gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<pie_> joepie91, welll noone's replying ot my thread so i guess that means i can just merge everything right? ;PPP
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<pie_> domenkozar[m], mildly interesting problem https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42540
<pie_> domenkozar[m], sorry, accidental highlight
<pie_> how do you even solve a problem ike that
<pie_> *like
<pie_> ENOEASYFIX? xD
<ashkitten> hm
<ashkitten> we're looking into getting a few of these intel pcie cards that have a bunch of pentium cpus on them
<ashkitten> wonder if i could set up a nix build server on it
<ashkitten> thing is, they'd be sorta their own machines, not actually one 900-something core machine
<ashkitten> so i could do something like distcc but i'm not sure about anything else
<ashkitten> can nix use distcc to build stuff?
<ashkitten> tbh i'd love to have something like hydra for my own personal nixpkgs repo
<ashkitten> but only building the things that aren't in cache.nixos.org
<pie_> idk about distcc but i think what you need is a nix daemon and if youve got a nix daemon you can build stuff/
<pie_> ?
<ashkitten> hmm
<pie_> like, this is a normal thing for people to do but ive never done it
<ashkitten> i just want it to automatically pull from my repo, build stuff that's not in the upstream binary cache, and make the built paths available as my own personal binary cache
<ashkitten> or like, shove it onto cachix or something. im not picky i guess
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<pie_> how does one write software that doesnt need constant maintenance?
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<jasongrossman> pie_: Ask Knuth. Maybe the trick is to countenance no changes to the spec, and let everyone else's ecosystem cope with that.
<pie_> XD
<pie_> forgot to say thanks re: <jackdk> I am glad someone is trying to unify that abstraction
<sphalerite> Does anyone know if windows has a backup system similar to time machine that I might be able to set up a nixos server for?
<pie_> i heard something about shadow drives or images or something at some point but i really dont know
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<jasongrossman> sphalerite: Do you have ZFS?
<sphalerite> jasongrossman: yes
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: And you know about zfs.autoSnapshot.enable = true; ?
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: There's also the following, if you want to enable other machines to back up to yours:
<jasongrossman> I haven't tried that myself.
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: Oh damn. I misread your message. Sorry.
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: My perceptual system skips right over the word "windows".
<sphalerite> :D
<das_j> Is anyone here hosting the matrix irc bridge on nixos?
<pie_> technically windows *does* have a zfs implementation xD
<pie_> not sure what state its in though
<gchristensen> interesting, I wonder when that was posted
<gchristensen> oh weird, jarmac and I posted the same thing like 10 days apart :P
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<colemickens> (tips for recording PA input and output simultaneously? Need to record a call and its impressively hard to do on Android)
<sphalerite> colemickens: parecord should be able to do it
<sphalerite> once with -d @DEFAULT_MONITOR@ (for the output) and once without`
<ar> `/62
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: Thanks for bringing parecord to my attention.
<sphalerite> jasongrossman: but tbh any recording tool that can interact with pulseaudio should be able to record from monitors
<sphalerite> oh wait you're not colemickens lol
<sphalerite> jasongrossman: see also its counterpart pacat
<jasongrossman> sphalerite: I just happened to be interested in the same thing as colemickens.
<sphalerite> :)
<jackdk> so they're both in the same equivalence class. close enough `;-)`
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<clever> colemickens: using `pactl load_module module_loopback` you can create a pair of loopback devices (load it twice)
<clever> colemickens: then using pavucontrol, you can select the input and output for each one
<clever> colemickens: then `pactl load_module module_null_sink` to create a fake destination, that both loopbacks can go into
<clever> then parecord the null sink monitor, which is the mix of the 2 things the loopbacks are capturing
<colemickens> Nice. I think I'd seen something like that in the past, but couldn't Google my way back.
<colemickens> clever, you often have very good answers for me, or inspiration buried in your repos, and I appreciate both of those things. Thank you :)
<colemickens> As do most people here, but I'm in a grateful mood :)
<colemickens> I had wound up just writing a quick shell script to record both sides. (Though, it turns out the CC company's policy is to hangup if the customer decides to record the call too.)
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<gchristensen> anyone have a good recipe for blueberry pie?
<das_j> gchristensen: I should have on down in the kitchen, wait
<gchristensen> waiting =)
<das_j> gchristensen: Sorry, looks like I threw that out
<das_j> I could check the books, but it's unlikely they'll give something you cannot find on chefkoch
<gchristensen> no worries, I have one which looks promising :{)
<gchristensen> :)
<das_j> nice :}
<gchristensen> and to be honest, these blueberries are perfect -- so it'll take some work to mess them up :P
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Do you guys have bilberries in the us?
