I am when I review Firefox changes.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk0K
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8b40d2e Graham Christensen: mcelog: 144 -> 148
<hodapp> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/22219 I wrote this and it's merged, but can anyone think of ways that I might get this to allow a user to add packages to RStudio without requiring an entire rebuild of RStudio (which is lengthy enough to be annoying)?
<ben__> I can't seem to install obconf, any advice? http://ix.io/nN5 - nixpkgs 17.03pre101839.53a2baa which i believe is current nixos-unstable
<unlmtd[m]1> dont know much abouut the workflow of keeping track of issues like these, should I open an issue in my fork, or open a pull request and comment about the errors?
<ben__> hodapp: does it need to rebuild all of rstudio, not just the wrapper?
<unlmtd[m]1> something about .cargo-index-lock being, well, locked out of reach I guess
<LnL> pierron: no problem, I appreciate the feedback. But perhaps I should improve the documentation in a separate pr so this can be merged before the release branch is created?
<gchristensen> FRidh: I'm building an mcelog service, where would you put that in the nixos modules?
<peterhoeg> gchristensen: you didn't have any problems getting 4.10 up and running?
<gchristensen> peterhoeg: I haven't tried it yet
<peterhoeg> Ah
<hodapp> ben__: the wrapper is changed to modify some environment variable, but what my also inserts some R code into a startup file. This is all past all of the actual compilation for RStudio as it's in installPhase/postInstall.
<hodapp> what my patch*
<gchristensen> peterhoeg: I'm still running the 350 rounds of powertop :|
<peterhoeg> Now THAT sounds like fun.
<hodapp> ugh. grammar. "...my patch also inserts..."
<ben__> hodapp: can you let RStudio install as one derivation, and then have another derivation that takes the output dir of RStudio as its source, copies/symlinks it over to its own output dir and then adds that R code?
<ben__> so not touching RStudio's own phases at all
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<hodapp> ben__: that might be an option if I can figure out how. All it has to do is invoke RStudio in a wrapper with --set R_PROFILE_USER pointed to a script that it generates
<peterhoeg> ben__: do you know of a good, clean implementation of such a wrapper currently in nixpkgs? I have another package I need to give that treatment.
<ben__> peterhoeg: I don't, sorry
<hodapp> dang
<hodapp> I feel sort of like R itself works this way but I'm not sure
<hodapp> see https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#r-packages, for instance. As I understand it, one can install normal R, or one can install this rWrapper which is intended to be overwritten
<hodapp> and this is why my patch allowed one to override RStudio's R package for an R wrapper created as described in the manual (with other R packages bundled with it), but the rest of the patch was because of the idiocy RStudio did which completely negated that wrapper's effect
<peterhoeg> gchristensen: please let me know if you're getting the same message when trying out 4.10:
<peterhoeg> inconsistent kernel versions: 4.10.0
<peterhoeg> 4.9.12
<copumpkin> niksnut_: I see why the service isn't starting up on the EC2 box, but am unsure what to do to fix it
<pierron> LnL: I don't think the documentation is good enough in yet, and I am ok to delay these changes because of the documentation issue
<pierron> LnL: I honestly don't like merging changes with a promess of upcoming documentation, especially since we constantly seems to get complain about the lack of documentation.
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<gchristensen> peterhoeg: what do you mean?
<pierron> Quick vote everybody, should we hold features until they are properly documented?
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<pierron> pierron: hold on doc +1
<gchristensen> I agree with that, nothing like the drive of the merge to get the documentation done
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<ben__> hm, firefox does the thing where they have an "unwrapped" derivation that other derivations build wrappers around
<ben__> doesn't seem very generalized though
<LnL> pierron: yeah it makes sense
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykuW
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ec47fac Bart Brouns: ir.lv2: 1.2.2 -> 1.2.3
<smw_> viric: you around? I have some questions about raspberry pi 3. :-)
<peterhoeg> gchristensen: that's the message when doing "nixos-rebuild boot" unless I revert the 4.10 commit.
<gchristensen> oh wow
<unlmtd[m]1> whats the trick to install rust packages? Feels hard
<unlmtd[m]1> the stuff already written looks simple
<unlmtd[m]1> but it doesnt work for a simple rust package
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<gchristensen> peterhoeg: still powertop tuning :P
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #23214: mcelog: init Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon service (master...mcelog-service) https://git.io/vykuK
<sphalerite> nixos-rebuild boot isn't working for me, all it says is "Died at /nix/store/9g4wc31[...]-builder.pl line 59.
