2017-04-15

<sophiag> i'd prefer something that just allows me to build with gcc
<sophiag> like rn i'm just trying out something like "hello world"
<clever> are you trying to compile something that uses simgrid?
<clever> but if you want to build something that uses simgrid headers, you must build that something inside a derivation, that has simgrid in its buildInputs
<clever> sophiag: that just means something you put into systemPackages failed, likely the simgrid2

2017-04-14

<sophiag> i'm also building something that *is* already in nix packages yet didn't seem to install most of what i need (and has no maintainer listed for me to ask). i'm wondering if perhaps it just didn't fully install since i didn't already have all the dependencies declared?
<clever> make a default.nix with something like this: with import <nixpkgs> {}; stdenv.mkDerivation { name="foo"; buildInputs = [ boost ]; src = ./.; }
<nalice> avn: what was that about copying kernels? i need to do something in addition to what nixos-rebuild provides in case i end up with a system that doesn't boot?
<timclassic> Is it something to do with fixed point?
<nalice> i think i read something about this from a ZFS developer, i'll see if i can find it
<nalice> finding if zfs is practical on a laptop. running something that tries to make sure your the same things you put in are the same that comes out, but isn't btrfs.
<gchristensen> codeape: does your shell.nix use ./. as its source or something?
<blorps> I really didn't intend to offend or quarrel with anyone, I just find I learn better when I get a sense of a program is meant to be invoked and run etc. Nixos configuration is super convenient but it's very high-level so it's harder to see how something works
<simpson> blorps: Your question is not simple. You're asking how to do something which is not supported directly, and we're all a little surprised and confused because the thing that *is* supported is pretty reasonable.
<blorps> also when I build and run pulseaudio myself, I know what I'm doing, but when I just copypaste something into my configuration.nix I don't really know what's happening
<avn> If I remember right -- FMOD is something closedsource, and idk what it use for sound
<avn> strace is your friend, but I think it looks like pulseaudio vs something conflict
<fresheyeball> so it must have been something else I did
<gchristensen> let's try something else. what are you trying to accomplish?
<__Sander__> you have situations in which for example a dependency's dependency resolves to something different depending on the context
<copumpkin> domenkozar: the idea is just that if you have something that produces the secret, you can have the secret. So the thing you'd have to ship is the secret itself, which means that nothing is gained
<copumpkin> domenkozar: I think in one of the various threads on private nix stores, but it's only sort of serious because I don't know how to implement it sensibly in current OSes :P the basic idea is that "you can have something from the store if you can provide an expression that evaluates to the same hash you're asking for" :)
<copumpkin> yeah, so if I need a random intermediate buildEnv for something, or a silly config file as a substituteAll
<symphorien> is there something I missed ?
<calvertvl> it's been working just fine since install back in December, unless I do something silly
<onethirtyfive> I do have the 'resume' option set in modprobe configuration to my swap partition. I'm thinking it might be some system service or something. Any ideas?
<Profpatsch> Something’s horribly broken with haskell executables.
<simpson> sophiag: NixOS doesn't do anything special with the header names. It's all straight from glibc, unless I missed something.

