<colemickens>
anyone here use mailspring? sounds like it's (on the way to being) all OSS now?
<colemickens>
not sure I'm willing to adopt a new electron app though
<colemickens>
cole-h: are you full on migrating, just testing the waters?
<cole-h>
yes :P
<colemickens>
cole-h: I just feel like there's some inner adult in me telling me not to do it, even though I really want to get off gmail and don't like any of other options I've found.
<colemickens>
in reality though, I'm good at keeping nixos boxes up. maybe I should do it too.
<cole-h>
right now just messing around. can't really completely migrate since I got my domain through google -- gmail is permanent, but probably not main
<supersandro2000>
cole-h: set lower TTLs
<colemickens>
you could always transfer it?
<cole-h>
I guess, but pretty sure I'd need an email to sign up for wherever I transfer it to
<colemickens>
heh right
<cole-h>
supersandro2000: So I should set a super low TTL to start and then set it back to normal once I can ping and stuff?
<colemickens>
this looks so easy to do...
<colemickens>
cole-h: are you going to sync from outlook to this, too?
<cole-h>
probably not
<colemickens>
oh good for you :)
<cole-h>
:P
<colemickens>
I have sympathetic data fomo on your behalf.
<cole-h>
not like I'll delete my outlook account tbf
<cole-h>
or rather I'm not planning on it
<colemickens>
makes sense. I have this weird obsession about trying to get everything into one place. I still have this fantasy of some day importing my 12 years of text history, chats, etc all into a Matrix homeserver.
<cole-h>
I would try to keep my email all in one place if I knew there was no chicken-or-egg problem with that
<cole-h>
but since I need to have an external email account anyways, meh
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<supersandro2000>
cole-h: you would have need to do that before
<supersandro2000>
you could also bust all the dns caches
<supersandro2000>
for domain and so you should keep an external mail
<supersandro2000>
not that they send you a mail on your mail that your mail is no longer
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<ashkitten>
wonder if a wayland compositor shim would be possible, that would go between the compositor and clients and let you restart the compositor without messing everything up
<ashkitten>
so the compositor comes back up and the shim just acts like all the clients are newly connecting
<Taneb>
What if you want to restart the shim
<ashkitten>
sol
<ashkitten>
but the point of the shim is to be minimal so it wouldn't have issues you'd need to restart it for, and it would never crash in theory
<__monty__>
Hmm, I hope this wouldn't promote shitty compositors though. "Who cares it crashes, we have the shim so just restart the compositor. #notourproblemnomo"
<ashkitten>
lol
<ashkitten>
yeah, idk
<ashkitten>
it was more an interesting concept
<adisbladis>
ashkitten: And what if that shim had an API so you could even switch compositors live!
<adisbladis>
Basically X11, but on wayland :P
<adisbladis>
That would be really nice though
<adisbladis>
Except then I'd be forced to use libinput, so that's still not good :/
<Ashy>
libinput has been refusing to let me use some of my usb mice recently because the fd is in use already
<Ashy>
fairly ridiculous, plug it in, works for about half a second then stops and the journal has logs to that effect
<Ashy>
a reboot would probably fix it but who has time for that?
<philipp[m]1>
adisbladis: Stlil clinging to your touchpad scroll hack?
<srk>
gnome shell can restart like that on crash iirc :)
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<ar>
srk: they reexec themselves in signal handler?
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<adisbladis>
philipp[m]1: Yes
<srk>
ar: not sure how it's implemented
<adisbladis>
You can pry it out of my cold, dead hands
<adisbladis>
It makes the touchpad actually usable
<adisbladis>
Instead of just in the way
<talyz>
adisbladis: :D
<ar>
adisbladis: what touchpad scroll hack?
<philipp[m]1>
Expanding the borders of the touchpad in a way that makes the whole touchpad only scroll the screen.
<adisbladis>
It expands the edge scrolling to the entire touchpad
<adisbladis>
It's hacky AF
<adisbladis>
But works
<adisbladis>
So I use the trackpoint with my middle finger and can scroll with my thumb
<ar>
i used to have something similiar ages ago, but done with acceleration/cursor speed
<__monty__>
That's evil genius levels of kludge : D
<ar>
and it still required two fingers on touchpad
<adisbladis>
__monty__: Hey my duct tape works excellent
<philipp[m]1>
I can confirm that it is quite nice.
