<andi->
samueldr: jobs is haunting me. They saw that I am not a believer and ensured that my system would crash. Ill go back to my 6y old lenovo.
<samueldr>
not sure jobs actually would be proud of current days apple
<samueldr>
I would flip a coin
<samueldr>
maybe jobs would like the extreme control they exert
<samueldr>
but likely would hate the... the way everything is just not well buttoned-up, all polished
<andi->
I wonder what all those developers at apple are doing... On twitter you see the occasional waves of hiring everyone that can spell C L O U D sideways
<lovesegfault>
Right, I definitely think Apple has been increasing it's control but not "paying back" with the high quality & consistency it used to be famous for
<lovesegfault>
like, the last few macbook gens were a bit disastrous in the grand scheme of things
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<bbigras>
gchristensen: are you going to give up on vault? or are you considering HA?
<gchristensen>
HA
<lovesegfault>
HA?
<bbigras>
hight availability
<bbigras>
if I can spell
<bbigras>
apparently not.
<bbigras>
"server response: Service Unavailable" fuckkk. I need to update the tailscale package before the others.. even if I didn't even eat yet and it's getting late.
<eyJhb>
I am just messing with you, but is this what NixOS dependency hell looks like? :D :p
<eyJhb>
But thanks! Will look at it later, it could be cool to setup. Also, when you try to detect traffic, then remember to log the time for when the droplet was started, and then only close it right before the hour is up :D
<infinisil>
Hehe, I just haven't had the time to really make a *single thing* out of it
<infinisil>
If I did that, setting this up would be trivial
<infinisil>
eyJhb: Hmm not sure what you mean regarding detecting traffic
<eyJhb>
` Snoop the relayed connection to figure out how many people are online and delete the server again if nobody is online for 5 minutes. Can also be used to log to IRC` the last todo here
<infinisil>
Ahh yeah, ideally that would be done in the haskell part, didn't get to that yet though
<infinisil>
So what I linked is the current out-of-haskell implementation of that
<infinisil>
Ah and you mean the "close it right before the hour is up" to not have to pay for another hour of it :)
<eyJhb>
Yes ^, or to not waste resources in general. Use what you pay for, no reason to close it after 1 hour and 5 minutes :p
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<infinisil>
eyJhb: Well the idea with the 5 minutes is that you can take short breaks without having to restart it
<infinisil>
If you quickly leave at the 0:59 mark, you don't want it to be shut down right away
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<eyJhb>
No no, then you have 5 min grace period, and then you hit 01:04, and if you leave at between 01:00 to 01:54, then it will only shut it down at e.g. 01:59 I guess
<eyJhb>
*timings can be improved* :D
<infinisil>
Ah
<infinisil>
eyJhb: But like, there's no cost if it shuts down intermittently
<eyJhb>
Between 01:10 and 01:40 you will not pay if you shut it down, and then create a new?
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<infinisil>
I wouldn't expect so
<infinisil>
Hmm
<infinisil>
Yeah like if they bill by just summing up the time it ran, then rounding to the nearest hour
<infinisil>
But I don't really want to optimize for this tbh
<eyJhb>
As far as I know, they bill pr. hour you start :p But I could be wrong!
<tilpner>
siraben: Would you prefer a pinned nixpkgs from 4 years ago, so that texlive definitely shares no parts with the texlive you already have? >.> (yes, but only if it doesn't work)
<siraben>
tilpner: valid point, texlive is probably quite stable
<tilpner>
Exactly, and it only gets worse the more tex projects you have, but it would be nice to have the choice of a known-good revision here
<siraben>
you could always override if it's a flake, no?