2017-04-13

<copumpkin> yup, was already doing something like that
<copumpkin> yeah, let me try something else
<Sonarpulse> like weird courier or something
<mojjo> and I'm not really building something in the sense of compiling, there will finally be just a script in the $out dir: bin/something-that-uses-naetcat.sh
<HappyEnte> mojjo: you could do something like this https://git.io/vSHIJ or just use https://nixos.org/wiki/Nix_Runtime_Environment_Wrapper
<gchristensen> garbas: I have something to put in this weekly, if you could please hold it for me :)
<Heffalump> I'm trying to use nixpkgs on WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux) and I've run into a 32-bit binary (busybox) while trying to build something else. 32-bit binaries aren't supported on WSL. Is it normal to have those in the nixpkgs stack?
<mekeor> (i thought maybe it's --set-flag but realized that's something different)
<copumpkin> although something we might want to do instead of aszlig_'s md5 collision :)
<MichaelRaskin> Well, FFI in Nix is something to use only when everything is bad
<MichaelRaskin> Fare: if you want to migrate something long-running, look for a minimal Lisp that has a web-server
<copumpkin> lib/attrsets.nix probably has something good
<pbogdan> LnL: do you mean I need to create ~/.nix-defexpr/nixpkgs symlink pointing to my fork? something like ~/.nix-defexpr/nixpkgs -> /home/pbogdan/nixpkgs/pkgs?
<nixy> Is it possible to use a git repo of nixpkgs like a channel, is this something that has been proposed before?
<MichaelRaskin> I would consider something lua-style-minimalistic, maybe even literally urn
<MichaelRaskin> Fare: are you comfortable just updating NixPkgs packages already? ping me when there is something to review (right now I am not doing much PR merging, but reviewing a few PRs is not hard, it's the firehose flow that gets people burnt out)
<MichaelRaskin> copumpkin: I cannot guarantee that this is positive support and not negative support because I have wrong enough reasons, but reusing two thirds of NixOS installer for something I can comfortably use would be nice.
<zraexy> Do propagated inputs propagate to the system environment if something that has them is in environment.systemPackages?
<ixxie> hmm nixos-rebuild yields some weird systemd error ("Failed to start Setup Virtual Console") - full error log here https://pastebin.com/yp4dQYnx - anybody seen something like this?
<mojjo> hi! I have the impression that, there's something broken with my busybox package. Many functions from that multi binary don't work anymore or output errors. here's a few: `man` does not show any manpage, `top` tells me about 'stackoverflow'...
<propumpkin> so something like `nix-store -q -R $(nix-instantiate ...)`
<copumpkin> niksnut: anyway, how's this for a way forward: 1) I try nixUnstable to get rid of fakechroot 2) I post to the mailing list asking for feedback and get more visibility on the PR, and then we see based on that if my needs are just niche (in which case I guess I'll maintain something separately) or a pain point for lots of people
<Mic92> For dockerTools I have an even more efficent idea of an rewrite. I did something similar for rkt in the past.
<copumpkin> I'm all ears. I considered adding more conditional behavior to nixos-install.sh rather than splitting into nixos-prepare-root, but the number of things that suddenly now need to be conditional started getting very ugly, so I moved to the current refactoring, which ended up feeling fairly elegant. I'm happy to try something else if it ends up being cleaner

2017-04-12

<ma9e> i was trying to debug something for airblader so i needed to build from next
<mekeor> is there something like an unfree nixos-installation image? i'd like to be able to `modprobe nvidia` instantly after booting the image (from usb-stick).
<noah-nix_> Havvy: maybe something's wrong with qt5..
<Havvy> Something about disabling some plasmoids I don't have.
<bennofs> schoppenhauer: while LD_LIBRARY_PATH does. or something like that
* dash grumbles something about how IBM figured all this out in the 70s
<simpson> nh2: I am guessing that something defined near the top of the nixos tree could be plugged in in order to get a boot-to-systemd, but I don't know exactly how to do it.
<goibhniu> Havvy: cool, there are various files e.g. ~/.config/ksmserverrc which could contain store paths ... I guess something like that is causing the problem
<Havvy> noah-nix: That says something about freetype, but I don't know if I'd be using the version they say isn't working or not.
<noah-nix> Oh, okay. I'm new to Linux, so I can't probably help. What happens when it crashes? An error message or something?
* bennofs1 just wants something to make stack work for intero on NixOS
<mrottenkolber> hmm so nixops failed with "unable to activate new config" but the reason is not immediately clear to me, maybe the warning have something to do with it? https://gist.github.com/eugeneia/5e7406a41a576ed72434a42430c3b489
<exarkun> yea I guess I'll change my build script to do something with stderr instead of passing it through
<domenkozar> NIX_* is something we patch for curl/etc
<copumpkin> Dezgeg: any idea what all the new failures in staging are? I took a random sampling and they seemed largely spurious hydra issues, but wasn't sure if there was something else about your commits
<LnL> I seem to remember seeing something about simplifying -p

