<samueldr>
I had an accidental file in there, so the block device wouldn't be created
<samueldr>
even though it listed under lsblk
<clever>
lol
<clever>
nice
<samueldr>
not really, considering there is a body of water a couple steps from where I live
<clever>
my 1st working card claims to be from 10/2013, so the date isnt null
<clever>
512 byte erase size
<clever>
it also prefers to be erased in 4194304 byte blocks
<samueldr>
good
<samueldr>
I didn't lose the SD card
<clever>
4mb
<samueldr>
in the end I was trolled heavily by the /dev/sdc file
<samueldr>
(and a bad flash)
<samueldr>
now to figure out why I lost a screen
<nh2>
"I had an accidental file in there, so the block device wouldn't be created" -- samueldr just the same problem I wrote about here a couple days ago!
<nh2>
samueldr: so all my new dd invocations look like `test -b /dev/mmcblk0p2 && sudo dd ..`
<nh2>
samueldr: I lost around 5 hours because of it
<clever>
nh2: i blkid and ls -l things before i dd into them
<nh2>
OK everyone I can report that I now have PlopKexec->NixOS working with everything built from source and nix expressions, all precompiled binary blobs removed
<clever>
nice
<nh2>
remaining big problem is that `poweroff` doesn't work
<nh2>
It did work before when I kexec'ed from a kernel I built, but with the kernel config of PlopKexec, it somehow breaks (even though I kexec in between!)
<nh2>
It just prints `reboot: System halted`
<samueldr>
don't know who the culprit was, but it took cutting power to everything, and now the third screen is back in action, after vanishing after a reboot
<samueldr>
I'm cursed, now firefox starts with "corrupted" windows, where the tab bar is empty, no tabs, no buttons :/
<samueldr>
okay, that one was my fault; a fix in the profile for a feature missing from firefox...
<samueldr>
ugh, and their fix is just... not working right
<samueldr>
sorry, getting a bit sour and I don't like me being sour
<gchristensen>
I know what you mean :') might be bed time here too
<samueldr>
here it was mainly things all at the same time working wonky
<samueldr>
there were other things that I didn't share, all technical or technological things that generally just work
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<monsieurp>
\o/
<monsieurp>
well that was easy
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<elvishjerricco>
Man how do people make such good graphics for their programming presentations? They usually look way better than what you could easily do in e.g. powerpoint.
<joepie91>
elvishjerricco: I've heard a particular macOS thing mentioned a few times in this context
<joepie91>
don't recall its name
<etu>
Next time I'll making a presentation I will use: https://github.com/yjwen/org-reveal/ -- I've seen it in action once it was quite fancy :)
<joepie91>
etu: Reveal is fairly decent, I've always stayed away from it because of its "fork the repo and then modify everything in it" model
<joepie91>
but org-reveal seems to solve that problem
<sphalerite>
elvishjerricco: graphics as in images embedded in the presentation, or just the general look and feel of the presentation?
<elvishjerricco>
sphalerite: The former. I'm guessing a lot of them probably use inkscape or something
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<LnL7>
joepie91: omnigraffle?
<joepie91>
LnL7: doesn't ring a bell
<joepie91>
so probably not that one
<LnL7>
hmm, no idea then
<jasongrossman>
etu: That is nice. Thanks for pointing to it. Personally, I feel very strongly about re-use of slide material, and org mode (or anything else that's mainly plain text) is great for that.
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<infinisil>
duh is registered damnit
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<andi->
Anyone here played around with pipewire yet? I supposedly fixes the issue of screensharing on wayland (for FireFox >=68 at least).
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<aminechikhaoui>
I mean why do they do that, why do they pull binaries from a repo and check sha512 of the files from another binary
<gchristensen>
wat
<pie_>
no idea whats going on there but this sounds wrong "Version and SHA512 checksum of binary is hardcoded in the electron-builder code. So, even if this repository will be compromised, users are not affected."
<pie_>
cant you just change the hashes
<gchristensen>
that info is in a different repo I guess
<pie_>
well also if it was signed itd be better i guess
<aminechikhaoui>
wouldn't it be neat if there was a web service that returns the same thing as what {^_^} do for ,locate requests, or is there something like that already
<gchristensen>
that'd be awesome!
