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<ldlework>
So I'm playing this game called "Tea For God". It's in VR and it uses non-euclidian geometry to make a finite playspace, infinitely large. It tricks you, and you end up just walking around the same limited space but never notice. It's absolutely mind blowing.
<gchristensen>
:o
<jasongrossman>
ldlework: Reminds me of playing go on a torus, although I guess it's more dynamic than that.
<jasongrossman>
samueldr: They have Ford Tauruses here in Australia too, but you can't play go on them. The stones fall off. Because of gravity going the other way.
<ldlework>
I just took my Quest outside into the parking lot and played with the maximum 25x25m space
<ldlework>
soooooooo weird
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<ldlework>
you can just keep walking and walking!
<samueldr>
american as like toyota are japanese cars :)
<ldlework>
you step out of a door after rounding a corner and you're just in a massive cathedral
<ldlework>
so fricken cool
<jasongrossman>
samueldr: Yes, OK, American in that sense.
<jasongrossman>
ldlework: \o/
<samueldr>
too bad, I couldn't find a good pun with groan/grown
<ldlework>
there were a number of long winding cooridors
<ldlework>
i literally ran down them!
<ldlework>
running in vr!
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<eyJhb>
joepie91: from the tracking number from Banggood, it looks like it ships til NL first, then DK
<eyJhb>
But I am just very much guessing based on LX--------NL
<talyz>
jasongrossman: I'm also vegan and a bit of a headphone geek, so I guess there's quite a bunch of us (well, at least three ;)
<eyJhb>
talyz: _dozens_ ;) :p
<talyz>
eyJhb: yep :D
<eyJhb>
talyz: are you a SQL wiz? ;)
<joepie91>
eyJhb: interesting, first time I've heard of it going through NL
<joepie91>
eyJhb: you ordered from the china warehouse?
<eyJhb>
joepie91: I have no clue if it actually does, but .. It just somewhat looks like it. - It was the only ones who had it I assume
<jackdk>
a lot of chinese stuff goes through NL post for some reason
<joepie91>
I probably just never notice because I'm in NL :)
<joepie91>
but that's probably that agreement between china post and postnl
<etu>
And DK will be filled in later on when the package is on the way
<eyJhb>
Then I just have to wait forever for my programmer for my BIOS......
<eyJhb>
And I should properly get a graphics card I can use for it at some point
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<joepie91>
eyJhb: it likely got shipped with a container to NL and distributed from there
<joepie91>
to save costs
<joepie91>
ie. it still originates from China, it just goes through NL as its distribution point
<eyJhb>
As long as I get it fast fast fast, then it is all fine by me ;) Also paied the extra... 3 DKK to get it within 14 days, instead of 30+ days
<eyJhb>
God damn it, I am modifying a slice in go, in another function, hence.. The slice will also be modified outside the function, since it points to locations in the memory..
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<talyz>
eyJhb: Not really, unfortunately
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<jasongrossman>
talyz: Wow! Amazing! What kind of headphones? ("What kind of vegan?" probably wouldn't be as interesting a question, even though it's more important.)
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<jasongrossman>
,tell talyz Wow! Amazing! What kind of headphones? ("What kind of vegan?" probably wouldn't be as interesting a question, even though it's more important.)
<{^_^}>
jasongrossman: I'll pass that on to talyz
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<eyJhb>
I love that I got some "secret file", but the password does not work for the files, at all
<eyJhb>
Any recommendations for a GUI for archives?
<samueldr>
I use file-roller
<samueldr>
though I generally end up using `file-roller -h $file` and not its gui
<eyJhb>
samueldr: so it just automatically guesses how to extract?
<eyJhb>
Just tried it, no dice. Hoped i was doing something wrong with the pw
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
and `-h` also extracts to a subdir when it would otherwise clobber the current dir
<eyJhb>
Anyone up for cracking 16 chars, ascii? :p
<eyJhb>
Ahh, seems nice
<samueldr>
is it a password you know, or a password you copy/pasted?