2017-04-11

<jack[m]1> So, I would like to use fetchgit on a local repository path. Is there something better to use?
<iclanzan> davenull: Do you have something like this for your custom service `system.user.services."whatever" = {serviceConfig = {execStart = "${myNodePackages.pm2}/bin/pm2";};};`?
<joachifm> gchristensen: I see. well, the hacky way would be to make it create some persistent file and do unitConfig.ConditionPathExists or something, so that it'll run exactly once and then never again
<gchristensen> nixos people, I have very exciting news to share, but before I can, I need to solve a problem. I need to run something on the very next reboot, and never again afterward. any suggestions on how to implement this?
<davenull> srhb, Should I be passing something to the function we are calling?
<srhb> SovereignBleak: Probably need to symlink something into it
<srhb> SovereignBleak: Do you have the little hand when you over oer something clickable too?
<copumpkin> shlevy: this sounds very much like something I've wanted for a long time, but what I've wanted isn't quite idempotent...
<srhb> noah-nix_: I'd be surprised if it were something like that.
<srhb> Wait, is your system currently in /mnt or something?
<Unode> I'm guessing SSL proxy or something. Otherwise no clue. Usually the answer to that is no
<noah-nix> I saw a quick warning passing by, I didn't have enough time to read it, but it said "install-info, warning: no ..." or something like that.
<copumpkin> in "beta" or something
<Filystyn> guys i added all packages and got working except one %\usepackage[sfdefault]{AlegreyaSans} had to comment it out for now so how to make it work is this something i need to get just installing fonts?
<Dezgeg> does it do kexec or something?

2017-04-10

<disasm> bb_: yeah, I don't think there's an easy flag to switch. The url I linked above mentions adding something like that as a FIXME. You can always override the package though and use your custom package.
<fresheyeball> is there something special I need to do to use the locate command?
<dtzWill> not really our problem but just something that might ease the initial experience. Not sure if there's a sane way to do that without a huge amount of work (without being too fragile)
<dtzWill> i think some partitioning help would be great, had a friend who's not very systems-savvy give up installing NixOS trying to figure out partioning and making a boot partition for grub or something
<simpson> dgonyeo: Ew, is there an ebuild for $(emerge -av nix) or something? I would *not* trust that at all.
<dtzWill> copumpkin: what's the regression/problem? As someone using 1.12 on tarball channels lol is there something I should be looking out for?
<disasm> noah-nix: looking for something like boot.loader.
<avn> domenkozar: btw try ask dysnix/dysnomia author, he do something with IIS from it, so possible he can know some answers you need
<copumpkin> so you'd accept a PR adding that as a retry condition? I can throw one together quickly (and also changing the default retries to something >1, maybe 5?)
<niksnut> I assume it happens when curl writes something while the other side has closed the connection
<copumpkin> unless I'm missing something
<copumpkin> niksnut: oh, DownloadRequest defaults tries to 1, and I'm not sure nix-channel ever tries to change it to something else?
<srhb> I'm guessing nix-instantiate something
<domenkozar> copumpkin: could be something in release.nix then
<Dezgeg> or maybe something like \( -name '*.h' -o -name '*.lds' \) worked with find
<mounty> Is there any way to clear nix's caches? It seems to have mis-cached something with the consequence that I cannot now build a Haskell project via cabal2nix and nix-build.

