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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #21344: gwrap: remove unnecessary checks (master...gWrap) https://git.io/vMFB4
<Benrob0329[m]> I'm getting an error when i try to run this:
<Benrob0329[m]> https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ebCUKRpWwoOsivYRbKfBGXfA - Benrob0329[m]_2017-01-24_00:57:37.txt
<gchristensen> sorry Benrob0329[m], I don't know
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] offlinehacker pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMFRm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0097db0 Daiderd Jordan: kubernetes: add kubeadm command
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 06ad459 Jaka Hudoklin: Merge pull request #22071 from LnL7/kubeadm...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cfe4196 Tim Digel: nagiosPluginsOfficial: configure with ssl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 016bec0 Tim Digel: nagiosPluginsOfficial: 2.1.4 -> 2.2.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d8464ef Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #22046 from DerTim1/nagiosplugins...
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<fresheyeball> anyone out there want to talk to me about publishing my hackage package on nix?
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<hodapp> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/15164 oh, hey, there's my same issue
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<hodapp> how might I run a command as part of setting a container up? I am not really sure from reading whether or not, say, postStartScript is something I should be editing
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<Rotaerk> hmm, nixpkgs/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix is supposedly auto-generated, but what's the source?
<Rotaerk> I don't see how some of what's in it could be generated based on the cabal files alone
<Rotaerk> such as BerkeleyDBXML's {inherit (pkgs) db; dbxml = null; inherit (pkgs) xercesc; inherit (pkgs) xqilla;}
<Rotaerk> particularly, how it would know to pass in null for dbxml when it's passing in a package for the others; nothing in the cabal file seems to distinguish them
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<Rotaerk> is there a script somewhere that generates the hackage-packages.nix? or is it just hackage2nix with all default args?
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<mrkgnao> so Intero isn't working for me because it can't find a .so that comes from a package that is in my nix-shell environment
<mrkgnao> (I'm running emacs from the nix-shell)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley opened pull request #22080: exercism: Broaden platforms to include darwin, etc (master...exercism) https://git.io/vMFKm
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] benley pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMFis
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master be1b5c2 Benjamin Staffin: exercism: Broaden platforms to include darwin, etc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b2b32ea Benjamin Staffin: Merge pull request #22080 from benley/exercism...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ericsagnes opened pull request #22081: groonga: 6.1.1 -> 6.1.5 (master...pkg-update/groonga) https://git.io/vMFPz
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<swflint> Hey, I've got a fresh install, and I'm getting the following error: http://i.imgur.com/pOFjiz3.jpg What can I do?
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<Benrob0329[m]> Did you create a new user?
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<swflint> I did define a user, yes.
<Benrob0329[m]> I would disable Lightdm and see if SliM starts
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<swflint> Okay. I can try that.
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<koenvg_> Hey! Just getting into NixOS, and I'm really liking it. One small issue I have: my ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css don't seem to be taken into account. Any idea why?
<benley> oh boy the mysteries of gtk theming
<benley> I have never been able to make heads or tails of that
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<swflint> Now I get: http://i.imgur.com/T7YrGBY.jpg
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<Benrob0329[m]> did you manually set your x11 driver?
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<koenvg_> benley: definitely one of the mysteries of NixOS :P
<koenvg_> managed to write my own key theme for gtk applications though, would hate to give it up...
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<Benrob0329[m]> I think that my project once i get a bit more familiar with Nix is to get FlowBlade working on it
<benley> koenvg_: it's totally possible to package gtk themes for nixos!
<Benrob0329[m]> Cursor themes dont seem to work unless manually installed though...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] kamilchm opened pull request #22083: pasystray: 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0 (master...pasystray) https://git.io/vMFSO
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<Benrob0329[m]> Kdenlive says that its missing an (optional) dependancy ```ffplay``` is this part of another package or not in the repos yet?
<Benrob0329[m]> also ```xfburn``` isnt ported yet
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aszlig pushed 4 new commits to nixpart: https://git.io/vMFH8
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart 69149f3 aszlig: blivet: Remove all imports of pyanaconda...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart c444416 aszlig: blivet: Update patch for setting UUIDs...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/nixpart 7b4c696 aszlig: blivet: Run pocketlint tests in checkPhase...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMFHr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 326e156 Vladimír Čunát: gtk3: move gtk-update-icon-cache to the main output...
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<pradeepch> Hi, How can i install particular version of a python package using `env = pkgs.python27.withPackages (ps: [ ps.flask ]);`
<pradeepch> is there a way i can specify version along in it
<pradeepch> i want to install flask 0.12 version
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<jkemet> lass
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<mbrgm> hey! why is nix giving me 'bad refspec' errors when I specify a valid tag as the 'rev' for 'fetchFromGitHub'?
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<clever> mbrgm: fetchFromGitHub just generates a url to a tarball on github
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #22084: opencv: upgrade from 3.1.0 to 3.2.0 (master...opencv-3.2.0) https://git.io/vMFFH
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<jkemet> @pradeepch: This is in principle described in the manual: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/doc/languages-frameworks/python.md
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMFNA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 4d8e248 Vladimír Čunát: webkit: security 2.14.1 -> 2.14.3...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMFxv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fd26ad6 Vladimír Čunát: nixos programs.man.enable: improve description
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #22085: ansible2: 2.2.0.0 -> 2.2.1.0 (release-16.09...u/ansible_stable) https://git.io/vMFxK
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<jophish> hmm, nix-channel --update fails because the path I'm importing lacks a valid signature
<jophish> I'm sure I've seen this before, but I can't remember the solution
<jophish> I can run `nix-channel --update` as root though
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMbv3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 32a3f71 romildo: libfm: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4e2d940 romildo: pcmanfm: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4785a19 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #22073 from romildo/upd.pcmanfm...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbv7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4f7fe27 Sander van der Burg: titaniumenv: use Node.js 4.x for the CLI tools
<mrkgnao> does anyone have Intero working on nixos?
<symphorien> how can I override the priority of a package in the system environment ? I try to have netcat openbsd instead of netcat-gnu so I put netcat-openbsd.overrideDerivation(old: { meta.priority = "5"; }) in systemPackages but I get the message "cannot coerce a function to a string".
<mrkgnao> old.meta.priority maybe?
<mrkgnao> just guessing, I don't exactly know what's going on
<symphorien> same result :(
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<symphorien> I also tried with 5 as an int instead of a string, and with meta = { priority = 5 ; };
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMbfW
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 1102c77 Eelco Dolstra: shell.nix: Add a flag for using clang
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master e5641df Eelco Dolstra: Work around a bug in clang and older versions of gcc...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] timbertson opened pull request #22086: buildPythonPackage: send pip output to stderr (master...pip-stderr) https://git.io/vMbJ9
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] timbertson closed pull request #22015: buildPythonPackage: accept developmentPrefix and send `pip` output to stderr (master...python-stderr) https://git.io/vMQvy
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMbU3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 b26fa70 Eelco Dolstra: Revert "Use looser 9pfs caching in VM tests/builds"...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #22086: buildPythonPackage: send pip output to stderr (staging...pip-stderr) https://git.io/vMbJ9
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jagajaga closed pull request #22081: groonga: 6.1.1 -> 6.1.5 (master...pkg-update/groonga) https://git.io/vMFPz
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<LnL> symphorien: use overrideAttrs
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fadenb opened pull request #22087: smokeping: setuid for fping6 (master...smokeping_fping6_suid) https://git.io/vMbk5
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<symphorien> is it only in unstable ? error: attribute ‘overrideAttrs’ missing
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<LnL> yes, I think so
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbIq
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7c5324f Franz Pletz: nftables: disable broken xtables support
<clever> has anybody here done anything complex with node2nix?
<clever> the generated files are making it harder to add customizations to the nix expressions
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<symphorien> does nix-shell take into account package override set in ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix when given the -I nixpkgs=. option ?
<LnL> symphorien: (drv: stdenv.mkDerivation (drv.drvAttrs // { inherit (drv) meta; } // { meta.priority = 5; })) netcat-openbsd
<symphorien> thanks !
<symphorien> it works
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] roberth opened pull request #22088: haskellPackages.doctest-discover: fix (master...fix-haskell-doctest-discover) https://git.io/vMbLC
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #22088: haskellPackages.doctest-discover: fix (master...fix-haskell-doctest-discover) https://git.io/vMbLC
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<joepie91> gchristensen: ping
<joepie91> gchristensen: actually, I'll send a PM
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbqD
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 3b4a15b Shea Levy: build-remote: Use futimes instead of futimens on APPLE
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbY2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b3b300b Tristan Helmich: smokeping: setuid for fping6
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<chpatrick> is there a clever way of making packages cpu architecture aware?