<eyJhb>
Might use that actually
<eyJhb>
Both
<eyJhb>
Or
<eyJhb>
It is a password i recieved in a email
<samueldr>
entered it without pasting?, in the past I had issues with accidental inclusion of chars in a pasted password
<samueldr>
like maybe a newline or space
<samueldr>
just saying
<eyJhb>
In the form of the typical, remember it using this phrase, MONKEY 7 { tree ZEBRA LION 8 etc.
<eyJhb>
Might try it, but it sucks typing in => no echo back
<samueldr>
yeah
<eyJhb>
Yeah, no dice
<eyJhb>
I think he might have f*cked up when he put in the password
<eyJhb>
It is a love hate relationship with special chars and password in cli
<eyJhb>
Mostly hate
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<eyJhb>
Holy hell
<gchristensen>
eyJhb: hrm?
<eyJhb>
gchristensen: just andi- d/c :p
<gchristensen>
ah
<andi->
I was bisecting my weechat nixos module ;-)
<gchristensen>
nice
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<andi->
Can't reproduce the error anymore :(
<ldlework>
is this weechat module in nixpkgs?
<gchristensen>
there is one in nixpkgs, but I realllly don't understand why
<gchristensen>
I feel it should be removed
<andi->
I have a verify custom approach to it. I also manage the plugins and their dependencies using Nix.. Should upstream that to nixpkgs (not nixos)
<ldlework>
Why have a ZNC module but not a Weechat module?
<gchristensen>
well it just starts weechat-curses inside a screen session
<andi->
I think it is useful for people that want to get started with weechat. For any more advanced use case that module is not suited.
<gchristensen>
probably better for the wiki
<ldlework>
gchristensen: oh i was referring to the high-level configuration module I keep hearing whispers about
<gchristensen>
gotcha, yeah that 'd be cool
<gchristensen>
I use nix to manage its plugins but not the config
<ldlework>
I should do that at least
<ldlework>
I just have a seperate private git repo for my entire .weechat right now
<ldlework>
:(
<ldlework>
it's probably the largest blemish on my nixos config
<gchristensen>
I like my weechat config being dynmic
<gchristensen>
for example it saves every time I join / leave a channel, and also it auto-sorts all my chats
<gchristensen>
oh how handy, if I direct my browser at port 9100 of this printer, it prints my request headers
<andi->
sounds like a printer you want to have
<gchristensen>
yeah I like that a lot
<andi->
pdf2fs $file | nc $printer 9100
<andi->
*pdf2ps
<gchristensen>
journalctl -f | nc printer 9100
<andi->
lol
<gchristensen>
oh god it needs \r. \n isn't enough
<joepie91>
ah yes, port 9100
<andi->
tr to the rescue? :D
<joepie91>
surprisingly many printers do this
<gchristensen>
yeah, so that is really handy
<joepie91>
you can also send postscript to it on that port
<joepie91>
iirc it auto-detects whether it's postscript or plaintext
<gchristensen>
I can't get it to join my wireless network though, because it seems to require some proprietary HP software to setup
<gchristensen>
so I have to join its wireless network
<ashkitten>
whaaa? i want a printer that i can pipe plaintext to
<gchristensen>
LaserJet Pro M118dw -- $129 at Staples
<ashkitten>
too bad im saving my money for a cpu and motherboard... and don't actually need a printer
<gchristensen>
it is okay you probably don't want a printer anyway
<joepie91>
nobody wants a printer
<joepie91>
:P
<gchristensen>
^
<makefu>
ashkitten: get a receipt printer with parallel or serial port
<makefu>
you can echo LOL > /dev/ttyS1
<ashkitten>
lol
<makefu>
journalctl -f > /dev/ttyS1
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<andi->
I always joke about banks having those devices somewhere printing every transaction connected to a machine that allows "rewinding" the process by scanning transactions after the database crashed.
<gchristensen>
lol!
<andi->
If *I* would be in charge of a bank I'd totally do that...
<gchristensen>
maybe with magnetic ink so you could read it off magnetically
<gchristensen>
so who is coming in 40min?