2017-04-09

<Dezgeg> makeFlags = [ ... "bios" ] probably needs to be something else
<ktosiek> Guest55726: maybe something like this ↑?
<noah_nix> Just an off-topic question quickly: I have an HP EliteBook released 2011 or something, and it has Legacy BIOS. There is, however, an UEFI mode for the computer that I can enable from the BIOS setup screens. What is preferred by you people, UEFI or BIOS? Is there a risk that I will have an old version of UEFI if I enable it? There is a warning saying the UEFI mode for my PC is for development purposes only, and not supported by HP.
<noah_nix> I saw in the NixOS manual something about naming the partitions with a label? Why that?
<gchristensen> installs something new, it checks all its dependencies and as part of that will requires whitelist it
<gchristensen> you still need to add it ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix if you use nix-env to install something which depends on it
<pie_> i thought it had something to do with lisp lol
<srhb> I'm experiencing something odd where some of my steam games which are run with primusrun somehow kill primusrun prematurely (or something like that.) The end result is that the fan doesn't spin down at all afterwards, even though everything has cooled down. This is only some games. Any idea what might be going on?
<mounty> outputs something called haskellPackages.cabal2nix, is it possible to write a nix expression that runs the equivalent of: cabal2nix someDir >someDir.nix
<mojjo> we have `builtins.toFile "name" "somestring"`, which returns the path to the nix store where the file has been saved. Do we have something similar for directories? I'd need to put a string into a file inside a directory in the nix store...
<Zer000> normally if in a nix expression I do string substitution I can do something like this LIBCLANG_PATH = "${nixpkgs.clang}/lib" but openssl has two paths (looking at the output of "nix-env -qa --out-path openssl"), a bin and a dev. How can I specify the dev one?
<nh2> dhess: sounds like a good question to me, I would take it to the issue tracker. Even if you're doing something wrong, it would still be recorded for future users
<nh2> so something like `systemd.services.myservice.path = mypackage.buildInputs`

2017-04-08

<rui1> I'm doing something that occasionally makes X restart, so I'd rather do it in a second one
<jophish> Hmm, do I need to add dummy://test as a trusted remote or something?
<bennofs> looks like an error thrown by something like .emplace_back(args) where the constructor does not accept args?
<dtzWill> hmm, what's the versioning scheme used in nixUnstable? the suffix in particular, it's "pre${MONOTONICALLY_INCREASING_SOMETHING}_${GIT_SHORT_REV}" AFAICT but dunno what the first part corresponds to. Build somewhere? svn rev? lol
<Dezgeg> I'm guessing it could be something with shared library / global constructor ordering, but who knows really :P
<bennofs> jophish: perhaps that never happens and is a form of "crash if something is wrong"?
<bennofs> if nixpkgs eval takes so long that you have to split it across multiple machines, something should be changed
<bennofs> or something
<bennofs> shlevy: note that we currently do something like this for the "local" all-packages fixpoint i noted in my email
<shlevy> pierron: Would you object to something like this, assuming we figured out compatibility with existing usage? http://sprunge.us/HBdf
<shlevy> Hmm, is there any modification we could make to get something like http://sprunge.us/OXXH to evaluate to true? I don't think it's actually what we want with respect to overrides, but "super represents the whole set as if self had been fixed at that point" is not obviously wrong semantics either.
<bennofs> I think the ultimate test case should be something like this: https://gist.github.com/6c4b135c2856230305ceb94badbec179
<unlmtd[m]> override something in the kernel expression

2017-04-07

<tokudan> disasm, when you disconnected, did it say something about shared connection closed?
<aristid> weird, something in nixos forces my EDITOR to be nano
<nixy> That seems like something it should have, no?
<ToxicFrog> Bear in mind that if it's something you like that's proprietary, don't trust package search; look at the nixpkgs repo directly to see if it's already been packaged by someone.
<Filystyn> if there is something like this;-)
<gchristensen> Guest30071: usually when that happens something is muted I think
<matumental> is it possible to use packages from an overlay in systemPackages? am I missing something?
<copumpkin> niklob: I've definitely seen people mention changing it, but I think people are understandably cautious about replacing something so central
<SovereignBleak> I must be overlooking something obvious. Google is giving me nada.
<SovereignBleak> So I see a lot of users specifying .~/nix-profile/share{rest of path} to fix their GTK themes. I know this is a symlink but my system doesn't show this as a symlink. I have a manifest.nix that symlinks to a nix store. Am I not getting something?
<copumpkin> and it'd probably just do something sensible
<calvertvl> disasm: I know there are tools to rewrite those paths, but I haven't used 'em yet (the replacement path should be something like '$(iproute)/bin/ip' if I understand right)
<clever_> that says to run /bin/false any time something tries to load that module

