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<danielrf[m]> haha yep. that's what I've been messing with today
<danielrf[m]> I have it booting mainline uboot and linux even
<samueldr> nice!
<samueldr> what's the outlook on that device?
<danielrf[m]> I've wanted a nice open source IP camera for years
<danielrf[m]> dev kits just recently got shipped
<danielrf[m]> I might actually be the first person to have mainline linux booting IDK
<samueldr> nice
<samueldr> Allwinner S3. uh, hadn't seen that name
<danielrf[m]> it's almost the same a V3 / V3S
<samueldr> oh, SPI NOR Flash
<danielrf[m]> the 128MB total memory limit is going to be a pain though :)
<samueldr> big enough that it *could* be possible to totally embed the OS in it
<danielrf[m]> true
<samueldr> haven't read it yet, it's looooong
<samueldr> but it was linked recently on lobste.rs and looked quite good
<danielrf[m]> I saw that recently too. I agree it looks very comprehensive
<samueldr> >> Software Workflow
<samueldr> not sure if there's any tips about stripping things bare
<samueldr> hm, I don't think it deals with software much
<samueldr> hopefully a not-os, but for cameras, approach would work well here
<danielrf[m]> One thing I did with my RPI camera a while back was set it up to pxe boot with an NFS-backed /nix/store
<danielrf[m]> was very nice to avoid the slow sd card--and I could upgrade by just updating a symlink and rebooting
<danielrf[m]> I think I'd like to do that with the pinecube
<danielrf[m]> except, the pinecube has a ton of great features as an IP camera: power over ethernet, infrared LEDs, etc
<samueldr> right, since you're networking it, why not run the OS from the network
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<samueldr> neat, I think the service for controlling the modem really totally works
<samueldr> soon™ a PR with the changes, but I want to deal with the modem firmware update first
<samueldr> I tested the modem with LTE data successfully yesterday
<samueldr> though I don't have a call or sms plan to test other features yet :)
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<lopsided98> You can actually run NixOS with not much RAM, but disk space is still going to be a problem.
<lopsided98> I have a system that uses 17MB RAM (out of 64M) but still has a ~500M system closure
<lopsided98> incidently, I am pretty sure that I'm the only person who has ever run Linux on that device
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<samueldr> which?
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<patagonicus> Anyone built NixOS on armv7l recently? My systems are still on nixpkgs from end of July - I tried building at a few different commits a few weeks ago, but wasn't able to find one that worked. Currently trying with master, we'll see how that goes.
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<misuzu> patagonicus: 420f89ceb267b461eed5d025b6c3c0e57703cc5c works for me, but i have very minimal config
<patagonicus> Thanks! I'll let it run on master until it breaks (if it does), then I'll try that one.
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<patagonicus> Yeah, 6068afe0fdca6043af185cfa2a02fada1f8066b2 failed. Will try the other one.
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<lopsided98> samueldr: It's an old GPS made by Omnitech. Has an i.MX21 and normally runs WinCE
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<sphalerite> samueldr: one more question re phone choice: are there any devices that support a cros-like security model, where the user can take control of the device and boot it securely?
<samueldr> only the pixel series AFAIK
<samueldr> sphalerite: ask danielrf[m] for details
<samueldr> but basically you can add your own AVB keys to it
<samueldr> and at that point you can re-lock it into Android with your keys
<samueldr> so fastboot is not unlocked anymore, and you're in control of the OS
<samueldr> that's something robotnix helps you manage even :)
<danielrf[m]> :)
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<samueldr> annoyingly, even though google is mostly as bad as other OEMs, they still have the better options for allowing the end-user to be in actual control
<samueldr> (as bad as other OEMs: software updates)
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<sphalerite> sweet! I think I'll go for a pixel then :) thanks samueldr and danielrf[m] !
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<danielrf[m]> cool!
<danielrf[m]> somewhere deep down in my TODO list is to make full verified boot work with mobile-nixos on pixel phones
<samueldr> would be nice to have a reference implementation :)
<samueldr> as hopefully I can get it useful enough that one would want to replace Android with Mobile NixOS
<danielrf[m]> it'd definitely be nice to have the option to do so!
<sphalerite> that sounds exciting!
<samueldr> one thing I'd like to have documented at some point is flipping an A64 into secure mode
<samueldr> more dangerous than enrolling your own keys into a pixel device, but still could be useful for individuals
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<samueldr> though spooooooooky
<samueldr> >> you will also need to sign it using Qualcomm's Test Keys using SecTools
<samueldr> so quectel ships their hardware that allows running stuff using test keys?
<samueldr> the modem might be somewhat introspectable and modifiable more quickly than I anticipated
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<samueldr> mobile-nixos#231 yay
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/mobile-nixos/pull/231 (by samueldr, 1 minute ago, open): pine64-pinephone: Modem support improvements
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