<sphalerite> Any ideas?
<pierron> sphalerite: what does "nixos-rebuild build" do?
<sphalerite> same thing
<sphalerite> ah, just checked the journal. Seems to be a problem with the HDD
<gchristensen> peterhoeg: can you help me with that comment you left?
<peterhoeg> Explanation or code?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gilligan opened pull request #23215: openfortivpn: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 (master...update-openfortivpn) https://git.io/vykzv
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<gchristensen> peterhoeg: code, it seems it needs to access /proc/cpuinfo, its config file in its own store dir, /sys/firmware/dmi/entries/0-0/raw, /dev/mem, /sys/firmware/efi/systab, and /dev/mcelog
<gchristensen> peterhoeg: should I just add that whole list and see where it gets me?
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<peterhoeg> I wil realistically not have time to work on this until later in the week, so if you want it in before the release deadline I'm not your guy. My approach would be simply enable as much as possible and then start removing bits if the daemon doesn't run. Very scientific....
<gchristensen> I guess I'm also not sure why start with this one, unless the answer is "gotta start somewhere"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 3 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vykzE
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 4bc1d02 Frederik Rietdijk: Python 2.7: increase priority...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 1b66b6a Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.pyparsing: 2.1.8 -> 2.1.10
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 57afc0f Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.packaging: 16.7 -> 16.8
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fkz opened pull request #23216: phpfpm: eliminate build at evaluation time (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vykzN
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<gchristensen> peterhoeg: where did you get the kernel error?
<LnL> anybody here familiar with the setuid wrappers? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23217
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<FRidh> Does meta.priority only check order of magnitude?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykgl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6c36d9f Jörg Thalheim: nftables: make default configuration null...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 079353e Frederik Rietdijk: Python 2.7: increase priority - fixup...
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<hyper_ch> hi there, for some reason I can't start virtualbox anymore... but starting individual VMs still works: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/9ec941af
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<gchristensen> peterhoeg: fwiw I'm using the default service definition which comes with mcelog, same as many distros. while I see the value in adding the restrictions, it is not an easy thing to do for a few reasons: I don't want to just take a list of "best practices" and apply them without understanding what they mean (not to mention the service doesn't work with them.), the service can probably operate with more in some
<gchristensen> ways and less in others. I'm also frustrated by the seemingly arbitrary "well let's start with this PR" application of the list, without you being able to help with it.
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<peterhoeg> gchristensen: apologies if I seemed dismissive - that was not the intention. Applying that laundry list of items is something that takes time if upstream hasn't done any of the work.
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<peterhoeg> And really not something one can just do in 5 minutes - that's why I said I only have time later in the week.
<gchristensen> I would like to merge this (to have it in 17.03) and then would love to work with you to lock it down
<gchristensen> perhaps even work on a grander locking down of services
<peterhoeg> There is some discussion on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/14645 regd this.
<gchristensen> I know :)
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<peterhoeg> And it would be a very cool project to take on
<hodapp> peterhoeg: if you ever figure out a good example of a wrapper (like you were asking before), let me know
<peterhoeg> If you haven't tried with PrivateTmp, PrivateNetwork and PrivateUsers, it might be worth a shot just with those. They should not break anything and it's better than nothing.
<gchristensen> what was your problem with the kernel, though? I'm not seeing any kernel version problems.
<peterhoeg> hodapp: sure
<peterhoeg> regd the kernel, I haven't really looked into it - not an awful lot of time this weekend (or this coming week). ```nixos-rebuild boot``` just errors out with the message I mentioned.
<gchristensen> I don't seem to have that problem
<gchristensen> sorry
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vyk2u
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 bda6b18 Frederik Rietdijk: diffoscope: 63 -> 77...
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<peterhoeg> I have a hunch that maybe virtualbox doesn't work properly with 4.10, but I haven't tried. It sounds like a 3rd party kernel module that is blowing up.
<peterhoeg> hodapp: Just FYI, I noticed that kodi has a very straight forward wrapper, but I have not looked into it in detail.
<hodapp> peterhoeg: thanks, I'll take a look
<hodapp> I really should probably look at how R/rWrapper does it
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<gchristensen> obadz: this is still an issue :( https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/19054
<obadz> gchristensen: didn't you revert my commit?
<copumpkin> omg it's obadz
<obadz> :)
<gchristensen> obadz: I did, but only in 16.09 :)
<copumpkin> obadz: my image building rework is stalling! I need halp!