<gchristensen>
like packages.html but ... locate
<aminechikhaoui>
yeah
<gchristensen>
and now that the build server for the website has more than two bytes of free space we might even be able to do it
<samueldr>
gchristensen: that'd probably need a non-static site, some kind of backend, if so it'd be helpful for every search pages instead of sending the whole load of packages at once
<samueldr>
and a whole load of improvements that cannot be done otherwise
<pie_>
is options and packages .html static? that would explain why it takes a while to loda
<pie_>
loda
<pie_>
... load
<gchristensen>
ah then probably no-deal
<samueldr>
the packages page sorely needs some help from a non-static part
<samueldr>
(imo)
<samueldr>
it cannot search through the whole set due to sets not being recursed into, but if we recurse into everything, it becomes *way* too big to be worth it
<samueldr>
(I think a PR was blocked on that)
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<kisik21>
My Wi-Fi signal is so good Waybar shows it as 108%
<kisik21>
That's how good my new laptop is: it literally forced me to move to Wayland
<kisik21>
talked about it before, maybe a week ago
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<gchristensen>
ok so I did a 1:1 call with jitsi meet today
<gchristensen>
and it was horrible!
<andi->
We used to have jitsi meet at the company.. It would a) eat all the CPU power it could possibly find b) the voice quality wouldn't be great c) sometimes it just wouldn't work for unknown reasons (black screens, no sound, …).. We moved to google meet that just works so far and I actually like it despite the Google bits.
<gchristensen>
we didn't manage to get to problems a,b,c since we had like 10s of latency
<andi->
wow
<andi->
maybe that was because of a? :D
<gchristensen>
haha maybe
<gchristensen>
anyway, office hours won't be over jitsi meet
<andi->
did you try screen sharing from wayland?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<andi->
It was to be expected but it caught me this morning when I wanted to discuss an issue with a co-worker...
<gchristensen>
with xterm :)
<gchristensen>
you have to have an ancient X only program to do it. xterm for example
<andi->
Thats what I resorted to... It is nice that there are only native wayland applications in my usual workflow <3
<gchristensen>
(except for gui emacs) yeah
<andi->
I could also set the GDB_BACKEND=x11 and spawn my terminal or something..
<andi->
*GDK_BACKEND
<andi->
ah so with emacs you also have a terminal and a webbrowser that can be shared? :D
<gchristensen>
and an IRC client and ...
<andi->
are you using the weechat emacs addon?
<andi->
I tried it once but it took forever to load all my buffers
<gchristensen>
no way, I don't use emacs for anything but text
<gchristensen>
and I run it in a terminal because the GUI version is not nice under wayland
<andi->
Isn't emacs just using GTK or QT (depending on the falvor)?
<andi->
well the just meaning that both support wayland transparently :-)
<gchristensen>
yeah but it supports wayland worse than a program that doesn't support wayland running in X mode
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<gchristensen>
different parts of it are scaled vastly differently. some parts look sharp and crisp, some are extremely blurry
<andi->
ouch.. Guess I'll stick with neovim a bit longer.. Really liked my 1 month "forced" usage of Emacs but muscle memory still makes VIM easier..
<gchristensen>
yeah I might switch back
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<pie_>
gchristensen, oh yeah, any plans yet post-survey (?) on when the times are gonna be for th ecall
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<pie_>
its not a screen sharing thing at all so probably doesnt help with anything, but for sketches or whatever / collab whiteboard drawpile is good if you have something like a tablet
<pie_>
though in my limited experience text as opposed to drawing letters isnt supported too well
<adisbladis>
gchristensen: It's "funny" how calls have seemingly gotten worse over time... I remember having a really enjoyable voice call experience from my Nokia N900 using jingle(xmpp) at the time.
<adisbladis>
andi-: Out of all the popular ones out there right now I would agree about google meet
<MichaelRaskin>
I hoped they have partially implemented it, no?
<infinisil>
I can very much recommend mumble for group chats though
<infinisil>
open source, nice UI, simple
<andi->
Usually works fine
<andi->
I recently saw a web client for mumble..
<gchristensen>
slack calls and google meet both work quite reliably for me, nothing else has been reliable
<gchristensen>
and not even slack/google are reliable daily
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: di you try Talky and Jitsi?
<andi->
so lets just use IRC? ;-)
<gchristensen>
this topic startedfrom me exclaiming how unreliable jitsi was
<MichaelRaskin>
Proper way of doing Nix group voice call: post a jitsi link to IRC
<adisbladis>
VOI (Voice Over IRC)
<MichaelRaskin>
Ah
<gchristensen>
zimbatm and I had 10s latency
<adisbladis>
Or VOIRC
<andi->
VoDCC
<adisbladis>
:D
<MichaelRaskin>
I think I can get the same problem on anything…
<gchristensen>
I *can* get the problem with whatever :P
<MichaelRaskin>
Dunno about Google, all my Google accounts get banned sooner rather than later
<adisbladis>
infinisil: Can you use mumble without an account?
