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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #21869: pyroute2: init at 0.4.12 (master...pyroute2) https://git.io/vMVth
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #21870: gdm: init at 1.4 (master...gdm) https://git.io/vMVqn
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #21871: manul: init at 2016-09-30 (master...manul) https://git.io/vMVqE
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #21872: strongswan: enable charon-systemd (master...feat-charon-systemd) https://git.io/vMVqh
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 opened pull request #21873: Dependencies for realms-wiki (master...python-packages) https://git.io/vMVmv
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21867: kubernetes-helm: 2.1.2 -> 2.1.3 (master...kubernetes-helm-v2.1.3) https://git.io/vMVeX
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21863: google-talk-plugin: 5.41.0.0 -> 5.41.3.0 (master...bump/google-talk-plugin) https://git.io/vMaXG
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<shlevy> Sonarpulse: Review ongoing
<Sonarpulse> shlevy: cool!
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<shlevy> Sonarpulse: I can't wait to use this :)
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<Sonarpulse> shlevy: :D
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<Sonarpulse> shlevy: so what you think about breaking packages?
<Sonarpulse> shlevy: DavidEGrayson says he's busy with other stuff momentarily
<Sonarpulse> shlevy: and so while I talked big on thorough testing earlier
<Sonarpulse> part of me wants to merge this stencil in place, and then fix packages piecemail
<Sonarpulse> with the stencil, fixing packages should be much easier for lots of people as it's wayy less arcane
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<shlevy> Sonarpulse: +1
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<Sonarpulse> shlevy: ;) move fast and break things!
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<justanotheruser> what is the "correct" way of installing a library that isn't available through the official channels
<johnw> make your own expression, reference it from configuration.nix by path?
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<justanotheruser> can I get an example of such an expression
<johnw> i don't have such an expression handy right now
<justanotheruser> thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar opened pull request #21875: Allow specifying interface for default gateway (master...gateway-interface) https://git.io/vMVnG
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy opened pull request #21876: ghc with-packages-wrapper: Add support for cross-compiling (master...ghcWithPackages-cross) https://git.io/vMVnH
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<sheenobu> hrm. nixos keeps trying to install x libraries on my server
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<sheenobu> was able to sound.enable = false and others to get rid of that stuff
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sheenobu opened pull request #21877: caddy: add package config option (master...nixos/caddy/custom-pkg) https://git.io/vMVW1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMV4M
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e00c61f Tuomas Tynkkynen: gnused: Fix cross build after upgrade to 4.3.0...
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<DavidEGrayson> Ack, SonarPulse, there is quite a lot of junk in the GCC 5 recipe. If you look into what "libc_dev" is and what "is64Bit" it seems like stuff we totally don't need for a cross-compiler.
<DavidEGrayson> Just wanted to vent, that's all. I'm getting rid of it by making my own, clean GCC recipes :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21877: caddy: add package config option (master...nixos/caddy/custom-pkg) https://git.io/vMVW1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] gebner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVgV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5ad7555 Gabriel Ebner: lean: 2017-01-06 -> 2017-01-14
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rvl opened pull request #21878: haskellPackages.lentil: override dep versions (master...master) https://git.io/vMVgK
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21869: pyroute2: init at 0.4.12 (master...pyroute2) https://git.io/vMVth
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<sphalerite> what does it mean when nix-store --query --hash says that a path is not valid?
<bennofs1> sphalerite: that means that the path you've given it is not stored in the nix database i think
<pierron> domenkozar: would it be possible to take the first version of overlays, as-is?
<sphalerite> bennofs1: can it be in /nix/store without being in the database?
<pierron> domenkozar: instead of providing all the tooling from the fresh start
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<pierron> domenkozar: I am sorry, but I do not have a large amount of time to dedicate to projects, and if you don't want good changes, then we should not block them on perfection.
* pierron barely had the time to write a simple script that the PR already bit-rot :/
<sphalerite> There must be a better way (find out the amount of space that nix-store --gc would free)... sum=0; nix-store --gc --print-dead | xargs du --max-depth=0 | cut -d $'\t' -f 1 | while read add ; do ((sum+=add)) ; done ; echo $((sum/1024))
<sphalerite> Anyone?
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<bennofs> Is the nixpkgs monitor down?
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<pierron> sphalerite: --dry-run ?
<sphalerite> error: bad sub-operation ‘--dry-run’ in GC
<pierron> sphalerite: nix-store --gc --print-dead | xargs du -hc | tail -n1
<sphalerite> Much neater!
<pierron> ixxie: sounds sadly familiar
<sphalerite> what's wrong with irc?
<sphalerite> :D
<ixxie> nothing wrong witht he protocol, maybe the markup conventions could move forward though ^^
<srhb> ixxie: Have you never written an IRC client? :-P
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<ixxie> srhb: working on it, kinda....
<srhb> ixxie: I was joking, sorry. I meant to imply that people tend to not say "nothing wrong with the protocol" :-P
<sphalerite> I won't comment the technical details of the protocol, but it's certainly established and widely supported as well as providing all the key functionality needed for many use cases.
<sphalerite> why does gcc take so long to compile :(
<bennofs> sphalerite: wait till you compile libreoffice *cough*
<ixxie> aha xD well nothing seems wrong with it to me as a user of it.... I am sure its not perfect.