2017-04-06

<radvendii> phpfpm: That's what I tried at first, and it complained about not being able to find motif. I checked other packages on nixpkgs that use motif, and one of them had something like "--with-motif" so I looked at how to do that for geomview
<clever_> Sergio965: you can also just call it something else, like foo.nix, and then run nix-(shell|build) foo.nix, and now you can put several in the same dir
<Sergio965> This means that I need to know which libraries something's going to use, spin up a nix-shell for that thing, and only then can I compile.
<alunduil> gchristensen, I was looking for something like that.
<phpfpm> but is more a rule by now, things will break sooner or later, almost always when you update something that is big enough, things break
<Heffalump> isn't that where you're supposed to store things you only want temporarily? In this case I'm running something that is tracking down a failure in a test suite
<Heffalump> feels like I'm missing something about what is intended
<benley> something like that - paths must get expanded (by copying them into the store) before the rest of evaluation happens
<bennofs> mojjo: builtins.toString ./fileName.json will return something like "/nix/store-..."
<arianvp2> we're probably doing something stupid
<arianvp2> there's probably something obvious that I am missing
<phpfpm> ma9e: You should yes, but know that I just learned from a friend of mine that he is running 17.03 with i3 without any issue, so it is likely something else, but still, it could be worth a try, maybe the thing causing the problem is not an issue in the previous version, dunno, it is all I can think of without more info
<ma9e> anyone know if there's a trick to getting i3 working? i get "could not create graphical context" and something about "no sockets passed"
<manveru> something along these lines
<phpfpm> manveru: It has to be something that is now different under 17.03 since the configuration works fine on 16.09
<copumpkin> niksnut: I think it's something to do with S3 host backends getting retired mid-stream. I've definitely gotten it dozens of times in the past few days after hammering it a fair amount
<copumpkin> so the 10k+ failures are something else
<bigvalen> Yay, I get to finally use docker for something
<drp> such a shame that they're so far away, thanks for the link, I will definitely consider them if I setup something international
<Unode> guillaum2, if a dependency gets pulled in and you don't want it, your only option is to create a derivation that excludes it though stuff might break if you do this. If you can afford the space, ignore it and just set your default browser to be something else.
<hodapp> and set up an OpenWrt router as a bridge or something
<radvendii> am i missing something?

2017-04-05

<ivan_> avn: yes, I can live with many options. Unfortunately the last installation of NixOS I did was not for me and not for a computer savvy user. And I wanted something that used default desktop metaphor and mostly worked. KDE4 worked reasonable well for this.
<avn> ivan_: you always can fall back to something simpler, like awesome, qtile or fvwm ;)
<LnL> yeah if that's the case I we might need to change something in the stdenv, not sure
<vcunat> ma9e: there's something in nixpkgs manual http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-using-stdenv
<vcunat> It might be there's something special needed for clang+gfortran support.
<DeaDSouL> vcunat: what if there is a patch, or security fix or something like that
<DeaDSouL> by different name or something
<DeaDSouL> benley: after editing configuration.nix... should i do anything? reloading it or something?
<SovereignBleak> On Arch we have pkgfile, among other tools, and pacman even suggests a package that owns the program you search for. Do we have something similar?
<DeaDSouL> benley: before installing nixos, i used nixos-generate-configuration or something like that, and it was on /mnt/etc/nix/configuration.nix ... but after the installation, i couldn't find /etc/nix/configuration.nix
<hyper_ch> vcunat: sorry, didn't see your rply..... current unstable... well, current like 2 weeks old or something since kdevelop stopped compiling
<grillon> benley: my problem is I install a python package that is not visible to ansible. does python package visible to other programs or do I have to do something?
<benley> tilpner: yes totally; instead of http://something just use /path/to/local/nixpkgs/checkout
<clever> nh2: so you cant giv it the types of something without also giving it the code, and now it has to rebuild even if the types arent changing
<gchristensen> something that runs a chef cookbook / puppet manifest / _whatever_ so we can point to it and say look, it works, this is how it works
<ffplay_i_want> vcunat: so at least it's not a easy beginners fault?! at least something ;-)
<mudri> Anyone using ibus-table-others that could test something for me quickly?
<dash> Isorkin: welp, that's something else then
<phreedom> aminechi1haoui: hard to tell why. I guess the api looked prettier. I wasn't the one who picked libcloud anyway. you could look into monkey-patching the connection classes. Usually something can be done about sucky libs
<copumpkin> but there was something about PV AMIs being broken as of 17.03
<Svarog_> I'm fairly new to NixOS - if I ran into something like that the first thing I'd do is try to create another user profile, install stack there and then do a diff between the two users
<dtzWill> boothead: well then it's not stack, it's something else. anything else in nix-env -q (That lists what's in your profile) that looks like what 'stack' installed as?
<dtzWill> either manually or maybe with --remove-all. If you mean nix-env -e isn't removing things that are listed in nix-env -q then that's a different issue, usually something about names vs attrs and whatnot
<boothead> that's odd, I thought there was a bit added to profile or something setting that up?
<Svarog_> boothead, could it be something in your user profile? .bashrc or something
<Svarog_> Seemed like something that should be internal and not something I should be using.
<exarkun> So I can point it somewhere else if that makes something easier or better.
<avn> exarkun: does your software capable to look to some env variable, like CA_CERTS, or something? (like git/curl/others does)?

