<veleiro> shouldnt nix storepaths contain the arch?
<veleiro> that would be useful
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<samueldr> it could break things
<samueldr> if it's done for everything it needs to be a prefix
<samueldr> because sometimes things parse file name
<samueldr> file names*
<samueldr> I can't use `stdenv` in cross-compilation for mrb files
<samueldr> as the mruby interpreter resolves all symlinks up to the real file, and gets the name to check the format
<samueldr> stdenv with cross-compilation appends the platform
<veleiro> ah, good point
<veleiro> well i was just thinking its similar to version number
<veleiro> at least i would like to browse the store and see that
<samueldr> yeah, I see the value
<samueldr> but real world is messy
<samueldr> (sure, I could output to $out/thing.mrb, but meh)
<veleiro> yeah maybe (arch).(package)-(version)
<veleiro> or something
<samueldr> though maybe we should just do it with a postfix arch
<samueldr> and then fix what's broken
<samueldr> I think it'd do well with the "always cross-compile" goal
<veleiro> whats that?
<samueldr> make the cross-compiling "code paths" of Nixpkgs be the default and only choice
<samueldr> so for x86_64 you'd build with gcc, but configured to "cross-compile" to x86_64 (from x86_64)
<samueldr> not sure what it _actually_ means for many bits
<{^_^}> #21471 (by Ericson2314, 3 years ago, open): Always cross compile
<samueldr> --host, --build and --target always given to build tools
<samueldr> etc
<{^_^}> #21471 (by Ericson2314, 3 years ago, open): Always cross compile
<samueldr> uh
<{^_^}> #87909 (by Gaelan, 29 weeks ago, open): WIP: stdenv: always pass --build, --host to configure
<samueldr> if I copied first
<veleiro> good idea
<DigitalKiwi> anyone know some electron apps that build from source for aarch64?
<DigitalKiwi> (darwin too but that's offtopic but still :P )
<samueldr> any that builds from source outright in Nixpkgs? :)
<DigitalKiwi> tbh i'm not sure i have even seen one that builds from source
<DigitalKiwi> if i did it was a long time ago
<DigitalKiwi> so i was hoping maybe someone knew one offhand
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<angerman> DigitalKiwi: I'm confused, can you expand on that request?
<DigitalKiwi> most electron apps i know of use a .deb or .appimage or .pkg or .dmg
<DigitalKiwi> instead of building from source we wrap one of those
<DigitalKiwi> anyway it's possible an app could work on aarch64-linux but isn't prebuilt
<DigitalKiwi> i found one and of course it's broken so now i have to fix it :D
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<angerman> Fun
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<samueldr> nice! https://xnux.eu/log/#028
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/28 (by gitfoxi, 8 years ago, merged): Curl bug makes nix all mental. One-line fix.
<samueldr> while not really less blobby, I think, it'll at least be way better understood
<samueldr> and cleaned-up
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<veleiro> anyone else charge the Pinebook Pro through USB-C
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<patagonicus> veleiro: Coworker of mine has one and just yesterday said he doesn't even know where the non-USB-C charger for it, so I'm pretty confident he does.
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<veleiro> it doesnt consistently charge when connected
<veleiro> that's why i was asking for others experiences or if its just mine
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<angerman> did anyone ever contemplate pulling armbian kernels (upstream + armbian config + patches) into nix?
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<DigitalKiwi> ./locate bin electron-reload
<DigitalKiwi> i am not having a good time
<DigitalKiwi> ,/locate bin electron-reload
<DigitalKiwi> ,locate bin electron-reload
<DigitalKiwi> ffs
<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
<DigitalKiwi> of course not ;_;
<DigitalKiwi> why did i pick bitwarden to try first it's probably the most annoying
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<DigitalKiwi> i cannot get an electron app to build from source :(
<sphalerite> DigitalKiwi: thanks for your effort <3
* DigitalKiwi wonders if simplenote is...simpler
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<angerman> ha...
<angerman> Got nixOS to boot on kobol helios64 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1fWyI6tS/
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<leonardp> super nice
<sphalerite> angerman: nice! Will be stealing this if you share the details of how :>
<leonardp> what's your experience with the helios64? is it as good as the marketing material?
<patagonicus> Yay, finally seem to have worked around the odroid HC2 not giving the HDD enough time to shut down. It was just cutting power, which HDDs don't like. :)
<patagonicus> Next step: automatic root unlock if one of the other machines is running, then automatic unlock/mount of the HDD itself.