<chpatrick> I was thinking it would be good to pass in an argument like cpuArch and then in the CFLAGS set -march=${cpuArch} -mtune={cpuArch}
<chpatrick> so that caching still works as long as you have the same architecture
<jophish> is Théophane in here?
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<regnat> jophish: yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMb3c
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a82810c Eelco Dolstra: linux: Apply 9p veryloose patch to 4.9
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<ronny> chpatrick: i beleive all that would be needed is such a parameter
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<pierron_> garbas: It's your turn to visit London :P
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<pierron_> garbas: I hope you will have more persons attending that what I had last time.
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<ixxie> oh.... they use Nix at Mozilla :>
<ixxie> nice
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbZY
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master de9a4f5 Sander van der Burg: titaniumenv: add 6.0 SDK + bump kitchensink testcase
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<gchristensen> garbas: someone tells me they _just now_ realize 16.09 was out. perhaps we should put some sort of notice in old versions of nixpkgs or an update nagger or something
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<LnL> gchristensen: :o
<pierron_> gchristensen: That's supposed we are capable of releasing in time.
<pierron_> gchristensen: unless you want something which pulls a simple text file from nixos.org which contains the latest version number.
<pierron_> Which I admit would be interesting for knowing the number of active installations.
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<gchristensen> or (if we assume they do nix-channel --update) by putting a change in there somehow
<gchristensen> a change in nixpugs*
<gchristensen> nixpkgs* (I can type, I swear)
<pierron_> hum, sounds easily doable then.
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<MoreTea> So when will 16.09 not be maintained anymore?
<MoreTea> Directly after the 17.03 release?
<MoreTea> Or is there a period in which both 16.09 and 17.03 are supported?
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<gchristensen> that is typically when people stop backporting patches to it, MoreTea, but if someone in the community wanted to backport stuff to 16.03 it'd be fine
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<MoreTea> Ideally, we should communicate clearly that some release is not supported anymore after $DATE, and provide a (small) window in which we'd support both $LATEST_STABLE and $LATEST_STABLE-1. A window of ~ 1 month should be good enough
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<zimbatm[m]> ideally we have enough man power to support two LTS releases like Ubuntu
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMbcQ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 2f77bef Sander van der Burg: titaniumenv: add 6.0 SDK + bump kitchensink testcase...
<gchristensen> zimbatm[m]: in reality though?
<gchristensen> MoreTea: I _think_ I could commit to applying patches to 16.09 for another month
<zimbatm[m]> in reality we don't have enough manpower to even support one release properly (yet)
<MoreTea> I guess that will only become a reality when businesses want to pay $$$ for long term support
<joepie91> I would suggest limiting old-release support, for now, to "backporting of security patches only", so that it can be rolled in with the existing vulnerability roundups
<joepie91> and only for a limited duration, 1 month is probably enough
<joepie91> given the technical characteristics of NixOS
<zimbatm[m]> yeah that would be nice
<joepie91> (namely: it's not likely to blow up in your face)
<MoreTea> Yep, this one month overlap will allow people to switch to the newer stable.
<gchristensen> I'll make sure to ping you two on those roundups ;)
<MoreTea> hehe, I'll try to help when possible ;)
<gchristensen> joepie91 sent me a bunch of ideas on how to nag users, I'm thinking the most likely option would be adding a like ... `builtin.trace` somewhere important in the old nixpkgs trees so they might have a chance of seeing it during a rebuild
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<gchristensen> "most likely option" as in most likely to be done before 17.03
<goibhniu> gchristensen: FWIW, I've been working on a little dashboard icon to show when a new channel is available ... can also easily show stable releases
<goibhniu> dashboard/system tray
<gchristensen> that could be good
<joepie91> goibhniu: yeah, that sounds like exactly what we need [in graphical environments]
<gchristensen> we'll likely want to patch something like this in to even really really old releases
<gchristensen> goibhniu: I have a way for you to know when updates contain security patches ...
<MoreTea> gchristensen, that would be the nice way. The other one would be to do something like `allowUnfree`; abort unless `yesIWantToUseUnsupportedRelease = "16.09";`
<goibhniu> gchristensen: sweet!
<gchristensen> pierron_: ^ opinions?
<MoreTea> It's probably quite easy to skip over a `builtins.trace`
<goibhniu> https://github.com/cillianderoiste/NixTrayWidget (if anyone's interested)
<joepie91> MoreTea: hm, that might be a good idea. an opt-in to potentially dangerous thingsx
<joepie91> things*
<joepie91> although that still doesn't notify the user in time
<joepie91> like, it's a good killswitch for after the 1-month transition, but still doesn't let the user know when the month *starts*
<MoreTea> I guess that people that actually use NixOS in production will have thought about how they should update their systems.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] deepfire opened pull request #22089: quodlibet: rename to quodlibet, quodlibet-without-gst-plugins (master...quodlibet-rename) https://git.io/vMbCd
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<MoreTea> That leaves people new to nix{,pkgs,os,ops}
<MoreTea> We should solve that problem with more/better documentation
<gchristensen> goibhniu: git fetch origin refs/notes/security:refs/notes/security; git log --notes=security e5acde0cf4975282cf26461e6d46db1e4ef90026
<joepie91> MoreTea: keep in mind that NixOS isn't just used in headless environments :P
<joepie91> and documentation doesn't solve the problem of "people have X things to do, and a daily check of whether there's a new NixOS version isn't one of them"
<pierron_> gchristensen: One of the use case if for reproducibility of research programs, and I would defintely see NixOS fill this gap better than VM, to the extend that CPU instructions are stable enough.
<pierron_> s/NixOS/Nix/
<gchristensen> pierron_: oh yes agreed
<pierron_> gchristensen: I do not think we should prevent users from using deprecated versions at any time.
<gchristensen> hmm yeah
<gchristensen> and having to change the code to permit it is annoying
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<gchristensen> but a trace would be appropriate I believe
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<pierron_> I think we need a way to request user input in a yes/no format from Nix evaluation.
<pierron_> or maybe yes/throw format.
<MoreTea> Hm. My main problem is that these traces must be observed during the nix-building, but if you do a nix-build, and go grab some coffee, you'll never see it.
<joepie91> gchristensen: having to change the code to permit it would be annoying, yes, but that's the point :)
<goibhniu> thanks gchristensen!
<MoreTea> This could be solved by having a `builtin.addSummaryWarning` that would print warnings just before nix-build exists
<pierron_> joepie91: but then it is no longer reproducible.
<joepie91> (one sec)
<joepie91> pierron_: how so?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbWX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7bc801e Eelco Dolstra: curl: Apply upstream patch to fix https hangs...
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<pierron_> joepie91: exactly because you have to modify something.
<MoreTea> joepie91, w.r.t. reproducibility, I guess that people should pin the git commit of the nixpkgs that they're using, right?
<joepie91> pierron_: how is this different from any other update to the channel?
<joepie91> it doesn't make it any less reproducible, it just changes the inputs
<MoreTea> So the abort would only affect people that attempt to update to a newer version of the no-longer supported channel
<joepie91> MoreTea: correct
<MoreTea> So I guess that this would not be an issue after all then.
<joepie91> it wouldn't be a timebomb or anything
<gchristensen> pierron_: how about add it to the end of the activation script?
<gchristensen> MoreTea: ^
<pierron_> gchristensen: the activation script is only on NixOS
<MoreTea> Oh yes, that would be even better.
<gchristensen> then after switch it'll emit a warning and also ~every boot~
<gchristensen> don't non-nixos people typically use unstable?
<pierron_> no clue.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMbWb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 c78022a Eelco Dolstra: curl: Apply upstream patch to fix https hangs...
<gchristensen> breakfast time, back soon. think on this :)
<joepie91> gchristensen: your suggestion being to have this warning the moment a new release comes out ("This release is outdated and will stop being supported on $date, please update to $newVersion ASAP"), and when the old version goes EOL after a month or so, to change it to an EOL notice ("This release is outdated and no longer receives security updates; you should update to $newVersion immediately")?
<pierron_> At least we need to improve the user readable outputs from Nix.
<LnL> a single user install on otherr distros uses nixpkgs-unstable my default
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<MoreTea> pierron_, indeed.
