gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
<jtojnar> is it possible to set two space indentation to visually render as 4+ spaces in some editor?
<jtojnar> especially when using proportional font
<worldofpeace> I think vscode does this, it would always mess with me when reading source files with 8 space indent :)
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<raboof> Proportional fonts ftw :D
<ashkitten> ugh. apparently firefox 71 breaks riot
<ashkitten> need to take a look tomorrow at how other distros fixed that issue in their builds
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<eyJhb> Having to buy new tires for the winter is always fun... "Best in test, 2019"
<__monty__> *tested in the sahara dessert.
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<eyJhb> __monty__: don't give them good ideas! :(
<eyJhb> >DKK 2835
<eyJhb> > DKK 2835
<{^_^}> "2835 DKK = 425.250000 USD"
<eyJhb> Hope they will last a long time, but hopefully I won't die this winter then
<__monty__> Do you need snow tires in DK?
<__monty__> Afaics it's a total scam here.
<gchristensen> I need snow tires where I am
<__monty__> I can imagine. No need for chains?
<gchristensen> not quite, they might be useful one day a year and I can just not go out that day
<Taneb> I avoid needing snow tyres by a) not living anywhere that gets serious snow, and b) not driving
<Taneb> Although I understand that's not an option for many people
<gchristensen> I could not live here, that could be an option
<Taneb> Even I think moving so you don't need snow tyres is a tad extreme
<gchristensen> :P
<__monty__> True, much easier to opt for daily-driving a tank.
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<Taneb> Ugh, I dislike computers
<Irenes[m]> Yes. Computers are horrible and nobody should use them.
<__monty__> They are horrible. More people should learn to use them though.
<MichaelRaskin> I would say most of the horribleness of computers is incidental to the technical notion of computers (but unfortunately, often central to business model of companies producing them…)
<Irenes[m]> Humanity enjoys torturing itself
<Taneb> I think more precisely, I dislike sloppiness in areas where precision is attainable
<Irenes[m]> That is certainly fair
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<Taneb> I also dislike when things seem to have gone out of their way to convenience themselves at my expense, especially when trying to package things with nix
<__monty__> You mean putting off proper declaration of dependencies because "it works on all distros anyway?"
<Taneb> That sort of thing
<Taneb> The one I'm dealing with right now is fetching the dependencies from GitHub in CMake
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<eyJhb> __monty__: it drops in the minus degrees so yeah, you are basically iceskating in your car if you don't have them
<eyJhb> And it snows a whole bunch in DK, not like meters but even just a couple of centimeters will have most cars spin
<__monty__> Sounds like careless driving. We've never spun a FWD.
<Taneb> (is that front-wheel-drive or four-wheel-drive?)
<eyJhb> Taneb: front wheel drive
<eyJhb> __monty__: not spun like that, in some corners yes but that is black ice. But breaking and getting traction is tough
<__monty__> Definitely more extreme weather than here then.
<eyJhb> You aren't that far away from me, as far as I recall
<eyJhb> Don't you get negative degrees __monty__ ?
<__monty__> Sure but cars slipping's rare.
<eyJhb> Weird, there are SO many accidents once the first snow hits because people haven't changed tires
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<ashkitten> is it just me or does firefox-bin run better than firefox
<gchristensen> in what way?
<ashkitten> like, it seemed to load faster and behave a bit better
<{^_^}> #76484 (by ivan, 2 days ago, open): firefox is slower than firefox-bin
<__monty__> 20% is quite a performance hit.
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<ashkitten> huh
<ashkitten> i switched to firefox-bin because riot is broken in our build of firefox
<ashkitten> apparently an issue with many distros' builds
<ashkitten> unsure what the others did to fix it
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<andi-> ashkitten: we should have a patch appplied on it
<ashkitten> patch doesnt work
<ashkitten> either way im fine rn
<ashkitten> btw does jack have a way you can automatically route applications to outputs like pulse?
<andi-> ashkitten: is this the same issue as https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/75818 ?
<{^_^}> #75818 (by pbogdan, 1 week ago, open): LastPass extension not working with FF 71.
<ashkitten> unclear
<ashkitten> pulse has a default sink but also automatically saves settings for application streams so when an application opens more streams or you relaunch that application it'll automatically route the same as before
<ashkitten> i wonder if someone's made that for jack?
<ashkitten> that was the reason i couldnt use jack when i tried
<andi-> ashkitten: what happens if you try to use riot on FF71 with our source build? I'd like to reproduce and finally fix that.
<ldlework> Final Fantasy 71
<ashkitten> when i receive an encrypted message it says my client doesn't have the keys for it, and gives an option to request keys from other devices (which does trigger a key request dialog on my phone, but does nothing after confirmation). i can restore keys from backup and it successfully decrypts messages but new messages afterward won't decrypt. i can send messages to an unencrypted chat, but if i try to an
<ashkitten> encrypted chat it just tells me the message wasn't sent
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<andi-> ashkitten: I patched FFX a bit more, mind opening a chat with @andi-:matrix.org ?
<andi-> I'd like to see if this fixes the issues
<ashkitten> not up to messing with it
<andi-> well then it remains broken.. not my issue..