<joepie91>
because no project is complete without LEDs :D
<gchristensen>
hah!
<gchristensen>
nice :D
<joepie91>
that took like 3 hours to make
<joepie91>
2.5 of which was spent hunting for the components and tools in my already-packed-for-impending-house-move boxes...
<joepie91>
:|
<joepie91>
soldering a few LEDs has never been this much work before :P
<joepie91>
anyway, it works, and the solder joints are fine despite the haphazard setup and using my not-great battery-powered soldering iron
<joepie91>
so \o/
<joepie91>
now off to sleep I go :P
<gchristensen>
g'night!
<joepie91>
night!
<Guanin>
Would you guys recommend using borg or restic for backups? Both seem to have a nixos module available, so I'm kind of indecisive
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<manveru>
so my biggest gripe with flakes is that `dev-shell` requires bash... and no support from direnv/lorri yet of course
<manveru>
the rest seems pretty neat :)
<manveru>
other than that you probably have to download nixpkgs twice for your desired version... but i'm sure that'll improve once it's in nixpkgs proper
<joepie91>
wait wait wait
<joepie91>
manveru: "dev-shell"?
<manveru>
yeah
<manveru>
`nix dev-shell`, it uses the `devShell` attribute from the flake kinda like `nix-shell` used the `shell.nix`
<eyJhb>
But the vim integration is.. weird to say the least gchristensen :p
<eyJhb>
Wish there was something waaaay more lightweight like that, without all the other clutter
<eyJhb>
300-400 mb for the compressed Docker image for HackMD :(
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<ashkitten>
i don't know much about virtualization and less about gpus but could you achieve some sort of api-level hardware acceleration with something like dxvk?
<tilpner>
gchristensen: It looks bad, but is there any real problem with having spam comments on ofborg gists? And if yes, can you turn them private/unlisted?
<gchristensen>
the problem is my inbox
<tilpner>
Why do you get notifications for comments on GrahamcOfBorg gists?
<tilpner>
(Or emails)
<gchristensen>
because if github decides ofborg is doing bad things, I want them to be able to trivially contact me
<tilpner>
You already link to your main account in GrahamcOfBorgs user description, I would hope that's enough
<gchristensen>
I wouldn't make that assumption
<tilpner>
(But yes, that assumes a human looks at it)
<gchristensen>
that is a big assumption
<tilpner>
I don't know. A bot can only reliably handle "You are misbehaving, please stop" interactions, without you replying and explaining how you're not misbehaving
<gchristensen>
they could revoke the credentials
<ashkitten>
couldn't you turn off notifications for everything you don't consider important?
<ashkitten>
if github needs to contact you they won't be going through the default notification channels
<gchristensen>
in general, I consider the emails to ofborg to be important
<gchristensen>
I've tuned them pretty well
<ashkitten>
ah
<gchristensen>
but lately
<tilpner>
I reported the user, but I don't have high hopes that'll stop anyone for long
<gchristensen>
but recently there has been a ton of mega-obvious spam
<gchristensen>
yeah, and that user is only one of about 30-50 who have posted the exact some comment
<tilpner>
Automatic reports? c.c
<tilpner>
(No, bad idea)
<ashkitten>
im thinking of moving my garbo over to gitea
<ashkitten>
but i also want it to be easy to collaborate
<ashkitten>
might have to wait until federated git becomes commonplace
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* tilpner
can hear send-patches-over-email crowd laughing in the distance
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<ashkitten>
yeah i know
<ashkitten>
i dont care, frankly
<ashkitten>
i don't use that workflow and theres more to collaboration than sending patches
<ashkitten>
or even just having email conversations
<tilpner>
I've never submitted a patch via email, I'm afraid fo email
<tilpner>
*of
<ashkitten>
i don't like email either
<tilpner>
But I'm slightly jealous of how that seems to counter the GH lock-in we have, to some extent
<ashkitten>
im not old enough to have email be a part of my normal internet life tbqh
<ashkitten>
a lot of ppl older than me had email a lot more ingrained as the de facto communication medium for many things
<tilpner>
And if you have to talk to any of them, you'll probably have to use their preferred medium
<tilpner>
It feels like writing a letter, and I take forever to write letters
<ashkitten>
same
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<ashkitten>
i dont have anything against email but it's not how i learned to use the internet
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<ashkitten>
by the time i was online google plus existed >,,>
<ashkitten>
barely existed, but existed
<ashkitten>
i wasnt really in any online communities before i hit my teens lol
<ashkitten>
there's also the thing where email isn't the same as it used to be
<ashkitten>
you have to mangle your client into working how you want
<tilpner>
Now that you say it... my freenode account is a few months younger than G+ would be if it still existed
<tilpner>
Yeah, I still don't have GPG in Thunderbird because Enigmail refuses to use my subkeys
<ashkitten>
theres pages of instructions for how to configure various email clients to interact with mailing lists and such
<ashkitten>
and people on mailing lists will yell at you for doing it wrong
<gchristensen>
in general, I just don't send mail and I like it that way.