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<MoreTea> So this might be too late to fix for 17.03, given that that would probably require some changes to nix
<gchristensen> ok so the other thing is we can start with something not very good and make it better, we have the technology :) but we need to start somewhere
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMblc
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master e3bf228 Eelco Dolstra: Enable verbose curl output...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 19ce732 Eelco Dolstra: Fix typo
<3NAAAC0O7> [nix] edolstra closed pull request #1182: Add environment variable to enable verbose CURL output (master...master) https://git.io/vMRqV
<MoreTea> I'm +1 on the activation script
<joepie91> yeah, I think 'hacking' it into the end of the activation script is a good starting point
<joepie91> and should also be possible to do retroactively?
<joepie91> (without breaking stuff)
<joepie91> (or requiring Nix upgrades)
<MoreTea> and having some stuff in place to compute whether or not a nixpkgs is out of date.
<joepie91> mind I am not very familiar with Nix internals, so I may be wrong on that :P
<MoreTea> We probably should backport that as well to e.g. 16.03 and 15.09
<joepie91> MoreTea: as in, the local copy of the channel hasn't been updated in a while?
<pierron_> The activation script output is not readable before running the programs, so this is kind of too late for security issue
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22090: hexchat: 2.12.3 -> 2.12.4 (master...upd.hexchat) https://git.io/vMblz
<pierron_> before --> right before the programs start with the init system.
<MoreTea> joepie91, that issue is orthogonal to this one
<MoreTea> but a valid one nonetheless
<joepie91> MoreTea: right, but that's why I'm asking "computing whether a nixpkgs is out of date" seems out of scope for the issue of old NixOS versions
<joepie91> :P
<joepie91> er, asking,*
<joepie91> pierron_: the goal isn't to notify the user of security issues; rather to notify them that a new release is available and/or that their current one is EOL
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<joepie91> so that it only shows after services have been started is not a big deal in that context
<joepie91> I do think that "refuse building an EOL NixOS without opt-in" is a next step to be considered for the moment when the transition period has ended, but that's a next step
<joepie91> and probably more controversial
<joepie91> so let's just start with warnings :P
<MoreTea> I meant, having the infrastructure in place so that we could have a state machine for release lifecycles; unstable -> stable -> old_stable -> unsupported
<pierron_> joepie91: I disagree, with the opt-in.
<pierron_> joepie91: the user already opted-in by choosing the channel.
<joepie91> MoreTea: I'm just not really seeing how this relates to "computing whether a nixpkgs is out of date" - a "timebomb" is precisely what you'd want to avoid due to reproducibility, so manually pushing the warning to older NixOS branches seems like a better solution to me than anything automated
<joepie91> pierron_: no, they didn't
<joepie91> pierron_: and like I said, this is likely to be more controversial, so this needs more discussion
<MoreTea> it's not "computing" anything; it's just something that you'd commit to nixpkgs, and then gets on your machine when you do a `nix-channel --update`
<joepie91> (at the time the user opted into using the channel, it was likely not EOL; when it goes EOL, that opt-in needs reconsideration)
<MoreTea> I'm proposing to do exactly what you're talking about :)
<LnL> yeah just adding a new commit to the release branch that's out of date sounds reasonable to me
<pierron_> nix-channel --update is not trivially reversible from the command line, we should not break anything!
<joepie91> MoreTea: right, your use of the term "compute" threw me off :P
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<LnL> pierron_: nix-channel --rollback
<LnL> :)
<joepie91> MoreTea: but yeah, then I think we agree
<pierron_> LnL: ok, then we should advertise this one.
<rly> I would like an interface nix-undo myself.
<mrkgnao> how do I fix "no space left on device" errors? I'm getting those with stack
<mrkgnao> seems like the /run/user/uid tmpfs is getting full
<joepie91> rly: pierron_: so a while ago, a "UX proposal" was made for NixOS: https://gist.github.com/edolstra/efcadfd240c2d8906348
<rly> That would have a look at the command history and then run the appropriate command based on context.
<joepie91> I recommend having a look through it
<mrkgnao> how do I make it bigger?
<rly> It would absolutely *not* be intended as a system interface, though.
<rly> It's just something people would use who are either desktop users or developers.
<joepie91> I generally like the UX proposal
<joepie91> there are a bunch of things with further discussion in the comments, but overall I feel like this would be a *massive* step forwards compared to the current command set
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<joepie91> in terms of intuitiveness and general making-sense-ness
<MoreTea> It would be really interesting if we'd had some command analogue to `{bundler,npm,yarn} add <pkg>` that would parse a default.nix expression and do some magic
<pierron_> haha, ln -s 'https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable' nixos-unstable I wonder if this is something we can abuse.
<joepie91> there's a much more direct mapping between "things users want to do" and "commands there are"
<joepie91> whereas right now you're usually left hunting obscure flags for 30 minutes
<MoreTea> indeed
<MoreTea> or even command name
<joepie91> yep
<ixxie> joepie91: that is pretty cool..... any ideas of when / whether this will be implemented?
<MoreTea> AFAIK, it's already slowly being implemented
<joepie91> ixxie: I'm not really sure. the gist has been sitting there for a while now (earliest revision is a year ago), and I've heard that some bits are starting to be adapted, but I don't know if there's a concrete milestone / issue thread for it, or whether discussion around all of it has completed yet
<joepie91> I found the gist more or less by accident, I think it was referenced from an issue thread somewhere :P
<joepie91> so I don't know much about the process behind it
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<ixxie> maybe copumpkin does since they were an early commented on the issue?
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<ixxie> btw has anybody ever tried to explore the possibility of configuring /sys/devices via NixOS modules?
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<joepie91> I should probably get to work...
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<gchristensen> pierron_: you'd see it if you ran a switch, but I see what you're saying that it isn't enough.
<gchristensen> like if you do a nixos-rebuild boot
<pierron_> gchristensen: yes, on the boot it will only appear a few fraction of seconds before changing screens,
<gchristensen> what do you think the simplest possible method would be?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22091: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 (master...upd.xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin) https://git.io/vMbBj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #22092: firefox: 50.1.0 -> 51.0, firefox-esr: 45.6.0esr -> 45.7.0esr (master...firefox-51.0) https://git.io/vMbRk
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<gchristensen> we could literally patch nixos-rebuild
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #22093: firefox-bin: 50.1.0 -> 51.0 (master...firefox-bin-51.0) https://git.io/vMbRG
<gchristensen> <3 taku0
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<pierron_> I am waiting on the version 53, to see how many person will complain about the dependency on rustc & cargo.
<MoreTea> haha, indeed.
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<SkeThuVe> I have a newbie question on nix and nixpkgs : I want to build dwdiff which depends on icu
<SkeThuVe> I wrote some nix expression taking icu as an input and adding it to buildinput
<SkeThuVe> when I try to 'nix-shell -A dwdiff' I have acess to the content of icu in particular icu-config
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #19809: vnstat: add option to start vnstatd (master...start-vnstatd) https://git.io/vPbxE
<SkeThuVe> but it does not seem to be available when I do 'nix-build -A dwdiff'
<SkeThuVe> the generic builder forward an error from './configure' saying icu-config is not found
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22094: cbatticon: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.5 (master...upd.cbatticon) https://git.io/vMb0e
<SkeThuVe> any idea on how to have it available in the build process ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMb0C
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2bf0f84 Eelco Dolstra: nss: 3.27.2 -> 3.28.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMb0B
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9c9424d taku0: firefox: 50.1.0 -> 51.0, firefox-esr: 45.6.0esr -> 45.7.0esr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 15114fc Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #22092 from taku0/firefox-51.0...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c2bd9ca Eelco Dolstra: sqlite: 3.15.2 -> 3.16.2
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMbgo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 28c3d7f taku0: firefox-bin: 50.1.0 -> 51.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b6adec1 Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #22093 from taku0/firefox-bin-51.0...
<jophish> regnat: good luck on the typechecking! What kind of type checking and inference are you hoping to implement?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jpierre03 opened pull request #22095: munin: 2.0.29 -> 2.0.30 (master...pr-munin) https://git.io/vMbg9
<unlmtd[m]> how far is the runit-nixos?
<gchristensen> what is that?
<unlmtd[m]> someone was working on nixos using runit
<gchristensen> someone was?
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<unlmtd[m]> clever I think
<unlmtd[m]> im sure if some of the devs tried runit theyd be sold
<pippijn> what makes runit special?