<sphalerite> bennofs: the day I have to compile libreoffice is the day I lose all hope
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<Heffalump> if I'm updating a simple PR for code review comments, should I amend the commit or add a new one?
<ixxie> hmmm.... if something is nonfree, I cannot bundle it as a distribution as binary; but can I include it, for example, in a nixos configuration file, and distribute *that*?
<sternenseemann> ixxie: you can enable nonfree packages and make a package that uses a binary
<sternenseemann> Heffalump: ammend & force push to your branch
<Heffalump> sternenseemann: thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #21879: Coq: minor refactoring (master...coq-clean) https://git.io/vMVr7
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<Chattered> I'm trying to patchelf a steam game, but I'm not sure what argument to provide to --set-interpreter. Any help?
<sternenseemann> Chattered: why don't you launch it from steam directly? the steam-chroot approach makes sure that the steam runtime just works™
<Chattered> It's Civ5. It won't launch from Steam. Some Archlinux folk said they could get the game to work by running it directly, so I thought I'd try that.
<sternenseemann> you'll have a hard time on nixos most likely because it is dynamically linked and probably searches for all sorts of stuff in /usr/lib
<manveru> Chattered: what's the error?
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<Chattered> manveru: Two secs. Having to update steam etc to check.
<manveru> lemme try it on steam... download is going to take 1h30 or so
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<manveru> i think it worked for me in the past, but can't say 100% for certain
<manveru> otherwise it's better to patch steam/steam-run to make it work
<manveru> so everyone benefits :)
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<pierron> Chattered: the argument of set-interpreter is the elf reader, see patchelf --print-interpreter $(which patchelf)
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<pierron> Chattered: I highly recommend you to make a copy of the binary before using patchelf ;)
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<Chattered> pierron: Cheers. I've got rsnapshot for backups anyway.
<bennofs> Does anyone know what the current state of the new nix cli is?
<bennofs> I have a bit of spare time right now, so if there's still missing bits I could perhaps look to implement them
<joko> Hello, could anyone help me with Hydra and supportedFeatures? I am overriding coreutils with requiredSystemFeatures and Hydra still sends the job to a machine without the supportedFeature :/
<manveru> bennofs: last i heard there were 3 PRs left
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<Chattered> manveru: All I see is "ERROR: ld.so object '[..]/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ...) ignored.
<manveru> yeah, that's not the error
<manveru> that happens for every game
<toogley> how can i fix this ptpb.pw/pbad error which occurs while upgrading?
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<sphalerite> Chattered manveru: I'll try it too, also need to download it first. Want to play a round if we all get it working? :P
<toogley> the package which was downloaded the last was hunspell - which i don't need (i think it was installed by some other program as dependency). can i ignore/exclude that to install?
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<sphalerite> can I give nix-shell a derivation rather than an expression?
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<dbe> Can you override propagatedBuildInputs?
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<qknight> how can i write the duplicated exports from buildPhase and shellHook only once? https://nopaste.me/view/e2649a52
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<qknight> i don't want to have duplicated code
<pierron> qknight: these are environment variables, so just make a new one, and eval it inside the others?
<qknight> pierron: don't understand
<pierron> qknight: or add a let above, and expand the common part in both.
<qknight> pierron: yes, i thought about this as well but i don't know how to do it
<sphalerite> dbe: Should be possible using pkgs.lib.overrideDerivation. Not sure if it's necessary to use that though
<pierron> qknight: let a = "aaa"; in … buildPhase = "…${a}…"; shellHook = "…${a}…"; …
<sphalerite> so pkgs.lib.overrideDerivation (package) (attrs: {propagatedBuildInputs = attrs.propagatedBuildInputs ++ [yourExtraPropagatedBuildInputs];})
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<qknight> pierron: exactly!
<pierron> qknight: I do not understand your question then
<qknight> pierron: no, you already solved it and understood it correctly! thanks so much!
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<chris|> I am trying to run nixos-install from a chroot (as described by the wiki) but it's always stuck at error: opening file ‘/etc/nix/nix.conf’: No such file or directory. Any idea why that is happening?
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<qknight> chris|: nix-build probably wants that file and you don't have it
<qknight> chris|: just use: touch /etc/nix/nix.conf
<qknight> chris|: it is usually created automatically when doing nixos-install IIRC
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<qknight> # WARNING: this file is generated from the nix.* options in
<qknight> # your NixOS configuration, typically
<qknight> # /etc/nixos/configuration.nix. Do not edit it!
<qknight> chris|: so you can add a nix option in your /etc/nixos/configuration.nix, reevaluate that with: nixos-rebuild switch and afterwards a symlink in /etc/nix/nix.conf -> /nix/store/something should exist
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<chris|> hm, looks like the symlink in /mnt/etc/nix/nix.conf cannot be resolved during nixos-install, which i find quite odd
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<bennofs> manveru: ah I was wondering abount the new nix UI rather than the perl removal
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<qknight> bennofs: which new UI?
<bennofs> sphalerite: you can give nix-shell a derivation, but the way to do that is quite arcane: you have to give it a *absolute* path that ends with .drv as argument (note that relative paths don't work)
<sphalerite> bennofs: cool, thanks!