<crazazy[m]>
im sad. Apperently you can not switch nixos configs without giving all users the possibilty of logging into root without priviliges
<talyz>
I made that hack for the useless clickpads on X240
<__monty__>
I find duck tape is a much better tool. It can do double-duty for rubberducking.
<crazazy[m]>
if you try to expire and lock the root password, nixos-rebuild will ask you to create a new password
<adisbladis>
Yeah, I've just been carrying the hack talyz made around and ported it over to multiple laptops
<eyJhb>
Am I the only one that has just disabled the touchpad ?
<__monty__>
crazazy[m]: Check out home-manager if you want users to manage their own environments maybe?
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: Why disable it when you can make it useful?
<eyJhb>
Because I really don't like the feel of it, and NEVER use it
<eyJhb>
I only use the red dot :p
<adisbladis>
eyJhb: But imagine it was a scrollpad
<eyJhb>
Watch me go jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
<eyJhb>
:D
<talyz>
I don't use it anymore, but adisbladis keeps it alive :D
<__monty__>
Weird, thinkpad trackpads are generally pretty good in my experience, tiny, but serviceable.
<crazazy[m]>
__monty__: how does home-manager prevent the problem of non-privileged `su` usage
<eyJhb>
I rarely have any applications I scroll in, with actual scroll... :D
<adisbladis>
talyz: I was using a patched libinput for a short while
<adisbladis>
But... Painful..
<eyJhb>
__monty__: AGreed, but mine has this dot surface
<eyJhb>
Which is not that nice to touch
<__monty__>
crazazy[m]: Because it doesn't involve running nixos-rebuild switch.
<talyz>
__monty__: it was a very weird generation where the trackpoint buttons were integrated into the touchpad and you had to push down the whole pad to press a button
<__monty__>
I'm familiar with it and don't mind it, reduces static friction.
<__monty__>
talyz: That does sound horrible.
<__monty__>
I don't like trackpads that move like a button.
<talyz>
it really was, and scrolling with the middle button was almost impossible, hence the hack :)
<crazazy[m]>
but if i need to change my system outside of my personal applications (login manager etc...) then I can't use home-manager for that right
<crazazy[m]>
you can re-set the root pw afterward with `sudo passwd root`
<__monty__>
crazazy[m]: I've been doing this forever. The `sudo nixos-rebuild switch` part and have never had to re-set root's password.
<crazazy[m]>
oh thats strange
<eyJhb>
also, just saying crazazy[m] , you just need to write `sudo passwd`, it default so UID 0 as far as I remember ie. root:p
<patagonicus>
passwd defaults to changing the current user's password. sudo passwd makes passwd think that the current user is root, so it's changing root's password.
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<eyJhb>
patagonicus: Damn it! Yes that is what it is :D
<eyJhb>
Thank you, the other thing sounded odd to me as well
<eyJhb>
bbigras: Assuming the castblock? Thinking of packaging it! But only after tommorow. I except anybody seeing me open a PR for it before tomorrow at 09:00 GMT, telling me to do some actual work instead
<bbigras>
eyJhb: yeah castblock. nice. ping me if you want me to review the PR.
<eyJhb>
Will do bbigras ! :D
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<eyJhb>
(hopefully it can be combined with a little module example, but I don't think that should be merged into nixpkgs however, seems to small to do that)
<{^_^}>
undefined variable 'jupiter' at (string):472:8
<gchristensen>
> timeTo timeTo
<{^_^}>
value is a function while a set was expected, at /var/lib/nixbot/lib/date.nix:45:13
<rmcgibbo[m]>
does anyone know why i can't find #nixos-dev in matrix even if i search under "All rooms" or "freenode rooms", but I can find it just find on freenode?
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<jtojnar>
rmcgibbo: no idea, I just end up opening the room address manually #freenode_#nixos-dev:matrix.org