<gchristensen> never heard of it
<gchristensen> runit-nixos, that is, I've heard of runit
<unlmtd[m]> their website goes over it well
<LnL> I think clever called it notos or something like that
<unlmtd[m]> ya
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<unlmtd[m]> systemd doesnt have much over it except mind share
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] moretea opened pull request #22096: [RFC] Add lifecycle stages to nixpkgs (master...release-lifecycle) https://git.io/vMbaB
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<gchristensen> if you'd like to see nixos using runit, I would recommend you be the change you want to see in nixos
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<gchristensen> whoa, nice pr MoreTea
<gchristensen> you're very fast
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMbVU
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 4b6d3c5 Eelco Dolstra: Hopefully fix build on older GCC...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master fa738e5 Eelco Dolstra: Revert "builtins.readFile: Put the references of the file, not those needed to realize the file, into the context"...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbVu
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 4e6a2fb Eelco Dolstra: Revert "Propagate path context via builtins.readFile"...
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<gchristensen> niksnut: I'd like you to take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/22096 (the rule I was given when I got merge rights was not do anything controversial ;) )
<MoreTea> Sure. I'm hoping to provoke some responses from people.
<MoreTea> I agree that the abort should probably disappear, but the problem then is that this becomes all very hard to discover.
<gchristensen> a change to nix itself is much more difficult to accomplish
<MoreTea> Probably, but also probably worth the effort.
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<MoreTea> We could fall back to lib.warn etc, but AFAIK, they will just print their messages in the middle of the evaluation
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<chpatrick> does anyone know how I can pass a cmakeFlags with spaces?
<MoreTea> what about? `cmakeFlags = "-opt '-opt-with=arg with spaces'";`
<MoreTea> (is cmakeFlags an array? then ["-opt", "'-opt-with=arg with spaces'"] might work)
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<chpatrick> MoreTea: I'm trying "-DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE=-march=${cpuMarch} -O3"
<chpatrick> but the -O3 gets passed to cmake instead of going in the flag
<chpatrick> I can't get it to work with quotes
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<MoreTea> You could try to set `MAKE_C_FLAG_RELEASE` in the derivation itself, if cmake respects env vars
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<clever> chpatrick: the cmake hook will respect cmakeFlags
<unlmtd[m]> gchristensen: I didnt understand that.
<clever> so you can do cmakeFlags = [ "-DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE=-march=${cpuMarch}" ];
<clever> it may need more quotes in quotes, since i think you want a space and several flags there
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<clever> chpatrick: any time you add cmake to the buildInputs, the stdenv will source this file, which altars how builds get done: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/cmake/setup-hook.sh
<unlmtd[m]> "recommend I be the change" you meant "recommend I do the change" I guess
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbrt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f8e39ec Vladimír Čunát: nss: fetchpatch -> fetchurl...
<chpatrick> clever: I can't get it to work however I put the quotes
<clever> chpatrick: can you pastebin some of the ways you tried it, and the errors?
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<unlmtd[m]> I certainly could do it. I probably wont. I think everyone here would like runit; it integrates better with the architecture of nixos
<gchristensen> thank you niksnut
<unlmtd[m]> and it would make nixos more portable
<gchristensen> unlmtd[m]: yes exactly, "Be the change you want to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
<unlmtd[m]> iv been working with small mips soc, and I wish I could use nixos
<unlmtd[m]> ya thats what I do
<Dezgeg> how small mips soc?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbrb
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 36ac705 zimbatm: tetex: fix source urls
<unlmtd[m]> I dont use a car, dont use chemical soap, and I dont contribute if my contribution gets 'licensed' - I am the change I want to see...
<chpatrick> clever: http://pastebin.com/jxnVHtkF
<chpatrick> I think when the setup-hook puts in the arguments it throws away the quotes
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<unlmtd[m]> everything I write is free for anyone to use however they want; they can even claim authorship. So that prohibits contributing to nix
<Rotaerk_> sounds pretty limiting
<clever> chpatrick: oh, another option, let me dig it up
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<clever> chpatrick: NIX_CFLAGS = [ "-march=${cpuMarch} -O3 -g" ];
<clever> chpatrick: this is a part of the gcc wrapper used by nix to inject all of the -L and -I's for buildInputs
<jophish> unlmtd[m]: why does that prohibit contributing to nix?
<kier|web> hmm, nix-copy-closure is giving me an error saying "openssl failed with exit code 1", but with no more information
<kier|web> journal says "unexpected Nix daemon error: interrupted by the user"
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMbKl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 30a94de Vladimír Čunát: nss: remove parameter that just got unused
<kier|web> anyone know what might be causing this?
<chpatrick> clever: how can I tell if it's being used?
<clever> chpatrick: it should always be used, let me dig up another example
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<clever> chpatrick: NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE = [ "-ggdb -Og" ];
<clever> this is how i was forcing debug info on one of my projects
<unlmtd[m]> jophish: contributions to nix are considered 'licensed'
<chpatrick> clever: will it work for C++ too?
<clever> yeah, i believe it applies to both
<unlmtd[m]> Dezgeg: 128M ram
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<Dezgeg> kinda small
<Dezgeg> do you know where to get big mips? :)
<unlmtd[m]> this is just what I have to work with
<Dezgeg> ok
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<Dezgeg> I have been trying to find hardware for big endian testing and seems quite difficult, even imagination tech sales guys didn't answer back
<unlmtd[m]> dont know if anyone saw it, but the first risv socs were just produced
<unlmtd[m]> so within 12-24 months intel should be bankrupt
<unlmtd[m]> riscv*
<chpatrick> clever: I think that works, thanks a lot
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #22097: gnupg21: 2.1.17 -> 2.1.18 (master...update_gnupg21) https://git.io/vMbiV
<unlmtd[m]> silicone is going to be commoditized
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<gchristensen> you can already buy silicone by the pound ;)
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<gchristensen> I would find it very surprising if nixos switched away from systemd any time soon
<lassulus> there would be some kind of general service abstraction first
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<lassulus> hopefully
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ca8ab80 Jörg Thalheim: telegraf: 1.1.2 -> 1.2.0
<jarlg> How can I get nix-shell to use readline?
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<jarlg> Installing bash-interactive seems to have fixed it.
<regnat> jophish: Thanks :)
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<regnat> It will probably be based on set-theoritic types
<regnat> And a bunch of gradual typing, because everything won't be typeable
<LnL> jarlg: you don't want to know how long it took for me to realise that when I was building a nix dockerimage
<avn> gchristensen: massrebuild coming?
<gchristensen> you bet
<gchristensen> Thursday
<avn> Folks, anyone have zfs pool on top of lvm/md1?
<jarlg> jarlg: It seems like it'd be a sane default.. wonder what's the argument against? (People using other shells maybe?)
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<jarlg> LnL: ^ ...
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<LnL> gchristensen: does it cause a rebuild for that many things?
<gchristensen> it is pretty deep ..
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<LnL> right, it might rebuild git
<ToxicFrog> avn: in general that's disrecommended compared to just letting zfs manage the devs itself; why do you ask?
<avn> ToxicFrog: in middle of migration now ;)
<jophish> regnat: sounds exciting, I'm really looking forward to it
<avn> ToxicFrog: just found that random processed blocked on write to zfs
<clever> avn: my laptop has zfs on lvm on luks
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<philipp[m]> avn: I mean, it's nothing you'd want to do but I don't see that it's really harmfull. Do you have any problems?
<avn> clever: any specific tunings?
<avn> then processes unblock after 1-3 mins of waiting
<gchristensen> <snark> one major tuning I've heard is "don't use zfs unless you have a ton of drives"
<Benrob0329[m]> FireFox 51 has been released
<avn> Actually I plan to kick lvm/md from under zpool, as soon I move root onto zfs, and see if it succesful booting
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<clever> avn: havent messed with any of the tuning yet
<LnL> avn: did your pool get filled up at some point?
<avn> I think it block size on md1 (possible)
<clever> avn: main reason i went with zfs on lvm, is because i wanted swap on the same luks, but i didnt want to deal with swap on a zvol
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<avn> clever: swap on zvol looks working
<clever> avn: so the only thing lvm is doing is partitioning up a luks volume
<clever> only 1 physical drive
<philipp[m]> gchristensen: Seconded. Also you want to only use it with ecc ram, see "Scrub Of Death".
<LnL> that's fine, but using and md device with zfs is probably not a good idea
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<Benrob0329[m]> Er, FF will be released today, sorry
<avn> LnL: I think it should b filled on 90-95% after rsync of my film archive will be done, then I kill second last volume (vg0/video) and give this space to `tank volume`
<avn> LnL: Just haven't spare disk to make simpler migration
<gchristensen> philipp[m]: I hear that isn't a real thing: http://jrs-s.net/2015/02/03/will-zfs-and-non-ecc-ram-kill-your-data/
<LnL> filling up a pool that much can also cause performance issues
<avn> LnL: it ~50% atm
<t42> Hi, quick question: I'm currently logged in on root with slim+X+i3, and whenever I switch to a tty via ctrl+alt+F?, the system freezes and I can't get back to my X session. This worked before enabling the xserver. Does this ring an obvious bell for anyone?