2017-04-04

<wak-work> i'd rather use the power for something more efficient
<pxc> gchristensen: maybe I'm jumping the gun with the question. Do you think I should just go forward until I have something working and wait until code review to really ask it? lol
<pxc> gchristensen: the specific case I'm looking at is producing something like vim_configurable for the fish shell. I'm part way done already
<schoppenhauer> maybe technically, it would be nice to use or be compatible with something like environment-modules (as it has some common goals with nix-shells).
<schoppenhauer> yes. it would have to be something that is nixos-specific. and that wouldn't make it better.
<dash> clever: i was trying to set up nixos on an arm board (USB Armory) last year. something like not-os seems ideal because i really don't want to be running any config/build stuff on the board itself
<clever> pie_: id say not-os is more of an example right now, something you would want to fork and further customize, to suit your embeded programming needs
<gchristensen> I don't know about power profiles, but sounds like you want something Gnome or KDE would provide
<copumpkin> I feel like I must be missing something here: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1298
<pie_> how can i install something from a different repo in my configuration.nix?, can i specify what repos to use there as well, so i dont need to use nix-channel_
<manveru> i went back to i3lock, but sure would be nice to have something more automatic...
<CMCDragonkai> yes, that's what the issues mention, but then why isn't it working, is it relying on XMonad to write to utmp or sddm to write to utmp or something else?
<avn> Mic92: adding `ec2.hvm = true;` to config looks also fix it (Not checked yet, if it broke something or not)
<Filystyn> But maybe i missed something ;-)
<ben> (... yeah, toPath wouldn't have helped me to begin with, but at that point I was thinking I needed to do builtins.dirOf <nixos-config> or something, because I forgot ./. exists...)

2017-04-03

<copumpkin> normally I'd expect something like --
<ben> manveru: i think i get it in nixpkgs but it seems to be something different in nixos
<Mateon1> nh2: Sorry, I stepped away for a minute, but I mean the former, I want to package something myself, and don't want to bother uploading it anywhere
<eacameron> fpletz: Yah. services.nginx.package is set to something.
<eacameron> lush: If you want shell.nix I think you need --shell or something
<lush> hey. Haskell Fan here, may I ask something about cabal2nix? :-D
<eacameron> pxc: Ok thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. It may have been busy CPU or something.../shrug
<pxc> steveeJ: I'm thinking of doing something like that for fish but I'm not sure how useful or desired it would be, and right now I mostly just use NixOS anyway
<maurer> Updated /root/.nix-channels to say 17.03 where it says something else now
<pxc> steveeJ: when bash is enabled as a login shell on NixOS, it may also be specified that completions are enabled. This makes sure that bash-completions is installed and adds some shell code that eventually sources that file to the system bashrc (or profile or something, idr)
<rui2> I'm now trying to use it like a service, and something is running, but I'm a little lost
<eacameron> What determines if something gets into a stable channel or not? For example, now that 17.03 is out, will the recent fix to VS code get put in stable?
<KABA> I couldn't find it anywhere, and it is something that doesn't disappear after wiping out almost anything.
<nh2> is it a known problem that programs are slower in nix-build than in nix-shell? I seem to see something like ghc being 2x slower and chromedriver being 20x slower
<bennofs> Filystyn: i think its not about ports, but about something called reverse path test that somehow causes the routing of internet packets from your vm and back to fail
<Judson> Okay. The nixos-collect-garbage -delete-older-than thing made me worry that there was something special to do.
<Filystyn> at the moment i have debian not far from this window running in VM do i need to enable soemthign to make qemu conenct with internet i remember using it ages ago and i had connection maybe nix needs something in config file o.O
<Filystyn> ok do i need to enable something in configuartion.nix to use qemu ?
<dtzWill> (would running concurrent builds cause that? presumably not but not sure if 'self' is an evaluator instance or something else)
<nh2> what does it mean when I builtins.trace something and it shows as <CODE>?
<SovereignBleak> Oh I know I do. But something I’m doing is wrong.
<guillaum2> hi. Which solution do you recommand to "package" something which was build using nix and which should run on any other linux without installing nix ? I initially thought about building using static libraries, but they are not included in nix.
<puffnfresh> I think packaging IDEA Ultimate for OS X would look something like that
<shout-user> that -f flag turned up something it looks like
<shout-user> maybe I need to restart something?