<tilpner>
(Though by specifying less than scheme-full, a pinned shell gets much more acceptable)
<tilpner>
I have not touched flakes yet
<siraben>
tilpner: I got into them recently, it's very good
<siraben>
the CLI docs are helpful and reading examples as well help
<siraben>
helps
<tilpner>
My hesitance to invest the necessary time only grew after the RFC was withdrawn, leaving an experimental feature with no expectation of stability :/
<tilpner>
(I like the ideas, and usually try fancy toys, but it would be a lot (days-weeks) of work to port my setup)
<philipp[m]1>
NASA Spaceflight says t-2h before anything happens for sure.
<gchristensen>
nice
<eyJhb>
I hate people and their stupid bass music on speakers. Especially young people that just moved out. No, I do not want to hear your shitty music, yes I hate you when you play it during lectures just because you have no, yes please go somewhere else or be a decent human being
<bbigras>
noisy neighbours are the worst. you never know how long it will last and you often can't just leave.
<tilpner>
I always start worrying about my drives when my neighbours start the music again, but I don't know what tolerance for vibrations common HDDs actually have
<tilpner>
Yeah, that's about all the education I have on it c.c
<tilpner>
That, and people freaking out after someone posted an image of a NAS on top of speakers
<eyJhb>
tilpner: how much does your apartmen vibrate?
<eyJhb>
My neighbour just asked if I am OK with him watching the superbowl with his friends (5 guys) this sunday. Keep in mind, that ends at like 4-5 in the night between sunday and monday... And there are lectures from 08.15
<tilpner>
eyJhb: I can sit on my chair with me feet lifted up, and the vibration is still annoying. I don't know how to quantify the strength, but it means headphones don't actually shield against their music
<eyJhb>
Like, nice to ask, but why not just stfu, and then not do it if you doubt you can actually stfu...
<eyJhb>
tilpner: basically the same here , you can feel it everywhere...
<eyJhb>
> bbigras | noisy neighbours are the worst. you never know how long it will last and you often can't just leave.
<{^_^}>
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<eyJhb>
We are moving in 1 month! <3
<eyJhb>
Good thing, no more bass/speaker enthusiast + crazy girl that screams at her boyfriend for 6+ hours. Bad thing, we will get a neighbour whos son has seperation issues to a degree that the current resident of the place we get have noticed it.
<tilpner>
eyJhb: There isn't really a good answer to that. Even if you could sleep somewhere else that night, it shouldn't be necessary :(
<tilpner>
"Sure, if you let me keep the remote for when you get too loud" <.<
<eyJhb>
We have the possibility to sleep somewhere else, my GF still has her old apartment until we move. But I really do not feel like that should be needed.. :/
<eyJhb>
I have to pay 1 month of overlapping rent. So I should maybe borrow my friends mobile disco speakers, and then just play MLP with bass boost for a month at him after we move.. It is a petty move however :|
<sphalerite>
eyJhb: also meeting up with 5 people in these times :o
<eyJhb>
Our limit is actually 5 people I think
<eyJhb>
But then THAT is your circle of trust, so no family meetups or anything for them I guess
<bbigras>
I didn't even see my parents at Christmas...
<eyJhb>
bbigras: Sorry to hear that :( which country?
<bbigras>
eyJhb: Canada
<bbigras>
only people living alone were allowed to have visit from 1 person I think.
<bbigras>
I think a lot of people ignored that and now we have a curfew at 20:00.
<bbigras>
also probably caused by the dumbass Christmas travellers
<eyJhb>
Some dumbasses from my group at uni decided to have a christmas party, 50% got COVID-19 :D
<bbigras>
wow. it reminds me of the "Cat's birthday party leads to COVID-19 outbreak" headline
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<{^_^}>
Nasa Spaceflight estimates SN9 launch in 60-90 Minutes. Pad is cleared. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHqbahPKpY: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<gchristensen>
nice
<srk>
packed two launches into one window? :)
<infinisil>
Nah
<infinisil>
SN10 is just on the pad already
<srk>
yeah, reading that it waits for cryo proof tests and new engines
<infinisil>
Well, I guess they could do two tests at once, but I doubt it
<srk>
it would make sense if windows are scarce
<srk>
launching one is probably difficult enough currently anyway :)
<infinisil>
Hmm yeah, and it's annoying to always evacuate people
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<siraben>
texlive.combined.scheme-full is so big >.<
<infinisil>
siraben: I've just been selecting the packages I need from it instead
<pie_>
welll...me any my exams...but re: there were good tutorials
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<pie_>
so luckily this is rooted, the next problem is that the touchscreen and glass are kinda broken, and it keeps pushing stuff, so i need to figure out how to turn it off
<pie_>
it has a usb port :3 and keyboard and mouse work
<pie_>
hm i wonder if it could run nix on droid :P
<pie_>
its like android 2 th
<pie_>
*tho
<pie_>
2012 build
<eyJhb>
What phone is it?