<yorick> is it me or does NIX_BUILD_HOOK have no effect?
<avn> I move stuff from my ~250G volume onto zfs, then give space to zfs
<yorick> NIX_BUILD_HOOK=nix/build-remote.pl nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A i3status just buillds locally
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<avn> then I move my root, and cross fingers if it boot from zfs on next reboot ;)
<Benrob0329[m]> > Hi, quick question: I'm currently logged in on root with slim+X+i3, and whenever I switch to a tty via ctrl+alt+F?, the system freezes and I can't get back to my X session. This worked before enabling the xserver. Does this ring an obvious bell for anyone?
<Benrob0329[m]> t42 (IRC) Yes and no
<LnL> avn: you can't defragment a zpool so you have to be a bit careful with filling it up above 80%
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<Benrob0329[m]> What graphics driver are you using?
<avn> LnL: will it defragment on resilvering (later)?
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<Benrob0329[m]> And why did you log into X11 as root?
<LnL> avn: don't know exactly, but I think it might not
<MoreTea> avn, the only way to get it OK again is to destroy your pool, and import an backup
<MoreTea> But it'll just reduce performance a bit.
<LnL> the md device is probably causing more issues then this
<t42> Benrob0329[m]: Because I'm early into the configuration and didn't get around to setting up my own user yet. Yes, I should do that. I switched to linuxPackages_4_8 because with 4.4 there was something about Skylake integrated graphics support lacking. This is an Optimus laptop, but I have not installed any nvidia drivers yet
<MoreTea> I solved this by creating an additional filesystem, and set a reservation, so that the disk will never get too full
<LnL> I just set a quota on the root pool
<Benrob0329[m]> t42: go ahead and do both of those
<Benrob0329[m]> t42: it should fix your problem
<Benrob0329[m]> BTW you can do both on Install
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<Benrob0329[m]> t42: be sure to set ``` nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree = true;```
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<t42> Benrob0329[m]: I enabled bumblebee and added "nvidia" to videoDrivers (and added a user). This might take a couple of reboots, thanks for the help! :)
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<Benrob0329[m]> t42: No problem
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<avn> LnL: my plans are degrade md1, then give freed disk to zpool as mirror and resilver
<avn> then finally kill md1, and resilver again
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<avn> `iostat 1` show me only read activity when stuff (including rsync) blocked
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<philipp[m]> t42: Do you use mesa or some proprietary drivers? I had similar issues with fglrx years ago.
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<swflint> I've got the following error on a recent install when trying to run X. What can I do? http://i.imgur.com/zlb6uaa.jpg
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<goibhniu> hi swflint, what gpu have you got and how is it configured in NixOS?
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<swflint> Integrated, intel I believe. No direct config. This is on a laptop.
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<goibhniu> swflint: ah, you probably need services.xserver.videoDrivers = [ "intel"];
<goibhniu> swflint: how are you trying to run x?
<swflint> Okay.
<goibhniu> you need a display manager on NixOS
<swflint> Through the display-manager service.
<goibhniu> cool
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<swflint> Also, is it normal for a nix install to be really slow?
<Benrob0329[m]> I would leave SliM enabled until your sure it works, then mess with it.
<goibhniu> swflint: not at all
<goibhniu> swflint: is it compiling stuff?
<swflint> Not that I'm aware of.
<goibhniu> how much RAM have you got?
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<goibhniu> over 2G?
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<swflint> Just 2.
<Benrob0329[m]> Swap?
<swflint> Have 3g set aside as swap
<gchristensen> swflint: what is your computer doing right now? does it have high load? (what does `uptime` say?) if you look at `top` are there processes taking up lots of CPU?
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<gchristensen> swflint: are you running low on memory? (what does `free -m` say?)
<sphalerite> swflint: I misunderstood that as using a 3G connection as a swap device. That would be... interesting
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #22098: swift: init at DEVELOPMENT-SNAPSHOT-2017-01-23-a (master...feature/swift) https://git.io/vMbAa
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<swflint> It's doing almost nothing.
<corngood> Is it just downloading packages?
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<swflint> Corngood: not that I'm aware of.
<gchristensen> what about the top of the `top` output?
<corngood> Sorry if I missed something earlier, but are you just doing initial install? Can you show the tty where that's happening?
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<gchristensen> what is happening to make you say it is slow?
<swflint> No, already did the install.
<swflint> Trying to run anything gives a delay, editing a file in nano has a 5-10 second delay between keystroke and screen update.
<gchristensen> when you type at the prompt, is there such a delay?
<swflint> Yep.
<gchristensen> can you provide the output of `dmesg`? if you have internet, dmesg | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
<swflint> Sure, will do in a moment
<swflint> Also, the install is on an internal mmc if that makes a difference.
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<gchristensen> clever: do you know about booting from mmc?
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<gchristensen> swflint: probably not related, but "FAT-fs (mmcblk0p1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck."
<swflint> It does boot, no problem with that, no X and really slow
<clever> gchristensen: on what hardware?
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<gchristensen> clever: swflint has a mysteriously slow system, even typing at the terminal is slow to respond
<clever> ah
<gchristensen> now load / no high cpu / lots of free mem
<swflint> Lenovo ideaPAD FLEX 4
<gchristensen> no load*
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<clever> swflint: iostat can help check the block device load, iostat -x 30, let it run for a few mins, then pastebin the output
<LnL> woot, somebody create a pr for swift :D
<swflint> iostat: command not found.
<clever> swflint: nix-shell -p sysstat
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<gchristensen> nix-shell -p sysstat --run "iostat -x 30" swflint
<dtz> LnL: that's me! :D
<dtz> although linux-only for the moment, not sure if you're interested in having it work on darwin as well?
<LnL> yes, I want it for a darwin package
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<dtzWill> oh, sorry :3. I've gotten pretty familiar with how the build and such works so can probably help make that happen.... but no darwin host to test on here O:).
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<ToxicFrog> gchristensen: ! I'm stealing that snippet for later
<gchristensen> :)
<LnL> dtzWill: no problem, I can test it
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<swflint> gchristensen: no iostat output.
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<corngood> Are you running in a VM?
<swflint> Nope. Laptop
<corngood> Yeah just checking that it's bare metal.
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<clever> swflint: thats just the average since bootup, need to wait 30 seconds for a real sample to appear
<corngood> Was the machine idle when that was running? It seems busy
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<swflint> Yep. That was idle.
<clever> corngood: the first output iostat makes is the average since bootup, the 2nd sample onwards, is averaged over the number it was given
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm opened pull request #22101: No md5 (master...no-md5) https://git.io/vMNfJ
<corngood> Ah, got it
<clever> definitely looks like the SD card is the bottleneck at times
<clever> it had to wait 12.5 seconds for a command at one point
<swflint> Damn it!
<clever> what grade of SD card is it?
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<swflint> No idea, and I don't want to open the thing up.
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<clever> is it a normal SD card in a slot, or part of the laptop?
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<swflint> I'll take a look.
<corngood> I don't really understand the delays happening in nano. I don't use nano though. Is it writing backups?
<swflint> It is the primary storage for the laptop
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<swflint> I don't use nano either, but figured it's probably lighter weight than emacs
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<corngood> When do you get delays when using the terminal? Just on execution / tab?
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<swflint> Everything, normal characters included.
<swflint> I do have it set to use dvp
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<corngood> Dvp?
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<swflint> Programmer's Dvorak layout
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<corngood> Honestly seems like a kernel problem. That SD card is presumably meant to run a windows install, right?
<swflint> Yep.
<corngood> I would try running a newer kernel. Also searching for Linux issues for that hardware, but I tried that and didn't see anything obvious
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<corngood> Could you paste `lsblk`?
<swflint> It'll have to be after class.
<swflint> How would I go about running a newer kernel?
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<corngood> FYI latest kernel: `boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_latest;`
<corngood> This is where you start to see the upside of nixos :)
<swflint> Thanks!
<swflint> And yes, it is.
<philipp[m]> Systemd 228 has a local root exploit that was fixed but not documented. Is nixos using that in any version? https://lwn.net/Articles/712367/
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<gchristensen> philipp[m]: 15.09 and 16.09 do not, not sure about 16.03
<clever> eek, i really need to update my router!