<obadz> gchristensen: cf94cdb59b should make this whole thing moot
<obadz> gchristensen: i.e. I think you can revert from master as well
<gchristensen> obadz: I can revert https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/29caa185a7e4aaa0d621a4f117f3e8f653261fda in master? (just making sure)
<obadz> I'm not sure it's the right thing to do
<obadz> but I'm certain it won't affect me negatively
<obadz> since that was reverted from 16.09
<obadz> and I was on 16.09 up until last week
<obadz> copumpkin: stalling on technical grounds? or niksnut_ not paying enough attention?
<copumpkin> nah, technical grounds, although sort of for an iffy reason
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<obadz> I've seen the comments but haven't had a chance to dive in yet
<gchristensen> obadz: I also don't know :) I just don't want people's WMs to be broken.
<obadz> hmmm
<obadz> let me have a quick look at what other DMs are doing
<obadz> we should sort this out before branch out tomorrow
<gchristensen> sounds great, I'm around to help most of the day )
<gchristensen> :)
<copumpkin> I'm unsure how I want to handle it, basically. Currently, nixos-install (which I need to refactor to avoid duplicating logic with the image build) _builds_ the target system configuration on against the target store, which has the "side effect" of putting build-time dependencies into it. The installer tests try to do an offline nixos-rebuild, which fails on mine but not on theirs, because I build my closure outside of the target store
<copumpkin> (sort of like the --closure argument you added, which would have similar issues)
<copumpkin> obadz: my current inclination is to just amend the installer tests to explicitly ask for the build-time closure on the image, since getting that programmatically appears to be impossible right now
<copumpkin> you can get a vast overapproximation
<ndowens08> I noticed you guys were talking a bit about services running as root, at least seen peterhoeg mention it, though I try to create a seperate user for services I create when I can; but for this one I am currently writing, there is no option in the server to run as a certain user, so is there a way to make it run as it's own user vs root even though there is no built in option?
<copumpkin> but that puts crap that has no business being in the image into it
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<copumpkin> ndowens08: yeah, systemd can run it as anything you ask it to
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<copumpkin> see man systemd.service
<ndowens08> copumpkin: ah, will look at that then :)
<obadz> gchristensen: thruth be told, even if we fix this in master, it's not enough time to test it until stable. let's just revert and kick can down the road
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] obadz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyka9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b6f021 obadz: Revert "lightdm: obbey services.xserver.{window/desktop}Manager.default"...
<gchristensen> obadz: sounds good
<gchristensen> obadz: thank you :)
<obadz> gchristensen: np
<obadz> gchristensen: have you noticed that in the ligthdm screen, you can select a window manager in the top part, and it'll remember which one was selected on a per-user basis??
<peterhoeg> ndowens08: if you don't need persistent data, using DynamicUsers=true would be very good. Then we don't have to pollute the main ids.nix file as well.
<obadz> gchristensen: that's what cf94cdb59b did
<ndowens08> peterhoeg: hmm, if that is ok to do, though this is a webserver, so idk if that could be used?
<ndowens08> since i guess it would be persistent data right
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<obadz> copumpkin: I fail to understand why the build-time deps are relevant at all? just because the tests happen to depend on it and they can't download more stuff?
<peterhoeg> ndowens08: well it depends. If it doesn't need to persist any data, you might be fine. Of course whatever the application is serving would then have to have world-read permissions.
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<copumpkin> obadz: well, sort of
<copumpkin> I could understand actually wanting build-time dependencies (I'd make it a flag of the image builder code)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] johbo opened pull request #23218: mysql57: Add developer_cmds as build input on darwin (master...darwin-mysql) https://git.io/vykVk
<copumpkin> if I want to produce an image that's intended to be reconfigured in a fully offline manner
<FRidh> Could someone trigger a staging build?
<ndowens08> peterhoeg: hmm probably the only thing to change much of course is the dir that has the web data to serve
<copumpkin> FRidh: done
<copumpkin> nixos:staging?
<copumpkin> I'm assuming
<peterhoeg> ndowens08: you can always try it out ;-) I'm signing off from here. Getting rather late.
<obadz> copumpkin: what about adding what you need in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/tests/installer.nix#L204-L224 ?
<ndowens08> peterhoeg: GN
<copumpkin> obadz: yeah that's what I'm going to do to unstall it, but it's an interesting broader question, since it does change the composition of the image somewhat
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<gchristensen> what things should I check before merging a module? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/23214 I've not much experience here.