<angerman> sphalerite: yea, I need to push my set of rpi/rockpi/odroid-n2/helios node config. I'll do so later, after a tad bit of clean up.
<angerman> leonardp: no idea, I just got it to boot :D
<leonardp> lol ok :)
<angerman> one thing I can say is: (a) mine isn't level. (b) the backplate doesn't seem to fit as snug as i'd like it. (c) the usbc port is a bit too far in the box and could ideally be flush with the backplate. (d) the plastic disk holder feel a bit cheap, compared to the qnap ones I have. (e) the disk holders produce some abbrasions when inserted due to the plastic pressing against the metal to hold them. This is
<angerman> probably fine, but does make me question the durability.
<angerman> and the construction used a lot of tiny wiresstraps, I would have preferred some hooks, but it's always a cost tradeoff I guess.
<leonardp> well, that sounds good enough. i guess it's time to start scaping ebay :D
<DigitalKiwi> it is not simpler
<DigitalKiwi> i mean it is made by the makers of wordpress so like... i shouldn't have had my hopes up
<DigitalKiwi> should just give up and go and not get anything working on nixops-digitalocean instead
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<DigitalKiwi> sphalerite: i feel like Sisyphus
<DigitalKiwi> well except i don't get the boulder near the top of the hill
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<patagonicus> With some systemd magic the "unlock the HDD and vgchange -ay before mounting the filesystems on there" was actually not that hard to do. :)
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<angerman> sphalerite, leonardp, samueldr: https://github.com/angerman/nixos-docker-sd-image-builder, it's in the helios64-node, Makefile has instructions on how to build an image. You'll need an aarch64 builder somewhere.
<sphalerite> thanks1
<sphalerite> s/1/!/
<angerman> you may want to cp the secrets.nix.sample and inject an ssh key
<angerman> also, you get the uart, by plugging in the usbc cable; baud is changed to 115200.
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<leonardp> angerman: thanks
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<DigitalKiwi> sphalerite: i think i have mlv-app working on everything (...working again, it did work, and then undmg changed and what i had didn't work anymore)
<DigitalKiwi> having trouble confirming on darwin my qemu keeps oom :D
<DigitalKiwi> maybe i shouldn't give it 8GB of ram
<DigitalKiwi> total used free shared buff/cache available
<DigitalKiwi> Mem: 15927 9561 5764 207 600 5846
<DigitalKiwi> Swap: 7963 5356 2606
<DigitalKiwi> (it's not running right now)
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<DigitalKiwi> now i686 too
<DigitalKiwi> should i add windows :D
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<patagonicus> What the hell. Did (another) one of my HC2s just break? Gets stuck in the kernel, before it stars init from the initramfs.
<patagonicus> At least I bought this one from a Swiss (well, German) shop, so I've got warranty. But it's going to be hard to convince them, since it does power on. But let's try the official SD card image.
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<patagonicus> Huh. That one boots. That's weird. I tried another microSD that I had just booted in another machine.
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<patagonicus> I guess that one board doesn't want to boot with the nixos-built kernel anymore? This is weird …
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<colemickens> when echo + netcat execute under the aarch64 nix-daemon PBH, it seems like it is not affected by libeatmydata, the way my Go app is.
<colemickens> I think I can use `echo`+`nc` instead of my Go app to send the paths to my uploader, but then I have to rely on echo and netcat being in /run/current-system/sw/bin/ on the builder machine. :| :/
<tilpner> colemickens: I have almost no context, but how is libeatmydata configured? LD_PRELOAD or /etc/**?
<colemickens> tilpner: this gives a bit more detail: https://github.com/nix-community/aarch64-build-box/issues/100
<{^_^}> nix-community/aarch64-build-box#100 (by colemickens, 3 days ago, open): libeatmydata causing odd stack trace for golang app executing as post-build-hook
<colemickens> the aarch64 cmmunity box LD_PRELOADS it in before nix-daemon
<tilpner> So could you unset LD_PRELOAD before running your go app?
<colemickens> tilpner: hmm. I guess, maybe, I don't know. I don't have a lot of experience with LD_PRELOAD and it didn't occur to me at all to try that
<tilpner> You can't unset it for the daemon, so if your problem is that the daemon eats your data, then you lose
<tilpner> But if your problem involves processes that you control, that might work
* colemickens is excited, trying it now
<tilpner> colemickens: Are you testing now or much later?
<colemickens> @tilpner wrote the change, but have a blocker for testing, I'll have to pick this up later tonight.
<tilpner> Ahh okay, so I won't wait for that :)
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