<clever> its got 228...
<gchristensen> philipp[m]: 16.03 is also safe as well
<philipp[m]> gchristensen that could have been nasty.
<ixxie> has anybody ever considered extendix Nix to the init system? Something for NixOS like DMD is for Guix?
<gchristensen> systemd does nicely
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<simpson> ixxie: Sure. It'll be a lot of work.
<ixxie> simpson: I am sure it is, I am just wondering if anybody has toyed with the idea....
<simpson> ixxie: Yes. It looked like a lot of work and I don't have time to commit to more a-lot-of-work projects.
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<clever> philipp[m]: potentialy related, at a glance, i think thats for imperatively made timers, which nixos has probably disabled?
<clever> declarative or bust!
<ixxie> simpson: makes sense
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin opened pull request #22103: apache-kafka service: change default brokerId to -1 (master...automatic-kafka-broker-id) https://git.io/vMNL2
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<ixxie> In the development of a highly modular codebase on NixOS, when does it make sense to use nix packaging as opposed to - say - git modules/subtrees?
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<ixxie> (leaving out for the moment the complication of language specific package managers :P )
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMNqj
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0121066 Vincent Laporte: camlidl: fix build with OCaml 4.03...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2f2fbc9 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.mlgmpidl: init at 1.2.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 67a5833 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.apron: init at 20160125...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22028: Tahoe-LAFS version bump (master...tahoe) https://git.io/vMQDF
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMNYV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d79ea39 rnhmjoj: pdns-recursor: init at 4.0.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6bcf89f rnhmjoj: pdns-recursor: add service
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7516dbe Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22045 from rnhmjoj/recursor...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22066: journalbeat service: init at 5.1.2 (master...journalbeat) https://git.io/vMd4p
<servilio> fpletz: I noticed that Gitlab in stable has fallen behind, would you accept a MR for updating it? anything I should be aware of if I do it?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22069: vagrant: FIX #21365 add libxml2 and libxslt paths (master...vagrant) https://git.io/vMd6a
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aherrmann opened pull request #22104: diagrams: Fix the 1.4.* versions of the ecosystem (master...pr_diagrams) https://git.io/vMNO3
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22070: khd: init at v1.1.4 (master...khd) https://git.io/vMdMK
<fpletz> servilio: thanks for noticing, I've missed that. are you using it with 16.09? it should be just a cherry-pick of the commit
<servilio> fpletz: yes, using it at work
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22072: kwm: init at 4.0.4 (master...kwm) https://git.io/vMd58
<servilio> fpletz: you mean cheery pick from master?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #21915: Somewhat saner cross-compiling through bootstrapping (master...cross-tepid) https://git.io/vMrqK
<fpletz> servilio: yeah, but it's actually easier if I just do it and push it :)
<fpletz> servilio: I think there was even another security update yesterday or today
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22083: pasystray: 0.5.2 -> 0.6.0 (master...pasystray) https://git.io/vMFSO
<servilio> fpletz: :D I won't complain about that, but if I can help in any way... let me know
<servilio> fpletz: yep
<fpletz> servilio: it would be really nice if you would test it :)
<servilio> 8.15.5 and 8.13.15 are out
<fpletz> but I guess that's the point you asked here :P
<fpletz> I'll update gitlab later this evening and push it to 16.09 and ping you
<servilio> that will be fantastic!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22084: opencv: upgrade from 3.1.0 to 3.2.0 (master...opencv-3.2.0) https://git.io/vMFFH
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<servilio> fpletz: thanks!
<fpletz> our gitlab also needs those security updates… :>
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<eacamero_> I want to use security.pam.enableSSHAgentAuth but I've enabled it and I can't figure out how to configure my user and root such that I don't need a password when running sudo.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c99db54 romildo: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 03ba3ed Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22091 from romildo/upd.xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin...
<Sonarpulse-Work> I have two hydra jobs which, for the moment, are identical
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22094: cbatticon: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.5 (master...upd.cbatticon) https://git.io/vMb0e
<Sonarpulse-Work> it seems to be taking some time for one to realize the builds are complete and cached from the other?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22095: munin: 2.0.29 -> 2.0.30 (master...pr-munin) https://git.io/vMbg9
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22097: gnupg21: 2.1.17 -> 2.1.18 (master...update_gnupg21) https://git.io/vMbiV
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<Sonarpulse-Work> hmm, seems to be working?
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<eacameron> I want to use security.pam.enableSSHAgentAuth but I've enabled it and I can't figure out how to configure my user and root such that I don't need a password when running sudo.
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<pxc> so I'm using an old nix install (through a pivot-root) on the computers at my university so I can have some custom packages installed, but I haven't used it in a while so my nix (1.8) is too old to evaluate nixpkgs
<pxc> the instructions nix spits out don't work
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<pxc> can I still grab the newest nix binary from hydra and install it? the links on Hydra are all bad now that everything is stored on S3
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<gchristensen> pxc: if you find the path of it (like /nix/store/hash-name) you can do nix-store -r <thatpath>
<niksnut> pxc: you could try something like: nix-store -r /nix/store/qdkzm17csr24snk247a1s0c47ikq5sl6-nix-1.11.6
<niksnut> that will bypass evaluation
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<nschoe> Hi all, I'm wondering: `nix-garbage-collect` is safe, right? It only deletes paths that are not used by any profiles?
<simpson> nschoe: nix-collect-garbage is safe. Dunno what nix-garbage-collect is.
<pxc> niksnut, gchristensen: thanks. running that now
<nschoe> simpson, yes, sorry I mixed them up.
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<simpson> nschoe: No worries, just trying to be precise.
<nschoe> simpson, they my net question is: is there any reason why this is not run periodically, and automatically by nix? I was going very very low on space, so low in act that I could not update anything anymore, and I ended up deleteing some old generations and run nix-collect-garbage and bah I freed 14GB :-)
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22106: drake: init at 0.9.2.0.3.1 (master...new.drake) https://git.io/vMNWV
<gchristensen> nschoe: you can configure nixos to run nix-collect-garbage regularly
<pxc> niksnut, gchristensen: okay, so after that do I have to do anything additionally to actually install the package? I got a warning that the package might be picked up by garbage collection because I forgot --add-root
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<nschoe> gchristensen, ah! Any link for this?
<dtzWill> nschoe: there's some documentation on having it run automatically, actually! it's pretty useful as long as you are okay potentially re-downloading sources and such if you don't keep roots
<dtzWill> "man configuration.nix" was my first thought, but probably online too :D
<dtzWill> ooo that's neat
<nschoe> OMG, thanks all
<nschoe> Sorry for the trouble he he
<dtzWill> no trouble! :)
<pxc> that nix-store -r command appeared to work but I don't actually see that path under /nix/store now
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<swflint> Corngood: you asked for the lsblk output earlier: http://ix.io/1QWU
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #22107: Somewhat saner cross-compiling through bootstrapping (master...cross-tepid) https://git.io/vMN84
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMN4J
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e38970c Thomas Tuegel: nixos/ibus: fix custom panel example...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 54df142 Thomas Tuegel: nixos/kde5: use kimpanel with IBus by default
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] domenkozar created osx-minimal-version (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vMN41
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/osx-minimal-version 9d4889b Domen Kožar: bail out if osx 10.9 or lower is used during installer
<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] domenkozar opened pull request #1199: Bail out if osx 10.9 or lower is used during installer (master...osx-minimal-version) https://git.io/vMN49
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<fresheyeball> Any idea why this might be happening?
<fresheyeball> ghc-mod: Can't parse "/nix/store/c6l3khjlby4jis6p6wpgjh8pphrf8gqr-ghc-8.0.2-with-packages/lib/ghc-8.0.2/platformConstants"
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<jophish> fresheyeball: your ghc-mod version and ghc version do not match
<jophish> what does ghc-mod --version say?
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<fresheyeball> jophish: just figure it out
<fresheyeball> you are right
<fresheyeball> figured*
<fresheyeball> is there a way I can install ghc-mod globally with a specific version of ghc?
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<jophish> fresheyeball: haskell.packages.ghc802.ghc-mod # to install with ghc802
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<fresheyeball> jophish: you rock!
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<corngood> swflint: thanks. What fs type is /? Did you get a chance to try a new kernel?