<etu> gchristensen: Sounds awesome :)
<adisbladis> (bilberries are also known as "european blueberry")
<gchristensen> hmm and they're different from what I know to be as blueberries?
<gchristensen> they look very similar
<adisbladis> I believe they are closely related
<adisbladis> gchristensen: They taste very different
<gchristensen> hmmm I'm trying to find a description of the flavor
<adisbladis> Much smaller berries, stronger sweeter & juicer taste
<gchristensen> "Bilberries have a more intense, fruity, sweet and tangy flavor." I'm in!
<adisbladis> gchristensen: You should be able to find some bilberry jam if you have a local ikea
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Even though the jar says "sylt blåbär" which translates to "jam blueberry" it's not made from blueberries.
<gchristensen> they are strikingly beautiful. I'll keep an eye out for them, fresh or jammed
<adisbladis> :)
<gchristensen> I'll get anything I can make a pie with :)
<adisbladis> I miss having free access to them :)
<gchristensen> childhood?
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Yeah :) Also they grow wild _everywhere_ so you can just pick a piece of random forest and go to pick them
<adisbladis> It's incredibly common
<gchristensen> haha wow, that is cool
<gchristensen> as a child we could pick oranges if we were lucky, but mostly spiders and aligators
<adisbladis> Oh wow
<joepie91> picking alligators does not sound like much fun
<adisbladis> Must be awesome to be a child with alligators around
<adisbladis> Or maybe it's something that seems fun and exotic but isn't in practice?
<gchristensen> (kidding about picking them ...) the nearest river was had a huge aligator population. you couldn't go swimming without seeing them
<joepie91> that sounds terrifying
<gchristensen> they don't really want to meet you
<gchristensen> (usually)
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<gspia> gchristensen: this is not a quarantee of successfull pie, but if your local store has readymade dough (paste) that you can spread to the casserole, then the rest is easy: mix the berries with sour cream (1 can or about 200 ml) and enough sugar (say 1dl) and vanilla sugar (say 3 tea spoons) as well. Then to owen for about 30 minutes. Real pros pre-heat the paste for 5-10 minutes and know better, how much to add those sugars...
<gchristensen> oh! sour cream sounds interesting!
<gspia> (This is for about 24-26 cm diameter casserole, producing quite flat pie)
<gspia> yeah, they combine very nicely with sugar. And about the pastes: in the local store near us, we have those for both sweat and salty pies. For berry pie I'd choose a sweet one.
<gspia> s/they combine/it combines/
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<Ralith> I did a blueberry-peach crisp the other week, that turned out pretty good
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<__monty__> yorick: Haven't come across any unstability in terminology. I do/did run enlightenment though.
<__monty__> yorick: Unless you mean the config menu? That is horrendous.
<yorick> __monty__: I had a dozen bug reports open at one point, they all got closed as cantreproduce
<yorick> __monty__: I could make it crash with just some window resizing
<yorick> __monty__: but this was around 2013
<__monty__> Can't say either project has a great dev interaction experience tbh.
<yorick> __monty__: does ranger support the terminology inline images?
<__monty__> Yes, set preview_images_method=terminology, the support is first-in-class.
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<yorick> __monty__: I tried teriminology, it crashed
<__monty__> Do you run enlightenment?
<yorick> no
<yorick> ERR<8871>:eina_safety lib/ecore_evas/ecore_evas.c:4511 _wayland_egl_new() safety check failed: m == NULL
<__monty__> Is any of the enlightenment stuff wayland compatible though?
<yorick> yes, all of it
<yorick> as one of the first things on the planet
<__monty__> Hmm, had no idea.
<yorick> it crashes in wayland code
<day|flip> the problem here. is that nixpkgs is x11 setup.
<__monty__> Not a huge loss. Kitty has nicer keyboard shortcuts anyway.
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<andi-> anyone here using darktable?
<spacekookie> I do, though I'm not particularly good with it
<andi-> on X11? Does OpenCL/OpenGL support work for you?
<andi-> I have the impression it is a lot slower then last time I used it..
<spacekookie> I'm using X11, yea. I've not actually paid much attention to hardware accel though
<spacekookie> I'm using it on an X230 so not exactly a powerhouse to begin with
<spacekookie> Might have a look at it tomorrow. I'm curious now
<andi-> I just added opencl to the buildInputs and recompiled. Didn't change the fact that it shows "not supported" in the options dialog. Might still be due to wayland