<gchristensen>
a few weeks ago I mentioned a really stellar message. here is a one I've been procrastinating on handling because I don't know what to do lol trace: warning: types.string is deprecated because it quietly concatenates strings
<domenkozar[m]>
it's mostly that it doesn't point to where the invocation is
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<gchristensen>
should I switch r13y.com to reproducible.dev ?
<mkaito>
if you enjoy paying out the nose for .dev domains, sure :P
<gchristensen>
I have it already :P
<drakonis>
sure why not, though it'd be a domain best held by the overall reproducible builds group
<gchristensen>
true
<gchristensen>
I think I'll offer it
<Taneb>
drakonis: I think that also might apply to r13y.com ;)
<drakonis>
probably.
<drakonis>
i can't dismiss that
<Taneb>
Something like r13y.nix would be perfect. Is there a nix TLD? Probably not...
<drakonis>
i was about to ask that
<Taneb>
gchristensen: I prefer r13y.com, personally, but that might be because I'm familiar with it
<gchristensen>
unfortunately my budget request for 180kUSD to get .nix was rejected
<Taneb>
Maybe try again next budget cycle?
<gchristensen>
will do
<infinisil>
That would be nice :o
<Taneb>
(I'd be happy with nix.r13y.com or .dev or something)
<gchristensen>
I popped my head in to #reproducible-builds on OFTC to offer them r13y.com and reproducible.dev. they don't seem to actually want them right now, but even better: bmwiedemann is sending me patches for a handful of our problems <3 <3 <3
<drakonis>
coolest.
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<Taneb>
I guess that's the perfect result
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace by the way, I should probably update Flatpak before branch off
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<mkaito>
I know some of you use direnv with nix-shell. It just gets stuck for me since last update. Anyone ran into that?
<mkaito>
I use it mostly because of emacs, which has direnv-mode.
<Profpatsch>
mkaito: Yes, that’s the main use-case
<mkaito>
alright I'll give it a try
<mkaito>
thanks
<Profpatsch>
mkaito: I uses direnv for the reload
<mkaito>
wouldn't it just get stuck the same then? :P
<gchristensen>
I'd really like to be able to keep the build directory even on success
<Profpatsch>
mkaito: no, that’s the main improvement over plain use nix
<Taneb>
gchristensen: agreed, the amount of times I've added "postInstall = exit 1"...
<mkaito>
oh it's not written in haskell, sign me up
<Profpatsch>
mkaito: heh, what’s the problem with Haskell?
<mkaito>
I'm one of the nix guys at a haskell shops
<mkaito>
too much saussage making, I guess
<mkaito>
when I see haskell, I jsut want to run away
<gchristensen>
mkaito: a lot of people here like Haskell, and that is okay. it is good to have people who like all sorts of languages around
<mkaito>
I guess tongue-in-cheek doesn't translate very well to IRC
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<gchristensen>
it can be hard to translate, especially when the tongue-in-cheek is about something the person on the other side likes a lot :)
<mkaito>
all good
<mkaito>
no harm intended
<gchristensen>
<3 thanks
<mkaito>
I know that a lot of nix people love haskell, and viceversa.
<mkaito>
I don't particularly love haskell, but I can see the appeal
<gchristensen>
aye
<cransom>
i'll let you love it. it currently has no place in my heart. some day maybe.
<gchristensen>
that is okay too
<mkaito>
I'm sure writing Haskell is lovely, especially if you're math-minded. Debugging Haskell builds is not nearly as fun though, and that's most of what I do :P
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<zimbatm>
mkaito: what does "stuck" mean in that contect?
<zimbatm>
context
<zimbatm>
release 2.21.0 broke a few things which should be fixed in 2.21.2
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<mkaito>
stuck means... stuck.
<mkaito>
it will do the nix thing (copy from cache, etc), output a massive hash-like thing, and thar she blows. stuck forever.
<mkaito>
I've had one stuck for like 6 hours since this morning, because I forgot about that shell :P
<zimbatm>
I assume your `.envrc` looks like: `use nix`?
<zimbatm>
did you override the `use_nix` function?
<yorick>
gchristensen: haskell is fine if you like 10GB CLI binary closures :P
<gchristensen>
~off topic~
<zimbatm>
mkaito: -> #direnv
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<rnhmjoj>
i have some free time now and i'd like to address issue #7531. do you any suggestion?
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<worldofpeace>
currently I've been avoiding bash like ⚰️, mostly because I think it might put me in the ⚰️
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<jtojnar>
I can take a look at it on Feb 6, if you will not beat me to it
<worldofpeace>
hehe Jan Tojnar no races here (yet...)
<worldofpeace>
though flatpak I'm knowingfully avoiding because it's a real pain to update all the things, many patches and eternal tests
<jtojnar>
it would be nice to make the upstream code more procedural so that we could just swap the locating procedures
<jtojnar>
not sure how acceptable it is for upstream
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<jtojnar>
worldofpeace I was also thinking about making wrap{Python,{G,Qt}Apps}Hook set makeWrapperArgs and than let wrapProgramsHook take care of the actual wrapping
<jtojnar>
which would get us slightly closer to declarative wrappers