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl closed pull request #21865: solc: 0.4.6 -> 0.4.8 (master...solc) https://git.io/vMabK
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<manveru> Chattered: well, civ 5 starts at least
<manveru> and i can play it
<manveru> using steam from 16.09
<gchristensen> good morning #nixos
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<sphalerite> Is there a way to export a closure as a tar archive or something, so that I can copy it to a machine that has no nix at all?
<srhb> sphalerite: You can use nix-store --dump on a store path at least. It sounds tricky to ever use it on a non-Nix system gain though
<sphalerite> I just realised I can use nix-store -qR (path) | xargs tar cf output.tar
<philipp[m]> manveru: Civ 5 starts? That's interesting. What drivers do you use?
<manveru> nvidia
<philipp[m]> manveru: Do you happen to have Borderlonds 2 and can start it also?
<sphalerite> srhb: If I copy the nix closure using that method I should be able to run it, no?
<manveru> philipp[m]: yes
<manveru> but i have to go to steam offline mode first, it crashes when trying to find DLCs otherwise
<sphalerite> srhb: just tried doing so with hello and it worked, I don't see why it wouldn't also work with nix
<philipp[m]> manveru: many people have library problems with those games, so they don't start at all. We have been trying to find out what was causing it but couldn't nail it down.
<gchristensen> sphalerite: it is indeed how we install nix :)
<manveru> the only game i really have problems with is metro 2033 (redux)
<sphalerite> gchristensen: nice
<manveru> i get to the game menu, but can't start the campaign :(
<philipp[m]> manveru: I'm not at my computer right now but I'll ask you a few questions later.
<sphalerite> gchristensen: I also like how I can do that with closures that are for a different architecture than that one I'm building on
<manveru> philipp[m]: k
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVPs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a04337d Vincent Laporte: smplayer: 16.1.0 -> 16.11.0
<Chattered> manveru: Hmm...okay. It might just be my setup then.
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<Chattered> I'm using the open-source radeon drivers. And I'm on xmonad without a desktop manager.
<Chattered> Thanks for checking it out.
<manveru> i'm on i3, but yes, radeon has nothing but trouble... that's why i only buy nvidia for linux machines
<Chattered> The Half Life games work at least.
<sphalerite> my experience with nvidia is crap too, which is why I like to stick to intel... :D
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<unlmtd[m]> anyone using mopidy with spotify or soundcloud? No success, except soundcloud search, but doesnt play
<sphalerite> awww I was getting excited too early about the whole cross-build thing working
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<unlmtd[m]> no wonder everyone uses the browser as their OS; nothing works
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<unlmtd[m]> ahh not quite. xmonad works
<bennofs> unlmtd[m]: as long as you don't use xmonad's tabbed layout or android emulator :D
<gchristensen> might be because spotify works hard to keep people using their player
<bennofs> (well, tabbed layout is in xmonad-contrib tbf)
<gchristensen> I'm surprised a license-free aficionado such as your self is using spotify :)
<unlmtd[m]> android emulator?
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<unlmtd[m]> gchristensen: im not developing it
<bennofs> android emulator is used for android dev and was quite bugged on xmonad (resizing/moving didn't work well)
<unlmtd[m]> ohh I getya
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<unlmtd[m]> I already said I dont case about licences
<unlmtd[m]> I just wont spend time developing code that some people wont use for fear of litigation costs
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<MichaelRaskin> Re: android + xmonad: AWT_TOOKIT=MToolkit _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1 sometimes helps with Java + tiling WMs
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<unlmtd[m]> > He that writes in blood and proverbs does not want to be read, but learnt by heart.
<unlmtd[m]> ~ Nietzsche
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVXo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d535b2d Vincent Laporte: smtube: 16.1.0 -> 16.7.2
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<philipp[m]> Chattered: for many games you need to delete the included stdlibc. Conflicts with the newer version needed for new Radeon drivers.
<Chattered> philipp[m]: I have "steam = pkgs.steam.override { newStdcpp = true; };" in my config.nix. Is that enough?
<Chattered> Oh, hang on. You mean I have to delete the shared objects in the game dir?
<philipp[m]> Chattered: Yes, sometimes that helps.
<philipp[m]> Sometimes you have to add a lib to the steam runtime also.
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<philipp[m]> Unfortunately steam supports newer versions of mesa very poorly.
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<sphalerite> :( nix being written in C++11 is now making my life complicated
<gchristensen> how so?
<sphalerite> it won't compile with the cross-compiler toolchain I have here
<sphalerite> because it doesn't know about std::to_string
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<gchristensen> ah
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<sphalerite> manveru Chattered: fwiw civ5 runs fine for me too, on intel graphics
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVM6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4e88fe4 Vincent Laporte: grass: fix build
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<philipp[m]> The radeon drivers are fine now. Their glibc requirements and valves reluctance to update their glibc is the problem.
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<aklt> hi all
<gchristensen> hi, aklt!
<aklt> I am trying to install something vis from source, but I cannot find ncurses with pkg-config, halp!
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<aklt> hi gchristensen!
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<aklt> There is no .pc file for ncurses it seems and I am wondering what to do next
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mguentner opened pull request #21880: services: ipfs: add emptyRepo option, refactor (master...ipfs_empty_repo) https://git.io/vMVDS
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<gchristensen> aklt: may I ask more about what you're doing and how you're going about it?