2017-04-02

<lush> the error only occured after I started searching something in the web
<dupin> lush, if I try to use kdm I get error so that is why I think i have to change something
<bennofs> SovereignBleak: I thought about writing something to have emacs helm for window switching / app launching though
<Lisanna> Ah, I figured it might be something like that
<pbogdan> I think I'm missing something reading lightdm service module, if I understand correctly it resets config.services.xserver.display to null, defaults display to :0 but doesn't seem to have a way to actually change it to anything else
<Lisanna> users.<user>.password = "blah" or something like that
<ambro718> I'm trying to figure out why ntpd is broke and I see something very interesting, the process enters zombie state just after it does some capability stuff and calls getpid. Strace here: http://ideone.com/vXQIWa
<LnL> I think that's in pciutils or something
<LnL> crzyp3ck: if you are using vim_configurable something like this should work https://github.com/LnL7/dotfiles/blob/master/nixpkgs/config.nix#L49-L59
<simendsjo> NickHu: I encountered something like this on my boot partition. See if this helps: http://lists.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2016-September/021831.html. I actually had to manually delete something from /boot in order to get it to work :/
<Filystyn> do i need to enable something to run the tor browser. thsi is one of last things i need to make work somehiow ;-) ( one more is printer but did not even try yet )
<vcunat> Wiki has been lower quality in general and it's read-only for some time (and something like deprecated).
<obadz> yeah if you want to preserve something along the lines of what you currently have you probably do
<Filystyn> i guess need to change to 5 or something
<obadz> (gives you an idea of what it takes to package something that's well packaged…)
<vcunat> If it's something possible to be published, it would be best to include it in the "offical" nixpkgs tree, I think.
<vcunat> First, if you want just try something in short term, it's probably easiest to just fire nix-shell -p dep1 -p dep2 ... perhaps with also --pure flag and build the stuff in there.
<calvertvl> clever: I also tried getting fetchgitLocal to work, but it does something weird

2017-04-01

<Svarog> And those two lines have nothing to do with gnome3 either which is why I thought it must be something to do with collisions. But again.. cluthing at straws.. I have no idea what's going on.
<ndowens08> they are different commits, so something may have changed
<clever> Svarog: that will show the build log for foo, and if it was something like system-path, the collisions within
<bennofs> mojjo: check journalctl -b, perhaps it says something about your unit?
<joepie91> I personally don't really care about the reason somebody builds something, so long as it's built towards the right objectives
<praduca> changing it to 24, you get (255.0.0.0)... it's a bug or I need to do something else?
<praduca> Hi, someone can help me on ovswitch? I think i found a bug, or i'm doing something very wrong :)
<joepie91> unless I'm misunderstanding something about the usecase :)
<dtzWill> although now that you mention it, it does seem a bit odd there's not some XDG thing for that or something
<crzyp3ck> Is there to set a default application on Non DE (only WM) setups like blackbox for example? to set default terminal to something other than xterm?
<Filystyn> do i just add thsi lien or i need to give it = true or something ?
<Drakonis> i'm still trying to figure out why not get rid of systemd and go for something a little less

