gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS 19.09 is released! https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-19-09-release/4306 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 19.09 RMs: disasm, sphalerite; 20.03: worldofpeace, disasm | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<samueldr> cross-people, this seems to generally fix issues with python extensions https://github.com/samueldr/nixpkgs/commit/72b945fb2b2e4ad9b33cbbb766468e5082d7fc88
<samueldr> -L and -I are added since, at least for python3Packages.evdev the native python would be used to (try to) link to
<lovesegfault> Is there anything I can do to help merge staging?
<samueldr> now, python people: what's wrong with that and how to fix it right?
<samueldr> -I and -L aren't seemingly required for the previously mentioned pycryptodome
<samueldr> (mentioned a few days back)
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<anirrudh> Hi all, I am currently using nix on darwin. I was wondering if someone could help me understand what the `buildFHSUser` does - to my understanding, it just creates a new permissioned user. I know this is restricted to Linux, but is there any way to be able to port this to macOS?
<anirrudh> not port - but replicate its behavior? I am trying to install miniconda under nix
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<mkaito> can I read the gist on flakes anywhere?
<niksnut> mkaito: the rfc is more up to date: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/49
<{^_^}> rfcs#49 (by edolstra, 27 weeks ago, open): [RFC 0049] Flakes
<mkaito> I meant gist as in the dictionary meaning, not the github appropriated newfangled meaning :P
<mkaito> thanks for the links
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<worldofpeace> NixOS 20.03 Feature Freeze https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-03-feature-freeze/5655
<lovesegfault> :O
<samueldr> why the 10th?
<gchristensen> I tell you what, these every-6-mo releases really seem to accelerate time
<samueldr> and 🎉
<globin> worldofpeace: structuredAttrs will not be ready in time, also I'm offline from the middle of february to ~10th april so I won't be able to fix up anything related that people have cherry-picked then, so if something comes up please ping me early :)
<gchristensen> that is okay, plenty of time tobake and get stable ofor 20.09 :)
<adisbladis> Whoa. didn't we just release 19.09 ?!
<samueldr> shy of 5 months ago I think
<worldofpeace> globin: yeah I think that might have to be a thing to get in shape for 20.09
<adisbladis> samueldr: Yeah :) Just feels like it was basically yesterday :)
<worldofpeace> samueldr: I actually thought we were a bit late in announcing the freeze, if there's any real bit pushback we can adjust the date. It's just what disasm and I agreed on
<gchristensen> I like our pace. it feels hard sometimes, and feels fast sometimes, but like the saying goes if something hurts do it more
<globin> worldofpeace: needs changes in nix so it will take time
<worldofpeace> globin: I dropped the mention from the announcement
<samueldr> no worries then, worldofpeace, was more curious about it than anything else
<gchristensen> it would be good to put all the big "todo" items for the release process in to general day-to-day per-PR process, so master is "always ready" essentially
<worldofpeace> gchristensen: yeah, that sounds tranquil. but when it comes to the python testing port master won't be ready until that's complele
<gchristensen> yeah
<gchristensen> separate from goals, I mean, though
<gchristensen> like collecting release notes or breaking changes etc.
<gchristensen> "major upgrades"
<worldofpeace> samueldr: re your cross-compiling mention, could you share some links with me? I've seen it discussed in this channel a few times but I'm not informed
<samueldr> oh, it's rather "trivial", glibc cross-compiling is broken on unstable, already fixed in staging, now it "simply" needs to graduate to being in master :)
<samueldr> the non-trivial bit is making staging graduate before the release
<disasm> samueldr: I would have preferred the 3rd, but figured a 2 week notice was in order :)
<disasm> and yeah, true to form, we're behind schedule of announcing things :)
<gchristensen> if anybody complains, send them an invoice :P
<worldofpeace> exactly, it took us a bit to get to things IMHO
<worldofpeace> gchristensen: 🤣
<adisbladis> disasm: As is tradition :)
<gchristensen> it is important to try to be timely, and important to be on top of it and get it done within a reasonable amount of time (or delegate to let somebody else do so) but +/- some time.... sorry, volunteer work
<aminechikhaoui> niksnut disasm I see a 20.3 feature freeze email already, can we get https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/72266 in ? Just to get the basic building blocks of the plugin structure working in nixpkgs
<aminechikhaoui> I think currently it's used in a weird way and would be nice to have some helpers provided
<{^_^}> #72266 (by AmineChikhaoui, 12 weeks ago, open): Introduce NixOPS plugin structure
<worldofpeace> samueldr: when it comes to graduating staging, I always become worrysome when it's a bit of an internal process, and if FRidh could become unavailable round release...
<gchristensen> aminechikhaoui: yes please
<samueldr> I think vcunat also works on graduating staging
<gchristensen> aminechikhaoui: replying with feedback...
<aminechikhaoui> gchristensen thanks
<gchristensen> aminechikhaoui: thank you =)
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<{^_^}> #78640 (by Infinisil, 37 seconds ago, open): Add `types.secretPath`
<pie_[bnc]> infinisil: is validderivationname bijective?
<infinisil> Nah
<pie_[bnc]> whats the return type of secretinnixstore
<infinisil> A value coercible to a path in the nix store
<infinisil> (essentially a nix store path)
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<arcnmx> o:
<pie_[bnc]> someone better hire infinisil to work on nixpkgs full time
<pie_[bnc]> :P
<infinisil> I'm up for it!
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