<aklt> gchristensen: Yes, of course! I would like to build vis from source, so i am trying to do that with th usual ./configure && make, etc.
<aklt> gchristensen: but I am stuck at vis not being able to find ncurses.
<aklt> gchristensen: with nix-shell -p ncurses pkgconfig, I still cannot find ncurses with pkg-config
<aklt> It seems there have been similar issues before, or maybe a variant of this problem
<gchristensen> ah! yes, so frequently the standard ./configure, make, etc. steps don't always work quite so well out of the box, but our tooling usually makes up for it. can you link me to the project?
<gchristensen> oh, also, we seem to have it packaged already -- is that not what you want?
<aklt> gchristensen: I would really prefer to follow the development via the git repo for this package since development is quite active atm
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVyn
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7d75dd7 Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.coq-ext-lib: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.{4,5}
<srhb> aklt: The definition in nixpkgs actually takes a revision and a sha256 hash as arguments, does that not work with newer versions?
<aklt> srhb: I just had a look at the file and yes, I could probably go that route if I make sure to replace the hash with the correct value each time
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVyN
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d241394 Bjørn Forsman: nixos/prometheus: add configText option for alertmanager...
<aklt> srhb: It is just a hassle atm, but a script could probably help.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor closed pull request #21850: nixos/prometheus: add configText option for alertmanager (master...prometheus) https://git.io/vM2mo
<srhb> aklt: Otherwise you can retrofit that expression for your own shell.nix file
<gchristensen> aklt: another way you could do it is override the src to be a local checkout
<LnL> gchristensen: by playing around with hydra I realised that you can just parameterise the packages you want to build
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<aklt> srhb, gchristensen: cool those are ideas I hadn't considered, I will try to make a copy of vis/default.nix and use that for a build
<LnL> so my idea of using hydra on my test machine doesn't seem all that crazy
<srhb> aklt: gchristensen's suggestion is better than mine, use that. ;-)
<aklt> But is thre not still an issue with "pkc-config ncurses" not working?
<aklt> srhb: Thanks, will do ;)
<srhb> aklt: The nix expression (probably) takes care of setting all that up.
<srhb> Unless something changed recently. :)
<srhb> aklt: The idea is that the necessary environment only exists for that package, not globally (or locally) for your user.
<gchristensen> aklt: you can use : (pkgs.vis.overrideDerivation (orig: { src = ./your-local-checkout; })) in your configuration.nix or shell.nix and you won't have .pc issues
<aklt> srhb: in this case it probably wields some magic, but there are other cases where a user might want to run pkg-config ncurses, but nnot within a nix expression?
<srhb> aklt: You can, but you'll be walking down a road that leads to a lot of pain and strips a lot of the Nix benefits.
<aklt> gchristensen: cool, thanks! I will follow that route
<gchristensen> aklt: to get the .pc in a nix-shell you can add ncurses.dev
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<aklt> srhb: I am not suggesting this as a route for installing packages, but for devs,.. ah! gchristensen just answered my concern ;)
<srhb> Even for devs, it's usually better to whip up that nix expression in my experience. :)
<gchristensen> srhb: perhaps provide an example of shell.nix / nix-shell
<aklt> I agree that using nix expressions is the best, but it is not always possible or convenient
<srhb> All mine are for Haskell dev environments, I'm afraid.
<aklt> I had some issues with some lua packages installed via luarocks a while ago. It uses a compiler and assumes presence of some libraries
<srhb> aklt: OK, it's just my opinion anyway. :-) Make the best of what you like.
<abbradar> aklt: in case you want to play around with vis's source code you can do `nix-shell -A vis '<nixpkgs>'` in vis's source directory
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<gchristensen> aklt: if you have a shell.nix like: https://gist.github.com/grahamc/47356829f2ba777bf440fa0e190cab7a and you go in the dir and do `nix-shell` it'll put you in an env with the ncurses .pc files
<aklt> srhb: I agree with you a long way ;)
<abbradar> it'll get you to a shell with all vis's dependencies from our package and environment set up for building
<aklt> abbradar: ah, that's new to me, thanks
<aklt> gchristensen: aha, that's nice to know! I assume that is the nix expression way of doing what abbradar suggested?
<aklt> Nice to learn something new!
<gchristensen> well it is the same thing, practically
<abbradar> the difference is that you use something that we already have in nixpkgs instead of writing it by hand
<abbradar> but if you want to e.g. change something, add dependencies etc. it may be more convenient to use stand-alone shell.nix like this one
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVSz
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f537f84 Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.flocq: 2.5.1 -> 2.5.2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ehmry pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVSw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2fe19b1 Emery Hemingway: clerk: fix version string
<aklt> abbradar: that;s reasonable. It is nice to have files with build environments set up.
<aklt> l
<aklt> gchristensen, abbradar: I just tried your suggestions, but pkg-config still cannot find ncurses... I wonder if I am doing something wrong
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<aklt> Hmm, apparently I have something strange in my environment. I tried running a different shell and in that ./configure was able to find ncurses, but pkg-config still cannot
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<aklt> anyway, thannks for your help
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<abbradar> aklt: I cannot reproduce this: `pkg-config --cflags ncurses` works for me in `nix-shell -A vis`
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<aklt> abbradar: abbradarL I think I found out that I have something that is interfering in my environment
<aklt> abbradar: using nix-shell --pure '<nixpkgs>' -A vis
<aklt> abbradar: pkg-config --cflags also works for me, joy!