<pie_>
its a viewsonic gtablet
<pie_>
my dad got it for me when i was like...16? even though i kept telling him a laptop would be a lot more useful :p
<pie_>
its running some crippled busybox, i cant list the kernel modules
<philipp[m]1>
We have tank farm activity.
<infinisil>
Ayy
<eyJhb>
Wait what?!???
<pie_>
or theres just no dynamic kernel modules
<pie_>
lsmod runs but shows nothing
<pie_>
samueldr: any idea what i could do with this thing
<eyJhb>
Build a museum!
<pie_>
i dont have an indiana jones hat sadly
<philipp[m]1>
My hardened gentoo on a laptop running friend (don't kinkshame!) also disabled dynamic kernel loading and just builds it completely statically.
<V>
Oh, I know someone who runs (ran?) Gentoo like that
<ar>
speaking of custom kernels
<ar>
anyone knows why nixos doesn't have NO_HZ_FULL enabled by-default?
<ar>
without extra kernel options (kernelParams = [ "nohz_full=1-15" "rcu_nocbs=1-15" ];) it should behave as it does right now
<energizer>
there were some tools for getting the output of common unix commands into structured format. ring a bell for anybody?
<averell>
how structured? like mount | column -t ?
<{^_^}>
engine chill started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHqbahPKpY: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<philipp[m]1>
\o/
<infinisil>
\o/
<pie_>
ok unplugging the digitizer was pretty easy
<pie_>
i have firfoy 27 on it :D
<infinisil>
,launch imminent!
<{^_^}>
imminent!: Ping for space stuff (edit this command to add yourself, see ",help"): infinisil Taneb ldlework etu philipp[m] eyJhb gchristensen __red__ red red[evilred]
<pie_>
averell: i *coukd* use it as a rather bad external screen
<gchristensen>
wow
<ar>
liftoff
<samueldr>
good commentary
<samueldr>
much BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
<gchristensen>
is that side spew on purpose?
<samueldr>
it has to set itself horizontal
<gchristensen>
ah
<samueldr>
it's going to ICBM itself
<samueldr>
this time hopefully not actually annihilating what's at the target
<samueldr>
hm, maybe no horizontal this time?
<samueldr>
ah no, here it is, the thing that looks like it just started falling
<ar>
flop
<gchristensen>
it looks so fake
<ar>
yeah
<samueldr>
gchristensen: did you see the previous flight?
<gchristensen>
no
<samueldr>
because here's the fun part
<samueldr>
oh no
<gchristensen>
whoops! (yay)
<samueldr>
last time it looked way better, totally vertical, was starting to go slower
<samueldr>
but never stopped going down even when it hit the ground
<philipp[m]1>
Vroom and Bloom!
<philipp[m]1>
*Booom!
<Taneb>
I was watching that in a group video chat and someone in the call got a trumpet out and did a wa-wa-wa-waaaa of dissapointment
<ar>
samueldr: this time 2nd raptor didn't ignite at all
<gchristensen>
and the piece that went flying
<samueldr>
yeah, I'm listening too :)
<gchristensen>
pretty cool
<samueldr>
gchristensen: look the SN8 flight, from the flop to the end