<ryantrinkle>
__red__: if you do go with a rack like that, there's one big difference from an open rack: you have to take hot air backflow much more seriously
<ryantrinkle>
blanking panels are mandatory, and it's not a good idea to leave powered off machines in the rack (i verified with a thermal camera that we had significant backflow through a powered off machine, just because its fans weren't running)
<ryantrinkle>
after making sure of that stuff, though, temps are totally normal
<__red__>
maybe I should look for something with a little less "oomph"
<__red__>
I just don't want to go down to Pi level
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<ryantrinkle>
__red__: if you're only using it intermittently, packet.net's servers are pretty cost-effecive
<ryantrinkle>
that's how i was building nixos-aarch64 a few months ago when I was trying to get it to work on pinephone
<ryantrinkle>
also, cross-compilation is a potential option: that's what i actually do for all my current ARM/NixOS stuff
<ryantrinkle>
i don't know if anyone's gotten gtk to cross-compile, though, and lots of stuff depends on that
<ryantrinkle>
so for me it's only been non-graphical stuff
<__red__>
lemme take a peek at packet.net
<gchristensen>
if you use it, let me know and I'll give you a fresh installer URL for aarch64 to test
<__red__>
Sweet!
<__red__>
I'm currently looking for costs
<__red__>
before actually signing up
<gchristensen>
$1/h for aarch64's c2.large.arm, available in ams1
<__red__>
too rich for my (personal) blood alas
<__red__>
looks like I'll be looking at my own hardware
<__red__>
no big
<gchristensen>
yeh, I mean, you can make a lot of progress for $2
<gchristensen>
but it is pricey on the face of it
<__red__>
You can, but I was loooking for something I can run 24/7
<__red__>
as opposed to just turning up and down
<gchristensen>
yeah that'll cost you something
<__red__>
wouldn't be so bad if you weren't charged during power-odd
<__red__>
power-off
<gchristensen>
if you don't need virtualisation (kvm) AWS's graviton2 line is pretty good
<__red__>
but I understand why it is why it is
<gchristensen>
yeah, they don't save anything but a few watts if you turn it off :P
<__red__>
apparently I've been suspended from AWS
* __red__
shrugs
<gchristensen>
make a new account? :)
<__red__>
that's hillarious
* gchristensen
shrugs
<__red__>
4 years worth of bills I never saw
<gchristensen>
its the cloud, baby
<__red__>
0.64 per month
<__red__>
ish
<__red__>
with an odd 2.5-3 year gap
<__red__>
so $20 plus change
<__red__>
I guess they figured that since I spend thousands, or tens of thousand on the exact same amazon.com account buying stuff from their retail side - they didn't want to suspend my full account for $20 :-P
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<sphalerite>
__red__: there's also a $25 packet voucher available with the code nixos, or something
<sphalerite>
though yeah if you need it 24/7 that won't last long :D
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<__red__>
You still pay for it while it's powered off tho right?
<__red__>
but I guess with nixos it's really easy to spin up and identical machine ready to do the work every single time
<ryantrinkle>
has anyone in here tried robotnix?
<ryantrinkle>
it sounds very cool as a way to move *towards* nixos on hardware that can't quite get all the way there
<__red__>
~Yes!
<__red__>
It was awesome to play with
<ryantrinkle>
i've got a oneplus 7 pro, for instance, and it'd be great to nixify it
<__red__>
I didn't manage to get the image to run on any hardware and I only played with it for a few hours
<ryantrinkle>
ah
<__red__>
but I really enjoyed it
<__red__>
I have two targets - my Planet Computers Gemini and Planet Computers Cosmo
<__red__>
I thought robotnix was android specific no?
<ryantrinkle>
yeah, it is
<ryantrinkle>
definitely not getting the job completely done
<ryantrinkle>
but better than stock lineage, perhaps, which is what i'm running now
<samueldr>
ryantrinkle: it's not nixified in the sense of a NixOS system is
<samueldr>
your base image could have a couple apks and a couple toggles
<samueldr>
but you won't change your settings with that
<samueldr>
and there is a limit with how many apps you can install to the system partition, being the size of the system partition
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<sphalerite>
ryantrinkle: I'm using a robotnix-built image on my daily driver :)
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<samueldr>
right, what I said shouldn't discourage you from using robotnix to make a more trustable and more inspectable Android system image
<sphalerite>
ryantrinkle: plus the author of robotnix, danielrf[m] is here ;)
<sphalerite>
pretty sure he's tried robotnix :p
<samueldr>
I did validate pixel 2 support was working (it needed some tweaks)
<samueldr>
and made a bad enough attempt at making lineageos builds working :)
<samueldr>
just enough to snipe him into doing it more right
<__red__>
I really should have bookmarked that link and $99 off coupon for that arm desktop that was posted a week or so ago