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<fresheyeball> jophish: so I am getting this error now
<fresheyeball> Setup: Encountered missing dependencies:
<fresheyeball> directory >=1.1.0.2 && <1.3
<fresheyeball> builder for ‘/nix/store/1y7bv67qb6n2gw8qfvnszl7l2lchzs2v-cabal-helper-0.7.2.0.drv’ failed with exit code 1
<fresheyeball> cannot build derivation ‘/nix/store/jnw6q3jn14nzsn3kb2ngxvizpkh6v6xd-ghc-mod-5.6.0.0.drv’: 1 dependencies couldn't be built
<fresheyeball> error: build of ‘/nix/store/jnw6q3jn14nzsn3kb2ngxvizpkh6v6xd-ghc-mod-5.6.0.0.drv’ failed
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yorickvP opened pull request #22108: i3status: 2.10 -> 2.11 (master...master) https://git.io/vMNgW
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<domenkozar> heh
<cutuchiqueno> yesterday @goibhniu helped me to change a forgotten root password on a machine which I haven't used for a long time and asked me if I could move wiki sec 'Help, I locked myself out!' with my additions to the manual
<swflint> Corngood: ext4, switched kernel, works better now
<cutuchiqueno> There is no ticket for this wiki section
<cutuchiqueno> should I just open one or do it without creating such a ticket?
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<domenkozar> fresheyeball: are you using master?
<fresheyeball> domenkozar: what do you mean (sorry very new to nix)
<corngood> swflint: sweet. Better as in how you'd expect for the hardware?
<domenkozar> fresheyeball: what command are you usin
<fresheyeball> nix-env -f "<nixpkgs>" -iA haskell.packages.ghc802.ghc-mod
<swflint> Corngood: yep. Works great now. Just have to pull everything else in. Is there a way to use a specific channel for a specific package?
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<jophish> fresheyeball: looks as though cabal-helper isn't building at the moment.
<domenkozar> fresheyeball: for ghc802 you'll need to wait a bit for peti to update hackage packages
<domenkozar> there is new cabal-helper release that fixes directory contraint
<domenkozar> constraint*
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<kier[web]> does hdparm work on nixos?
<yorick> kier[web]: yes
<kier[web]> it seems to be available in nixpkgs but its having no effect on my disks
<fresheyeball> domenkozar: lame...
<yorick> kier[web]: what do you mean?
<domenkozar> fresheyeball: you can fix it yourself though
<kier[web]> i'm attempting to change my spindown time (as it seems to have defaulted to 5 seconds for one of my disks) by using hdparm -S 60 /dev/sda
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<kier[web]> oh never mind, was using the wrong option all along :p
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<fresheyeball> domenkozar: how would I go about that?
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<swflint> Hopefully this is my last major problem. The touchpad isn't working.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #22107: Somewhat saner cross-compiling through bootstrapping (master...cross-tepid) https://git.io/vMN84
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<swflint> So, how do I get a touchpad working?
<mguentner> swflint: try services.xserver.synaptics.enable = true;
<swflint> Set. The touchscreen works, but the touchpad does not
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] goetzst opened pull request #22109: youtube-dl: 2017.01.22 -> 2017.01.24 (master...youtube-dl) https://git.io/vMNoY
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 3 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMNoF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 0e92a0a Eelco Dolstra: nss: 3.27.2 -> 3.28.1...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 9cb5503 taku0: firefox: 50.1.0 -> 51.0, firefox-esr: 45.6.0esr -> 45.7.0esr...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 efcc13d Vladimír Čunát: firefox: pick the API key from nixpkgs master...
<lassulus> swflint: did you restart your session? I think the xserver needs to be restarted for synaptics changes
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<fpletz> servilio: I've upgraded our gitlab instance to 8.16.1 successfully :)
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<servilio> fpletz: sweet
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMN6g
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c9d5e5b Franz Pletz: gitlab: 8.15.4 -> 8.16.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMN6b
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 4ad684b Franz Pletz: gitlab: 8.13.5 -> 8.15.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 c19eedd Franz Pletz: gitlab: 8.15.4 -> 8.16.1...
<fpletz> servilio: and there is the backport to 16.09
<servilio> fpletz: thanks a lot!
<LnL> what's up with the mass rebuild?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shdpl opened pull request #22110: pydub: 0.16.7 (master...pydub) https://git.io/vMNid
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<swflint> Okay, I have services.xserver.synaptics.enable set to true, but the touchpad does not work, only the touchscreen.
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<swflint> What can I do?
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<romildo_> I am going to submit a PR to update mkvtoolnix, but it depends on PR #22106 (drake: init at 0.9.2.0.3.1), because mkvtoolnix does not bundle drake anymore.
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<gchristensen> sounds good romildo_, make a note about the dependency in the PR
<avn> Are zfs boot/root require copying kernels to /efi?
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<shd> what's the right way to create /var/lib/* directory for state in nixos module?
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<romildo_> gchristensen, ok. I was not sure if I would have to wait for the drake PR being merged.
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<shd> would like to fix it but i'm not sure whether i should simply mkdir in module, or there's better way?
<swflint> How can I enable a touchpad and disable a touchscreen?
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<xwvvvvwx> Hey :)
<xwvvvvwx> So I'm trying to package polybar
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<xwvvvvwx> which has wireless tools as an optional dependency
<xwvvvvwx> and when I run nox wireless-tools, I see that nixos.wirelesstools exists
<xwvvvvwx> but when I add wirelesstools to my buildInputs and try to run the build I get: error: undefined variable ‘wirelesstools’
<gchristensen> do you have wirelesstools in the function declaration?
<xwvvvvwx> urgh
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<xwvvvvwx> yes that works
<xwvvvvwx> I was being stupid
<xwvvvvwx> thank you
<xwvvvvwx> I cannot tell you how many times I have made that mistake
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<gchristensen> :)
<propumpkin> offlinehacker, cstrahan: you around? trying to update fluentd and can't remember the bundler/gem magic: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/tools/misc/fluentd
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<dtz> hmm, I'm trying to create a derivation for a swift project (:D)-- current problem is fetching the project and it's dependencies ahead of time... .. Any folks familiar with these things (swift) or how we handle it for other languages that can give me some advice/pointers on doing this sanely? :)
<dtz> there's a "swift package fetch" thing to fetch deps but I guess I'd have to make my own fetcher thing for that?
<maurer> dtz: You could look at what buildRustPackage does for cargo stuff
<dtz> great, I'll take a look thank you! :)
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<propumpkin> pikajude: do you do anything with nix ruby nowadays?
<pikajude> nope
<pikajude> i haven't touched ruby in long time
<propumpkin> boo
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22111: mkvtoolnix: 9.6.0 -> 9.8.0 (master...upd.mkvtoolnix) https://git.io/vMNyk
<LnL> propumpkin: what about it?
<pikajude> sorry
<propumpkin> pikajude: hah np
<propumpkin> LnL: trying to update a ruby package in nixpkgs (fluentd) and can't figure out how to update the gemfile.lock. If I use the nixpkgs bundler, `bundler package --no-install` just complains and fails
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<propumpkin> oh
<propumpkin> bundler lock seems to do something promising
<LnL> complains with what?
<propumpkin> "An error occurred while installing cool.io (1.4.5), and Bundler cannot continue."
<propumpkin> but `bundler lock` updated the lockfile
<propumpkin> now bundix is complaining instead :) but I made it farther
<LnL> by the way, any idea why a build might be failing with -lIOKit
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shdpl opened pull request #22112: syncthing: create dataDir on PreStart (master...syncthing) https://git.io/vMNyX
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<propumpkin> LnL: I wouldn't expect -lIOKit to ever work
<propumpkin> it should be -framework IOKit
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<LnL> yeah I was wondering that, but I can't find where it's coming from
* LnL doesn't understand cmake
<propumpkin> does anyone? :)
<gchristensen> _can_ anyone? :)
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<propumpkin> :)
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<LnL> I think I found it, but I get missing symbols now
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<avn> `tank/zroot on / type zfs (rw,relatime,xattr,noacl)` it boots ;)
<avn> also I found interesting layout for mirroring boot /boot/{sda,sdb}/{grub,efi}
<LnL> hopefully it's a bit more stable now
<avn> LnL: not sure, but it the way to removing md+lvm from under
<avn> also I can kill old nixos volume with btrfs, and pass space to tank as well
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22113: jwm: 1563 -> 1575 (master...upd.jwm) https://git.io/vMNHk
<avn> I feel whole lvm should be addresssed to pool, before I start moving it to physical device
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMNHc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b299e50 Dan Peebles: fluentd: 0.14.0 -> 0.14.11, with more plugins...
