<andi-> for canadian terms it is still within the same province ;)
<andi-> 500km are a huge distance for us...
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<samueldr> yeah, I know how to deal with weird european measures
<samueldr> ugh, 3h to drive between two cities *drives ~300km*
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<red[evilred]> wru honeycomb
<red[evilred]> lol
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<red[evilred]> Anyone here played with the pine A64 compute modules with NixOS?
<red[evilred]> with only 2G RAM - I can't help but think that would be problematic
<red[evilred]> don't get me wrong - I love the idea of 7 of them... but with 2G of memory can you even do a nixos-rebuild switch without chewing into swap with that little memory?
<samueldr> they're SOPINE, no?
<samueldr> if so, it's the same as the Pine A64-LTS
<red[evilred]> yes - SOPINE
<samueldr> and the pinephone is really close
<red[evilred]> Quad-Core ARM Cortex A53 64-Bit Processor as PINE A64 with 2G LPDDR3 RAM
<red[evilred]> pretty slow
<samueldr> the devkit is a SOPINE on a carrier board with a display and stuff
<samueldr> well, the initial devkit :)
<red[evilred]> but I really want to cluster
<red[evilred]> and the RPi foundation didn't do themselves any favors with the new hardware format
<samueldr> heh
<red[evilred]> I'm really not a fan
<samueldr> that's the least of my worry
<red[evilred]> so what;s the most of your worry?
<red[evilred]> :-)
<samueldr> their vendor-specific ecosystem that's pretty hostile to standardization
<samueldr> starting from their boot chain
<samueldr> and then their vendor kernel that's just different enough from mainline that nothing "just works" with mainline
<samueldr> imo, they are locking you to their ecosystem quite hard
<samueldr> working on improving the generic aarch64 image is always more painful for no good reason because of the pi family of devices :/
<red[evilred]> yeah
<red[evilred]> although "standards" in aarch :-/
<red[evilred]> I don't know enough about it all yet to be honet
<red[evilred]> which is the main reason I ordered a more server-esque aarch64 machine
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<samueldr> already, there is SBBR and SBSA for servers
<samueldr> any server-type hardware not following these are DoA
<samueldr> for non-servers, there's EBBR that's quite new
<samueldr> but it's basically standardizing the status quo
<samueldr> minimal UEFI through u-boot
<samueldr> and frankly, u-boot itself as the status quo is extremely good
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: do you have the awful nginx hacks that let ipxe talk to it available somewhere? Could use them quite shortly :p
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<gchristensen> sphalerite: yea
<sphalerite> gchristensen: and are the machines working nicely again?
<gchristensen> certainly more are working now :D thank you
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<red[evilred]> WTS: awful nginx hax, pst ;-)
<sphalerite> thanks!
<sphalerite> \o/
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: and could I maybe have access to a machine sometime (same setup as yesterday would work nicely) to try and fix 5.4 on them?
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<gchristensen> sure
<gchristensen> any time :)
<gchristensen> and I have a bunch of another machine type which is slightly more exotic, if you wanted to try to figure out what is wrong with that one
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<sphalerite> gchristensen: I'll noncommittally say this weekend, but will get back to you on that
<gchristensen> let me know
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<dsd> Hey there, I'm tinkering around with my Cubietruck (ARMv7) and I'd like to try out NixOS on the board. I followed the instructions on the wikipage for NixOS_on_ARM for the BananaPI (because it's similar to my device) and I successfully compiled a recent u-boot. Next step seems to be to follow the generic installation steps to get the installer
<dsd> image. But this is where I'm stuck. Where do I find/get an image of NixOS for ARMv7 arch? In the guide is written that the image is named something like sd-image-armv7l-linux.img but I only see images for aarch64.
<red[evilred]> I don't know that we automatically build them anymore? But others here would know better...
<red[evilred]> the crosscompilation process isn't too difficult I don't think
<red[evilred]> I'm sure we do have versions somewhere though
<srk> yup, there's no armv7 image built by hydra, you can cross build one
<dsd> Thanks for the replies. @srk Is there a recent guide on how to cross compile NixOS somewhere?
<srk> ,cross
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<flokli> yeah, I started running into some issues while crosscompiling the installer image as well…
<flokli> (armv7l)
<flokli> fribidi -> mailutils -> smartmontools -> zfs-user
<flokli> gen.tab/meson.build:32:0: ERROR: No build machine compiler for "gen.tab/gen-unicode-version.c"
<samueldr> IIRC I disable zfs in my cross-system thingy
<flokli> how?
<flokli> I triggered a new build, reverting 0f05f224fa0cb4ecacb2ea209b62736a4b4bd2d1 to see if this was a recent breakage
<samueldr> hm, maybe I don't
<flokli> :-)
<samueldr> ah, no I do
<samueldr> boot.supportedFilesystems = lib.mkForce [ "vfat" ];
<samueldr> IIRC zfs is only enabled by the task for zfs being part of supportedFilesystems
<samueldr> I could be wrong
<samueldr> though I think I'm right
<flokli> very often you are :-)
<samueldr> I try to be
<flokli> the other annoying part is uboot being somewhat picky
<samueldr> details?
<flokli> I got the binfmt stuff configured, and instantiate with --argstr system armv7l-hf-multiplatform-linux
<samueldr> ugh
<samueldr> binfmt is not cross-compilation :)
<flokli> I know
<samueldr> it's native compilation with extra steps :)
<flokli> that's the other approach I'm trying to take
<samueldr> yeah
<flokli> but what I mean is, for some reason uboot still thinks it's x86
<flokli> even nix eval complains
<flokli> so I might be not passing in system correctly in all places
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> could it be looking at /proc files?
<samueldr> with binfmt, how does `uname` act?
<samueldr> I think you'd be better served by looking at how u-boot detects the platform
<flokli> I'm not sure it's uboot
<flokli> I think it's me
<samueldr> ah
<flokli> so, I have a default.nix: { pkgs ? (import <nixpkgs> {}), ...}: { foo = (pkgs.armv7l-hf-multiplatform.nixos ./foo.nix); };
<flokli> (that's the cross-compilation part)
<flokli> foo2 = (pkgs.nixos ./foo.nix); is the other part
<flokli> and I nix-build -A foo2 --argstr system armv7l-hf-multiplatform-linux
<flokli> which might not get passed down
<flokli> and might be my issue here