<andi->
ooohhh right
<andi->
I can probably do that
<gchristensen>
w00t
<ashkitten>
hmm
<ashkitten>
have they fixed the thing where you need to export GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE yet
<gchristensen>
> wrt Zoom: I know it is unfree, and this may make some people not want to participate. However, it is the most reliable video conferencing tool I have used so far. Again, this is experimental, so we could switch down the road. However, this is what we’re going to do for now. -- https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-office-hours/2762/10?u=grahamc
<{^_^}>
error: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting ')', at (string):255:9
<joepie91>
gchristensen: was more referring to their recent security fuckup :)
<joepie91>
not really software I want to install, personally, considering that
<gchristensen>
no worries
<gchristensen>
in that thread ekleog offers instructions to use Zoom without the client application
<joepie91>
I just get stuck on " Please click OK if you see the system dialog."
<andi->
I'll try to client for once.. Heard from many zoom would be good. Maybe I can be surprised.
<gchristensen>
not sure, sorry
<joepie91>
oh, is this another of those chrome-only thing
<gchristensen>
zoom is pretty good, I really like it
<joepie91>
things*
<aanderse>
hmm... almost time
<joepie91>
yep, it works from chromium
<joepie91>
just not from firefox
<gchristensen>
good to know
<etu>
It's plain webrtc really iirc?
<kraem>
wow supermicro's ftp is superduper slow :O
<gchristensen>
tftp?
<ekleog>
joepie91: yup, got it to work only from chromium
<kraem>
gchristensen: sorry i don't follow :P should i be using it? is it because they are that it is slow?
<ekleog>
not sure yet why and it's a PITA, but…
<eyJhb>
We used Zoom for our Africa project, most werent fans :/
<gchristensen>
kraem: are you sure you're not using tftp?
<gchristensen>
it would be nice if it wasn't a record heat wave outside for the first office hours.
<kraem>
gchristensen: i'm using the fetchUrl function and it says it's trying a ftp address
<samueldr>
oof, the sound is terrible here :/
* samueldr
tries another device
<andi->
so far zoom works for me. it didn't pick up my bluetooth headset after connecting to it even after moving the output in pavcontrol. After a restart it works :-)
<samueldr>
I was connecting through only-chrome
<samueldr>
(ium(
<talyz>
jasongrossman: Well, nothing as fancy as the stax, but my critical listening ones are the HD650s and for on-the-go listening I have the QC35s :)
<{^_^}>
talyz: 4 hours, 22 minutes ago <jasongrossman> Wow! Amazing! What kind of headphones? ("What kind of vegan?" probably wouldn't be as interesting a question, even though it's more important.)
<eyJhb>
Waaaiit...
<eyJhb>
How can we just stalk you without you being able to see we are stalking you?
* samueldr
wonders about using obs to stream it for public consumption / archiving (and if it'd be desired)
<talyz>
jasongrossman: Haha, I guess not :) I don't really know how you would type vegans.. Maybe ethical vs. health focused vs. new age:y..?
<eyJhb>
samueldr: do so I can stalk, plz and thank you
<samueldr>
I'm not setup to, sorry
<samueldr>
you can jump in without video nor audio if desired
<samueldr>
(and it'd be rude since it's not expected to be streamed/archived I think)
<eyJhb>
Well, I would, but it would properly kill my pc
<eyJhb>
Blender + YT + Zoom + Intel HD Graphics 4000 => Death
<samueldr>
oh boy, that screen share killed my zoom
<gchristensen>
samueldr: oops...
<samueldr>
don't worry, not your fault,
<samueldr>
it began weirding and glitching out in weeeeeeird ways
<samueldr>
the chromeos client is... weirdly buggy
<samueldr>
(haven't compared it to any others though)
<aanderse>
that worked well
<andi->
argh that BT mode switched to atpX instead of headset mode /o\ That is why that stuff wouldn't show any input.
<aanderse>
thanks for hosting gchristensen
<andi->
gchristensen++
<{^_^}>
gchristensen's karma got increased to 126
<gchristensen>
thank you for coming!
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<gchristensen>
how was Zoom's video / audio quality over all?
<__monty__>
Maybe you should turn it into a proper podcast?
<gchristensen>
O.o
<gchristensen>
did you come, __monty__ ?
<__monty__>
No, went to the beach.