<Dezgeg> I think breaking the nixos manual build (due to invalid XML) is quite common one to check for
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<gchristensen> looks good from here
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<gchristensen> thanks, Dezgeg
<LnL> gchristensen: I think we should start requesting people to add meta.maintainers
<gchristensen> you can do that? I didn't know that
<LnL> I think only a small number of modules have it at the moment
<LnL> yeah, even less then I expected
<gchristensen> ok, I added myself as a maintainer :) merging. thank you!
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1430506 Graham Christensen: mcelog: init Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon service
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4f3d06d Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #23214 from grahamc/mcelog-service...
<ndowens08> How do you counter the issue when it says value is a string, while expecting a set; trying to set option for configFile location; I have default = "${pkgs.hiawatha}/etc/hiawatha"; as option and in the config area under systemd, the command looks like ExecStart = "${pkgs.hiawatha}/bin/hiawatha -c cfg.configFile";
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<sphalerite> clever: why do you dd zeroes onto the disk before generating the new partition table?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] husnoo opened pull request #23220: copy gatttool for bluez (master...master) https://git.io/vykwL
<bennofs1> Is the output name always appended as -<name of output> to the store path of a multiple output derivation?
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<gchristensen> bennofs1: except for $out I think, yes
<hyper_ch> hi there, for some reason I can't start virtualbox anymore... but starting individual VMs still works: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/9ec941af
<Dezgeg> the hash part is different as well
<gchristensen> ah yes
<bennofs1> hmm, the nixpkgs-unstable channel seems to contain a few storepaths that are literally empty directories
<bennofs1> like /nix/store/zn2f0y3vmyg4cf0lln633zby6423ybyy-go-repo-root-20140911-90041e5-bin
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<BarrOff> hello everyone
<BarrOff> i have a problem compiling nix on freebsd
<BarrOff> the linker always fails in src/libutil/util.cc with: undefined reference to 'environ'
<BarrOff> can someone please help me?
<Dezgeg> maybe it needs to be in an extern "C" { } block
<ndowens08> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dadb79ed421bd65a02905013e1165013 that is my hiawatha module I am writing; I don't understand why it is saying it expecting a set when the default and what the user would put in is a path, not a set
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykrv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1d9fa60 Michael Raskin: wavefunctioncollapse: 0.0pre20160930 -> 0.0pre20170130
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a872e22 Michael Raskin: speed_dreams: 2.0.0-a3 -> 2.2.1
<BarrOff> i allready looked it up in the freebsd handbook how to use "extern char **environ"
<BarrOff> however it doesnt work
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<nautillus> Hi, do you have any problems with Wine on Unstable/master? I am not sure if that is related to X bump to 1.19, but it is very similar to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22760 and wine gives 'libGL error: unable to load driver' too.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykr2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5e937b1 Franz Pletz: gstreamer: 1.10.3 -> 1.10.4 for multiple CVEs...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8a75569 Franz Pletz: linux: 4.10 -> 4.10.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 62857b1 Franz Pletz: linux: 4.4.51 -> 4.4.52
<viric> smw_: rpi3? Dezgeg & clever
<Dezgeg> I use one with aarch64
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<copumpkin> anyone have opinions about systemd behavior in nixos? :) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23221
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<joko> Hello, is anyone using boot.initrd.network.ssh? I have trouble getting an IP address during boot
<bennofs1> copumpkin: shouldn't the service in the EC2 case get activated then as soon as multi-user.target is reached?
<sphalerite> Has anyone here used steamCMD on nixos?
<bennofs1> copumpkin: or is this because the "transaction" starting multi-user.target is still in process, and that transaction isn't changed on daemon-reload?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bennofs pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykot
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8b5e8b3 Benno Fünfstück: mod-distortion: fix package (empty $out before)...
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<copumpkin> bennofs1: I don't really know why it isn't starting. I'd have expected it to get retroactively added to the in-progress multi-user.target startup, but it doesn't
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykoq
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f3a6991 Joachim Fasting: grsecurity: 4.9.12-201702231830 -> 4.9.13-201702261126
<copumpkin> if I explicitly tell it to start multi-user.target from switch-to-configuration.pl, it works again
<copumpkin> so perhaps it needs a nudge?