<aklt> So --pure did the trick... maybe my path is strange, hmm
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<pierron> domenkozar: Thanks for answering on the PR :)
<abbradar> aklt: hm, strange -- not sure what could be the reason
<abbradar> any way, good that it's solved ^_^
<aklt> yes, thanks! ^=^
<Sonarpulse> shlevy: thanks!
<Sonarpulse> is there a way to force a recheck?
<Sonarpulse> rather than waiting for the next poll?
<shlevy> Sonarpulse: I can, which one?
<Sonarpulse> cross-tepid
<Sonarpulse> well
<Sonarpulse> I will be doing this a lot perhaps :)
<shlevy> Hmm
<shlevy> If you can see if you can make an account
<shlevy> Then I can add you to the jobset I think
<shlevy> Or maybe I can create an account for you..
<shlevy> But I think that may require shell access
<shlevy> Yeah try logging in with google
<shlevy> if that doesn't work I can add you I think
<Sonarpulse> I did and....nothing
<Sonarpulse> I think that's borked
<shlevy> What's your email?
<Sonarpulse> John_Ericson@Alumni.Brown.edu
<Sonarpulse> probably better than the spam honeypot I somehow still author my commits with :/
<shlevy> Hmm
<shlevy> Logging in with Google worked for me
<shlevy> Sometimes there's a delay
<shlevy> (I just tried with a new address)
<Sonarpulse> I'll give it another shot
<Sonarpulse> worked in chromium lol
<shlevy> Oh
<shlevy> I think there's an issue about that somewhere
<shlevy> OK let me add you to the jobset
<shlevy> Augh does hydra not expose projectmembers through the interface? :(
<shlevy> domenkozar: ikwildrpepper: niksnut: ^
<domenkozar> I don't have cli access
<shlevy> Do you know if it's required for this?
<domenkozar> punch me, but I just add everyone as admin
<shlevy> :D
<shlevy> Alright
<domenkozar> (on private hydra that is)
<shlevy> Sonarpulse: Use it wisely
<domenkozar> but dunno
<domenkozar> :)
<shlevy> Sonarpulse: It's on me if you don't :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVHl
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 503329e Vincent Laporte: bluefish: 2.2.7 -> 2.2.9...
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<Sonarpulse> shlevy: ok!
<Sonarpulse> anything in particular that I should be aware of?
<Sonarpulse> it builds only casually vetted commits already, so I think it's pretty robust
<Sonarpulse> *I'd think
<shlevy> Yeah
<shlevy> Just don't go deleting stuff that's not yours or adding a million jobsets :P
<unlmtd[m]> whats happening with the wiki?
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<Sonarpulse> shlevy: oh ok :) can do
<LnL> niksnut: ikwildrpepper: I think those ~200 trunk builds have been in the queue for almost 2 days now
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<abbradar> Is it a good idea to open DHCPv6 client port on NixOS by default? I'm not knowledgeable much about IPv6 in general but it seems a good default to me.
<pareidolia> Here's a question for the experts: Can someone tell me why the derivation resulting from [link] has "builtin:fetchurl" as the builder? link = https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/shells/bash/4.4.nix#L55
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<gchristensen> pareidolia: because the curl-based fetchurl requires bash to run, so it falls back to a "bootstrapping" fetchurl
<pareidolia> gchristensen: Where is this decision made?
<pareidolia> gchristensen: It looks like any other fetchurl to me
<gchristensen> hmm I could be wrong on that
<Sonarpulse> shlevy: btw this looks old and dead http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/cross-stdenv
<Sonarpulse> the branch is gone
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMVQw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f7fc5d2 Vincent Laporte: matio: 1.5.2 -> 1.5.9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5fff41c Vincent Laporte: getdata: 0.8.9 -> 0.9.4
<gchristensen> pareidolia: I'm not sure :?
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<LnL> gchristensen: pareidolia: fetchurlBoot is used during the stdenv bootstrapping
<gchristensen> LnL: can you point to how bash 4.4 is passed in fetchurlBoot?
<gchristensen> yeah, I'm just not clear on when that gets to bash
<pareidolia> Same here
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<LnL> how I understand it is that each stage builds up packages and more and more of the "correct" versions
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9158b89 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.41 -> 4.4.42
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 295337e Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.2 -> 4.9.3
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 fb78a10 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.41 -> 4.4.42...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus opened pull request #21881: busybox: 1.26.1 -> 1.26.2 (master...busybox_1_26_2) https://git.io/vMV74
<gchristensen> I see
<LnL> but are you sure bash uses fetchurlBoot?
<gchristensen> my ISP does this annoying thing where I'll start out with 5mbps transfer speeds and does this logarithmic (I've graphed it) speed reduction over time until I'm just trickling. I wish I could re-initiate the connection every minute or so
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<LnL> my hydra builds fail :(
<LnL> possibly transient failure building ‘....tar.gz.drv’ on ‘user@mac1’: program ‘...resolve-system-dependencies.pl’ failed due to signal 11 (Segmentation fault: 11)
<domenkozar> there was an issue for that
<LnL> oh really?