<gchristensen>
good choice
<gchristensen>
I've had someone suggest a podcast, but I really don't want to be just another dude doing a podcast
<__monty__>
Was it interesting?
<gchristensen>
I don't think I can judge that
<__monty__>
Thing with streaming/your office hours. Is that it's really hard to set time apart for something like this, especially cross timezones.
<andi->
The audio quality (receiving end) was top notch here.
<gchristensen>
so very hard
<andi->
There were some hickups but those seemd to be bandwidth related on the sending end
<__monty__>
Hence why I'd probably be more likely to be able to enjoy the talk if recordings were made available : )
<gchristensen>
__monty__: I thought I had recorded it, but the "automatically record this meeting to the cloud" didn't
<__monty__>
Also don't feel like I have anything to contribute so would prefer to listen somewhere I can't accidentally be heard tbh.
<samueldr>
gchristensen: on my nixos computer the sound (not anyone's) was terrible, like it was missing half the data
<gchristensen>
:o
<samueldr>
that was through chromium only
<samueldr>
though, on a chromeos device, (aarch64) it worked fine...
<samueldr>
... well audio/video wise... the software isn't goodon a tablet chromeos device
<gchristensen>
ohh
<samueldr>
when fullscreened it started to act in wrong ways
<samueldr>
and some actions required the use of a mouse... which I didn't have on that device
<samueldr>
I'm thinking it'd be interesting to set the feed up without intervention, letting zoom show whatever it does by default, and pipe that through obs to youtube for those that want just listen
<gchristensen>
oh I bet we could do that
<samueldr>
then, it could be archived and start acting like a proto-podcast
<samueldr>
a prodcast
<gchristensen>
I think I need to run a cable from my router to my desk, I was getting a bit of stutter
<samueldr>
I think my main issue with that is I don't know if my internet can cope with it, and not sure I can encode fast enough, haven't tried on the workstation
<samueldr>
but I know I don't have hardware encoding on my machines
<samueldr>
though I think it's relatively trivial to test all that
<gchristensen>
I think restream.io can forward zoom to youtube?
<samueldr>
sure would make it easy
<samueldr>
:/ it's like they don't want to sell their product
<samueldr>
though looking at the diagram on their main page, it might not handle from a service to others, but only "a camera"
<samueldr>
it looks like they have their own streaming setup using obs
<gchristensen>
hrm
<samueldr>
so it wouldn't help in the transcode/upload speed department alone
<samueldr>
it would help if we wanted to restream that stream of the zoom window at multiple locations though
<samueldr>
(AFAICT)
<gchristensen>
sounds intense
<samueldr>
streaming one window is trivial, in my experience
<samueldr>
or, uh, trivial in term of know-how
<andi->
maybe we should try the zoom recording one more time? Maybe we just did something wrong?
<gchristensen>
yeah I re-tried and noticed what went wrong
<gchristensen>
when I first load it, it says my audio is weird and canceles the recording until I enable it again
<andi->
can anyone record it or only the host?
<gchristensen>
not sure
<andi->
wanna try?
<gchristensen>
sure
<gchristensen>
guh zzoom got GC'd again
<andi->
alias nix-shell=nix-build
<gchristensen>
oh hehe
<gchristensen>
.....
<gchristensen>
I hit escape on one application, but the zoom window popped up at the last moment. and then the garbage collector started. so ... re-re-building it.
<__monty__>
Lol, think about all the entropy you're unleashing upon the world.
<Church->
ashkitten: FF14 has become the bane of my life. Somehow it can't run in a dang vm with 8GB mem, a 1070ti passed through and 7 cores.
* Church-
gives up at this fscking point
<ashkitten>
dunno what to tell you
<Church->
I expect nothing
<__monty__>
Why are you running such an old firefox in a vm?
<ashkitten>
ive got it working fine with proton
<__monty__>
: )
<Church->
Heh
<ashkitten>
if you're gonna run old firefox make it version 3
<Church->
ashkitten: Lucky you. I don't even see why it's a dang issue. Running the same version of proton, same distro, same game, probably same settings. Ran the same commands
* Church-
sighs
<ashkitten>
idk
<Church->
Yeah I'm just venting out of anger at this point
* ashkitten
stretches
<ashkitten>
need to figure out when they're actually gonna install the new dishwasher that was supposedly order
<ashkitten>
ordered
<Church->
Is there a 64bit version of winetricks?