<bennofs1> copumpkin: well I assume it is because systemd already created the transaction, and after that, doesn't look at the unit files etc again even if you've got a daemon-reload
<copumpkin> sounds plausible... I don't really know how it works though
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 785d303 Benno Fünfstück: sic: fix empty $out...
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<viric> Dezgeg: nixos aarch64?
<Dezgeg> yes
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<Dezgeg> I still need to send some patches to u-boot... but otherwise it works great, including X11 and the mesa vc4 driver
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<smw_> viric: thanks
<smw_> Dezgeg: is there a guide somewhere on putting nixos on a rpi3? If not, I plan to go the bootstrap method. I hear that only takes a few days to compile :-)
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<viric> Dezgeg: great
<viric> Dezgeg: can you post an openssl speed run somewhere?
<Dezgeg> you could try this for the aarch64 one: http://cs.helsinki.fi/u/tmtynkky/nixos-rpi3-aarch64.img though that will need lots of recompiling anyway...
<Dezgeg> I can do openssl speed tomorrow
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 19 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykKd
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0e06c90 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.sexplib-113.33.00+4.03: fix version number
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3a9ae7e Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.ppx_compare: init at 113.33.00+4.03
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<nautillus> Any feedback or there is no Wine users on master/Unstable?
<simpson> nautillus: Do you have 32-bit DRI enabled?
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<nautillus> simpson: I have hardware.opengl.driSupport = true; but not hardware.opengl.driSupport32Bit. But it worked for me before recent upgrade so dunno what is the correct one.
<simpson> nautillus: You should set both to `true` and rebuild.
<nautillus> Maybe defaults changed.
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<simpson> nautillus: What's happening is that Wine needs 32-bit GL libraries in order to emulate 32-bit hardware rendering.
<nautillus> simpson: I will try, thank you for suggestion, but I am surprised that now with hardware.opengl.driSupport32Bit = false I can play e.g. World Of Warships via Wine.
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<simpson> nautillus: You only need it for DRI stuff, emulating GL or D3D. Maybe the game you're playing with is a DD game? I no longer know anything interesting about Wine internals.
<simpson> But I would expect that you need to have `dirSupport32Bit = true;` in order to have accelerated games in Wine.
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<nautillus> I wonder why the same config but on the more recent Nixpkgs result in libGL error: unable to load driver error.
<nautillus> The big thing is that X org jump to 1.19 ABI.
<obadz> gchristensen: spaceFM->ifuse->libplist don't build because of security advisory
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykiO
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8fcd1a0 Franz Pletz: faac: fix build with glibc-2.25...
<copumpkin> fpletz1: you seem to have grown a new character!
<fpletz1> the one and only!
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<copumpkin> :)
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<fpletz> Mic92: yeah, ericsagnes should have access if the wants :)
<copumpkin> fpletz: so staring at switch-to-configuration.pl, I'm thinking more and more that we should remove unitsToStart altogether and just start default.target
<copumpkin> and otherwise leave the restart/reload logic in place
<fpletz> copumpkin: yeah, I always wondered why we are doing it this way, probably leftovers from the upstart era
<copumpkin> the main thing we lose is the "starting the following units:" message
<fpletz> right :?
<copumpkin> no idea, 'twas before my time
<copumpkin> but yeah
<copumpkin> we'd still get the "started the following NEW units" message, of course
<fpletz> and before mine… I've been using nixos for only 2.5 years or so
<copumpkin> err, "the following new units were started:" that one
<fpletz> hm, but then again, I had some other dependent services restart (when using partof) that also didn't show up there
<smw_> how can I find the implementation for pkgs.linuxPackages_rpi? When I search it I can only find its use: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=linuxPackages_rpi
<fpletz> I guess we could argue that these messages are not realiable anways
<copumpkin> they filter out stuff
<ben__> Is there a flowchart that tells me whether I want override, overrideDerivation or overrideAttrs
<copumpkin> ben__: not that I know of, but I can tell you the difference between the first two :)
<ben__> this was really confusing
<ben__> I wanted to add something to buildInputs
<ben__> but I guess some of these swap around buildInputs and nativeBuildInputs
<ben__> override is like if i added callpackage args, overrideDerivation is like if I added stuff to the derivation { ... } attrs and overrideAttrs is like if I added stuff to the stdenv.mkDerivation invocation?