<tilpner>
What were the alternatives though?
<gchristensen>
ignoring it
<tilpner>
Forcing everyone to request accounts on your project-specific bugtracker?
<gchristensen>
not using computers
<tilpner>
And then have them never get back to you, because they'll never log in again?
<ashkitten>
gchristensen: the dream
<tilpner>
Yes, that's a good idea, let's do that
<tilpner>
/quit bye
<ashkitten>
i want federated github-likes
<tilpner>
Speaking of email... GH Support just sent me 2 (!) confirmation that they received my report
<samueldr>
the form was bugged out for me
<tilpner>
They only differ in that one of them calls me by my name
<samueldr>
but when I used *another* github page, the flash message with the error showed up :/
<tilpner>
*confirmation mails
* tilpner
can't type today (once again)
<samueldr>
it confused me since I navigated to another page way after
<gchristensen>
yeah they've been sending duplicate confirmations all week
<tilpner>
Huh
<gchristensen>
this is all par for their support in my experience
<ashkitten>
so the thing about email is it's not exactly extensible and doesn't gracefully handle things that don't degrade to plaintext. that's why i think there should be something as flexible as email that can handle many different message types for one identity and be used by many different clients that handle different message types
<gchristensen>
MIME! :)
<ashkitten>
yeah, but the current ecosystem is centered around plaintext and i don't see anything changing that
<ashkitten>
i want generic activitypub servers that can handle any message type and serve clients that handle the specifics of whatever type of thing they do
<ashkitten>
so you can have a git patch message type, etc
<aanderse>
I'm looking forward to something replacing e-mail, but expect to be waiting another 20 years :-\
<ashkitten>
ofc doesnt have to be activitypub, but activitypub is something i want to see flourish as a generic server
<ashkitten>
actually, i might mess around and try and make my own generic activitypub server...
<ashkitten>
it'll only speak S2S and C2S, and i'll write clients that speak C2S
<tilpner>
ashkitten: My activitypub knowledge is lacking, but I've been recommended to avoid small servers because my replies might not reach people
<tilpner>
I know email isn't entirely reliable either, but do you think this would be a problem for replacing email with activitypub?
<ashkitten>
replies not reaching people is not an issue i've ever encountered
<gchristensen>
one of the problems about replacing email, is it is ubiquitious and pretty good
<samueldr>
good enough, and already special-cased everywhere
<samueldr>
HTTP is the modern equivalent to TCP, SMTP is the modern equivalent to UDP, fight me
<samueldr>
(no please don't)
<gchristensen>
oh dear
<gchristensen>
EHLO
<ashkitten>
honestly im thinking of letting things speak msgpack over http to my server in addition to json
<ashkitten>
you can structure msgpack exactly the same as json
<ashkitten>
it's just more efficient to en/decode
<ashkitten>
that's more of an implementation detail, though
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<eyJhb>
Do we have a karmacheck function?
<samueldr>
no, and it would be vain :)
<eyJhb>
samueldr: would be nice just if it could be displayed for yourself for fun :D Not like a scoreboard
<samueldr>
you have to remember it from the last time someone updooted you
<eyJhb>
:( I can't remember the last time someone updooted me tbh.
<samueldr>
blergh, lightdm spewing logs in /var/log directly is cramping my style
<infinisil>
eyJhb: you can see your karma for a fee of 1 karma
<cransom>
samueldr: the OSI model is glaring in your general direction, re: http/tcp.
<samueldr>
the updated OSI model is: Layer 0: ethernet cable and air, Layer 1: "networking software", Layer 2: HTTP or SMTP
<samueldr>
after all, it is 2019
<cransom>
i wonder where all the rfcs are that add json support for smtp headers.
<eyJhb>
infinisil++
<{^_^}>
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<eyJhb>
Pay up :D
<samueldr>
that's not the intended interpretation of the message, and I think you know it :)
<eyJhb>
Oh
<eyJhb>
eyJhb++
<{^_^}>
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<eyJhb>
I am somewhat tired samueldr :D
<eyJhb>
22.51 here, and I should be alseep a long time ago...
<samueldr>
:3
<samueldr>
in a galaxy far away
<infinisil>
Hehe
<eyJhb>
Precisely, and I have to catch a plane tomorrow :D
<infinisil>
eyJhb++
<{^_^}>
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<eyJhb>
But I am also in the progress of making milk-slices :D