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<peti> Does anybody know when the NixCon 2018 organizers are going to announce the conference program? I submitted a talk and I'd like to know whether it's accepted or not, but so far there seem to be no news even though the deadline has past for quite a while.
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<adisbladis> peti: The program is done and zimbatm was supposed to email speakers
<adisbladis> There were some question whether you could do the haskell infra talk as a lightning talk
<peti> adisbladis: Hmm. How long is a lightning talk?
<adisbladis> peti: I'm not sure. Certainly <10 minutes
<peti> adisbladis: I don't think that's enough time. In that case, I'd rather pass.
<adisbladis> Ok. I'll add that to the board
<peti> adisbladis: I can probably just record a couple of screen casts about the subject and make them available on Youtube.
<peti> adisbladis: Anyhow, thanks for the link to Trello! This is looking good! :-)
<adisbladis> Yeah super excited :D
<adisbladis> peti: That might actually be a perfect topic for hackday?
<peti> adisbladis: Well, I for that particular talk it feels important to have it recorded and made available for a wider audience. I'm pretty sure that not everyone who has an interest in Haskell in Nixpkgs is coming to the conference.
<peti> adisbladis: So it would have been particularly nice to have the presentation on Youtube.
<srhb> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/45346 -- does this make sense? I think there's something weird about dhcpcd being before networking.target, but according to #44524 that is desired.
<{^_^}> #45346 (by srhb, 13 hours ago, open): dhcpcd prevents interface renaming from working
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/44524 (by vincentbernat, 2 weeks ago, merged): dhcpcd service: order before network target
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<infinisil> I'll merge this myself if nobody complains: #43865
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/43865 (by Infinisil, 4 weeks ago, open): futhark: init at 0.6.2
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<zimbatm> peti: would you be up for coming to our meetup to give that talk instead?
<zimbatm> I mean the London NixOS meetup
<zimbatm> our host is recording the talks for us
<zimbatm> and it can happen any time
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<gchristensen> or both! :)
<gchristensen> shlevy: 'round?
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<peti> zimbatm: I'd love to do that ... that meetup is in London, though, am I right?
<zimbatm> yeah
<peti> zimbatm: That's not particularly easy for me to reach (from Berlin). :-|
<zimbatm> we don't have regular schedules
<zimbatm> yeah there is nothing I can do about that
<zimbatm> I can host you though
<timokau[m]> zimbatm: anywhere I can subscribe for those recordings (meetup and nixcon)?
<peti> zimbatm: Thank you very much for the offer. I'll think about it and what's the best solution for me.
<zimbatm> peti: yeah think about it. usually it's better to have one month of notice and I need to check with SkillsMatter if the place is free. that's the main restrictions
<zimbatm> timokau[m]: for the meetup you'll have to dig in https://www.meetup.com/NixOS-London/events/past/ . not all meetups are recorded, only the ones with skillsmatter, and not all the time
<zimbatm> for nixcon there is a youtube channel if you search
<timokau[m]> zimbatm: cool, looks like there is some interesting stuff there.
<zimbatm> too bad they never published the video with domenkozar talking about "Building Haskell projects with Nix"
<zimbatm> maybe they have it in their archives
<timokau[m]> This is a list of all the ones with videos available btw.: https://skillsmatter.com/groups/10603-london-nixos-user-group#past_events
<timokau[m]> would be nice to put those on the yt channel, but that is probably a rights issue?
<zimbatm> oh it's there
<zimbatm> yeah I think those belong to SkillsMatter
<zimbatm> the biggest issue we have is finding speakers, it's a lot of work
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<gchristensen> niksnut: I wonder if we could release 2.1.0 as a release candidate first to have a released artifact we can use for testing on Travis.ci etc. before making the release the default install
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<gchristensen> #nixos-dev, question about the Nix installer: should it update ~/.bashrc? if it does, `ssh host nix-store` works "out of the box" for that user.
<gchristensen> hrm, maybe it doesn't always make that work out of the box. bashrc is complicated.
<samueldr> bashrc is supposed to be used for interactive shells, (haven't verified yet) starting a command via ssh like that is interactive?
<samueldr> » If bash determines it is being run [executed by the remote shell daemon [the secure shell daemon sshd]] it reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, ifthat file exists and is readable.
<samueldr> (re-ordered sentence fragments from the man pag)
<flokli> infinisil: regarding #43865, I tried compiling some examples, that did work. Unfortunately, didn't yet find some time to get opencl working on my laptop. Bornhack and priorities, mostly slacking in the hammock haha ;-)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/43865 (by Infinisil, 4 weeks ago, open): futhark: init at 0.6.2
<infinisil> flokli: Ah, opencl did work on my machine, werird
<LnL> gchristensen: personally, just tell me what to do don't touch my files!
<LnL> but I understand that's probably not a good default
<infinisil> flokli: Can you post a comment with the error or something?
<flokli> infinisil: might be my own stupidity, or problematic with the hardware
<LnL> gchristensen: maybe just ask if there's a tty?
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<gchristensen> LnL: hrm?
<LnL> gchristensen: bashrc
<gchristensen> probably the thing to do to start is get a better handle on what it'll take and write some documentation
<niksnut> gchristensen: well, anybody who wants to test can grab the latest tarball from https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nix/master/tarball/all
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<gchristensen> niksnut: maybe, then, you could announce when you plan on issuing a release so I/we can do some testing with the almost-final-version in the various places before it becomes the default :)
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<LnL> oh new release, when?
<LnL> having it be macos 10.14 compatible wouldbe nice
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