<andi->
yes
<infinisil>
adisbladis: Yeah
<infinisil>
Just need a nick
<adisbladis>
Great :)
<andi->
someone just has to host an instance
<gchristensen>
like a server?
<andi->
yes
<andi->
super simple to setup
<andi->
services.murmur.enable = true ;-)
<gchristensen>
I would think it might not do a nice job with cross-atlantic calls without PoPs on both sides?
<andi->
why is that the case? I think latency wise it is a much better experience if all the participants are subject to a similar experience.. otherwise on half of the planet might hear something the others didn't...
<gchristensen>
exactlry
<MichaelRaskin>
So, Iceland?
<gchristensen>
but if it is hosted in EU then I'm slow, and if it is hosted in US you're slow
<andi->
I used it heavily for playing online games with people from the US many years ago.. never had any kind of issues or latency complains
<gchristensen>
but with a PoP in US and EU, there is private backhaul links for prioritized traffic
<gchristensen>
anyway, I'm leaning towards Zoom
<adisbladis>
I've had huge issues with zoom (and on top of that the client is non-free)
<infinisil>
I have a mumble server running on infinisil.com you could try out
<andi->
I never got why zoom is now a thing. What are they doing differently?
<gchristensen>
adisbladis:yaaay
<gchristensen>
I dunno, but it works pretty well even for huge calls
<gchristensen>
though the best experience I've had huge calls waswith Lync
<adisbladis>
andi-: Well, they don't work properly with tiling wms for one ;)
<andi->
adisbladis: uargh
<andi->
Is there an open client yet?
<infinisil>
Btw, if anybody wants to try out mumble, use mumble_git (with config.pulseaudio = true). mumble hasn't seen a stable release in a while, the git version looks so much better
<andi->
looking through their issues a majority seems to be cross platform support which is probably super tough for a project with little contributions
<samueldr>
at least the century is only about a fifth through, so it's likelier to be this century
<eyJhb>
Does anybody have some good examples, of well implemented Client API Libraries?
<eyJhb>
(in python)
<sphalerite>
there's a mumble server on sphalerite.org too :p
<samueldr>
I had one for a while on one of my domain :)
<samueldr>
might even still be running
<colemickens>
MichaelRaskin: might I be nosy and ask how/why your Google accounts get banned?
<Ralith>
infinisil: better why, out of curiosity?
<infinisil>
Ralith:The git version?
<Ralith>
yeah
<infinisil>
The non-git version is like 3/4 years old, it has this klunky Windows XP like UI
<infinisil>
The git version is a modern flat theme with dark mode too
<Ralith>
ah, literally looks nicer
<infinisil>
Yeah
<Ralith>
I never paid much attention to mumble's looks
<sphalerite>
infinisil: the difference is the qt version
<Ralith>
is just a nice simple reliable VoIP tool, which for some reason is incredibly difficult to come by
<sphalerite>
infinisil: if you configure your qt4 right, the stable mumble should look fine too :p
<buckley310>
i remember that, no that button placement was real and a total accident :)
<buckley310>
cisco sent out a bulletin about it at some point because people kept accidentally hard-booting their switches
<gchristensen>
incredible
<cransom>
that was a bug, indeed. they also have a technical bulletin about solar flares.
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<MichaelRaskin>
colemickens: typically, Google decides that I am a bot, I guess. While people joke about being banned in Google search, I _have_ received the page «we won't let you search»
<MichaelRaskin>
Just in case: a typical banned account would have sent zero emails ever, so this is not just about famously corrupt spam filter
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<samueldr>
most likely you don't have a big fat trace they can track, and it is suspicious not to send e-mail OR to send e-mail, and please now fill in this form with SMS number and genetic markers thanks
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<MichaelRaskin>
Well, my guess is obviously pretty close to that theory
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<andi->
a map of NixOS users would be neat.. Would be nice to know if it is worth having a local/regional Nix(OS) meetup in my area.
<pie_>
you just made me realize the caches probably have a pretty good idea
* colemickens
wades into the new Riot interface to see if its any less confusing this time around
<ar>
i wonder if there's a NixOS community on Naxos island ;)
<Ralith>
I dunno about less confusing, but it's significantly prettier at least
<Ralith>
they finally got a UI designer with some sense
<colemickens>
well, I tried to join #nixos-chat, it didn't work and I feel stumped already
<andi->
I tried to find a channel and gave up...
<colemickens>
though I appear to be in #nixos and getting realtime status updates from other matrix users, which is kind of neat?
<andi->
At least I finally rotated my password there now... Not that I itend to use it
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oh hey, maybe this wasn't so bad
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<infinisil>
Mozilla is shutting down their IRC network :(