gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.09 release managers: vcunat and samueldr | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<ekleog> hmmm… if I read correctly, extensible attrsets are going to almost replace all sets (naturally) and all functions (because they allow adding doc and it's possible to add a .return | final element), apart from the most simple computational-only ones… am I right?
<infinisil> ekleog: If the performance of them isn't worse, seems like it
<infinisil> Possibly
* ekleog would like to have docs on function arguments some day
<ekleog> not all function have a meaning as extensible attrsets
<infinisil> Such as?
<infinisil> Stuff like lib.id or so I guess
<ekleog> yeah, lib.* at least
<ekleog> I guess stuff that's currently returning an attrset with __functor defined would also qualify, as it wouldn't be possible with extensible attrsets, but I don't know many use cases that aren't just modules
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<srhb> Is there anything we can do to unblock nixos-unstable other than waiting for staging to be merged to fix the firefox test?
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<Guest1773> why is a firefox fix in staging??
<Guest1773> euh
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<srhb> I think staging was merged, the problem was discovered, and the commits were reverted on staging only, yet. It was pretty far down the chain in stdenv
<srhb> Not sure though
<LnL> ah wait, is this the stdenv.cc disallowed reference?
<srhb> Hm, yes, it looks like it.
<srhb> Just looking at the latest eval, looks like it might have been included already :)
<srhb> Yup, and hour ago. Sorry for the noise. :)
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<LnL> no problem, I think staging-next is empty so we could start stabilising again if necessary
<chaker> Hey guys, is there any documentation about the diff engine in NixOps? I'm trying to add a new resource and I don't want to use what's already implemented.
<chaker> s/don't/
<srhb> LnL: Ah nice :)
<LnL> euh but... master queue
<srhb> yeah, not sure how that happened, staging was done with x86_64 yesterday
<LnL> unless it's a "I don't know if it's cached yet" queue
<srhb> Might just be that. It was merged one hour ago :)
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<LnL> I think it doesn't take that long tho
<srhb> Doesn't that depend on things that are in front in the queue?
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<srhb> LnL: Yup, now it's chewing through them at "not building" speed.
<aminechikhaoui> chaker: not much unfortunetly apart from the few comments in https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/blob/master/nixops/diff.py
<aminechikhaoui> we should probably add something to hacking section maybe
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<genesis> http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/raw/Sr8XQBfH it begins to be a bit complicated, i need gcc -m32 but i donno howto
<genesis> should i use stdenv_32bit.cc something ?
<genesis> gcc_32bit.cc ho
<genesis> gcc_multi fine.
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<clever> genesis: pkgsi686Linux.stdenv
<clever> genesis: that will give you a 32bit only stdenv
<genesis> yeap i use gcc_multi instead since i don't want to switch stdenv in function of archi
<clever> ah, you want 32bit builds on a 64bit env?
<genesis> yes :)
<genesis> this a bit nasty to make it run after 12 years of abandon .
<CrystalGamma[m]> is there a reason not to use cross-building instead?
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<genesis> CrystalGamma[m] : i spend 2 days on that, so now it's working i donno if cross-building would be better
<genesis> just need to compile one file for a LD_PRELOAD tricks, not much.
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<CrystalGamma[m]> sure, work on whatever you like :)
<timokau[m]> niksnut: What's the future of the `nix-lang.md` document? I feel like that being a github gist isn't optimal for discussion. Should we maybe make a (or better, multiple) RFCs out of it?
<gchristensen> LnL: here is what I think my report will look like. any feedback? https://i.imgur.com/tmhXz3A.jpg
<LnL> gchristensen: nice! I wouldn't show any output for succeeded builds tho it's a bit confusing
<gchristensen> I was going to abuse that for displaying nix-info output :')
<gchristensen> but I could not
<LnL> oh btw, I have a partial command that shows the client/daemon protocol versions :D
<gchristensen> oooh!!
<LnL> Client protocol: 512.5 Daemon protocol: 256.20
<gchristensen> is it really that high?
<LnL> yes? :p
<LnL> no idea how to interpret the numbers
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<clever> domenkozar: https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/87 ive found jobs on the iohk hydra that have been running 1 or 2 days, but the source says the default timeout is 10 hours
<{^_^}> hydra#87 (by dmgroenewegen, 5 years ago, open): Custom timeout for jobset
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<niksnut> LnL: see worker-protocol.hh, the least-significant byte is the minor version and the most-significant byte is the major version (always 1)
<niksnut> timokau[m]: it's too early for an rfc since there are still many open issues
<LnL> oh, I used the GET_* macros but that doesn't shift them
<LnL> yeah ok this representation is totally wrong :p
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<gchristensen> sorry for the page LnL
<gchristensen> deploying the aarch64 machine
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