2017-03-31

<c74d> is this Bash or zsh (or something more exotic)?
<eacameron> tilpner: I'm sure there was more to it but that was the symptom. I wouldn't be surprised if one user was using a root install of vscode or something and the other user ran into the issue you just fixed when trying to install extensions.
<yumbox> would something like gobolinux provide the same features as nixos?
<tilpner> eacameron - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fix-debug-adapter-process-has-terminated-unexpectedly-dmitry-sotnikov suggests it might be missing something about openssl, but I don't know how to debug that
<ma9e> something else i need to do?
<SovereignBleak> gchristensen: Then something funky is going on because some bridged channels do show up and others do not.
<unlmtd[m]> 'availability heuristics' - using nixos is so cool that anyone using it would be biased to say something nice about every part of it
<mudri> Even changing the hash to something completely wrong doesn't work.
<mojjo> is it correct that nixops tends to be not the right thing when having a slow upstream internet connection and when dealing with 100mb builds..? Or am I missing something here? I'm having only one remote machine anyways. It looks to be better to just send a configuration.nix to the remote nix machine and let it buitld there...
<LnL> so something like this? environment.variables = mkIf config.xserver.displayManager.plasma5.enable { XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP = "kde"; };
<qknight> is there something like builtins.trace which prints the whole trace instead of showing me <CODE>?
<ikwildrpepper> copumpkin: wonder if something is up with cloudfront/s3
<Filystyn> actualy is there something like dpkg on nixie?
<gilligan_> but *something* else must be playing into this
<gilligan_> LnL, it has to be something about impurity/collision with system settings
<bkchr> makefu: thx! Can I use something like if something or somethingdifferent?
<pmahoney> something like: let listOfFiles = (builtins.attrNames ...); in assert (builtins.length listOfFiles) == 1; "...${builtins.elemAt listOfFiles 0}/loaders.cache"
<pmahoney> ashkitten: builtins.readDir? not exactly what you want, but could be used to build something http://nixos.org/nix/manual/
<ashkitten> How can I do something similar in Nix to this bash script: $(echo ${pkgs.librsvg.out}/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/*/loaders.cache) ?

2017-03-30

<MichaelRaskin> Themes are something you avoid
<MichaelRaskin> Well, you could be able to try to connect something with a Ethernet
<MichaelRaskin> ashkitten: re: openssh: did you check that the sshd process is running (ps -ef should help)? That it is listening something (ss -nlp | grep 22)?
<pmahoney> you're able to sign in with google? does my google email need to match something in maintainers.nix? (it does not)
<ashkitten> that's what i thought... something is unsetting your environment variable
<ashkitten> or by something else...
<kuznero> Should I just try to remove existing link, or something more fundamental is wrong here?
<Dezgeg> maybe tweaking the config.txt, in case something is wrong there
<globin> deepfire: I'm still going to continue until there is something which can replace it..
<__Sander__> I happen to work with people for whom switching to something else is a no-go
<vegai_> hyphon81: sounds like something that would be interesting at $work
<hyphon81> domenkozar: Sorry, I can't understand how does your program download OpenStack apps such as keystone, neutron... Do I misunderstand something?
<ashkitten> it doesn't seem to work for me but i'll try something else
<demax> can I do something to fix it without accesing UART tty?
<bennylb> Imperitively it would look something like this: stringvar = stringvar + "some other string"

2017-03-29

<ericnoan> i'm going to read it all, but let us say i want to install something that isn't packaged, is the correct way to create the package, or can i install it in a directory somewhere?
<ashkitten> ericnoan: if it doesn't, you can always try something else
<dtzWill> great. I mean it's physiaclly next to me so I can just powercycle it if I muck it up re:networking or something
<eacameron> ixxie: I've done something like that. The server ran a little web server that listened for bitbucket webhook events and then did git pull
<joepie91> it's the DNS where something's going wrong