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<worldofpeace>
Mic92: Sooo sorry about missing the RFC meeting last week without any notice. Partially my fault, but there was really no reaching me that week online
<domenkozar[m]>
infinisil: thanks for getting that RFC started
<domenkozar[m]>
it's one of the hardest one to pick :D
<infinisil>
Thanks, yeah probably :)
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<domenkozar[m]>
I agree with what has been said, gathering requirements is most important, more than comparing the formats
<domenkozar[m]>
it's also hard to compare if requirements are unknown
<Profpatsch>
worldofpeace: Were you on the ocean? :)
<worldofpeace>
Profpatsch: pretty much, in a sea of transformative consciousness. I recall hearing a gull cry murmuring something along the lines of "Steering meeting etc etc."
<worldofpeace>
But it's a known fact, don't trust seagulls before high tea. Totally uncouth a gesture.
<worldofpeace>
Profpatsch: Where are you hiding! You're onto me now, because I've finished his mentorship.
<worldofpeace>
* I've haven't
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<Profpatsch>
user service question: from man logind.conf I read that I need to enable lingering of users. But just setting KillUserProcesses to no doesn’t do the trick.
<Profpatsch>
However there is no option to enable lingering for users.
<Profpatsch>
Also it’s funny that NixOS sets KillUserProcesses to “no” by default, overriding the systemd policy :)
<Profpatsch>
Revolution!
<yorick>
most distros do
<Profpatsch>
yorick: I haven’t forgotten your request to upstream writeExecline btw :)
<infinisil>
Like things you can reference in a link?
<infinisil>
Can't think of anything else so that's probably it
<infinisil>
jtojnar: Then another question: What are automatic link labels? Do you mean to not have to specify xml:id="blablabl" manually for a link so it looks like nixos.org/manual#blablabl instead of #id-654632
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<qyliss>
Why would libxml2 propagate its Python bindings output?
<ris>
anyone who ever manages to package frida (https://frida.re/) deserves a medal - they appear to have forked half the world for their dependencies
<ris>
what my sunday looked like: i borderline gave up when i realized they depended on a custom glib, then i fully gave up when i realized they had a custom libxml2
<ivan>
you weren't "up and running in seconds"?
<ivan>
I guess containers won because they were compatible with everyone's existing horrible build-install procedure
<qyliss>
mostly it was that they had an extremely large marketing budget
<gchristensen>
/nix/store/7qgfprpalvsa26asy4yn8d9lpabpdz5b-hello-2.10/bin/hello: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /nix/store/wx1vk75bpdr65g6xwxbj4rw0pk04v5j3-glibc-2.27/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
<gchristensen>
I thought we enabled hardening by default?
<gchristensen>
can we confirm we are indeed hardening by default? I'm a bit concerned about lib.optionalAttrs (hardeningDisable != [] || hardeningEnable != []) { NIX_HARDENING_ENABLE = enabledHardeningOptions;
<fpletz>
gchristensen: you can check with checksec (in nixpkgs)
<fpletz>
should be enabled though, just no pie by default