<domenkozar> in nix github, afaik
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<LnL> yeah I found it
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<LnL> I wonder if it's related to my nix-copy-closure issue
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<joko> Could anyone help me with Hydra and supportedFeatures? I am overriding coreutils with requiredSystemFeatures and Hydra still sends the job to a machine without the supportedFeature :/
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<domenkozar> joko: sure
<domenkozar> joko: can you show me how you override
<LnL> domenkozar: that workaround fixed it
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMV5Z
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master afb73be Tim Steinbach: busybox: 1.26.1 -> 1.26.2
<joko> (meanwhile, Hydra on 16.09 makes "nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade" fail, due to aws/s3/S3Client.h not found, but one step at a time)
<domenkozar> yeah I had no time to fix that yet
<domenkozar> joko: try using overrideAttrs instead
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<domenkozar> or a simple derivation to test if that works for you
<joko> domenkozar: typically it works, e.g. you can see in the file I've shown you that I override libreoffice too
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<joko> My main machine has ZFS with limit support on unicode files, so it fails one of the tests
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] abbradar opened pull request #21882: DHCPv6 improvements (master...dhcp6) https://git.io/vMV51
<domenkozar> joko: hmm, no idea. any outout in hydra-queue-runner?
<domenkozar> output*
<joko> Let me restart the job now
<joko> domenkozar: nothing funny I suppose: https://ptpb.pw/sg0C
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] johbo opened pull request #21883: Darwin gtk quartz follow up (master...darwin-gtk-quartz-follow-up) https://git.io/vMVdE
<domenkozar> joko: I'd try with overrideAttrs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #21884: rustc: disable parallel building (master...rust-no-parallel) https://git.io/vMVda
<LnL> ^ :'(
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<gchristensen> clever: ping
<gchristensen> LnL: :(
<LnL> works fine for me, but apparently their build system is broken
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<LnL> hopefully the codegen is still a significant improvement
<gchristensen> I think I've hosed 4 dedicated servers today ಠ_ಥ
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<gchristensen> hmm I can't get clever's kexec trick to work anymore, the kexec'd kernel thinks /dev/sd{a,b} are in use
<LnL> that's strange, doesn't it force unmount everything
<gchristensen> yeah I thought so
<gchristensen> and indeed nothing is revealed to be mounted by `mount` but still, "The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)." and then when running partprobe "Error: Partition(s) 1, 2, 3 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use. As a result, the old
<gchristensen> partition(s) will remain in use. You should reboot now before making further changes."
<gchristensen> and obviously I can't reboot :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LutzCle opened pull request #21885: makemkv: 1.9.10 -> 1.10.4 (master...master) https://git.io/vMVF2
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<abbradar> gchristensen: very strange because I think kexec() can't leave any state behind it
<abbradar> (it is exec(), after all)
<gchristensen> yeah :/ I don't know
<LnL> oh interesting, the s3 uploader in hydra removes stuff immediately after it's uploaded
<abbradar> what about lsof /dev/sda?
<LnL> I thought that was done with a normal gc run
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<gchristensen> will check shortly, abbradar
<gchristensen> ah the rescue system is alpine with a grsec kernel that doesn't allow kexec
<gchristensen> ok back to the other kexec attempt / checking lsof :)
<gchristensen> abbradar: lsof reports nothing is using dev/sda or b
<joko> Funny, the change is not picked up by Hydra. Anyone care to solve the Hydra error on 16.09? "s3-binary-cache-store.cc:6:29: fatal error: aws/s3/S3Client.h: No such file or directory" is the problem
<domenkozar> i care but don't have time now
<gchristensen> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21424#issuecomment-272444435 worked for me, joko, domenkozar
<joko> gchristensen: got it, thanks
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<gchristensen> ah ha! it had a `md` raid setup which the new kernel was detecting, abbradar :o
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<abbradar> gchristensen: a-ha!
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<abbradar> new thing to know
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fe6e4e2 Clemens Lutz: makemkv: 1.9.10 -> 1.10.4
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 10b0a6d Robin Gloster: altcoins.stellar-core: assertion fails on i686
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] goetzst opened pull request #21886: youtube-dl: 2017-01-10 -> 2017-01-14 (master...youtube-dl) https://git.io/vMVN3
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #21887: gzip: `xz.bin` should be native input---accidentally worked because `bin` (master...gzip-cross) https://git.io/vMVNZ
<gchristensen> clearing these md entries is annoying ):
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nbp opened pull request #21888: Make services.xserver.xkbDir conflict free when overriden. (master...xkbDir) https://git.io/vMVNM
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b518598 John Ericson: gzip: `xz.bin` should be native input---accidentally worked because `bin` (#21887)...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b20e130 Stefan Götz: youtube-dl: 2017-01-10 -> 2017-01-14
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 790c7d7 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #21886 from goetzst/youtube-dl...
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<LnL> domenkozar: can you trigger my wip jobset?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 14da7be Jude Taylor: haskellPackages.GLUT: remove freeglut on darwin
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<globin> LnL: link?