<copumpkin> fpletz: there's a bit of special logic in there to catch units that were started manually and need updating
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<copumpkin> so I guess it's not all upstart holdover
<sphalerite> manveru: a mighty oracle told me you were trying to get steamcmd working on nixos 2 and a half years ago. Did you get anywhere with it? :p
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] obadz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykPW
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master daaf817 obadz: SpaceFM: (optionally) remove dependency on ifuse due to broken dep...
<copumpkin> ben__: I've never seen overrideAttrs, but overrideDerivation lets you change the attribute set being passed to mkDerivation. override lets you change the parameters passed into the function passed to callPackage
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykP4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4518b02 Johannes Bornhold: simpleeval: init at 0.9.5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 402a6c6 Johannes Bornhold: PyWebDAV: init at 0.9.8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 96e1fd6 Johannes Bornhold: python-stdnum: init at 1.5
<copumpkin> ben__: .override would let me change buildGoPackage, fetchgit, fetchhg, etc.
<ben__> right
<copumpkin> ben__: overrideDerivation would let me change buildinputs and so on
<ben__> are you positive?
<copumpkin> yeah
<ben__> i thought i just looked it up :P
<copumpkin> I've used it to do exactly that many times before, so I hope it still does that :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master edcbb6d Franz Pletz: pass: 1.6.5 -> 1.7
<ben__> {nativeB,b}buildInputs
<ben__> ugh
<ben__> {nativeB,b}uildInputs is just weird
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ben0x539 opened pull request #23222: obconf: add libSM to fix build (master...obconf) https://git.io/vykPj
<copumpkin> yeah
<Dezgeg> maybe that can be fixed for 17.03 now that you're supposed to use overrideAttrs as well...
<pikajude> overrideAttrs is so much nicer
<copumpkin> IFD is fine for hydra when applied to builtins.toFile, right?
<ben> what's it do?
<pikajude> it's like overrideDerivation, a bit
<pikajude> except that you can actually modify the attrset passed in to mkDerivation
<pikajude> rather than whatever overrideDerivation does, which is *slightly* different
<pikajude> :q
<pikajude> :q
<pikajude> sorry
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<ben> :q is the smiley representing the face you make when you get your terminal windows confused, right?
<pikajude> yeah
<pikajude> or it could be a dismayed frog viewed from the lower right
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<copumpkin> pp-aterm is generally quite useful, and is referenced from one of the nix pills
<copumpkin> also, stratego-xt seems to still be developed
<copumpkin> I guess we'd just need a new expression for it
<copumpkin> since it's probably changed quite a bit
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<fpletz> copumpkin: yeah, and they were broken with gcc 5 which we did last year with the hardening stuff
<copumpkin> yeah, makes sense
<fpletz> copumpkin: believe me when I say that globin and I really tried to fix these packages, but it was too painful :)
<copumpkin> I wish it were easier to manipulate these aterm files
<gchristensen> obadz: it should work if you add the exception?
<obadz> gchristensen: I don't want unsafe code :)
<gchristensen> :)cool that it is already helping
<copumpkin> anyone know of a lightweight library for manipulating aterm files?
<copumpkin> niksnut_: ? :) :) :)
<copumpkin> i.e., something that isn't the full stratego package
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<18VAAN0DU> nixpkgs/master 6cc50b2 Benjamin Herr: obconf: add libSM to fix build
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #23222: obconf: add libSM to fix build (master...obconf) https://git.io/vykPj
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<copumpkin> obadz: I think I have a better solution than hardcoding for the test
<obadz> copumpkin: talking about libplist or nixos-install?
<copumpkin> actually no, never mind
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<copumpkin> the latter :)
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<copumpkin> shlevy: I had a thought about the build-time closure
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<copumpkin> fpletz: the default.target thing seems to fix my issue. Do you know if we have any VM tests that specifically test edge cases of that logic?
<fpletz> copumpkin: there are some tests that invoke nixos-rebuild switch but those probably aren't testing the edge cases affected by this change
<copumpkin> gah, how do I gain confidence in it? :) I guess I'll submit a PR and highlight our resident systemd gurus?
<copumpkin> if only we had Hydra testing PRs :D
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<cstrahan> copumpkin: your nixos-install work looks promising :)
<copumpkin> yay
<copumpkin> thanks
<copumpkin> I think I can fix the install test failure now
<copumpkin> I'm going to do that once I sort out this systemd crap
<cstrahan> copumpkin: any developments in the "runtime closure of the build time deps" issue?