<Church->
Oh that's always fun
<ashkitten>
Church-: yes?
<Church->
Waiting on a fridge repairman to get here
<Church->
Let me rephrase, already on nix? Not sure I saw one
<Church->
Might've missed it
<ashkitten>
Church-: wine.build = "wineWow"
<Church->
Ah, and that has it. That's not... obscure.
<Church->
Meh
<ashkitten>
in .config/nixpkgs/config.nix
<ashkitten>
i mean
<ashkitten>
you could just use nixpkgs.wineWowPackages.full
<ashkitten>
that also works
<Church->
Should I take out the standard winetricks package then as well?
<Church->
The 32 bit one
<Church->
nixpkgs.winetricks
<ashkitten>
sorry what
<Church->
If I add nixpkgs.winewowpackages.full, should I remove nixpkgs.winetricks?
<ashkitten>
or as i said, you can just use wine.build = "wineWow"
<ashkitten>
but that's global for your user's packages
<gchristensen>
wow such wine
<andi->
reproducible gaming..
<ashkitten>
gchristensen: i love how wine is in the emulators category in nixpkgs
<gchristensen>
lol
<ashkitten>
i wonder if someone did that just to make pedants whine
<Church->
Heh probably
<Church->
gchristensen: Where would I find the style guide? Gonna finally clean up and PR a service I wrote
<ashkitten>
but strimmer, wine is not an emulator!!!
<gchristensen>
32C out :(
<Church->
Eesh
<Church->
85F here
<gchristensen>
I should have turned off r13y this morning so it didn't warm up my house more
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<Church->
R13y?
<gchristensen>
r13y.com
<gchristensen>
it rebuilds a subset of nixos every day
<Church->
Ahhhhh
<Church->
Alright, another 18GB to go and I can see if that winetricks command worked...
<Church->
Sigh
* Church-
has downloaded this dang game four times now
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<samueldr>
31C, highly humid, it was 25C earlier today before the sun came out, but with the humidity it felt way worse :/
<ashkitten>
my preferred temperature is probably ~20C
<ashkitten>
idk how i'm not more used to high temperatures and humidity, i'm from the fuckin midwest
<samueldr>
my preferred weather is "not humid"
<ashkitten>
living in seattle is weird because there's no weather here
<samueldr>
went to LA and liked the 30°C without humidity
<ashkitten>
how
<ashkitten>
i'd die
<ashkitten>
ok to be fair
<samueldr>
in the sun it was hot, but any shadow and a bit of wind and it was fine in my experience
<ashkitten>
it regularly got to 37C when i was a kid
<ashkitten>
during the summer
<ashkitten>
so
<gchristensen>
texas? florida?
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<ashkitten>
missouri
<ashkitten>
it's just unreasonably humid and retains so much heat
<gchristensen>
oh my yes
<andi->
I was in Lisbon for a week and even 35C was nice
<andi->
And usually I hide as soon as it is above 25 here
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<ashkitten>
hmm, what x570 board should i get? i need something with 2 pcie x16 slots because my cpu cooler is gigantic and the first slot would be right up against the cooler >,,<
* ashkitten
considers getting a smaller cooler... nah
<manveru>
gchristensen: btw, the recordings of zoom are available on their website
<gchristensen>
it didn't record :(
<gchristensen>
I looked in their panel and even there
<manveru>
huh?
<manveru>
strange... always worked for me :|
<gchristensen>
something was wrong with my audio
<samueldr>
(and streaming to another service would allow other users to engage one-sidedly)
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<Church->
ashkitten: So 64bit winetricks fixed it
<Church->
Finally. Thanks for all the help mate!!
<ashkitten>
good
<jasongrossman>
,tell talyz: Yes, that's exactly how I'd categorise vegans, except that you could add environmental.
<{^_^}>
jasongrossman: I'll pass that on to talyz:
<ashkitten>
can tetris 99 stop screwing me over
<ashkitten>
seems like no matter how well i play, i just get pushed to the top in seconds
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