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<avn> most interesting question, what grub-efi-zfs will load/search first after degrading md, and mirror tank to real hd parition
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<propumpkin> offlinehacker, cstrahan: false alarm, figured out how to do it :)
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<propumpkin> was actually very easy
<LnL> jeeze, this thing depends on the world
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shdpl closed pull request #22112: syncthing: create dataDir on PreStart (master...syncthing) https://git.io/vMNyX
<propumpkin> LnL: what does?
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22113: jwm: 1563 -> 1575 (master...upd.jwm) https://git.io/vMNHk
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMNQX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a0d29cf romildo: drake: init at 0.9.2.0.3.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c915fd6 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22106 from romildo/new.drake...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #22114: OCaml 4.04 (master...ocaml-4.04) https://git.io/vMNQS
<LnL> propumpkin: cmus
<LnL> it has support flags for everything
<avn> woohoo, ocaml 4.04 ;)
<propumpkin> nice
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22111: mkvtoolnix: 9.6.0 -> 9.8.0 (master...upd.mkvtoolnix) https://git.io/vMNyk
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c closed pull request #22108: i3status: 2.10 -> 2.11 (master...master) https://git.io/vMNgW
<guillaum2> Do you know how I can install gnutls 32 bit version on a 64 bit nixos install ? I need it to play some games with wine.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMN7m
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 348a91c Stefan Götz: youtube-dl: 2017.01.22 -> 2017.01.24
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 047f906 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22109 from goetzst/youtube-dl...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMN7s
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fa8f6f6 Mariusz `shd` Gliwiński: pydub: 0.16.7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ba603d0 Michael Raskin: Merge pull request #22110 from shdpl/pydub...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 7c6f434c pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMN7F
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ae04751 Vincent Laporte: ocaml: init at 4.04
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f697e5a Vincent Laporte: camlp4: init at 4.04+1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0caeaf4 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.ppx_tools: minor refactoring
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #22104: diagrams: Fix the 1.4.* versions of the ecosystem (master...pr_diagrams) https://git.io/vMNO3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #22115: terminology: 0.9.1 -> 1.0.0 (master...upd.terminology) https://git.io/vMNFv
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #22116: cmus: fix darwin (master...darwin-cmus) https://git.io/vMNFE
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 closed pull request #14204: cmus: add gcc build dep for darwin (master...master) https://git.io/vajaY
<LnL> fpletz: you updated gitlab before I even received the announcement email :)
<swflint> How can I get both a touchpad and a touchscreen working?
<corngood> Did you get either working individually?
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<swflint> Yeah, the touchscreen.
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<corngood> I'm probably not much help, since I have neither. Did you try the config snippet for enabling synaptics that someone else posted?
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<swflint> Yep. Tried libinput too. Should I try both?
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<corngood> You haven't got any input from the touchpad in any configuration?
<swflint> Nope.
<swflint> And they can't both be enabled.
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<corngood> Arch wiki pages for libinput, touchscreen, touchpad have some good troubleshooting info. For example, take a look at `/proc/bus/input/devices`
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<corngood> Then maybe `libinput-list-devices `
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<corngood> Just want to make sure it's supported in your kernel first
<swflint> Well, the device list only shows the touchscreen.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg opened pull request #22117: Aarch64 (ARM64) support (master...aarch64-for-merge) https://git.io/vMNpA
<gchristensen> !m Dezgeg
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, Dezgeg!
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<Unode> Is there any reason why running "su -" would give me a bad terminal (unless I override TERM=xterm): http://dpaste.com/2S0KCSK while "su" works fine? I'm using urxvt and have http://dpaste.com/3H18VEE set on my configuration.nix
<swflint> Well that's peachy.
<swflint> Any idea what to do with that, corngood?
<corngood> swflint: there are other threads with more positive results. It might need synaptics
<swflint> Okay. What then?
<Unode> and on a different note, how do I change the resolution of the linux console? I've set boot.loaded.grub.gfxmodeEfi = "1024x768" but it doesn't seem to produce an effect.
<corngood> Unode: other distros have an 'extended terminfo' package with those missing terminfo files. If you install urxvt to the system it should work
<Unode> I'm not sure about the "Efi" part of it.
<Unode> corngood: the thing is, it seems to work fine on my regular user. It only breaks when I "su -".
<corngood> Did you install urxvt to your user environment?
<Unode> no, systemwide
<Unode> i.e. configuration.nix
<corngood> Hmm, should be able to find the terminfo files then. It's in systemPackages?
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<Unode> corngood: yes
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<Unode> rxvt_unicode to be precise
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<corngood> swflint: I think you'll need to turn on synaptics. Could you do that, restart x, and post your xorg log? There should be something in there about synaptics devices
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #22118: ghc-8.0.2: remove unused fetchFilteredPatch function (master...ghc802-cleanup) https://git.io/vMAv1
<corngood> Unode: I can reproduce the terminfo problem on mine. in the su shell `TERMINFO_DIRS=/root/.nix-profile/share/terminfo:/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/share/terminfo:/run/current-system/sw/share/terminfo`, and `/run/current-system/sw/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-unicode-256color` exists
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] trofi opened pull request #1201: mk: add support for passing LDFLAGS to libs and bins (master...master) https://git.io/vMAfx
<Unode> corngood: so do you see this as a bug?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] trofi opened pull request #1202: Makefile.config.in: drop unused bsddiff_compat_include (master...no-bsddiff_compat_include) https://git.io/vMAJr
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<corngood> You should probably open an issue on nixpkgs if there isn't one already
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<Unode> sounds good.
<corngood> Can you tag @Corngood when you do it? I'll add whatever info I can gather
<Unode> and 2 hours ago someone patched it :)
<Unode> talking about timing... I had this issue for over 2 months and was working around it by setting TERM=xterm on root's rc file
<Guest33668> Is there anyone that is getting continuous "curl: (35) SSL connect error" when doing imperative installs (e.g. nix-env -f somepath -iA python3.5-lektor)
<Unode> oh wait what was patched was on another repository. But anyway, the workaround in the comment works for me. Can you confirm corngood ?
<corngood> Unode: ah, so it's zsh specific
<Unode> seems like it. I assume you are also using zsh by default
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<corngood> yeah
<Unode> now if only I could do the same to my fonts issue :)
<Unode> http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=111638 on too many websites to count
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<Unode> playing with fontconfig settings doesn't seem to help. Firefox seems to get a few more fonts right so it happens on less websites but it still does happen.
<swflint> Corngood: here's what I get for synaptics: http://i.imgur.com/YzaIfJF.jpg
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<Unode> corngood: thanks for the help. pointed me in the right direction.
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<Unode> usually when I have something others can't reproduce it's harder to get by (such is the case with the fonts).
<corngood> np, turns out I had the same problem, so it's nice to get that fixed
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<corngood> swflint: if you're online, you can paste logs by piping them to `curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io` instead of sending pics
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<swflint> Corngood: will do.
<corngood> I would try `grep -i` to be safe. maybe post the complete log with just libinput as well?
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<corngood> there's also `config.hardware.trackpoint.enable`, which might be worth trying. also, anything in `lsusb` that sounds touchpad-ish?
<swflint> Ix.io/1QYd
<shanemikel> is there something like a "nix shell hook".. that is, a way after the shell environment has loaded, that I can say, now go ahead and source my ~/.nixbashrc ?
<swflint> Lsusb: ix.io/1QYe
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<corngood> swflint: that xorg log is with synaptics? everything is using evdev for input
<swflint> As far as I know, yes.
<shanemikel> I'm actually overriding NIX_BUILD_SHELL as it is, and pointing it to a script that execs /usr/bin/env bash with --rcfile ~/.nixbashrc ... but I just realized that's causing some problems.. with environment variables
<corngood> ok, well try that trackpoint option, and post the log using the libinput driver, but I don't see anything so far that indicates the touchpad is being found by the kernel
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<shanemikel> the problem is: I'd like to clear my environment *before* nix sets it up, and then source my ~/.nixbashrc
<swflint> The trackpoint setting didn't help.
<Unode> for the thunderbird+enigmail users in the room. Do you have any problem signing/(de)encrypting messages? Do you see a pinentry window if a message needs to be decrypted or an immediate failure? If you open the keychain externally can you see the decrypted message?
<corngood> shanemikel: there's a shell hook, for `nix-shell`, I think
<swflint> Ix.io/1QYh and ix.io/1QYi
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<shachaf> It looks like Nix is having trouble building a package on CentOS 6 without support for user namespaces.
<shachaf> Is it possible to do that?
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