<copumpkin> yeah, that one
<copumpkin> basically means I think I can retain the current behavior for nixos-install, but won't able to do that for images I build
<copumpkin> which is fine, I can wait until I get the nix feature I need
<copumpkin> ideally I'd like some sort of "rebuildable offline" setting for images/systems we install
<cstrahan> Oh, so addressing something similar to the issues I've had where installing NixOS from CD requires an internet connection, despite installing pretty much exactly what was on the live CD, I suppose?
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<bennofs1> sorry for the snide remark, but can we make a commitment about contributions / issues at least getting *some* comment, even if all it says is "i will look at this later when I have time"? Opening an issue and not getting *any* reaction in months is just a little frustating to me, I mean, it's not the end of the world, but it would be *much* nicer I there was some sort of acknowledgment.
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<copumpkin> bennofs1: the issue is who would commit to that :/
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<copumpkin> but I agree
<copumpkin> have something specific in mind here?
<cstrahan> copumpkin: I wonder if there's a legitimate reason not to have some sort of primop that exposes these closures. Has that been discussed at all? Wouldn't mind implementing it if I suspected it would be merged.
<copumpkin> cstrahan: yeah, shlevy mentions it in that #1245 ticket
<bennofs1> copumpkin: ok just looked one issue is actually just 8 days old so I guess I'm impatient: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1238, but some are much older: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/982 and https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1056
<copumpkin> I suspect it's trickier than it seems, and propagation is icky
<cstrahan> Yeah, sounds like shlevy is for it. Maybe I'll implement it.
<copumpkin> he had that poisoning proposal
<copumpkin> that seemed appealing
<cstrahan> Another approach would be something similar to the exportReferencesGraph (or whatever it was called)
<copumpkin> yeah I also propose that in that ticket :)
<cstrahan> :)
<copumpkin> well I guess I propose the easier one
<cstrahan> I suppose the latter is more performant (where it suffices) than the former.
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<cstrahan> Let's kidnap one of the v8 engineers and have them speed up Nix.
<simpson> cstrahan: You might be disappointed. They do the same cadence of profiling, measuring, and analytic optimizing that everybody else does.
<manveru> sphalerite: steamcmd... no idea
<sphalerite> aw, ok. It was worth a try :D
<manveru> i use steam via the normal nixpkgs install...
<manveru> so far it works for like 95% of all games i've tried
<bennofs1> what is steamcmd?
<manveru> i used steamcmd when i worked at dotabuff though
<manveru> but not on nixos
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<bennofs1> is there a way to nix-build all outputs of a deriv?
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<Dezgeg> nix-build -A foo.all
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<bennofs1> thx
<bennofs1> does a derivation need to have an output called "out"?
<bennofs1> I've removed the "out" output and got Error: _assignFirst found no valid variant!
<Dezgeg> yes, it does
<fpletz> Mic92: do you know why pythonPackages.libasyncns fails?
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<fpletz> did it ever work? :)
<Mic92> fpletz: it did for me, otherwise my jabber client would not work
<fpletz> Mic92: mine is broken because it fails :P
<fpletz> the error is pretty weird after looking at the code
<fpletz> those constants are defined nowhere :/
<Mic92> fpletz: glibc update?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #23224: switch-to-configuration: don't try to figure out active targets ourselves (master...switch-to-configuration-fixes) https://git.io/vyk9k
<fpletz> Mic92: fsck, yeah :/
<fpletz> I should've thought of that :)
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<fpletz> they're now in resolv/resolv-internal.h, hopefully that header is available
<jyp[m]> Does this ring a bell: "ld: framework not found Cocoa", when buiding a Hakyll site?
<Mic92> fpletz: if you fix it, ideally in patch form, so it can be submitted to <lennart@poettering.net>
<Mic92> ah wait
<Mic92> he does not maintain the python package
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm opened pull request #23225: webkitgtk24x: mark as broken (master...webkitgtk24x-broken) https://git.io/vyk9R
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<fpletz> turns out the fix was easier than expected
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<fpletz> I should stop nixing for today, been at it for hours now and keep making silly errors :)
<fpletz> Mic92: only ns_t_zxfr isn't available anymore
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk9H
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b2a4eb8 Vincent Laporte: ppx_tools, camlp4, ocamlify, ocamlmod: don’t strip binaries
<Mic92> fpletz: what is this constant for?
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<fpletz> Mic92: it's for compressed zone transfers (axfr)
<fpletz> but probably deprecated
<Mic92> fpletz: did you already fixed it, or should I give it a try?
