#nixos-aarch64 on 2020-11-18

2019-09-27 17:31 gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-aarch64 to: Get access to the NixOS Community aarch64 build box: https://github.com/nix-community/aarch64-build-box ... todo: https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/trunk#tabs-jobs build box status: https://status.nixos.org/grafana/d/5LANB9pZk/per-instance-metrics?orgId=1&refresh=30s&var-instance=147.75.77.190

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00:30 <siraben> colemickens: yeah I haven't worked on NixOS on reMarkable at all, the focus ATM is getting Nixpkgs avaliable.

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00:50 <red[evilred]> sphalerite (IRC): ordered now. Now, we wait...

01:00 <siraben> red[evilred]: what did you order?

01:08 <red[evilred]> honeycomb

01:09 <red[evilred]> now I need to find all the docs so I have thhe memory / fans / psus etc all ready for its arrival

01:16 <siraben> Oh, nice.

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05:08 <samueldr> hm, cute! https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=282

05:11 <samueldr> I guess though that all traffic goes through the CPU

05:14 <samueldr> aww, out of stock

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07:17 <sphalerite> samueldr: hmm, running a minecraft server on that seems… ambitious

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08:40 <ar> speaking of honeycomb

08:40 <ar> does anyone here have the >=10gbit nics working on upstream kernel?

08:41 <ar> working as in presenting themselves as normal NICs, instead of just dpdk things

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10:18 <Ke> at least on mcbin they only work with EFI

10:18 <Ke> not sure, whether you use u-boot or efi

10:20 <ar> Ke: "mcbin"?

10:21 <LinuxHackerman> ar: macchiatobin

10:21 <LinuxHackerman> ar: http://macchiatobin.net/

10:22 <Ke> marvell soc, but same company in collaboration with different soc vendor

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16:06 <veleiro> anyone know what commits to use for working kernels for the pinebook pro?

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17:15 <superherointj> samueldr, I'm considering getting a Helios64 NAS device just like yours. Do know of any better option? My use case is to storage VMs, backups, shared data. But nothing too large. I would prefer nvme, but I don't know of any NAS option that is open.

17:16 <superherointj> I plan running NixOS on it. Poses like Buzzlightyear, "NixOS *everywhere*." (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/znmlgZv_P9o/maxresdefault.jpg)

17:17 <Ke> macchiatobin is open apart from phy fw and SCP fw.

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17:17 <Ke> but currently mainline kernel is broken for me

17:18 <superherointj> Ke, seems interesting hardware, first time seeing it.

17:18 <Ke> I guess helios64 is an attractive offer for the price, assuming there are no other issues

17:18 <Ke> it's not available though

17:19 <Ke> there is a plan to make a revision2 though

17:19 <Ke> hopefully it's an improvements

17:19 <Ke> * hopefully it's an improvement

17:19 <superherointj> I think issue samueldr talked about will be fixed already (or newer shipments).

17:19 <superherointj> *on

17:21 <Ke> I did not even know he opened the package yet

17:31 <sphalerite> superherointj: which issue?

17:31 <superherointj> GigaEthernet port not working at 1Gbps but 100M/2.5G only.

17:32 <sphalerite> oh, damn, that does sound like a pain.

17:32 <sphalerite> I don't have 2.5G :|

17:32 <gchristensen> wow

17:34 <superherointj> But it is solvable still. (You can patch it by adding a wire, needs solder.) Or just use the other GigaEthernet port.

17:34 <superherointj> It has two ports. Affected one, I guess.

17:34 <sphalerite> oooh ok if one works that's good enough for me

17:36 <superherointj> What I really wanted was a multiple NVME NAS. That would be very nice.

17:36 <superherointj> And obviously, NixOS everywhere. I'm too stupid to manually configure anything.

17:37 <Ke> if mainline kernel works, nixos is the easy part almost always

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17:51 <hexa-> superherointj: not sure how well virtualization works on the helios64

17:52 <superherointj> hexa-, I would be using it mostly for NAS really.

17:52 <hexa-> I'd look up "rk3399 kvm"

17:52 <Ke> on rk3399 it works, but you need to only use one core type or hack the kvm

17:52 <Ke> also low memory would be an issue

17:52 <hexa-> yep

17:52 <hexa-> can't partition what you don't have

17:53 * superherointj wants a honeycomb now. :)

17:53 <Ke> I'll get one, if it works for the early adopter here perhaps

17:53 <hexa-> I'll wait a few more years until that whole mess hopefully has sorted itself out

17:53 <hexa-> until then … maybe epyc embedded

17:54 <sphalerite> Ke: the early adopter here is thefloweringash :p

17:55 <sphalerite> https://github.com/thefloweringash/lx2k-nix

17:55 <Ke> hexa-: well mcbin regressed with 5.9 so often it's not all progress

17:55 <sphalerite> though that's with the vendor kernel, last I heard he hadn't tried it with mainline

17:55 <Ke> also pbp regressed for 5.9 agaik

17:55 <Ke> afaik

17:55 <hexa-> :<

17:56 <Ke> yes, mainline kernel is a must have, unless I am really desperate

17:57 <Ke> mcbin with 5.4 mainline will do, if nothing else

17:57 <Ke> nixos will almost certainly run with 5.4 for quite a while

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18:53 <danielrf[m]> So I've been messing around with android cuttlefish (the modern android emulator / virtualized device). I'm hoping it can be a good anbox alternative in the future

18:53 <danielrf[m]> https://github.com/danielfullmer/robotnix/tree/cuttlefish/cuttlefish

18:53 <danielrf[m]> See cuttlefish subdir of cuttlefish branch of robotnix

18:54 <danielrf[m]> It works on x86, as well as cross-compiled to aarch64

18:54 <danielrf[m]> Even got it working on my pinebook pro

18:55 <danielrf[m]> Would be interested in hearing if it works for anyone else who's interested. CC samueldr

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19:05 <samueldr> to be a good anbox *alternative* it would have to provide native windows to the system

19:05 <samueldr> but to replace the use case, it only has to be more compatible :)

19:05 <samueldr> and fast enough

19:05 <samueldr> so maybe it can be!

19:06 <samueldr> fast isn't the right word

19:06 <samueldr> efficient

19:06 <danielrf[m]> well it uses crosvm+virtio-gpu and involves a wayland socket, so I'm hoping it's possible to directly display to the desktop

19:07 <samueldr> oh, forgot about kvm being required for virt

19:07 <samueldr> which makes it unusable on qualcomm hw :)

19:07 <danielrf[m]> :(

19:08 <samueldr> unless the upcoming kvm-for-android stuff gets somehow backported

19:08 <samueldr> https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/spectrum/2020-11-18#1605726064-1605703062;

19:10 <danielrf[m]> so qualcomm doesn't allow accelerated virtualization at the hardware level? or is it just that the kernels they use don't have support for it?

19:10 <samueldr> they disable it in the initial exception levels before ABL/aboot is started

19:11 <danielrf[m]> I see, bummer then

19:11 <samueldr> the hardware supports it, it's being disabled in places we can't configure

19:11 <samueldr> extremely

19:11 <samueldr> all because their KVM is reserved for their server hardware

19:11 <samueldr> you know

19:11 <samueldr> those that everyone deploy everywhere

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23:57 <cjpbirkbeck> hello, anybody there? where's nixos support for rp4 at nowadays - still experimental, ready for use or somewhere in between?