<gchristensen> oh hot diggity dog, I have a 2-script solution to replacing ubuntu with nixos on Packet.net
<globin> LnL: done :)
<sphalerite> gchristensen: write a worm that gets into badly protected ubuntu servers and runs that script :D
<gchristensen> lol
<sphalerite> assimilate them all
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] globin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVpA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3405f70 Robin Gloster: gxemul: fix disappeared download link
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] kierdavis opened pull request #21890: boinc service: optionally use a FHS environment (master...boinc-service) https://git.io/vMVhJ
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-16.09: https://git.io/vMVhU
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 d3e1a10 Franz Pletz: containerd: 0.2.3 -> 0.2.5...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-16.09 372f157 Franz Pletz: runc: 2016-06-15 -> 1.0.0-rc2...
<gchristensen> fpletz: more? :o
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<LnL> globin: thanks! takes a while to trigger on it's own
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<mahe2> I wonder how to escape "${@:2}" properly in nix?
<fpletz> gchristensen: I just made a mistake :/
<fpletz> gchristensen: docker was broken on 16.09
<mahe2> I want that String be placed into a shell script within a derivation
<gchristensen> fpletz: ah okay :)
<gchristensen> I thought maybe more docker bugs creeped through
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<mahe2> never mind, found the right place in the doc
<LnL> mahe2: for multiline strings its ''', not sure for double quotes
<gchristensen> ok so the install worked okay, but my `nixops deploy` stage failed terribly :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #21891: top-level: Add more options to release-cross.nix, normalize param com… (master...release-cross) https://git.io/vMVjf
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMVjU
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 427dbcb John Ericson: top-level: Add more options to release-cross.nix, normalize param comments
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b859ae2 John Ericson: Merge pull request #21891 from Ericson2314/release-cross...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] the-kenny pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMVji
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 666810c Moritz Ulrich: elixir: 1.3.3 -> 1.4.0
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz closed pull request #21872: strongswan: enable charon-systemd (master...feat-charon-systemd) https://git.io/vMVqh
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<edofic> Can I somehow get a "source closure" of a derivation? That is everything needed to build the derivation and everything needed to build that etc.
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] offlinehacker opened pull request #21892: yarn: init at 0.18.1 (master...pkgs/yarn/add) https://git.io/vMwey
<LnL> yes, use nix-instantiate
<LnL> if you create a closure of the resulting drv you'll have everything you need to build it
<edofic> Great thanks. But I still need to manually recurse right?
<domenkozar> we're at 82% https://www.gofundme.com/typing-nix
<domenkozar> edofic: what's the goal?
<gchristensen> :o who put in 990??
<edofic> domenkozar: to get the full source closure so I can rebuild any step
<domenkozar> some researcher
<LnL> edofic: nix-store -qR "$(nix-instantiate -A hello)"
<LnL> you don't need to do all that if you just want to build a closure, right?
<edofic> Not sure. Let me explain better. If I have a Haskell package I want to get GHC, but I also want to get everything needed to build GHC from source
<edofic> and so on until I hit blobs
<domenkozar> yeah what I linked above gets you exactly that
<domenkozar> all fixed-output derivations that are downloaded
<domenkozar> all other content-addressed derivations will be based on them
<edofic> oh, did not understand that. Must have misread. Thanks. Will try it out
<domenkozar> I do not know if that includes also relative imports
<domenkozar> would have to try it out, no time atm :)
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<taktoa> :o time to donate
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<dmj`> take my money, please
<edofic> domenkozar: looks like this does exactly what I wanted. Thanks
<domenkozar> yw
<LnL> hrm, go_boostrap seems to be broken
<taktoa> I'm trying to donate but it keeps hanging :(
<avn> btw, can go_bootstrap be marked as build locally? (It still refer to go_1.4, although mostly copied stuff from 1.4)
<LnL> what do you mean?
<clever> gchristensen: pong
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<gchristensen> hi clever, sorted it I think
<clever> kk
<domenkozar> taktoa: huh
<taktoa> oh well looks like bitemyapp just donated the rest, so whateve
<gchristensen> now my problem nobody can help with, I keep somehow disabling ssh on my target server O.o
<domenkozar> taktoa: do donate that extra, it will help boost up excitment :)
<taktoa> domenkozar: I tried twice, it just hangs every time
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<taktoa> god gofundme is a terribly designed website
<domenkozar> yes
<domenkozar> I've created a bad habit of using it
<domenkozar> sorry :)
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<taktoa> it's fine lol
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<dmj`> bitemyapp just put down $532
<gchristensen> amazing
<dmj`> Theophane should be like, “Unfortunately I’ll be discontinuing my thesis, thanks for everyone who donated, cheers!"
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<sphalerite> Is there a single command that does the equivalent of nix-env -i $(nix-store -r $(nix-instantiate stuff.nix)) ?
<clever> sphalerite: nix-env -f stuff.nix -i ?
<sphalerite> aaaaah perfect...
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<sphalerite> Can't wait for the UI redesign to go through
<dmj`> gchristensen: still no luck on my driver issues :(
<sphalerite> (assuming it actually makes stuff like that easier)
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<taktoa> domenkozar: ohhh, I needed to disable ublock
<domenkozar> :D
<domenkozar> awesome work
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] 2chilled opened pull request #21893: h2: init at 1.4.193 (master...master) https://git.io/vMwJk
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] johbo opened pull request #21894: pangomm: Add ApplicationServices on darwin (master...darwin-pangomm) https://git.io/vMwJ2
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<michalrus> Hey, anyone on GNOME around?