<fpletz> Mic92: fixed it
<davidak> FRidh: can you merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/22981 now?
<fpletz> Mic92: do you want a PR or should I just push it to master? added a patch to remove the line with ns_t_zxfr
<Mic92> fpletz: just push it
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykHJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5670d96 Franz Pletz: pythonPackages.libasyncns: fix build with glibc-2.25
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykHk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 392331a Bjørn Forsman: pythonPackages.gst-python: fix source hash...
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<viric> when ld says "cannot find rt" on -lrt, "cannot find m" on -lm ...
<viric> what?
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<viric> AH, -static
<viric> how can I get the static glibc libs?
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<viric> glibc.static. ..
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<gchristensen> domenkozar: ping
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<gchristensen> would anyone mind reading through my doc on setting up nixos on a dell 15" 9560, including an crypted swap?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #23226: fftw: 3.3.5 -> 3.3.6-pl1 (master...fftw) https://git.io/vykQI
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #23227: Add elastic beat shippers (master...elastic_beats) https://git.io/vykQn
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vykQc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 63fee95 Bjørn Forsman: pythonPackages.gst-python: fix source hash...
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<viric> Damn git
<viric> it's calling "gpg2 --status-fd=2 -bsau a"
<viric> where does that 'a' come from? grmbl. It should be the signing key
<gchristensen> viric: what does `git config user.signingkey` say?
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<davidak> can anyone merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/22981 ? i have done all requested changes. would be nice to have it in 17.03 :)
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<gchristensen> FRidh: ^
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<davidak> gchristensen: he seams not to be present
<gchristensen> it is a bit late in CET
<davidak> do you know on what time tomorrow 17.03 get's branched off?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Gabriel439 opened pull request #23228: Fix `pkgs.haskellPackages.gtk` build. Fixes #23184 (master...gabriel/fix_haskell_gtk) https://git.io/vyk7x
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyk5e
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7611525 Tim Steinbach: git: 2.11.1 -> 2.12.0
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #23157: git: 2.11.1 -> 2.12.0 (master...git_2_12_0) https://git.io/vyUSH
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #23228: Fix `pkgs.haskellPackages.gtk` build. Fixes #23184 (master...gabriel/fix_haskell_gtk) https://git.io/vyk7x
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] juliendehos opened pull request #23229: gede: init at 2.0.3 (master...gede) https://git.io/vyk5K
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #22981: PyZufall: init at 0.13.2 (master...PyZufall) https://git.io/vD5fM
<davidak> thanks
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<zraexy> Is there any specific reason as to why some packages are defined directly 'top-level/python-packages.nix' instead of having folders in 'development/python-modules'?
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<FRidh> zraexy: python-modules is for python libraries, or for tools that need to be available for each python interpreter version. Packages that are called in all-packages.nix are applications.
<FRidh> oh, nevermind, I misread
<FRidh> zraexy: they're supposed to be in python-modules/<name>default.nix
<FRidh> and not python-modules/<name>.nix
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykFn
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 78d9414 Tuomas Tynkkynen: findutils: Fix cross compilation...
<yorick_> I would like to be able to just save my nix-shell -p invocations to shell.nix for later automagic use
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<yorick> it could make a .nix file out of it
<bennofs> yorick: I think just putting that into a .nix file with `with import <nixpkgs> {}; stdenv.mkDerivation { name = "env"; buildCommand = ":"; buildInputs = [ ...nix shell -p flag arguments.. ]; }` ?
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<yorick> bennofs: yeah, I wrote it down, but I keep forgetting the exact incantation
<bennofs> yorick: make a script for it :)
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<yorick> is sage broken for anyone else?
<18VAAN137> [nixpkgs] globin closed pull request #23216: phpfpm: eliminate build at evaluation time (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vykzN
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vykbB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ae67f06 Fabian Schmitthenner: phpfpm: eliminate build at evaluation time...
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<tempeh> what package is gl in?
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<tempeh> can't seem to find it
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<clever> sphalerite: some tools like mkfs.ext4 will warn you that your trying to format an existing filesystem
<clever> sphalerite: blanking out the start of the drive silences all warnings, so they wont ask you to confirm things
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vykNH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3a4c851 Johannes Bornhold: mysql57: Add developer_cmds as build input on darwin
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3540c13 Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #23218 from johbo/darwin-mysql...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixops] AmineChikhaoui opened pull request #612: Datadog monitors: fix #611 (master...fix-611) https://git.io/vykAU
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