<gchristensen> domenkozar: can you add a webhook to nixos/nixpkgs for https://webhook.nix.gsc.io/nixos/nixpkgs? (it is up now)
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<michalrus> Can you tell me which package contains `gnome-screensaver`?
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<AtnNn> Hi, I'm working through the Programming and Proving tutorial
<AtnNn> What is the constructor for (0::int?
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<AtnNn> Using 0 gives `non-constructor pattern not allowed'
<AtnNn> Oh, wrong channel
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<AtnNn> The license for vampire (vprover.org) says "The Licencee may not distribute the Software." Would a package for it be accepted into nixpkgs?
<simpson> AtnNn: It'd definitely be marked as unfree.
<pareidolia> But accepted?
<gchristensen> probably with requireFile as the src
<joepie91> it appears that the `capstone` package is missing lib/pkgconfig files, which is leading to it not being picked up by pkg-config... is the correct fix to add pkgconfig to the buildInputs for `capstone`, or would anything else need to be done?
<joepie91> (this is a somewhat urgent question, it's blocking my `edb` build :P)
<AtnNn> thanks, requireFile seems perfect for this
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<jophish_> domenkozar: do you ever think https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/13 will be implemented?
<jophish_> ooh! typing nix!
<johbo> is there any special ordering in python-packages.nix?
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<jophish_> is it not alphabetical?
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<johbo> seems to have some chunks sorted alphabetical
<gchristensen> alphabeticish
<LnL> gchristensen: you have a webhook running allready?
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<joepie91> huh. from some experimentation, it would seem that the answer to my question is "yes"
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMwkh
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 238a090 Jörg Thalheim: gdm: init at 1.4
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 70591f8 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #21870 from Mic92/gdm...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMwIv
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4f130dd Jörg Thalheim: manul: init at 2016-09-30
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 235da0d Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #21871 from Mic92/manul...
<domenkozar> joepie91: no, but hope never dies
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Profpatsch pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMwIk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f56dd9 sternenseemann: nixos/pulseaudio: make daemon.conf configurable (#20888)...
<gchristensen> hah
<Mic92> joepie91: sometimes because of pull request the order get mixed up
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<joepie91> domenkozar: I think that was a mishighlight? :P
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMwID
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1fe5134 Jörg Thalheim: powerdns: 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthewbauer opened pull request #21895: xcbuild: update to 0.1.1 (master...xcbuild-update) https://git.io/vMwI7
<sphalerite> I have a device that I've managed to compile some software for using nixpkgs's cross-compilation support. However, I haven't managed to build nix for it. Can I still copy closures efficiently, e.g. using rsync (which I've got to build successfully for it)?
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<manveru> seems like crystal now also needs libxml2 to run specs
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<domenkozar> joepie91: ah :P
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMwtH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8a7d373 Johannes Bornhold: Darwin gtk quartz follow up (#21883)...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #21892: yarn: init at 0.18.1 (master...pkgs/yarn/add) https://git.io/vMwey
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<joepie91> I should submit a PR to nixpkgs for capstone...
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] LnL7 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMwtF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b93496 Johannes Bornhold: pangomm: Add ApplicationServices on darwin
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c391904 Daiderd Jordan: Merge pull request #21894 from johbo/darwin-pangomm...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #21896: Two changes in preperation of cross cleanup (master...gawk) https://git.io/vMwtj
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMwqe
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fa0a12e John Ericson: release-cross: Use `nativeDrv` rather than relying on default...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 27b47ef John Ericson: gawk: xz.bin should be a native build input
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 94ad99e John Ericson: Merge pull request #21896 from Ericson2314/gawk...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMwqC
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2ab883c Jörg Thalheim: sysdig: patch for linux >= 4.9.1
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joepie91 opened pull request #21897: capstone: fix pkgconfig file generation (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vMwqW
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<pikajude> Is it possible to install NixOS from an external hard drive?
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<sphalerite> pikajude: yes. The easiest way involves sacrificing all the data on it though
<pikajude> sphalerite: ok, how do I prepare the drive?
<pikajude> i wiped it, formatted it as exfat, used dd to copy the iso to it, then booted from it
<pikajude> and it times out waiting for the device /dev/root
<sphalerite> hm
<pikajude> so i have messed up somehow
<sphalerite> did you boot it with EFI?
<pikajude> i think so
<pikajude> i have refit installed
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<sphalerite> it could still be using CSM (BIOS) boot, I honestly don't know
<pikajude> maybe I should just go buy a USB storage drive
<pikajude> technology is so unreliable
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<sphalerite> I'd be surprised if that helped
<sphalerite> but who knows
<sphalerite> wait what sort of external hard drive?
<sphalerite> (how does it connect)
<pikajude> it's a seagate
<pikajude> usb
<pikajude> HDD
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<pikajude> i've never had a problem installing from a USB drive so that's why i've proposed this
<sphalerite> by USB drive you mean a USB flash drive?
<pikajude> ya
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthewbauer opened pull request #21898: DarwinTools: init at 1 (master...darwintools) https://git.io/vMwYC
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<sphalerite> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vMwYw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eedd562 Sven Slootweg: capstone: fix pkgconfig file generation (#21897)
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